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jose m 05-28-2010 04:04 AM

Re: diamond jigsaw live?
 
oakey is a legend.
he was instrumental in the development of modern dance music and the house nation we all live in.
thru the late 80's he was one of the most influencial dj's in the world (while most of america thought dance music was for gays, blacks and europeans),he started spectrum (which he should be knighted for) and produced records and bands which helped to shape dance/rave/house culture.
thru the 90's like him or loath him he was a main player.
i don't like loads of the stuff that he does these days but he isn't the "knob" some people portray him as.

bazwint 05-28-2010 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jose m (Post 122421)
oakey is a legend.

Gotta agree with that.

BrotherLovesDub 05-28-2010 09:20 AM

Re: diamond jigsaw live?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jose m (Post 122421)
oakey is a legend.
he was instrumental in the development of modern dance music and the house nation we all live in.
thru the late 80's he was one of the most influencial dj's in the world (while most of america thought dance music was for gays, blacks and europeans),he started spectrum (which he should be knighted for) and produced records and bands which helped to shape dance/rave/house culture.
thru the 90's like him or loath him he was a main player.
i don't like loads of the stuff that he does these days but he isn't the "knob" some people portray him as.

Yes, I'm fully aware of Oakey's legendary status and the hand he had in the acid house movement. Respect to him for that. I didn't see him in 88 or 90, I saw him in 2007 and he was fucking awful. Jesus poses behind his cdj's. The same exact set every night. Was he doing that at Spectrum? Underworld keep evolving. Oakenfold is happy to coast on his legendary status.

joethelion 05-28-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by darktrain (Post 122402)
Twas me and my friend Jason, who asked "is she the DJ?" :p

Oh yea! I forgot that he thought Oakenfold was a woman.

It was also sort of funny b/c the girl I was with thought I was just being a "music snob" about Oakenfold. She didn't know his music - but knew that I can sometimes be a bit ... opinionated when it comes to music

...about halfway through Oakie's set - she was like "damn - we should've brought video games too - well, at least we have more wine!"


and yea - Oakenfold did do a lot of great things in the late 80's/early 90's... but he traded back in all his talent & credibility by about '98/'99

BrotherLovesDub 05-28-2010 11:24 AM

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Also, Oakey used only 2 cds each night I saw him. I watched him like a hawk and he never removed a disc from either cdj. Maybe it was premixed, maybe he just preplanned the set and burned every other track to each disc. The point is, this 'legend' did the bare minimum to collect his fee, yet posed like he was Jesus behind the decks. OH! He also did the hilarious pelvic thrusts as if he were fucking the mixer. If I had a time machine i'd love to go back and catch a set at Spectrum or Shoom but what he did on the 07 dates has completely destroyed any interest I had remaining in his work.

crank 05-28-2010 11:33 AM

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saw him in 99 or 2000... talk about an amazing set... i think what did him in: he grew his hair long... ;)

let's not forget the fact that he produced numerous records, not the least of which: Happy Mondays, Pills -n- Thrills (too bad i didn't read the whole thread before posting this...)

what about the first Northern Exposure releases and Perfecto, the first one that's blue and yello?

jose m 05-29-2010 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 122433)
Yes, I'm fully aware of Oakey's legendary status and the hand he had in the acid house movement. Respect to him for that. I didn't see him in 88 or 90, I saw him in 2007 and he was fucking awful. Jesus poses behind his cdj's. The same exact set every night. Was he doing that at Spectrum? Underworld keep evolving. Oakenfold is happy to coast on his legendary status.

most artists have a "golden" period don't they?
very few keep productive at a high standard for a long time.
i know plenty of people that say underworld have been getting worse every year since "born slippy".
anyway... personally, i like to think about best of times not the worst and oakey has been responsible for or involved in some great stuff.
i think if oakey enjoys what he's doing then he's earned the right to do it for however long he likes.
there plenty of people in dance music to dislike more than paul eh?

end of the defence of oakey :)

chems1919 05-29-2010 09:06 AM

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Well said Jose. I don't agree with what Oakey has been doing for past 10 years or so, but it's hard not to admit the man was pretty incredible in his prime. And I agree that there are a handful of people that think UW have been declining, but it's like that for every band/group/dj. As bands progress and expand, they lose fans and gain fans in the process. When it comes to Oakey, I'll never forget his essential mixes from the 90's when he'd play clips from Blade Runner and then throw in a solid "Man with No Name" track.

stimpee 05-30-2010 07:23 AM

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Oakenfold plays cheesy rubbish these days. But yes his contribution to dance culture will not be forgotten.

I seriously hope that Armin van Boring isnt gonna rape any Underworld tunes. One to ignore. Underworld have had a good track record of choosing up and coming remixers for their songs and choosing something so mainstream shows lack of imagination. Voted #1 DJ in DJ Magazine isnt worth shit. This isnt a popularity contest. Underworlds reputation will be damaged by releasing cheesy remixes.

Maybe this is the audience Underworld are looking for?

</rant>

mmmm... what the hell was this thread about again? Diamond Jigsaw? :D

jose m 05-30-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 122485)
I seriously hope that Armin van Boring isnt gonna rape any Underworld tunes. One to ignore. Underworld have had a good track record of choosing up and coming remixers for their songs and choosing something so mainstream shows lack of imagination. Voted #1 DJ in DJ Magazine isnt worth shit. This isnt a popularity contest. Underworlds reputation will be damaged by releasing cheesy remixes.

IF ALL IT TOOK TO DAMAGE A REP WAS ONE CHEESY REMIX UNDERWORLD WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER YEARS AGO.:)

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Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 122485)
Maybe this is the audience Underworld are looking for?

LOOKS BETTER THAN THE ROW OF BALD HEADS AT THE FRONT OF THE ROUNDHOUSE A FEW YEARS AGO ;)


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