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Badger 10-20-2017 03:15 PM

Re: Underworld to perform at Rijksmuseum
 
Stupid pointless Facebook...why only broadcast in mono in this day and age?

Dentaku 10-20-2017 03:22 PM

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Finally after all these years: the return of improv.

Just returned from an absolutely amazing night at the museum. The sound was awful, but what would you expect from a 19th century passage. Some ppl thought it was a drinking night out (that's what you get when you do tickets this way), and Heineken really should rethink handing out bottled beer, because at the time Nuxx hit, we were kneedeep in'm.
But what an absolute killer of a set and brilliant lightshow. Enjoyed the lot, and great that the finally played some Barking stuff again, although highly tweaked. Bummer that the stream is mono, because this set is definitely the new Everything, Everything.

holden 10-20-2017 03:49 PM

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Seems like it was a great gig. Sorry I missed it (twice; thought it was yesterday and was working through it today). Always excited for improv and tracks that are rarely played.

Bless you who recorded the stream ( Mono? Really?!) And let's hope that this gets an official release...

darmok 10-20-2017 04:01 PM

Re: Underworld to perform at Rijksmuseum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qirex (Post 163142)
It's rendered and back up on their facebook now, from the beginning.

I snagged the raw audio and video from Facebook before they deleted it (why?) and combined it into a single file. I've never done this before, but I'll try to put it up on RTSR once my account is approved unless someone else has already put up a raw (not re-encoded) version.

The video does drop out near the end of King of Snake and picks up again near the beginning of Jumbo. There are definitely some glitches in Jumbo, too. The audio is only 64kbps AAC, but since it is mono, the quality isn't that bad.

svirfnebli 10-20-2017 04:25 PM

Re: Underworld to perform at Rijksmuseum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darmok (Post 163161)
... but I'll try to put it up on RTSR once my account is approved unless someone else has already put up a raw (not re-encoded) version.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

jetpig 10-20-2017 04:37 PM

Re: Underworld to perform at Rijksmuseum
 
welp, my software crashed at some point and I didn't get anything. bummer.


edit: checked the crashlog, it crashed at 3:45 local time, show ended at 2, and I was home at 4:30. D:

purlieu 10-20-2017 05:01 PM

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Even if, somehow, I don't get to hear a recording of this, the responses in this thread alone are exciting enough to make it feel like the best parts of their live side are returning, and that makes me very happy.

khouri 10-20-2017 05:48 PM

Re: Underworld to perform at Rijksmuseum
 
THE NEW EVERYTHING EVERYTHING?

I can't wait to hear this.

jetpig 10-20-2017 06:07 PM

Re: Underworld to perform at Rijksmuseum
 
https://www.mixcloud.com/techno_powe...m-20-oct-2017/

or

https://www.mixcloud.com/LivesetsFor...m-20-oct-2017/

Dirty Saint 10-21-2017 03:42 AM

Re: Underworld to perform at Rijksmuseum
 
Thanks:)

stimpee 10-21-2017 05:51 AM

Re: Underworld to perform at Rijksmuseum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darmok (Post 163161)
I'll try to put it up on RTSR once my account is approved unless someone else has already put up a raw (not re-encoded) version..

APPROVED!

stimpee 10-21-2017 06:17 AM

Re: Underworld to perform at Rijksmuseum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dentaku (Post 163159)
Finally after all these years: the return of improv.

Just returned from an absolutely amazing night at the museum. The sound was awful, but what would you expect from a 19th century passage. Some ppl thought it was a drinking night out (that's what you get when you do tickets this way), and Heineken really should rethink handing out bottled beer, because at the time Nuxx hit, we were kneedeep in'm.
But what an absolute killer of a set and brilliant lightshow. Enjoyed the lot, and great that the finally played some Barking stuff again, although highly tweaked. Bummer that the stream is mono, because this set is definitely the new Everything, Everything.

Yeah I hear ya there. The organisation of the event was disastrous. Still 500 people waiting to get in at 8pm (when they said the doors would close), two different VIP/guest list entrances at either sides of the building. Overzealous security being heavy handed. Ful security grope on entering. Knee deep in heineken bottles and boy was it expensive if you wanted one. Also it was packed at the front. No room to dance. People talking ALL the time. Not many dancing. Loads of people smoking.

Having said all that, I was near the front speakers and it sounded great. Great lighting and lasers also. Also Underworld's performance was spot on and they really looked into it. Props to Tom Ravenscroft for the warm up too. Pity I missed most of Rick's warm up set but we heard Blue Bowler again which was nice. Can't wait for that to get a release.

ndrwrld 10-21-2017 07:23 AM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
thanks for the Mixcloud stuff.

Yannick, you owe me a glass.

Badger 10-21-2017 07:49 AM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Currently in the middle of a REMASTER of the set to repair a lot of glitches and dropouts and volume drops.

dubman 10-21-2017 08:15 AM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
got home, planned to clean, made myself a sandwich first, plopped down to see what was going on, and it had just started.

a lovely surprise. glad to see the dopey screen telling us what song it is gone. some warmer versions of songs (air towel!!) and brilliantly filmed. i got nothing done the entire time.

superdave 10-21-2017 11:21 AM

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dude...amazing! here here for jetpig!!

altho i didnt get tix, i felt like i was there, and can now relive the experience sonically.

really do hope that one of you dirties got a video feed you are going to share with us....that would be so sweet.....

cheers:)

darmok 10-21-2017 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 163173)
APPROVED!

Thank you! It's up, assuming I did it properly.

crank 10-21-2017 12:51 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
First track/
Between Stars- holy mackerel. SO MIND MELTING. really a massive improvement from Album version.

lloyd 10-21-2017 01:43 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Thnx for upping.
Good that they stepped away from the karaoke festival sets.

crank 10-21-2017 02:09 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lloyd (Post 163185)
Thnx for upping.
Good that they stepped away from the karaoke festival sets.

Wonder where Pricey was...

Badger 10-21-2017 02:51 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
He was there ...https://scontent.fmel1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...63&oe=5A789450

Badger 10-21-2017 03:06 PM

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Plus thought you might all like to see this...https://scontent.fmel1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...cd&oe=5A69E7E2

Badger 10-21-2017 03:07 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Anyone know what the new track "GWCW" is or stands for or is it nothing yet?

negative1 10-21-2017 03:46 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Is this discussion moving to moments, now that the tracks and listing are out?

i was looking for information over there, and didn't see anything.

later
-1

Badger 10-21-2017 03:50 PM

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thats probably a good call

Billy Goat 10-21-2017 04:11 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Badger (Post 163188)
Plus thought you might all like to see this...https://scontent.fmel1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...cd&oe=5A69E7E2

Is it just me or doesn't a setlist mean the gig wasn't as improvised as it was made out to be? �� Just saying!

Badger 10-21-2017 06:25 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
That version of Lenny Penne is the unreleased Darren Price Drums Remix

khouri 10-21-2017 07:07 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
THAT
WAS
MORE
LIKE
IT!


Not only the best show they've done in this decade, but one of their best shows of their careers.

Rick + Karl -- we've been very hard on you on these boards but you've knocked us all on our asses with this performance. So many surprises, from the new arrangements to Karl doing so much of the music to the new gear; this is the Underworld we love. You said "This was an interesting experiment" -- not interesting, SUCCESSFUL. Resoundingly. Please don't stop.

TheBang 10-21-2017 08:01 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darmok (Post 163182)
Thank you! It's up, assuming I did it properly.

Thanks. I've pulled it for now though. I'm going to put one up soon with slightly tweaked audio sync and chapters markers for the songs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crank (Post 163186)
Wonder where Pricey was...

Pricey hasn't been on stage since the end of the US dates last year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badger (Post 163193)
That version of Lenny Penne is the unreleased Darren Price Drums Remix

Well-spotted.

nelfun5 10-21-2017 09:47 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Goat (Post 163192)
Is it just me or doesn't a setlist mean the gig wasn't as improvised as it was made out to be? Just saying!

This.

And the setlist looks pretty similar to the one from their 2016 tour too... I don't quite get the improv fuss around this gig although I'd be the first advocate for more improv and less pauses between tracks on stage.

jetpig 10-21-2017 11:51 PM

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I've not listened past the first two songs yet, but they can choose songs and improv those songs, no? The bits I've heard definitely FELT different than the last few years, more like 07-09. I guess we will see what they do going forward. Whatever the case, the reception for this set has been phenomenal amd whatever they did differently they should keep doing... differently.

stimpee 10-22-2017 03:12 AM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Just because they have imrpovised a bit doesnt mean they never had a setlist. But they used to make the setlist every day and it would be similar but not identical.

Todd: I dont mind waiting but not too long!

King of Snake 10-22-2017 03:33 AM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Goat (Post 163192)
Is it just me or doesn't a setlist mean the gig wasn't as improvised as it was made out to be? �� Just saying!

Yeah well, I guess it wasn't improvised on the fly as far as which tracks they played and in what order. But at least it felt more improvised within the tracks, there was some mixing together from one track to the next (although mostly still just a fade in/fade out) and it wasn't just playing straight album versions of everything but actually some interesting re-interpretations (like Between Stars and Air Towel).

So is it back to the old glory days of full improv sets? Certainly not. And if I were Underworld I would mix and mash it up a lot more than they do still, but it sure did feel better and "more Underworld" than most of their sets from the past 10 years.

Badger 10-22-2017 06:06 AM

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I've put up a REMASTERED and FIXED version of the show on the RTSR tracker.

I've patched or repaired all the 33 dropouts/glitches/volume drops.

It might get taken down if a better cleaner source turns up but it's also track marked already and includes some extra FADE tracks if you want to burn to CD.

Badger 10-22-2017 06:06 AM

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To give you an idea. Here's my info file:

Underworld

Live @ Rijksmuseum, Amsterdam

20.10.2017

Facebook Live stream

01 - Red Earth (with Between Stars lyrics) new track
02 - GWCW (new track)
03 - Dark Train
04 - Pearls Girl
05 - Mmm...Skyscraper, I Love You
06 - Rez
07 - Downpipe (Dub) BIT/INTERLUDE
08 - Dark & Long
09 - Push Upstairs
10 - Two Months Off
11 - Good Morning (with Air Towel lyrics) new track
12 - Lenny Penne (Darren Price Drums Remix)
13 - Low Burn
14 - King Of Snake
15 - Jumbo
16 - Cowgirl
17 - Born Slippy . NUXX

We had three separate sources for this but only used two.
All three had the same dropout issues at all the same exact points.
Our main source was also missing the first 2.5 minutes

There were a lot of stream issues but mostly they were in the second half
of the set. I have fixed, repaired or patched all of the dropouts.
The only one we can't do anything about is the missing 3 mins from the
end of King Of Snake and the beginning of Jumbo as that was a feed transmission
loss.

A bloody great set with some new tracks and some nice new twists on old favs.

33 issues (dropouts/glitches/volume problems)

WORK DONE:

General remaster and boost

Red Earth (with Between Stars lyrics) -
02:19 cross to main source

GWCW (new track) (brief Bruce Lee lyrics) -
no issues

Dark Train -
no issues

Pearls girl -
no issues

Skyscraper -
28:03 till end there is a big volume drop = boosted and levelled up

Rez -
33:10 till 33:21 (start) needed a volume boost

Downpipe (Dub) -
no issues

Dark & Long -
46:12 - 46:13 patch a glitch
46:12 - 48:05 big volume drop boosted and levelled up gradually
51:49:157 - 51:49:179 dropout patched from surrounding bars

Push Upstairs -
53:04:506 - 53:04:606 glitch patched
54:31 - 54:36 volume lowered after sudden increase (mic feed seems to drop)
56:39 - 56:40 dropout patched
57:06 dropout patched

Two Months Off - no issues

[END OF DISC 1 IF BURNING TO CD]

Good Morning/Air Towel -
1:06:49 dropout repaired

Lenny Penne (Darren Price Drums Remix) -
01:16:23:146 - 01:16:23:928 several glitches in a row so patched a bigger
section from surrounding bars
01:16:42 - 01:16:43 dropout patched from surrounding bars
01:16:48 dropout patched from surrounding bars
01:17:08 - 01:17:09 dropout patched from surrounding bars

Low Burn -
01:17:50 - 01:17:51 dropout patched from surrounding bars
01:18:53 - 01:18:55 dropout patched
01:19:50:059 - 01:19:50:365 scratch glitch patched using surrounding bars
01:20:14 - 01:20:16 dropout patched

King Of Snake -
01:25:45 - 01:25:46 dropout repaired
01:26:05 dropout repaired
01:26:13 dropout repaired
01:26:48 dropout repaired

Jumbo -
01:33:43 - 01:33:44 dropout patched using surrounding bars
01:34:02 - 01:34:03 dropout patched using surrounding bars

Cowgirl -
01:38:41 - 01:38:42 dropout patched using surrounding bars
01:39:01 - 01:39:02 two dropouts repaired
01:39:35 dropout repaired
01:41:44 dropout repaired
01:41:52 dropout repaired
01:43:43 dropout repaired

Born Slippy -
01:46:22 - 01:46:25 several dropouts in a row so patched whole section with surrounding bars.
01:46:41 - 01:46:45 several dropouts in a row could not use surroundings bars as nothing matched but a section of bars from the very end of the track did match so used those instead.
01:47:28 dropout repaired

Remastering by Bill

Patching & Editing by Matt

Enjoy

stimpee 10-22-2017 07:48 AM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lloyd (Post 163185)
Thnx for upping.
Good that they stepped away from the karaoke festival sets.

Hey Lloyd! welcome back! Come out of retirement!

TheBang 10-22-2017 10:12 AM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Here's some parts of the preshow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRQxzVKjS7g

I guess I don't quite understand what's happening. Rick is mixing bits over Tom's beats? You can hear Trim vocals at 0:30.

TheBang 10-22-2017 10:16 AM

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From the keynote address. A Karl summary of everything from EE through Barbara Barbara

https://www.facebook.com/narrationsm...5454325154101/

It'd be nice if a video of the whole thing would surface.

Ploder 10-22-2017 12:25 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 163204)
Here's some parts of the preshow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRQxzVKjS7g

I guess I don't quite understand what's happening. Rick is mixing bits over Tom's beats? You can hear Trim vocals at 0:30.

The full show's here. Not sure if it's been posted. My search came up empty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at6kt17HMNY

All the glitches and dropouts are there, too. YAY!

jetpig 10-22-2017 12:38 PM

Re: 2017-10-20 Underworld Rijksmuseum Amsterdam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 163205)
From the keynote address. A Karl summary of everything from EE through Barbara Barbara

https://www.facebook.com/narrationsm...5454325154101/

It'd be nice if a video of the whole thing would surface.

There it is then, "They wanted us to become a stadium techno band, but that sounded like cheese."

The jumpy chronology of his story makes things odd. He talks about the dark times while talking about the VW project (2013) and then goes on to mention Danny boyle calling about two projects in what would have been 2010 as the start of better times.

Very illuminating, regardless.


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