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Strangelet 02-06-2009 08:26 PM

Re: Seems kind of slippery-slopey...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman (Post 108416)

so, in my mind, when slippery slop (ha, pun) arguments can be used to substantiate and give equal weight to both reasonable conjecture and outright conspiracy, it does turn into an easy device rather than anything i want to seriously think about.

This is the same city that put the kabosh on trans fats. This is more than an argument it's emperical at this point. So really the burden is on you to argue salt in itself isn't an absurd overreach. I also think it shows a dramatically undeserved trust in government go along with the salt crusade when it's merely a condiment on industrial overly processed poison that all comes from the same warehouse and microwaved to taste

IsiliRunite 02-07-2009 08:49 AM

Re: Seems kind of slippery-slopey...
 
There were almost no consumer-upside to restaurants using trans fats... almost like a poison. Salt is much, much different...

I think that is when we've jumped off the consumer advocacy shit and onto the oily slope.

myrrh 02-07-2009 12:38 PM

Re: Seems kind of slippery-slopey...
 
The Jewish sections of the cities here in Morocco are called Mellah, which means salt in Arabic. This is because during the Middle Ages the Jews used to be the salt traders. Back then salt was worth it's weight in Italian marble. I am not joking either, a kilo of salt was traded for a kilo of marble from Italy!

(this really has nothing to do with this thread, but it is an interesting FYI)

dubman 02-07-2009 04:52 PM

Re: Seems kind of slippery-slopey...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strangelet (Post 108418)
This is the same city that put the kabosh on trans fats. This is more than an argument it's emperical at this point. So really the burden is on you to argue salt in itself isn't an absurd overreach.

i think thats a matter of opinion, no?

i think it skirts the line, certainly, but i dont have a problem. when i feel that they've overstepped i'll say something, but i really, really dont mind this particular campaign.

some people think it oversteps a boundary and have a problem with it. thats fine. i dont care that much, i'm just opining.

so far we're seeing an obvious link from a-to-b, but it's hardly "emprical" that the only direction it's got to go in is 'c.' it certainly could, but it's really not a bridge burned once it's crossed.

Strangelet 02-09-2009 07:52 AM

Re: Seems kind of slippery-slopey...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman (Post 108432)
i think thats a matter of opinion, no?
some people think it oversteps a boundary and have a problem with it. thats fine. i dont care that much, i'm just opining.


sure, I mean really we're just bullshitting. I just happen to disagree with you. For instance I think its quite possible to be scientific about this. Look at all the health problems associated with salt, then look at all the health problems associated with everything else that is going on in food and allocate your resources accordingly. Regardless of slippery slopes or irate libertarians, the salt crusade loses and loses big.

dubman 02-09-2009 12:21 PM

Re: Seems kind of slippery-slopey...
 
that's cool. i mean if it doesnt work out thats fine, just saying i dont mind that restaurants get in the hot seat to try harder.

i think that salt is the common denominator in restaurant/take out food that's much more saturated than it should be, and its widespread acceptance makes it more of a risk than other additives that may be more chemically harmful, but less omnipresent. sure it serves more as an exacerbator than a cause, but theres not many food items with an overdose of salt that doesnt also abuse caloric content in general. so on top of ingesting foods which might lead to congestive heart failure, salt multiplies that risk along with high blood pressure and stroke.

i'm not coming at this from the perspective of 'people needing to be saved from themselves', i'm coming at with the 'hell yes make restaurants try a little harder to make something that tastes and is a little more decent for you' take

Sean 02-10-2009 12:03 PM

Re: Seems kind of slippery-slopey...
 
All I know is that from time to time, I want the freedom to go on a self-destructive rampage by eating one of these items. I'm especially drawn to the "The Double Bacon Hamburger Fatty Melt"...

Deckard 02-10-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Seems kind of slippery-slopey...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 108499)
http://thisiswhyyourefat.com

Hmmm, I wonder which country that website's aimed at?

Deckard 02-10-2009 12:52 PM

Re: Seems kind of slippery-slopey...
 
"Turbaconucken: A chicken inside a duck inside a turkey, all wrapped in bacon."

I bet they serve fries with that too. Christ.... :D

myrrh 02-10-2009 01:10 PM

Re: Seems kind of slippery-slopey...
 
I never understood why things that aren't meant to be deep-fried are. Like, candy bars.


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