Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

allflac.com is not legit. Currently located in Latvia, but also in the Ukraine in the past.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

damn. I almost purchased from them, just to finally get 'Twenty Three Blue'

...anyone know where else I can get it (and not pay over like... $30)?

I see that Amazon lists the Japanese import of 'Barbara Barbara...' but it doesn't give a tracklisting (and I've been burned by that in the past)

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

Amazon should be fine if you buy this one:

http://amzn.to/2fzYm9M

The product page says BRC500, which is the Japan one with the bonus track. If you don't receive that exact CD, then you can just file a claim with Amazon under their A to Z Guarantee to get all of your money back.

Here are some other options for buying:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272793651887
https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/8260890
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/BRC-500

And you can get a small iTunes Japan gift card, create a new Apple ID account (using a new e-mail address) just for Japan, add the gift card balance, and buy just twenty-three blue from the iTunes Japan store.

https://www.seagm.com/itunes-gift-card-japan
https://www.apartment507.com/collect...s-card-500-yen

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

For folks looking for the bonus track Twenty Three Blue, check out the Japanese digital music site Ototoy...

We Face A Shining Future (Japan Edition) 24 bit:
http://ototoy.jp/_/default/p/60988

Shining Future Remixes 24 bit:
http://ototoy.jp/_/default/p/62602

P.S. They also have standard 16 bit, you just have to search and they come up separately from the 24 bit.

BUT...

In order to purchase from them, you will need a VPN. It's actually pretty simple. I found a VPN called Tunnel Bear that gives you an account with 500mbs per month for FREE. It reloads each month. Simply download the Tunnel Bear app and change the country to Japan and you're off.

Yeah, 500mbs doesn't sound like a lot, BUT here's how you work around that...

You only need to use the VPN to view the site's prices and make the purchase. But once you make a purchase, turn off your VPN and await for the download e-mail to arrive. It usually only takes a minute for the e-mail with the link to show up in your folder. Make sure the VPN is off and simply download straight from the link in the e-mail and you won't need to waste your 500mbs on the actual download. You only need to use the VPN to sign up and be able to view prices and make purchases. I just use my Paypal to buy music off their site without issue. Just make sure to turn the VPN off once you're done with your purchase and you can 500mbs can go a long way.

Hope this helps!

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

Ramajama and the KOS remix aren't available to listen to in the uk? Spotify and Soundcloud won't let me play them.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

The super deluxe remaster is now available to pre-order on iTunes UK and the 3 tracks are all downloadable now if you pre-order the whole super deluxe version.
Or... you could copy the soundcloud link to a web based mp3 converter based outside the UK that will rip it for you but obviously I wouldn't condone that! ;)

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

Obviously! 🤣🤣🤣

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

That second half of Ramajama is definitely a lost classic. I covet those bootlegs where they played it. Always thought it was an original version of King of Snake, but it seems to have been its own thing. There's a show where they play a version of Ramajam with Moaner lyrics and it's one of the coolest performances of their whole careers.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

say what? which show?



(I've heard them sing Moaner lyrics over Rowla, and over Rez live.)

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

It was the Temptation 2 gig at Alexandra Palace NYE 1999. It's on the tracker (it was when I last looked). I would've preferred that be the extra live disc on the BF remaster than Blue Mountain gig as I think it's one of their best live shows of that era and it has Ramajama with Moaner lyrics followed by possibly the best ever live version of Dark Train and Rez (great bleepy Rez start).

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

huh, i have that one. havent listened to it in 15 years tho. time to give it a go!

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

To be honest I mostly listen to the good quality live bootlegs and OWB tour and rarely listen to the studio albums these days. For me their raw live sound is better than the perfectly produced studio recordings and some of the bits they only play in the live versions are my favourite (ie the siren in nuxx, the other bit of Push and the slowed down Rez intro) and I wish they had included studio quality versions of these on the Remastered albums but unfortunately not!

Definitely dig out the Ally Pally gig, I've had it on today and from Ramajama on is just awesome and is UW at their best, it's my favourite Underworld gig/music ever (alongside Glasgow 1994, where it all started for me! ). :)

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

Same. But i have so many boots that some get lost in the mix. Ale Palace never made it into my new iTunes and thus was just forgotten about.

i love that snake-charmer sounds mixed in with Ramajama. Its one of my favorite all-time live moments: KOS intro from I Love Techno.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

The Ally Pally sounds like a truly amazing gig, all this talk really got me excited for it. Hadn't been on the tracker since this time last year, so I jumped on over to it and...

Nothing. Not seeing it anywhere (am grabbing the Mayan gig though, which I can't believe I've missed all these years as well). :)


Does anyone have it readily available for there or know if it's labeled unusually? I'm guessing many others will also be interested with all the Ramajama hype going on, so any help would definitely be appreciated.

Thanks for being an amazing community - I forget to check in on the happenings until things get stirred up around releases. :(

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

It appears that a default setting changed. In the middle of the page above the list of torrents you need to change Show all of: "Active" to "include dead" torrents. The number of torrents listed went from 54 to 226 when I did that. Our community is small and many of the torrents may be unseeded at any given time. I intend to get my seedbox up and running again soon, but we'll see how life goes. link to torrent: https://tracker.rtsr.org/torrents-details.php?id=40

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

Awesome. That makes more sense - knew I was missing something, didn't know about that detail.

Request for re-seed has been sent. Hoping it will get some attention, probably others looking for it now as well.

Thanks for getting me on the rails, and to everyone who called attention to that gig. Can't wait to hear it!


Back to the original topic, though - really can't wait to hear the rest of the Beaucoup Fish outtakes beyond Ramajama. :)

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

I did not wake up today expecting to hear Ramajama,
I remember chasing down every obscure version of king of snake hoping it was this.

aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

Listening again to Ramajama and the live versions of it at the time, I'm guessing that the familiar section did indeed begin life as a version of King of Snake and was later integrated into what became Ramajama. When you listen to the demo, they're very much two different things stuck together, which we know is something Rick tries from time to time. When you listen to other versions (like the Moaner track mentioned above, Blue Mountain, the Mayan show in LA in 1998, Rick's King of Snake remix, etc) it shares many more elements with KOS than anything else.

So I was jumping the gun calling Ramajama the lost classic, it's more like a lost curiosity.I think the Blue Mountain recording of this is the closest we're going to get to a studio version of what we think of as the original KOS, a truly banging piece of music.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

yeah i was there too, that GIG was off the chart, that was my fav live version of any UW track...

also New ORDER! with Bez

Sasha

it was a nice way to see in NYE

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

I'm very jealous although I was at the Temptation 1 gig in Manchester a couple of nights before the Ali Pali gig and that was pretty awesome too! I remember New Order messing up their opening track a couple of times! :) I wish there was an as good quality recording of the Manchester night as the Ali Pali one!

One thing I can't work out though is that both these gigs were before any of the Beaucoup Fish releases but I seem to remember having already heard King Of Snake and I think Push Upstairs and Bruce Lee somehow (I remember being disappointed as I didn't like BL). I think they might have played previews on the evening session on Radio 1 in late 1998, can anyone else remember this? or am I making it up? Maybe I just thought I'd not heard those ones before so they must be new?

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

They played those tracks throughout 1998 and 1999 live shows before the release of the album.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

Underworld released Kittens pre-album as an MP3 if I remember correctly.

I remember hearing Jumbo live in NYC before BF was released. I called my friend and said "I don't know what its called, but 'sugar water' was on the big screens a lot."

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

Ramajama is now on Spotify. Like this track! Part of the instrumentals have been heard live many times, but the song is new?

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

found some BF related pics of items i once owned from my archive of pics...

just for the history of it all...

this was just a sample of what they churned out :)


loads of UW pics in my flickr album

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

you think those gummy fish are still any good? ;)

i have a ton of posters and swag from the BF era in a trunk somewhere.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

speaking of promo stuff from the BF era...

I remember having an mp3 from a 'promo cassette version' of Beaucoup Fish, where the sample at the end of KOS* was actually over the intro of "Winjer"

Is that how the track is on every version of the BF cassette - or was it unique to a specific promo?


*"roll up news paper, set it on fire" (etc etc)

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

It's from this promo cassette '7 Tracks out of 10' ... King of Snake / Winter :p

http://www.markcod.dk/IMAGE0001.JPG

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

:D I have those gummy fish / dolphins somewhere - or rather, they turned into black pulp years ago. Should have kept them in the freezer, I guess ... :p

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

What's S.M.F.U.?

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

S.M.F.U. = Stack My Fridge Up, working title for Kittens and cheeky pun on the Prodigy's Smack my bitch up.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

did kos/winjer ever get released in any other form? could recreate it myself if i knew how much of the outro goes into winjer.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

I remember the 1998 Mayan show being promoted as a promo tour for the album upcoming, and that Jed The Fish (KROQ LA DJ) played a promo version of either Jumbo or KoS (can't remember which one it was, as that was almost 20 years ago now). I happened to be listening to the radio at the time, riding my bike for work on the 405, heard the song and that they were playing the Mayan either that evening or the next and quickly made tracks to the nearest Ticketmaster to get tickets. It was an amazing show.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

Here's a snippet

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

I think i prefer this version. It's more STITI like. This is the first version i heard from the Tape that was sent out as a promo to the newspaper i worked at at the time.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

thanks for the snippet mark.

anyone know if the album downloads on uw's shop will be available at midnight in the uk? or when they're likely to be on spotify? hoping it's not going to be waiting for uw to manually make them available tomorrow morning.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

PS. Ramajamma is on the Blue Mountain set. Track 6 to be exact.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

thanks for that! I might just try and re-create that transition...

Also - Glad to know it's exclusive to that specific promo (which saved me a lot of time)

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

So "King Of Snake" (Claudio Coccoluto Remix) has been mastered from vinyl?

Unless vinyl surface noise is intentionally part of the track . . .

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

uw shop downloads are available now.

Re: Beaucoup Fish - 4 CD Remastered Deluxe Box Set (8/25/2017)
 

So no Five points then, absolutely gutted!