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jose m 05-17-2010 12:49 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
thats them !
isn't it?
:confused:

Dirty0900 05-17-2010 01:15 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Is it longer then the previous broadcast? Felt like a fast fade was put on it originally

BrotherLovesDub 05-17-2010 03:18 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite (Post 121862)
i with ya.

unless underworld have started using speak and spell to make music

this track is basic shit

Matt, please hand in your Number 1 SuperFan badge. First of all, I can't believe you would doubt it's Underworld.

Next, I can't believe you missed the obvious sarcasm/piss-take of Jose M's post.

Third. Chewbacca.

BrotherLovesDub 05-17-2010 03:33 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Good Day Today starts on the KCRW stream of Morning Becomes Eclectic at 2:25:00

Dirty0900 05-17-2010 03:39 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 121922)
Good Day Today starts on the KCRW stream of Morning Becomes Eclectic at 2:25:00

Link:

http://www.kcrw.com/media-player/med...alamar_true_bl

BrotherLovesDub 05-17-2010 03:50 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
it's basically the exact same length as the prev. rip. i recorded the stream again but you don't get anything useful out of it that hasn't been heard already.

joethelion 05-17-2010 04:16 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
it kinda reminds me of the Brian Eno song "And Then So Clear" (off of the album "Another Day On Earth")

but with a UW beat thrown over it...

and what's funny - is that UW played "And then so clear" during a radio show a while ago, before Eno's album came out in 2005. At the time - I was convinced UW had something to do with that song


About the gun samples - some of them seem to fit perfectly - while others absolutely seem "tacked on"

and it's weird that they're only during the first bit of the song

BrotherLovesDub 05-17-2010 04:54 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
the gunshots and sound effects appear at 2:00 - 2:11 and don't appear again. the song is appx 4.5mins meaning the gunshots appear midway through the track. I've transcribed the lyrics on page 1 of this thread and if you look at those, you'll see where they appear and that they don't reappear. Listen to the production and effects of those noises. They've got reverb and they sit perfectly in the mix. This is not added by KCRW and are indeed intentional. Why all the confusion?

BrotherLovesDub 05-17-2010 04:57 PM

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[QUOTE=joethelion;121925]


About the gun samples - some of them seem to fit perfectly - while others absolutely seem "tacked on"

/QUOTE]

What do you mean 'some of them'? The gunshot sample appears twice, in sequence and the stomping noise that follows also appears twice. There is a pattern established by the lyrics and those fit into that pattern. The gunshot and stomping samples happen in exactly the same 'space' both times they appear. This is like some 9/11 Truther shit where people are looking for clues that just aren't there.

Jason Roth 05-17-2010 05:15 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
and the forums are officially back in business!

Dunwho 05-17-2010 05:19 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Roth (Post 121928)
and the forums are officially back in business!

:D

cacophony 05-17-2010 05:33 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
i'm trying, guys. i'm really trying. i still can't say i like it but it's growing on me. slowly.

the refrain is stuck in my head right now, so that's something. still hate the gunshot noises, though.

Steven Beck 05-17-2010 06:46 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
You shouldn't try to like something for the sake of liking it. Watch;

This song is horrible.

frazh 05-17-2010 07:00 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
I kind of like this one...basic programming structure that does not really evolve into much, but is still very enjoyable. Hoping the gunshots are not really a part of the track...maybe thrown into the promo as a way of distinguishing it from the official release?

Certainly better than the High Contrast collab. HC destroyed my love for YDS.

cacophony 05-17-2010 07:10 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Beck (Post 121937)
You shouldn't try to like something for the sake of liking it. Watch;

This song is horrible.

it's not just for the sake of liking it. i've got no problem deciding it doesn't appeal to me if it never clicks. but i do try to get my head around new songs and see if a bit of repetition makes them more appealing.

the mongoose 05-17-2010 08:00 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 121926)
the gunshots and sound effects appear at 2:00 - 2:11 and don't appear again. the song is appx 4.5mins meaning the gunshots appear midway through the track. I've transcribed the lyrics on page 1 of this thread and if you look at those, you'll see where they appear and that they don't reappear. Listen to the production and effects of those noises. They've got reverb and they sit perfectly in the mix. This is not added by KCRW and are indeed intentional. Why all the confusion?

this.

unwound floors 05-17-2010 09:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cacophony (Post 121939)
it's not just for the sake of liking it. i've got no problem deciding it doesn't appeal to me if it never clicks. but i do try to get my head around new songs and see if a bit of repetition makes them more appealing.

I've done this often, too - tracks like Holding the Moth and Faxed Invitation I loathed on first listen, but given a bit of time, repeat listens, and the context of the rest of the album, suddenly they made a lot more sense and I began to really enjoy them.

Don't know whether this'll happen for me and Good Day Today, though - lyrically, it's one of Underworld's weakest efforts; musically, it's bland and those vocoded vocals sound really, really off. I'm going to give it a few more listens, but my hopes are low. I'm really hoping the rest of the album has more of a 'Scribble' feel, as opposed to carrying the feel and themes of 'Good Day Today' across it...

starfox203 05-17-2010 09:57 PM

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The gun shots work perfectly in context of the lyrics and mood of the song. They're supposed to be jarring. He's sick and tired of all the violence, and smoke and fire. It's great. I couldn't stop listening over and over today.

bryantm3 05-17-2010 09:57 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
good day today seems to me to be a crossover between the numb slow tracks on OWB (the entire album minus crocodile and BB) and 8 ball. i hope the new album doesn't suck like the last one did. i mean, i love UW. and i love the stuff they were playing live right before the album was released. but when it came out, it was such a downer. i mean, the majority of the album has this radiohead-style electronic depression that is just awful. it's not the same as the active sadness as seen on tracks like 'dirty epic', they just seem to have this 'i've given up on life' feel to them. does anyone agree? i'm specifically talking about 'glam bucket', 'faxed invitation', 'cuddle bunny', 'holding the moth' and 'boy boy boy'.

dubman 05-18-2010 12:57 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Beck (Post 121937)
You shouldn't try to like something for the sake of liking it. Watch;

This song is horrible.

lol

unwound floors 05-18-2010 01:28 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantm3 (Post 121947)
good day today seems to me to be a crossover between the numb slow tracks on OWB (the entire album minus crocodile and BB) and 8 ball. i hope the new album doesn't suck like the last one did. i mean, i love UW. and i love the stuff they were playing live right before the album was released. but when it came out, it was such a downer. i mean, the majority of the album has this radiohead-style electronic depression that is just awful. it's not the same as the active sadness as seen on tracks like 'dirty epic', they just seem to have this 'i've given up on life' feel to them. does anyone agree? i'm specifically talking about 'glam bucket', 'faxed invitation', 'cuddle bunny', 'holding the moth' and 'boy boy boy'.

Really? Oblivion with Bells is the complete opposite, for me, haha - it's an album I'll put on when everything seems awful and fucked-up and wrong, because it comforts me so much. It's got an edge of sadness to it, sure (Beautiful Burnout with its gentle melancholy, Boy Boy Boy and its sense of disconnection, and to an extent, Faxed Invitation), but for me, anyway, it's an album about hope. I'd liken it to stepping out of the house after a stormy, rain-soaked evening into a clear dawn. Tracks like 'To Heal', 'Ring Road' and 'Crocodile', are all filled with a certain sense of peace ("all these things in me, in me" / "and every time I think of you, I get my peace back"). And the fact that the album ends with Good Morning Cockerel and Best Mamgu Ever kind of drives it home for me - the use of piano and delicate, gentle synths in them are just the best!

stimpee 05-18-2010 02:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantm3 (Post 121947)
good day today seems to me to be a crossover between the numb slow tracks on OWB (the entire album minus crocodile and BB) and 8 ball. i hope the new album doesn't suck like the last one did....... i'm specifically talking about 'glam bucket', 'faxed invitation', 'cuddle bunny', 'holding the moth' and 'boy boy boy'.

OWB like all the albums have their "bad" songs and "good" songs. But these songs are different for every listener.

for me, OWB, i feel that BB is great but goes on too long (Glam Bucket loses direction also). Crocodile has lost some of the feel of the "All These Things" live versions from 2005 but is still good. The "bad" songs for me are Cuddly Bunny and Good Morning Cockerel. But the rest of the album is excellent. Loads of Birds included. It has aged well in the last few years and I like it more than I did originally.

I think the same will happen with this album. Good Day Today is dividing people just as Ring Road did. Karls vocal delivery then raised eyebrows. This song is different. I dont like this song because its Underworld, I like this song because its got an old school electro feel, but with modern bits. The beat is fast, the gunshots are cool and fit in perfectly (if you listen to the lyrics before the shots) and if you like Kraftwerk or Anthony Rother you are sure to like this as you can hear the influences.

After repeated listens to Cuddly Bunny and Good Morning Cockerel, I still dont like them, but Good Day Today is a grower.

bryantm3 05-18-2010 03:19 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
i respect your opinion, but i must ask, where can i hear 'loads of birds'?

Yannick 05-18-2010 04:36 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
this isn't underworld.

jose m 05-18-2010 04:37 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
i wasn't joking...it isn't underworld.
don't let that stop you liking it....each to his own.

stimpee 05-18-2010 05:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 121865)
I dont care who this is, if its Underworld or not. I like it.

Well, my statement stands.

//\/\/ 05-18-2010 05:25 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
so was that dj bloke just showing off, or did someone lead him up the garden path and around the block a bit?

Dirty Canuck 05-18-2010 05:33 AM

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I agree with Stimpee. Google still has no info of another artist listed for this track other than Underworld. :confused:

jose m 05-18-2010 06:18 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 121959)
Well, my statement stands.

fair enough :)

stimpee 05-18-2010 08:18 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by //\/\/ (Post 121961)
so was that dj bloke just showing off, or did someone lead him up the garden path and around the block a bit?

Im sure someone from/close to Underworld is gonna get on the phone to KRCW and/or Chrysalis ASAP and ask where this came from.

As much as we want this tune to be from Underworld, its not. However, I wouldnt let that affect your enjoyment of the tune, and I'm intrigued to find out a) just who this is and b) how they managed to pull the wool over the eyes of the radio station.

Professor 05-18-2010 09:04 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
m83 rip

BrotherLovesDub 05-18-2010 09:35 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Please let your opinion be known. Do you think Good Day Today is Underworld?

If you say no, please explain how a band could have their track played twice on the biggest radio show in America, both times mistaken for another band and not have any web presence or mention anywhere online that mentions the mistake, your band name with the song etc. I would love for someone to google around for it. I've done it. I even used Bing™ when I'd exhausted all the possible combinations on google.

This is Underworld.

joethelion 05-18-2010 10:03 AM

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[QUOTE=BrotherLovesDub;121927]
Quote:

Originally Posted by joethelion (Post 121925)


About the gun samples - some of them seem to fit perfectly - while others absolutely seem "tacked on"

/QUOTE]

What do you mean 'some of them'? The gunshot sample appears twice, in sequence and the stomping noise that follows also appears twice. There is a pattern established by the lyrics and those fit into that pattern. The gunshot and stomping samples happen in exactly the same 'space' both times they appear. This is like some 9/11 Truther shit where people are looking for clues that just aren't there.


well - I only heard it once via the live stream...

if I remember correctly, the first few gun sounds - appear intentional
there was even some reverb/ effects and it matched with the beat

but there was this one specific gun sound that was repeated once or twice... if memory serves me, it almost sounded like a "gun reload" or like a "ca chink a chink chink" sound that was LOUDER than all the other 'gun sounds' (and ANYTHING else present in the track) and it was off beat


(edit)
That being said... I still believe it IS by Underworld
and I wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with Brian Eno
but that's pretty much just a random thought with no factual basis
mainly just because it sounds like "And Then So Clear" with an UW beat on top

cacophony 05-18-2010 10:13 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantm3 (Post 121947)
it's not the same as the active sadness as seen on tracks like 'dirty epic', they just seem to have this 'i've given up on life' feel to them. does anyone agree? i'm specifically talking about 'glam bucket', 'faxed invitation', 'cuddle bunny', 'holding the moth' and 'boy boy boy'.

i don't agree with your overall point, but specifically i don't agree with your inclusion of glam bucket in that list. glam bucket is glorious and exhilarating. it's one of my top most listened to tracks of their entire catalog.


re: good day today, the refrain is stuck in my head and won't go away. i still dislike the verses, especially the one with the gunshots. but damn if the chorus isn't catchy.

cacophony 05-18-2010 10:19 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 121972)
Please let your opinion be known. Do you think Good Day Today is Underworld?

If you say no, please explain how a band could have their track played twice on the biggest radio show in America, both times mistaken for another band and not have any web presence or mention anywhere online that mentions the mistake, your band name with the song etc. I would love for someone to google around for it. I've done it. I even used Bing™ when I'd exhausted all the possible combinations on google.

This is Underworld.

i'm still not convinced it's underworld. i can't prove it because i can't prove a negative. lack of evidence pointing to another artist doesn't mean the opposite statement is automatically true.

and come on. misinformation is easy to perpetuate when the number of sources are so few and far between. bigger mistakes/hoaxes have happened.


like i said, if it's on the album i'll happily stand corrected. but until i see a hard connection between band and song, i'll continue to have my doubts.

BrotherLovesDub 05-18-2010 10:33 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
One of the most respected DJ's in America debuts Underworld song on the same day Pete Tong debuts Scribble on Essential Mix. DJ says it's Underworld. Following monday, same DJ plays same track, says it's Underworld. DJ says it's from Underworld's new album.

I'm not asking you to prove a negative. I'm asking you to find the band who is responsible for Good Day Today. Their song just got 2 plays on KCRW's biggest show, that's a big deal. Surely they would have a myspace page, a twitter account, facebook page, something mentioning their album/tracklist/song title. Find the playlist where Good Day Today was played and google every track on there and tell me how many you don't find mentions of online.

joethelion 05-18-2010 10:38 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Anyone else notice that the track totally continues on while Jason Bently talks

and it clearly ISN'T the end of the song

(edit)
I just re-listened to the track

the "gun sound" that I was saying didn't seem to fit is at 02:27:05 in the KCRW broadcast
and it's not the "gun firing" sound I'm referring to..

(edit 2)
and it's WEIRD that Yannick said it isn't by Underworld
and WE received no notice of this coming out

but... I wouldn't be surprised if it is Underworld

or at least - Brian Eno feat Karl Hyde (maybe with Rick... maybe not)

and has anyone else listened to that Eno track I mentioned?

ThingInABook 05-18-2010 10:58 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
maybe they're just testing the tracks? as well as single possibilities? they already picked a single for the UK and probably for the rest of the world, but USA's market is different and probably they picked a track that's more 'underworld' than Scribble.

khouri 05-18-2010 10:58 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 121980)
One of the most respected DJ's in America debuts Underworld song on the same day Pete Tong debuts Scribble on Essential Mix. DJ says it's Underworld. Following monday, same DJ plays same track, says it's Underworld. DJ says it's from Underworld's new album.

I'm not asking you to prove a negative. I'm asking you to find the band who is responsible for Good Day Today. Their song just got 2 plays on KCRW's biggest show, that's a big deal. Surely they would have a myspace page, a twitter account, facebook page, something mentioning their album/tracklist/song title. Find the playlist where Good Day Today was played and google every track on there and tell me how many you don't find mentions of online.

Your logic is sound, BLD, but other facts remain: Good Day Today doesn't sound anything like Underworld, or at least so much unlike Underworld that many people are suspicious; the band has not commented on this via Twitter or Facebook or anything; Yannick says it's not Underworld.

Further, this sort of stuff still happens all the time. The internet is filthy with all kinds of phony "new DAFT PUNK" tracks. It's a phenomenon left over from the Napster days where every electronic song was credited to Moby or The Prodigy just because people were ignorant or malicious. My suspicion is that someone emailed this song to Jason Bentley and said it was Underworld and he played it. I used to work in the music industry, it is woefully disorganized and I have no trouble believing a scenario that simple. Why they did it is another question. Maybe just for laughs, or maybe someone passed it to them and they passed it along in good faith.

starfox203 05-18-2010 11:01 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
I've said before... Jason Bentley is a huge Underworld fan. I live in LA and listen to KCRW everyday. I've met Jason and seen him play live. He would not make this mistake twice. This song is flying under the radar.

America and Europe are two different markets. There's a huge market for hardcore dance music in England, which is why Scribble makes sense for big radio play there. There is no market or show in the US like Tong's on regular radio. Even KCRW doesn't play hard core dance music like that often (some night time shows), but certainly not Morning Becomes Eclectic. Good Day Today fits the KCRW demographic perfectly, so it makes sense.

I guarantee you it's Underworld.

And the gun firing is very deliberate (and works - well - for me).

I love the lyrics and the general sense of the song. Lyrically it's similar to 8 Ball and Two Months Off.


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