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34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 05-13-2010 02:53 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty0900 (Post 121456)
The thing is, people would have complained it was a clone of an old release from five years ago, but people will complain of the radical change like this which is for the good imo.

Honestly I could care less if YDS is a single or not, I'm kind of glad they are releasing totally new stuff, I just wish those 'old' tracks would come back...not to say AHDO was bad, it was a good album and all, however I kind of wondered if they had lost it a little without Emerson, but YDS was the track that to me said they were still great and maybe even better than before, so it'll always be special to me.

It's hard to appriciate just how great UW are in that sense..can't think of any group that has so many great unreleased tracks...

Dirty0900 05-13-2010 02:58 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/zanelowe/...orld_scri.html

Dirty0900 05-13-2010 02:59 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/zanelowe/...orld_scri.html

starfox203 05-13-2010 03:00 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Anyone want to take a stab at lyrics?

Dirty0900 05-13-2010 03:03 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
From the sound of the interview, a few collaborations ahead? They did mention Sia ages ago...

the-star-samurai 05-13-2010 03:11 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Later in the year = this summer? 8D

I don't know how the new album is going to sound like - which is incredibly exciting and nerve-wracking at the same time! Hahaha!

bas_I_am 05-13-2010 03:16 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty0900 (Post 121473)

"Not available in my area"

bas_I_am 05-13-2010 03:19 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 121471)
Exclusive free mp3 download of the first single from new Underworld album which is due to be released later in the year.

"denied"

mondokat 05-13-2010 03:32 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bas_I_am (Post 121478)
"Not available in my area"

Ditto. :(

dubman 05-13-2010 03:35 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by purlieu (Post 121467)
I've listened to it a few more times now.
I really hate modern dnb so the whole rhythm section is grating to my ears. I just found a live version of YDS (which I hadn't heard before) and it's got a dnb style but actually sounds interesting. I hate High Contrast.
It's catchy though, isn't it?

it is!
it's nice to hear karl being the best part of a song again
overall this is kinda bad but not as maddeningly stupid and depressing if they had just straight released YDS how it was
i'll hang in there i guess

the mongoose 05-13-2010 03:42 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Sounds great, but very different from the You Do Scribble of the past couple of years. More pop influenced and structured for radio I'd say. Very promising sounds for the new album, and a wonderful freebie. I'm missing the traditional YDS breakdown that is just awfully neutered here (comes in around 1:34) and is just left for dead and replaced with some 80's synth stabs.:p You can barely here it now and it's been warbled and changed to sound like it's slowing down or somthing.

Dirty0900 05-13-2010 03:45 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Despite all the seeming initial opinion being off towards it because we've heard it before.

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 05-13-2010 03:47 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman (Post 121481)
it is!
it's nice to hear karl being the best part of a song again
overall this is kinda bad but not as maddeningly stupid and depressing if they had just straight released YDS how it was
i'll hang in there i guess

"bad, but it could have been worse" is actually kind of a compliment coming from you

darktrain 05-13-2010 03:48 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
On further listens, it's the generic dnb sound that prevents me from really loving this. In many uw tracks, they're able to take even your standard 4/4 kick drum and make it feel "special". IMHO this does not feel special.

dubman 05-13-2010 03:56 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
i love them, i wouldnt get all discombobulated over everything they've been doing in the last few years if i didnt. though just to bring us back to reality this'll probably be the first UW album i expect with a neutrality that'll make it compete with everything else coming out. if it's not interesting, i'm not going to try my best to listen to it in a million different ways to start "appreciating" it. it'll either stick or not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by darktrain (Post 121486)
On further listens, it's the generic dnb sound that prevents me from really loving this. In many uw tracks, they're able to take even your standard 4/4 kick drum and make it feel "special". IMHO this does not feel special.

eeeeexactly

BrotherLovesDub 05-13-2010 04:14 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
hey guys, if this is generic dnb, please point me to or list 3-5 examples that sound similar enough to warrant calling this track 'generic'.

i'll wait...

the mongoose 05-13-2010 04:15 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by starfox203 (Post 121475)
Anyone want to take a stab at lyrics?

...and it's so GAAAAAAAAAAAAY*
...and it's so GAAAAAAAAAAAAY
...and it's so GAAAAAaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAY

I feel so gay
you give me everything I need
I feel so gay
you give me everything I need

Whispers
Elevator
Bad Boy
Dry
Kneel Girl
(Ka)-Bang


I feel so gay (I feel so gay)
you give me everything I need
I feel so gay (I feel so gay)
you give me everything I need


This much is true
the jews come out
to beg for rain
every hour
Hiking through town
Move your mouth
cops move in
everything out
and then I went out
I wanna be, I wanna be a Star
You gotta be in this town


I feel so gay
you give me everything I need
and it's so gay
you give me everything I need


*or then again it could be "It's okay" but I don't think so.:D

Dirty0900 05-13-2010 04:24 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 121491)
hey guys, if this is generic dnb, please point me to or list 3-5 examples that sound similar enough to warrant calling this track 'generic'.

i'll wait...

Agreed, this owns any "generic" shit that Pendulem would shit out.

TheBang 05-13-2010 04:24 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
Well, I liked it. I'd love to hear the full version. I'm glad they're pushing forward and not just regurgitating the versions of tracks we've been hearing for years.

Personally, I find the studio version of You Do Scribble to be a bit dry, but I'll bet they'll probably put it on the single for those of you that want it.

Collaborations are not necessarily a bad thing, and I'm sure the boys will make judicious use of them, and not fill an album full of collabs (yuck). But if they can turn out well AND provide more exposure for the band, then I'm all for it.

the mongoose 05-13-2010 04:38 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty0900 (Post 121493)
Agreed, this owns any "generic" shit that Pendulem would shit out.

That's "Pendulum", and they do change up their generic style sometimes too....
>>>4/4 track called 'The Island' from their new album<<<:p

Like stated earlier, if UW just released a fancy studio version of YDS everyone would be grumbling, if they release something new and different everyone grumbles cause it's not what they originally expected/ hoped for. There's nothing wrong with this new track, it's going to grow on most of yall just fine (especially the long version I'd imagine). Also, there's nothing wrong with Drum and Bass music!!! Now you pesky fuckers complain about the beats and so UW will read the responses here and decide that they don't want to do any more DnB (if they even do actually read what you "morans" think).:D

dubman 05-13-2010 04:42 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
talking about beats you flabtards. everything else is there and theirs, good or not, but that loop is a sore thumb

asshole

dubman 05-13-2010 04:45 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
oh jesus go back to the news forum dude

BrotherLovesDub 05-13-2010 04:45 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
sorry, but 'the generic dnb sound' is the only thing present in the original version of YDS. Scribble adds synth melody and lyrics to 'the generic dnb sound' of YDS.

darktrain 05-13-2010 04:48 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman (Post 121496)
everything else is there and theirs, good or not, but that loop is a sore thumb

Exactly. Lenne Penne, for example, has a typical dnb beat but there's a bit more going on and it still has the uw stamp on it. (edit: maybe "generic" was too harsh of a way of saying "not-uwish enough for me")

To be positive, I do love the summery shininess on display. Bright and uplifting is a good thing:)

purlieu 05-13-2010 05:15 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
'Generic DnB beat'

Chase & Status:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwD1vQ_Gw2A

High Contrast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9pUR1QV3yQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH627fyAxpA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNsXHVeQv3g

Pendulum:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEPB7uzKuh4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6BKBIOtRXw

And so on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imZ57QZbFEc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ3Je2_YsBc


The beats are by High Contrast anyway, aren't they? And that Pendulum-esque synth at 1.20, I'm guessing. The rest of it's rather nice.

Dunwho 05-13-2010 05:22 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
All i am worried about is the typical turn to the "safe sound" that often accompanies a long career in a band.

This song sounds safe.. it is produced to a point where evrythngis smooth and easy to digest.. there are no rough edges... it doesnt sound like people created this.

The actual drum samples in YDS sound real... there is depth in them whereas there is no depth in Scribble... furthermore the drum in YDS is varying hugely throughout, its like a jam... the snare comes in at different points constantly keeping you interested. Scribble has a DnB sound that is as if they made 8 bars and copy-pasted the rest for the whole song. It is a completely different drum...

The best part of YDS (IMO) was the play between the pad synth with the bass sounds and the undulating synth which was the hook and gave it pase...

Here that element is hidden behind that trustrating bass wash that drowns out any character and flattens the song out something awful... Then that extra stabbing synth is something out of a Sclub7 remix...

Listening to High Contrast himself... this is just four of nearly every song i checked of his... he certainly has a sound doesnt he.... Sound familiar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n3cZ...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8h_M...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U87E7...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMcEh...eature=related

Now after listening to these of most other of his songs i invite anyone to compare the quality of the drum track in High Contrasts tunes to that of any live version of YDS....

Scribble is as much a High Contrast track ... its a remix... its whatever you call it.

But its not really Underworld is it?

And that is the danger of Collaboration.


I can wait to hear the first new underworld release from the new album I know it is going to be great! - but id like to thank High Contrast for producing a nice remix.. good boy - now sit down.

Sean 05-13-2010 05:26 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
I'm gonna need to listen to this a few times before forming a real opinion. I am excited right off the bat that it's a bit of a departure from the typical Underworld sound - not that I don't want to hear the typical "Underworld sound" any more, but I love when incredibly talented artists work a bit outside of their comfort zone.

I have a feeling I won't know how much I like it until I listen to it really loud in the car on a road trip. Luckily, the wife and I are heading off to do just that tomorrow evening...:D

Thanks for the freebie to anyone who was involved!!

Dunwho 05-13-2010 05:31 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
I posted this in the other thread... pretty much gets my opinion across... its a lovely High Contrast song isnt it?

All i am worried about is the typical turn to the "safe sound" that often accompanies a long career in a band.

This song sounds safe.. it is produced to a point where evrythngis smooth and easy to digest.. there are no rough edges... it doesnt sound like people created this.

The actual drum samples in YDS sound real... there is depth in them whereas there is no depth in Scribble... furthermore the drum in YDS is varying hugely throughout, its like a jam... the snare comes in at different points constantly keeping you interested. Scribble has a DnB sound that is as if they made 8 bars and copy-pasted the rest for the whole song. It is a completely different drum...

The best part of YDS (IMO) was the play between the pad synth with the bass sounds and the undulating synth which was the hook and gave it pace...

Here that element is hidden behind that trustrating bass wash that drowns out any character and flattens the song out something awful... Then that extra stabbing synth is something out of a Sclub7 remix...

Listening to High Contrast himself... this is just four of nearly every song i checked of his... he certainly has a sound doesnt he.... Sound familiar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n3cZ...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8h_M...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U87E7...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMcEh...eature=related

Now after listening to these or most other songs by him i invite anyone to compare the quality of the drum track in High Contrasts tunes to that of any live version of YDS....

Scribble is really just a High Contrast track ... or its a remix... its whatever you call it.

But its not really Underworld is it?

And that is the danger of Collaboration.


I cant wait to hear the first Underworld release from the new album - I know it is going to be great!

- but id like to thank High Contrast for producing a nice remix.. good boy - now sit down.

the mongoose 05-13-2010 05:33 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 121505)
I find this seriously offensive.


I find people that are easily offended to be overly offensive...or is it overly defensive?;)

I was just kidding around anyways.

khouri 05-13-2010 05:33 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
The Good

The lush and upbeat production style is a welcome change from the more spacious and decidedly quiet sound Underworld have been playing with since the RiverRuns. "Scribble" is also further evidence of a more pop-oriented direction, following "Between Stars" and "Diamond Jigsaw", which I quite like. It remains to be seen if Underworld will be successful in this direction, but it's an exciting change nevertheless. Imagine an album full of tracks as intricately written and produced (perhaps overproduced?) as "Scribble", as opposed to the more leisurely (but still brilliant, obviously) stuff like "Beautiful Burnout" or "Best Magmu Ever", I think that's exciting.

I also love the "Scribble" artwork, really nice change of pace for Underworld/Tomato to create something so feminine.

The Bad

"Scribble" isn't very good. To be fair, it's difficult to give the song its due as we've been living with the fairly brilliant "You Do Scribble" for five years. My initial reaction to "Scribble" was like my reaction to "Holding the Moth", which was also a somewhat dubious rework of a better live track ("Globe"). I would have preferred a studio version of YDS with the "Small Conker with a Twix" intro, it's possibly one of the best things Underworld's ever done.

I think the biggest problem with the song is the new melody, it just seems very non-Underworld, which is possibly a consequence of the collaboration with High Contrast (who I like). It sounds too cheesy, too candy raver-esque, and it exits to the virtual exclusion of the great synths from YDS.

The Ugly

"Scribble" seems like an aggressive move by Underworld to engage an audience beyond Dirties, which is absolutely reasonable and perhaps it's that audience's reaction by which the single's success should be judged. But speaking for myself, a hardcore Underworld fan since the mid-'90s, I have to call it like I hear it and I don't think this was a wise choice for a lead single. Regardless of its relative quality, why risk disappointing the built-in audience with a rework of a track they've been literally begging for years to pay money for in its original form?

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 05-13-2010 05:33 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Just got the d/l. First thought - doesn't really sound like UW. Beat is very untypical for these guys. Cool vocoder effects but I liked the unfiltered vocal in the original. Overall very cool and I hope they do more tracks like this one...cant wait for the 12er

Dunwho 05-13-2010 05:37 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by khouri (Post 121508)
The Good

The lush and upbeat production style is a welcome change from the more spacious and decidedly quiet sound Underworld have been playing with since the RiverRuns. "Scribble" is also further evidence of a more pop-oriented direction, following "Between Stars" and "Diamond Jigsaw", which I quite like. It remains to be seen if Underworld will be successful in this direction, but it's an exciting change nevertheless. Imagine an album full of tracks as intricately written and produced (perhaps overproduced?) as "Scribble", as opposed to the more leisurely (but still brilliant, obviously) stuff like "Beautiful Burnout" or "Best Magmu Ever", I think that's exciting.

I also love the "Scribble" artwork, really nice change of pace for Underworld/Tomato to create something so feminine.

The Bad

"Scribble" isn't very good. To be fair, it's difficult to give the song its due as we've been living with the fairly brilliant "You Do Scribble" for five years. My initial reaction to "Scribble" was like my reaction to "Holding the Moth", which was also a somewhat dubious rework of a better live track ("Globe"). I would have preferred a studio version of YDS with the "Small Conker with a Twix" intro, it's possibly one of the best things Underworld's ever done.

I think the biggest problem with the song is the new melody, it just seems very non-Underworld, which is possibly a consequence of the collaboration with High Contrast (who I like). It sounds too cheesy, too candy raver-esque, and it exits to the virtual exclusion of the great synths from YDS.

The Ugly

"Scribble" seems like an aggressive move by Underworld to engage an audience beyond Dirties, which is absolutely reasonable and perhaps it's that audience's reaction by which the single's success should be judged. But speaking for myself, a hardcore Underworld fan since the mid-'90s, I have to call it like I hear it and I don't think this was a wise choice for a lead single. Regardless of its relative quality, why risk disappointing the built-in audience with a rework of a track they've been literally begging for years to pay money for in its original form?

I agree completely...


but still think its actually just a High Contrast track..

"Wooops sorry guys i put the wrong record on the radio... here is the actual Underworld song you've all been waiting for!"

cacophony 05-13-2010 05:55 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fraser (Post 121447)
Can't seem to play it loud enough :)

it definitely demands loudness.

the mongoose 05-13-2010 06:01 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
So when is the WAV file going to be available to buy from the UWshop?

edit - Nevermind, I found it. Sounds much better too!

cacophony 05-13-2010 06:04 PM

Re: TONIGHT...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 121491)
hey guys, if this is generic dnb, please point me to or list 3-5 examples that sound similar enough to warrant calling this track 'generic'.

i'll wait...

thank you!

also who was it who said "crocodile" was bad a few pages back? blasphemy!

unwound floors 05-13-2010 06:09 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
The wait for this lecture to be over so I can jam my headphones on and give Scribble a good listen is killer...

ThingInABook 05-13-2010 06:10 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
i was wondering about the contents of the download... but it's just 75p! for the radio edit :(

can't wait to hear the full version. i love Scribble, it feels very autokratz-y. yeah, i also love underworld when they pull out things like vanilla monkey or stagger, but it's nice to hear something different and fresh, even if it sounds fitted for the radio. it has energy, thing missing from the latest singles (i'm looking at you, TMO and crocodile).

BrotherLovesDub 05-13-2010 06:12 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
You guys, it sounds EXACTLY like YDS but with a 5 note melody and lyrics added. All you people saying you loved YDS but think this sounds like a High Contrast track are delusional. The majority of the track is exactly the same beat as YDS.

cacophony 05-13-2010 06:12 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 121504)
I'm gonna need to listen to this a few times before forming a real opinion. I am excited right off the bat that it's a bit of a departure from the typical Underworld sound - not that I don't want to hear the typical "Underworld sound" any more, but I love when incredibly talented artists work a bit outside of their comfort zone.

i'm the same way. i love to hear them sound un-underworldish. i was thinking on my way home today about how much i loved peggy sussed the first time i heard that, and there are absolutely zero similar UW tracks that sound like that one. i remember being totally shocked the first time i heard ring road and then falling madly in love with how risky it was. this one is so very un-underworldish but i feel like it's a lovely little mad rush of adrenaline, and i have to appreciate that. i could add it to my "music to play on bright, sunny, perfect days" playlist, right by 8 ball.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 121504)
I have a feeling I won't know how much I like it until I listen to it really loud in the car on a road trip. Luckily, the wife and I are heading off to do just that tomorrow evening...:D

haha i'm about to leave the house to run to the store, although the store trip is a flimsy excuse to blast this track in my car and really get my head around it. ;)

cacophony 05-13-2010 06:16 PM

Re: Scribble - New Single
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by khouri (Post 121508)
I would have preferred a studio version of YDS with the "Small Conker with a Twix" intro, it's possibly one of the best things Underworld's ever done.

agree 1000%, which is not a commentary on the quality of this single. so far i like the single just fine. but small conker into YDS is quite possibly the most perfect thing UW has ever done and my soul aches for a clean studio version that i can listen to over and over and over and over and over.


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