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yuuuup! Brussels + 7 Drone + awesome

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Awesome is spot on.
Am I right to infer that, because Rick is still into the improv, the lack of improv in the UW main sets is Karl's preference? Just sayin. Probably more complex than that.

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It's probably way more complex.

Reasons I've heard/read:
If memory serves from 2010, it was the lighting guys who wanted to make the switch to a static setlist as it made it easier to give a contemporary live electronic music experience.

I recall Karl saying once, "We didn't have as many songs to make it through back then."

Reasons I've guessed at:
Improv will always have the risk of going poorly. 1998 glasto's NUXX has an aimless endbit for a handful of minutes, for example. Rick seems like a perfectionist to me and would rather not risk providing a less than perfect show to fans.

I also bet that making the jump from regular sub-headliner of the 90s to legacy headliner act comes with an expectation of polish on stage.

All these reasons *feel* accurate to me, but then there's one show that throws it all for a loop... Amsterdam Dance Event 2017. It was fully a pre-2010 style Underworld set, and it was EXCELLENT. Karl fully behind the desk with Rick, reworkings of old material, and even some brand new material that we still don't have even after Drift.

Anyhow, this is a rambling post with little concrete evidence behind it, take it with a few grains of salt. Maybe drift 2 will be a live project where they ceremonially burn a setlist before the first show of the tour and start every show with short versions of NUXX and TMO. :D

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Personally, I prefer the chaos and improv. That's a live show. Forget some elaborate bpm synced light show. I want a balls to the wall Underworld gig with them just going for it. Giving me pointless jam sections. I miss the spontaneity. But a lot of the legendary electronic acts have gone this way with preset sets. I miss the jams. I think they should stick with preset sets for festivals and jam sets for solo gigs.

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what's this?

Re: RicksDubbedOutDriftExperience and DRIFT Series 1 Complete
 

but that still doesn't explain why you'd lug a HUGE screen around just to show the name of the song and the same pattern of dots (with different colors) for an entire 2+ hour show

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I think past a certain point, when you've performed these songs for 15-25 years, there's only so many ways you can arrange a song, only so much enjoyment and surprise you can get out of improvising. Once you've found a fantastic arrangement for a live song, there's not as much satisfaction in performing an "inferior" take for the hell of it, when you can execute a great version that gives you a rush to pull off exactly right and makes audiences go nuts.



I definitely still love the sense of surprise and interaction, over hearing a take executed exactly like the album or Everything, Everything. But even the most die hard fans have maybe heard only 30-40% of all the shows they've ever done and that's exhausting. Imagine hearing all of them, playing all of them, and the one thing you haven't done is put together the "perfect performance" and tour it consistently.



Besides, the entire ethos of spontaneity and improvisation found a new home in Drift and I'm pretty happy to hear it. And live, it makes sense that Rick gets back into being improv heavy when it comes to new material like this and the Carnival sets from 2017 - the element of surprise is back, he hasn't performed those songs a hundred times yet.



I get how the lightshow could have led to more controlled setlists - the lightshows from 2010-2014 were a lot more elaborate. Following that was Dubno's tour which introduced performing studio-exact renditions of songs paired with minimal visuals which made sense, and likely felt comfortable and new for them, so it was an easy decision to carry that on to Barbara Barbara's tours. Then the band has some fun again in 2017-2018 - Amsterdam, Rick's opener sets, surprise additions like And I Will Kiss - while also getting to continue presenting studio-exact performances. Immediately after that? Summer 2018 is the start of Drift recording, and no spare time to re-imagine things.


It's definitely weird to have a giant high res screen just to show off some typography, but IDK, it's not my money. If we keep getting great studio tunes I'm pretty happy, and it's not worth seeing a band live if they're not enjoying what they're doing, and you're only going to get good improv if they're into it.

Re: RicksDubbedOutDriftExperience and DRIFT Series 1 Complete
 

I have a few answers on some questions:

1. The Drift Series 1 Complete box set will not contain a download code for the Additional Releases.

2. The Drift Series 1 Complete box set will also be available through normal retail channels (i.e. it's not an Underworldlive exclusive)

3. Normal retail channels (both physical and digital) are through Universal/Caroline, and UW have much less control over that. Going forward, everything will also be posted in 24-48 quality on Bandcamp and Underworldlive.com (Shopify) which are channels that they have full control over.

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One more thing, the correct name of the track is "Seven Music Drone" not "Seven Drone Music". It's been corrected on "Drift Series 1 Complete" on Bandcamp already. Not sure if the correction will make it to the other digital platforms or not.

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"Additional Releases." what additional releases? are there more coming?

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I think by additional releases its the zip of all the archive materials that were shared as part of the Drift cycle but were not part of Drift, if that makes sense

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The additional material was all the stuff they released in between Drift episodes. Usually there was like 3 weeks in between episodes. So each Thursday during the break, they would drop something from their archives. Sometimes it was a studio jam or unreleased track or a rehearsal or live excerpt or DJ mix. They included it all in 24 bit WAV. I'm guessing they'll do the same when Drift 2 happens.

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@potatobroth: https://soundcloud.com/angrish/live-...ds-20-oct-2017
Higher quality and video are on the tracker too. A truly excellent set. It really feels like a 2002-2009 era set with 2017's back catalog.

The screen was doing much more in 2010 when they first got it. They were basically doing all the music videos on it for 2010-2012.

Adding to live surprises, they unveiled a new track and fully released it all in sync with a live stream and broadcast with TeatimeDub. You can't do something like that if everything is off the cuff. The last few years they've done a pretty good job of rotating out some archive gems, too. I never imagined they'd dust something like Why, Why, Why off for the stage again, and we got a new Dirty rework some 15 years on.

I really think WhiteNoise nailed it. I can see how getting that mix just how you want it and touring it for everyone to see could seem attractive to the band. It's also worth noting that the one really special leftfield set (ADE) in recent memory was live streamed for everyone to see, and the other one (Rick's prejam) was just released for us. Unique concerts are really cool, and when everything goes great it's hard to beat, but I can imagine it being equally frustrating when the mixes just don't come together. The catch to all that is that youtube clips become show spoilers, and for many here that was the only way to keep up with what they were doing for a long time.

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oh oh. didnt realize this was the museum gig.

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really glad to see this show up here- not sure how i missed this gig but this is MASSIVE.

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on the mention of correcting track metadata, there are still some errors on the Bandcamp and primary streaming services.
for 'Drift Series 1 - Complete', 'Brilliant Yes That Would Be' is credited to the artist 'Underworld - Brilliant Yes That Would Be' :confused:
and 'Border Country' is titled as 'Border County'

additionally, for 'Drift Series 1' on other streaming platforms, the tracks 'Appleshine', 'Toluca Stars' and 'Tree And Two Chairs' still contain 'Film Edit' in the title. plus the Spotify canvas art for 'Give Me The Room' does not show up on mobile, but for every other album track, their respective canvases appear.

also on song titles, is it 'Appleshine (All of the Lights) or 'Appleshine (All the Lights)'? the box set and Bandcamp lyrics seem to suggest it's the latter, but its title on streaming services includes the 'of' which isn't in the lyrics...

those are just a few things i've noticed whilst listening digitally.

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Anyone here ever had issues with redeeming codes at Sound of Vinyl? I seem to have nothing but trouble with them all the time

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Yup! For whatever reason - my UW and Bryan Ferry downloads have worked fine... but then, on the other hand I was never able to redeem my downloads for the Chemical Brothers or Brian Eno

...which... just seems... odd.

Re: RicksDubbedOutDriftExperience and DRIFT Series 1 Complete
 

For me, it's always had issue recognizing my hotmail account, no matter the browser, and customer support doesn't quite seem to understand that either.

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Mine works but it’s only the extras and the new addition. Not the whole
Drift album

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Apologies if this is inappropriate- please delete if so... but seeing as some have said in here they have been getting extra bandcamp codes sent to them when buying the new set.
I had the original set- and wanted to get the high res audio which the set on bandcamp would offer- I had some issues with the download for the new Depeche Mode Violator 12" singles set (which have been sorted) and have been sent an extra download code (Not Bandcamp- but you do get the 16 bit WAV's)... just wondering if anyone has an unused bandcamp code for the set they would be up for a trade for my spare unused Mode code??

Drop me a PM if anyone is interested.
Cheers, Mark.

Re: RicksDubbedOutDriftExperience and DRIFT Series 1 Complete
 

Thank you for posting this!

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For anyone not aware, Bandcamp has one of the best (or maybe the best) payouts for artists, of any of the current music outlets. So it's an excellent choice if you want as much as possible of the money you spend to actually end up in the artist's pocket.

(I've switched my music shopping to Bandcamp almost exclusively.)

Re: RicksDubbedOutDriftExperience and DRIFT Series 1 Complete
 

yeah - it's rare to hear of a music business that's actually ethical and treats the artists well but Bandcamp is definitely one of them. maybe the only one. I've been saying for years that UW should be putting stuff on there.

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Here's an excellent article that compares the goals for Bandcamp and Spotify: https://www.npr.org/2020/08/19/90354...de-open-future

Re: RicksDubbedOutDriftExperience and DRIFT Series 1 Complete
 

Interesting indeed.

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Can anyone confirm that the Drift 1 - 6 downloads from BC are 48/24 (like the Sampler and Extras downloads)? Many thanks!

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Yes, everything on Bandcamp is 24-48. Keep in mind that the Episodes on Bandcamp are derived directly from the box set. So if you’re going to buy all of them, it might be cheaper to buy the Complete bundle instead.

Also keep in mind that there were differences between the Episodes as they were originally released and how they appeared on the box set/Bandcamp. If you want the original Episodes, you’ll have to buy them from other retailers (like Qobuz, 7Digital, ProStudioMasters, HDtracks, etc, if you want 24-bit).

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Thanks for the confirmation. :)

I bought the original boxset, which had the 48/24 downloads for the Sampler and Extras only but would really like Drift 1 to 6 at the same quality.

Is there a lot of difference between the original releases and the BC/Box set versions? [ BC seems more reasonably priced ]

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So if you just need Series 1 without the Sampler and Rick's set, then yes, Bandcamp is probably the cheapest. Actually, about $1 cheaper (or more depending on your credit card exchange rate and foreign currency fees) would be to buy it at Acoustic Sounds, along with the the 10% off coupon code seen in the upper-left of that page.

For the changes between the original Episode releases and the Series 1 release, you can read my posts about all the changes starting here. Some of them are minor, but some of them are not insignificant. It's up to you how much of a completist you are. If you want to buy the original Episodes in 24-48 quality, it looks like Qobuz has the best pricing on all the episodes. Note that Episode 2 is only available in 24-48 through Japanese e-tailers.

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I got a Japan store I shop with using VPN that has Ep. 2 in 24 bit, but it's frigging expensive and has kept me picking it up. One day when I have extra cash to splurge away. Unless some folks want to go in with me and I'll the provide 24 bit WAVs to those that donated.

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I don't know how it's taken me so long but, I've put the short phone video clips I took of each track from Rick's pre-show mix at the Manchester Warehouse Project on my Google drive if anyone wants to have a look: https://drive.google.com/folderview?...l95VFbR8wV3Cy7
The only track I didn't get on video was Doris which he started with.
There are definitely a couple of tracks that I don't think we've heard yet so I wonder if they'll be part of Drift series 2 or just tracks that didn't make the cut for series 1?
Anyway enjoy!

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Actually, you did mention it in the WHP thread when you uploaded them, thanks. I used them last week to work up the setlist:

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/rick-...-1b85a9cc.html

Turns out, there was only one track that I wasn't able to identify. Based on your video timestamps, it looks like this set was slightly shorter than the Amsterdam set.

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Ha ha, I can't believe I forgot that I already uploaded the videos! D'oh! 🤣🤣
That's great that you worked out the setlist- I knew I recognised most of the tracks but I'd have struggled to name them all!

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... Many thanks for the detailed reply.

Will probably go with the BC downloads.

I used to be a lot more of a completist but these days I've calmed down a bit. ;)

Happy to go with the versions the band consider 'final'. I didn't listen to a lot of the original Drifts as they came out, decided to wait on the Box Set.

Have a good one and thanks again!

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The Drift Series 1 Complete box set has gone up for purchase on a number of retailers. Here are a few links:

Amazon (US): https://amzn.to/3lvcXAR
Amazon (UK): https://amzn.to/3hIen91

ImportCDs (plus shipping): $32.99
Bull Moose (free shipping): $36.97


Japan Release Date: September 14, 2020
UK Release Date: September 18, 2020
EU Release Date: September 25, 2020
US Release Date: October 2, 2020

Re: RicksDubbedOutDriftExperience and DRIFT Series 1 Complete
 

I kinda wish UW would reissue the super deluxe editions of Dubnobasswithmyheadman, Second Toughest In The Infants, and Beaucoup Fish in this smaller, cheaper form factor. Perhaps add something extra for each set.

Re: RicksDubbedOutDriftExperience and DRIFT Series 1 Complete
 

just got my shipping email:

The following item(s) have been successfully shipped

Order Number: 1810272
Date of Order: 12/06/2020

Product : UNDW01
Brand : Underworld
Item : DRIFT Series 1 - CD/BluRay Boxset (2019) - *PRE-OR
Size/Qty : ONESIZE x 1
Dispatch Date : 16 Sep 2020

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Dispatched for me yesterday, too!

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FYI, I confirmed that "Appleshine (All the Lights)" is the correct title. I haven't seen the correction pushed out to digital platforms yet though.