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Dunwho 09-17-2009 08:33 AM

Re: NME article: 3 LPs worth o' material - but how?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThingInABook (Post 116056)
well, karl couldn't said it better:

"Yeah, we tell you about the writing of new material & sometimes the process spans a long time, but when you spend most of your time jumping through skyholes to carry the groove in person & sweat to the joyous peoples of the planet you don't get anything like the time you need to finish what you started. I could articulate an even greater complaint but we got a grin & groove to chase & one foot to lay down infront of another. Let's get sweaty honey..."

perhaps they're more interested in the live aspect of things. getting all that energy in a plastic disc can get difficult.

amen to that

negative1 09-17-2009 08:51 AM

Re: NME article: 3 LPs worth o' material - but how?
 
i think their live shows have really picked up as of late..

the last few years i've seen them, they're really trying a lot
harder to differentiate from the earlier fixed 'setlist' years,
where they played mostly the same songs, but rearranged the order.

i know most people don't get the chance to see them that often,
and rely on the web stuff, and releases to track them..

so i see where the disconnect can come from..

yeah, it's frustrating having heard some potentially great material in
the past... but what about the other unreleased stuff from earlier
era's that we haven't heard?

imagine hearing other things from the 'second toughest in the infants' years,
that we could have only imagined? ... and remember those 3 unreleased tracks
that we heard from the 'dubnobasswithmyheadman' DAT .....

we really are spoiled in hearing so many new things, and as much as we'd
like to see them released or given proper attention.. it is underworlds music,
and not ours right?

if we get discouraged, maybe we need to take a step back, and let things
develop over time, and then check on them..

i used to be on this board every day for a few years, but i've moved onto
other things... work/personal life/other hobbies ... and when i do check
back, its cool to see all the things that are developing or occuring...

i credit underworld for 'getting the balance right', or at least trying to..

be seeing you
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dubman 09-17-2009 07:57 PM

Re: NME article: 3 LPs worth o' material - but how?
 
i really think it comes down to interacting with us much more than a usual band does, and balancing the danger that comes with that. for at least a decade now we;ve seen what happens when actors and musicians remove the veil and let people see things in real time or unfiltered by publicists. in our case we've been fairly fortunate (despite my reservations) whereas people like moby come off as the facebook friend you never wanted and makes 3 "causes" requests a week.
as fans we are finally getting that direct connection to what we love, but it's new territory for both parties, and it's a bit more volatile than it seems. we see sketches that the artist(s) may or may not take off with, but we'd come to see them as something special or even essential, and it quickly gets taken out of the hands of those creating it all.

i dont know how to negotiate that. its weird. its exciting but it can be frustrating in the 'boy who cried wolf' way, then it swings back into feeling rather bad for being this entitled, then swings back to the reality of all the things that'll never be. -1's point about unknown STITI tracks was perfect. how would it all play out if we were allowed to look in then?

this is all just a roundabout way of asking what happened to the book of white, btw :(

joethelion 09-18-2009 08:11 AM

Re: NME article: 3 LPs worth o' material - but how?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThingInABook (Post 116056)

perhaps they're more interested in the live aspect of things. getting all that energy in a plastic disc can get difficult.

but what about the US fans (like me) who just want to be able to even DOWNLOAD an mp3 that's over 128kbps? I don't really care about having something on vinyl or cd...

like - what's this track? I suspect it's that Diamond Jigsaw track... or is it that other one that I've read mentions of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qepixZREow

obviously, it exists as a recorded entity. Karl doesn't appear to be singing live, they don't seem to be actively playing it... so it must exist "as a hard copy" (in that it isn't being created live) and it's from their DJ set

negative1 09-18-2009 08:37 AM

Re: NME article: 3 LPs worth o' material - but how?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joethelion (Post 116093)
but what about the US fans (like me) who just want to be able to even DOWNLOAD an mp3 that's over 128kbps? I don't really care about having something on vinyl or cd...

like - what's this track? I suspect it's that Diamond Jigsaw track... or is it that other one that I've read mentions of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qepixZREow

obviously, it exists as a recorded entity. Karl doesn't appear to be singing live, they don't seem to be actively playing it... so it must exist "as a hard copy" (in that it isn't being created live) and it's from their DJ set

patience grasshopper!

only time will tell!

etc etc etc..

be seeing you
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crank 09-18-2009 08:38 AM

Re: NME article: 3 LPs worth o' material - but how?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman (Post 116078)
this is all just a roundabout way of asking what happened to the book of white, btw :(

???

dubman 09-18-2009 11:04 AM

Re: NME article: 3 LPs worth o' material - but how?
 
there were about three other jam books planned.
one of them was the book of white and i was kinda excited for it.

TheBang 09-18-2009 11:21 AM

Re: NME article: 3 LPs worth o' material - but how?
 
More than three others. They were listed in the back of the 2007 tour book, and also at the back of BoJ 1 and 2, IIRC. Stuff like Book of White, Book of Nature, Book of Words, off the top of my head.

ThingInABook 09-18-2009 06:39 PM

Re: NME article: 3 LPs worth o' material - but how?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joethelion (Post 116093)
but what about the US fans (like me) who just want to be able to even DOWNLOAD an mp3 that's over 128kbps? I don't really care about having something on vinyl or cd...

like - what's this track? I suspect it's that Diamond Jigsaw track... or is it that other one that I've read mentions of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qepixZREow

obviously, it exists as a recorded entity. Karl doesn't appear to be singing live, they don't seem to be actively playing it... so it must exist "as a hard copy" (in that it isn't being created live) and it's from their DJ set

hello, i live in chile. pretty far away from the action.

i also would love to hear and actually having those 'new' tracks in any format - having them as bootlegs or rips, even if they manage to get me all hyped up, don't make the cut for me. but some things in life need time to mature to be something worthy. besides that, having a physical format gets more out of the performance, the sound quality is better and listening something in huge speakers is always a great experience..

i've been a fan for quite some time and, and until '99, i had only a couple CDs and that was all. i'm still regretting not visiting uwlive for some time and it's quite hard to find all the tracks, esp. the old stuff. i still have the hope of finding those tracks. but for the time, i can wait :) besides, what's going on with the shop? i think they can put up some tracks on it.


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