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ThingInABook 12-04-2011 12:08 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deckard236 (Post 152240)
At 5:16 there is a word missing, it sounds like a bad edit. I downloaded mine from the US iTunes.

that's the issue i was talking about. mp3 hiccup? or bad edit? now i'm worried about the CD version...

negative1 12-04-2011 12:52 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
spotify US has some issues also..
----------------------------------------------------
all the tracks on CD3 of the anthology
are not available... however it does include
the longer version of 'the big meat show'..

the version of 'jumbo' is still the shorter one
though at 6:58 ... so maybe they aren't including
the longer one?

later
-1

m.g. 12-04-2011 04:17 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThingInABook (Post 152243)
that's the issue i was talking about. mp3 hiccup? or bad edit? now i'm worried about the CD version...

Finally I have to agree... between 5:16 to 5:17 a bit of the 1st word missing... :mad:

TheBang 12-04-2011 04:32 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
I added Born Dirty ordering links to the first post (and repeated below). If you use these links to make your purchase, BD will get a small referral commission which helps pay for the site hosting costs. Thanks!

Anthology 1992-2012 (Digital):
Amazon US - $13.99
iTunes US - $15.99

Amazon UK - £11.98
iTunes UK - £11.99

Anthology 1992-2012 Disc 3 only (Digital):
Amazon US - $5.99
iTunes US - $7.99

Amazon UK - £5.99
iTunes UK - £5.99

Anthology 1992-2012 (3xCD):
Amazon US - $13.75
Amazon UK - £8.99


A Collection (Digital):
Amazon US - $5.99
iTunes US - $7.99

Amazon UK - £3.99
iTunes UK - £5.99

A Collection (CD):
Amazon US - $11.45
Amazon UK - £7.99

TheBang 12-04-2011 10:08 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
FYI, Amazon currently has the 7 minute Jumbo version, whereas iTunes has the 9 minute version. Amazon also has the shorter version of Moaner, whereas iTunes has the full version. Also, Amazon appears to have a defective Bigmouth. It cuts off unexpectedly at 4:10.

Other items of note:
Legit longer version of Minniapolis. Extensions in the middle and end breakdowns, and a proper ending, rather than a fade-out.
Parc is an edit of The Bells The Bells. It has 45 seconds chopped out after the end of the first verse.

potatobroth 12-05-2011 09:05 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Parc is an edit of an edit?

darktrain 12-05-2011 02:14 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
US iTunes selling "Collection" for $9.99 and "A Collection" for $7.99 :rolleyes:

TheBang 12-05-2011 04:44 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darktrain (Post 152259)
US iTunes selling "Collection" for $9.99 and "A Collection" for $7.99 :rolleyes:

There are 2 (identical) versions of A Collection on all services for some reason. Based on what little information is visible, it seems that one was submitted by Cooking Vinyl, and one by Smith Hyde Productions. Smith Hyde is the cheaper one.

Yannick 12-06-2011 07:11 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
about Meat Beat Show...

Word back from Steve Hall...

The track is little more than a demo, and is what it is. You can even hear Karl talking over the track in parts....

it was played live loads of times during the early years but the recording was never finished as it wasn't gonna make the album. the vocal is probably part live take and part recorded vox manually dropped into the track.

- s

joethelion 12-06-2011 07:30 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Ha!

I was just about to write my "guess" about the track and the bit of the vocal missing...

Essentially - I was going to say the exact same thing, which makes sense... especially as the music isn't effected, just that one bit of the vocal - and you can hear karl making little "vocal notes" (like, talking over the track... not "notes" as in musical notes)

and how even the "trancing trancing" bit sounds different than the other vocals...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannick (Post 152264)
about Meat Beat Show...

Word back from Steve Hall...

The track is little more than a demo, and is what it is. You can even hear Karl talking over the track in parts....

it was played live loads of times during the early years but the recording was never finished as it wasn't gonna make the album. the vocal is probably part live take and part recorded vox manually dropped into the track.

- s


ThingInABook 12-06-2011 08:35 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
thanks for posting Steve's thoughts on big meat show. it's kind of odd to know that the track used on anthology is a demo. and what about DubnobassDAT? big meat show from the DAT recording has complete lyrics. it's shorter and it lacks karl's speech, but at least all the verses are complete.

i don't know, i really enjoy listening BMS in all its hi-fi glory, but when it comes to that part... it sounds like something is totally out place.

anyone up for adding/fixing the missing bit? :(

BrotherLovesDub 12-06-2011 08:58 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
would be better as an instrumental, imo.

testudo 12-06-2011 09:32 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThingInABook (Post 152267)
anyone up for adding/fixing the missing bit? :(

I'd love a copy of this too, but it seems tough since the mastering is different!

joethelion 12-06-2011 04:40 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 152268)
would be better as an instrumental, imo.

yea - got to say... some of those lyrics are definitely cringe-worthy

...and I just now realized - as far as the 3rd disc... it's certainly really heavy on the dubno-era tracks

like - out of the nine tracks, only three aren't from 92-94

no STITI outtakes / recordings, no BF, AHDO, OWB...

...yes - I realize that "Oich Oich" was released as a b-side to "Pearls Girl" but it was at least two years old by the time that it came out ... I mean - the video for it came out in... what '93? (I don't have my copy of "Footwear Repairs" handy to check)

TheBang 12-06-2011 07:21 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
maybe there aren't that many rarities and outtakes from the other time periods.

Troy McClure 12-07-2011 08:20 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
I bought the Anthology bundle from the site this morning. Excited to own the hard to find songs by legitimate means. Never had heard the 9:12 version of Jumbo....love it.

Was wondering why I got multiple links in my confirmation email to download the music? Did anyone have trouble editing the tag info?

thanks for the help, Jason

saintrik 12-07-2011 11:01 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Regarding that 9:12 version of Jumbo... Has there been any confirmation that that is indeed the version on the CDs?

Given that several of the digital services have different versions, I'd love to know which version is indeed on the CD pressing.

Gotta say I'm a bit bummed about the audio glitch in Big Meat Show... That's going to bug me now every time I play it...

TheBang 12-08-2011 06:15 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintrik (Post 152311)
Regarding that 9:12 version of Jumbo... Has there been any confirmation that that is indeed the version on the CDs?

Nope. It's listed as such on the Amazon CD listings though. Also, the downloads from Underworldlive.com are the 9 minute version. So I'd say it's likely on the CD.

froopy seal 12-08-2011 07:45 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 152277)
maybe there aren't that many rarities and outtakes from the other time periods.

This is highly likely, taking into account what we know of Rick's straight-forward way of knocking up one of those album things.

negative1 12-08-2011 10:28 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThingInABook (Post 152267)
thanks for posting Steve's thoughts on big meat show. it's kind of odd to know that the track used on anthology is a demo. and what about DubnobassDAT? big meat show from the DAT recording has complete lyrics. it's shorter and it lacks karl's speech, but at least all the verses are complete.

i don't know, i really enjoy listening BMS in all its hi-fi glory, but when it comes to that part... it sounds like something is totally out place.

anyone up for adding/fixing the missing bit? :(

i don't mind it that much.

however, yeah you could edit out the speech,
and clean up skip..
later
-1

pandamagic 12-08-2011 03:16 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m.g. (Post 152247)
Finally I have to agree... between 5:16 to 5:17 a bit of the 1st word missing... :mad:

the fade-out is also quite sloppy and abrupt, something that could have been fixed with even the most rudimentary software. it's an odd choice for the anthology for sure. why not include something like "jamscraper" instead? or "burts?" or the long version of "rowla?" it's not like there's any shortage of underworld rarities - there's no need to resort to unfinished demos with questionable lyrics to fill out a compilation.

ultradave 12-08-2011 03:33 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 152314)
Nope. It's listed as such on the Amazon CD listings though.

It's interesting - Amazon (US) has the mp3 download at the 6:57 album version. There are no time listings for the CD, however, Amazon (UK) and Amazon (JP) have the tracklisting for the CD with Jumbo 9:14.

iTunes also has Jumbo 9:12 listed for download.

Right now I'm streaming the Anthology from Rdio and they have the 6:57 version of Jumbo. They have the 2 disc available to stream. I just checked Spotify (US) and they only have the 1 disc available for stream of the Anthology - they also are streaming the 6:57 version of Jumbo. They have the Collection available to stream, whereas Rdio does not.

It's pretty safe to say the 9:12 version will be featured on the physical release. I've pre-ordered mine from Amazon - couldn't beat the deal - both 3 disc Anthology and Collection CD for under $25 US Shipped. Noice! :D

potatobroth 12-09-2011 06:58 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
I bought the 3-disc set thru Amazon and got a 6:58 version of Jumbo.

/facepalm

I'm so sick of this "buy it from here for this" bullshit with music. Its beyond ridiculous that I now have to go to iTunes and buy this as a single track after just having purchased the album.

While I'm at it, not liking the odd spoken-demo track of Big Meat Show. How does that version make it onto the compilation? Who wants to hear "I'm not tracking this" in the middle of a song? I'm sticking with the demo from the Dubno rip we all have.

Underwhelming release.

negative1 12-09-2011 12:49 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by potatobroth (Post 152341)
I bought the 3-disc set thru Amazon and got a 6:58 version of Jumbo.

/facepalm

I'm so sick of this "buy it from here for this" bullsh*t with music. Its beyond ridiculous that I now have to go to iTunes and buy this as a single track after just having purchased the album.

dude,
sorry to hear.
we did mention it twice:
-----
http://www.borndirty.org/forums/show...2&postcount=80
http://www.borndirty.org/forums/show...3&postcount=85

hit one of us up,
we'll sort it out.

or keep your search eyes open...*ahem*

later
-1

TheBang 12-09-2011 03:54 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
I just ran through "A Collection" and the biggest thing on there is Beebop Hurry in much better form than on Athens. First, the beginning is truly not mixed (i.e. this wasn't just taken from Athens). And the ending is properly there too, instead of being cut off as on Athens, which must have been a mistake.

The only other previously unavailable material is the 2011 Edits. They are true edits, not just fade-outs. But nothing special there. They just lose various sections to make it shorter overall. Skyscraper loses the whole "Can U Feel Me?" section from the end, and then some bits in the middle.

The only other track that is changed is the King of Snake (Straight [Mate] Mix) which has a weird fade added to the end that isn't present on the single version.

the mongoose 12-09-2011 07:35 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Ordered Anthology cd set from Amazon before reading the newsletter email from Underworldlive that stated if you ordered the cd from them that you get a download code to listen before the physical copy is mailed out. :rolleyes:

No big deal I guess, but wish that I could listen to rest of disc three now if nothing else (used my Amazon "bonus mp3 download" promotion from buying a qualified music product to snag the slightly fucked up Big Meat Show with the "TRANCING TRANCING" shit).

Troy McClure 12-10-2011 02:32 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Is that Karl playing the bass guitar groove in 'The Hump' that starts at 4:12 and the different guitar rhythm parts in "Minniapolis"? Or are they loops from some other sources? I can't recall if this was already discussed or not. They sound like Karl's style...real funky.

Jason.

holden 12-11-2011 10:01 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 152277)
maybe there aren't that many rarities and outtakes from the other time periods.

Maybe not in forms ready for release, but there have got to be demos and bits. Some of these were intersong jams on tour (a bunch from AHDO, iirc)... But off the top of my head, i wouldn't mind

"Five Points" (~1998)
"Cappe Ffuno" (BF)
"Bamboo" (post OWB)
a number of "in development" tracks that we'd heard on radio shows but never again..

joethelion 12-11-2011 01:18 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by holden (Post 152375)
Maybe not in forms ready for release, but there have got to be demos and bits. Some of these were intersong jams on tour (a bunch from AHDO, iirc)... But off the top of my head, i wouldn't mind

"Five Points" (~1998)
"Cappe Ffuno" (BF)
"Bamboo" (post OWB)
a number of "in development" tracks that we'd heard on radio shows but never again..

...and they could've used those tracks given out for free (but in LOW bitrates) from UW Live

but my point was - there were even released b-sides and whatnot from the other periods - I just found it interesting that they didn't include anything from STITI, BF, AHDO, OWB

...and someone mentioned that "Simple Peal" was different - but I don't really notice any differences (between the "Anthology" "Barking" "Underworldlive.com" and "Beautiful Burnout ArtJam - The Art of Underworld" releases

potatobroth 12-12-2011 01:21 PM

Re: Underworld "1992-2012 The Anthology " and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
thanks -1. I just iTunesed the longer version of Jumbo. I just meant I'm sick (all bands, not just UW) of the multiple releases and versions. Although UW releases do seem to have quite a bit of this going on.

Sappys Curry 12-12-2011 07:16 PM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joethelion (Post 152378)

...and someone mentioned that "Simple Peal" was different - but I don't really notice any differences (between the "Anthology" "Barking" "Underworldlive.com" and "Beautiful Burnout ArtJam - The Art of Underworld" releases

That might be me you are talking about. I mentioned that, but others say that isn't the case, so I should listen to the Barking version and the Anthology version back to back. I had thought that one section that lasted for only a short while was different. I'll double check.

About Oich Oich, someone was talking about how it had a video in '93...I'm curious about Oich Oich (one of my favorite UW tracks)...I've heard some call it a STITI era track and others call it a Dubno era track. Which era is it? Does it belong to one or the other, or did it emerge in between the end of the Dubno era tracks but before the creation of the STITI era tracks?

Also, about the Big Meat Show, it is too bad about the vocals being cut off at one point. It is a demo, though. But I'm glad that a different version of the leaked track was made available. It is nice to have another version of it. I still like the Dubno DAT demo better. Hopefully the CD version of Big Meat Show will have an edit of the cut off lyrics and a better ending (it does fade really fast).

Mike 12-13-2011 02:58 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sappys Curry (Post 152393)
About Oich Oich, someone was talking about how it had a video in '93...I'm curious about Oich Oich (one of my favorite UW tracks)...I've heard some call it a STITI era track and others call it a Dubno era track. Which era is it? Does it belong to one or the other, or did it emerge in between the end of the Dubno era tracks but before the creation of the STITI era tracks?

I don't think it is so absolute. If your talking about when it was released on CD, then i would call it a STITI era track... And the atmosphere certainly fits more into the STITI.

Although you could also argue that Juanita, Air Towel and NUXX were being played in some of their early shows - they could have even been written at the same time as some Dubno era tracks...

The music timeline seems complex. They have always been creative - writing tracks, shelving tracks, bringing back tracks that were written 10 years ago to complete them...

TheBang 12-13-2011 03:49 AM

Re: Underworld "1992-2012 The Anthology " and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Like Mike said, it's hard to say sometimes. For example, for Always Loved a Film, would you consider it an AHDO era track, RiverRun era, OwB era, or Barking era? Because it had versions appear in each of those. For simplicity's sake, I'd categorize it for when it was officially released.

But even then, Oich Oich is cloudier than your average track. As someone mentioned, on the Footwear Repairs jacket, the music video is listed as 1993. So would that count as an official release before its first official audio release in 1996? I don't know.

gaborez 12-14-2011 05:19 AM

Re: Underworld "The Anthology 1992-2012" and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sappys Curry (Post 152393)
About Oich Oich, someone was talking about how it had a video in '93...I'm curious about Oich Oich (one of my favorite UW tracks)...I've heard some call it a STITI era track and others call it a Dubno era track. Which era is it? Does it belong to one or the other, or did it emerge in between the end of the Dubno era tracks but before the creation of the STITI era tracks?

Somewhere in my loft is a copy of 'Kiteless - A Tomato Project' which in case anyone doesnt know was a VHS released way back before Footwear Repairs. I think Footwear Repairs is this Kiteless project plus later STITH vids (oh, and Dirty apparently).

Anyhoo, the Kiteless VHS came out in 1994 and has the Oich Oich vid on it. In fact i think snippets of Oich Oich may've been used between the other tracks too (?). It was great at the time to get a brand new track on the vid :)

I guess that puts it deffo in the dubno era... It being so old i wasnt so excited when it appeared with Pearls Girl, but Cherry Pie made me very happy :)

joethelion 12-14-2011 04:42 PM

Re: Underworld "1992-2012 The Anthology " and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
yea - Oich Oich is definitely a 'dubno' track... not only did they perform it live back then, it was also 'finished enough' to be put on an official release (although, as a video first.) To me it even "sounds" more like a dubno song than a STITI

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 12-15-2011 07:48 AM

Re: Underworld "1992-2012 The Anthology " and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
I think it's best not to question the track choices at all, they're weird across the board. Like I don't understand how "To Heal" is on the second disc in lieu of something like "JAL to Tokyo" or "Always Loved a Film" as it's totally different (and much shorter) than everything else on the set (at least until disc 3)

either way - gives me an excuse to hear all these oldies again. seriously wondering if my kids are going to be looking at me someday the way I did my parents when they listened to Huey Lewis & the News or Steely Dan. still love everything here

Dirty0900 12-16-2011 10:14 AM

Re: Underworld "1992-2012 The Anthology " and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
The Anthology is now on Spotify.

negative1 12-16-2011 03:37 PM

Re: Underworld "1992-2012 The Anthology " and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty0900 (Post 152424)
The Anthology is now on Spotify.

yeah, but the US doesn't allow access to
disc 3, bonus tracks.does the UK?

later
-1

lament 12-18-2011 01:31 AM

Re: Underworld "1992-2012 The Anthology " and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty0900 (Post 152424)
The Anthology is now on Spotify.

It's also on Rdio, but with the shorter Bigmouth and Jumbo. :mad:

Dirty0900 12-18-2011 08:49 AM

Re: Underworld "1992-2012 The Anthology " and "A Collection": Release Dec. 4, 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 152428)
yeah, but the US doesn't allow access to
disc 3, bonus tracks.does the UK?

later
-1

No, just the two disc ones and as lament said, with the shorter Bigmouth and Jumbo


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