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its about damn time.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...he-White-House

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So instead of giving important facts to be checked, they are turning into a media police that is cross checking the garbage they want us to swallow with whatever free speech is left in the press, and attempting to discredit anyone who says anything off the beaten script. That's fucked and to clap and cheer over this you'd fit right in with this bunch......>>>Click<<<

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It literally hurts to type a response to you, but I'll expend the effort. I would personally prefer that the white house stay out of the media circus and not be a player. To simply provide information from which the media can fact check their critics : that was their initial strategy.

It wasn't working, because it waaaaay over-estimated the maturity and intelligence of their critics that they would really even bother listening to arguments that threatened their dogma. It also over-estimated the media that they wouldn't completely pander to the loud and obnoxious, allowing it to fester into a movement, an entire dick armey of tea-baggers, as it were.

I want Obama to do his job and stand up and fight, not for himself, but for the truth of the problems facing this country, all blurred by the psychoses of people like yourself. And that's what I find most repugnant about your posts. You think you're unpopular on here because everyone is unthinking obama yes-bots.

You're unpopular because you're an intellectual meat head committing daily crimes against truth out of some arrogant need to demonize Obama. Its not that I'm unwilling to listen to criticism of Obama when I have so many complaints myself. All I hear after pages and pages of this stupid thread is a toddler with a poopy diaper throwing their blocks at the tv screaming "I hate you!"

Look man, Obama is your president. If you really can't handle it, and you can't justify your anger with reasons, and you refuse to question and inform yourself outside of your small bag of convictions, perhaps you should just do america a favor and spend the next three and a half years masturbating to girls gone wild in your bedroom. Seriously, disappear. that's the best thing you can do for your country. Let the adults discuss the problems while you go to beddy bye.

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Spot on post.

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cant remember if i read it in this thread or in an article but whoever pointed out that there's a lot of people, who were very flustered by the hyperventilating claims of the left, that are now kinda relishing the idea of throwing the same apocalyptic garbage right back are pretty spot on. regardless of approach, principles, actions, or style, the opportunity to be the underdog getting fucked with just seems too irresistable to not play up.

never mind that it's one of several things that make politics and forums circuitous and depressing.

i dont recall any warnings from the white house going "watch what you say" guy, it's just playing fact-checking against fact-checkers. grow a pair.

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CNN fact checked the SNL skit about Obama from the other night. Pretty scary when a media giant thinks that's a good use of resources.

Strangelet: high five!

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You need to return to the website from where you hotlinked that image, and re-stock up on their produce.

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Yay! A David Dees illustration complete with cackling politicians and sheeple!

(Careful though, your ruse is lurching a little too far into self-parody at this point)

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going all "i need to photoshop a frown on george washingtons face. and tears"

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I have to agree, although I don't understand what would motivate someone to pretend to be so stupid....

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Deckard, who is that in your post #95? It's, just..., ...right there, but I cannot match a name and it's driving me crazy.

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Richard Dawkins.

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Okay so what did Obama actually SAY in his speech to the kids in school? I think I missed it, and trawling through this thread has just revealed that the mongoose knows how to paste childish pictures from other sites rather than engage in meaningful and intelligent conversation. can someone please enlighten me? what was all the fuss about? did that guy on facebook ever reply?

I'm thinking about disabling inline images on the world forum.

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Ah. Climate change denial, an impending Communist world government, Obama signing our "freedom, democracy and prosperity" away FOREVER....Lord Christopher Monckton has all the makings of a top-notch moron...

Here's a link to the text of the speech. It contained such horrible and controversial statements as:

"...at the end of the day, we can have the most dedicated teachers, the most supportive parents, and the best schools in the world – and none of it will matter unless all of you fulfill your responsibilities. Unless you show up to those schools; pay attention to those teachers; listen to your parents, grandparents and other adults; and put in the hard work it takes to succeed."

But then things like the reality of what was said in this benign, in fact clearly positive speech is generally ignored by those who rabidly oppose Obama. Because the real goal isn't to expose truth, or make the country a better place. The real goal is to foment controversy, opposition, fear and paranoia of Obama in the run-up to this speech and anything else he does - like the stupidity on full display in Mongoose's link above. It's all purely political in it's motivations, and the ignorant masses are the ones who suffer for it.

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I can't believe I'm saying this but mongoose might have a small point, no doubt a point he made unwittingly....

I don't think politicians are the right people we should be looking towards for solving energy crises. Its not just climate change, its the depletion of oil and the outpacing demand versus supply. In each case its our underlying foundational sources of energy that is the problem.

from a times uk article....

The UK has two worn out nuclear reactors about to be scrapped, coal has been increasingly replaced by gas from the north sea to generate power, but those stocks are dwindling.

Maybe a suite of incentives, subsidies, taxes, and carbon caps, can steer the western free-ish markets into the right direction without shocking them, and that's assuming that maybe those attending cophenhagen are smart enough to figure out the recipe, and that's assuming that maybe they'll all agree and not have it cause more political hinderence through negative reactions. But that's a lot of maybes.

If I were Obama, I would say, oi. chill. I've got 600 billion dollars to spend that miraculously didn't go to the banks and the iraq war to invest in massive, unprecedented investment to engineering and scientific research outside of any corporate or political obligations.

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Since this seems to have become the kind of all-purpose U.S. politics thread, I thought it may be a good place to link this Republican Party Census form from the RNC website. I was blown away by the level of manipulation going on in it. Here are a few of the most blatantly leading questions, but it's worth browsing through them all...

5. Do you oppose the Obama National Energy Tax, also known as “cap and trade,” which would skyrocket your utility bills and destroy jobs while having virtually no impact on the environment?

1. Do you oppose the Obama-Pelosi health care takeover plan that would bring Washington bureaucrats between doctors and patients, ration medical treatment and deny critical care while skyrocketing the national debt?

1. President Obama recently signed an executive order mandating taxpayer dollars be spent to pay for abortions in foreign countries. Should Republicans pass legislation to repeal this executive order?

1. If Barack Obama tries to gut the USA PATRIOT Act and other important laws that promote the safety and security of all Americans, should Republicans in Congress fight back?

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Yes to all of those.

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Choice.

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That's "yes" to all of the most dishonest, leading, so-called "census" questions from the RNC? But wait, didn't you say...

Yeah, right. :rolleyes:

It's time to start being honest. If you're a Republican, that's fine. I have no issue with Republicans unless they're being douche-bags. Same with Democrats and my own group of registered independents for that matter. But if you're just being a poop-stirrer, then why not fess up?

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