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ultradave 09-21-2011 10:26 AM

Re: collectors' corner
 
Underworld – Rez / Why, Why, Why - The Salmon Pink. Not the Shocking Pink.

http://www.discogs.com/Underworld-Re...elease/1254617

Does anyone know how many of these promos' were produced? Discogs says that the Salmon Pink was the first release, but the Shocking Pink was a commercial bootleg, BUT on the description for the Salmon Pink - it says that many bootlegs exist. How can you tell which ones are bootlegs?

TheBang 09-21-2011 04:01 PM

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Matt explains this on his bootleg page (in the Pressing Vinyl section):

http://www.bigscreensatellite.com/bootleg.htm

Basically, it's difficult to mix the exact shade of pink used on the original pressing. So, if the pink doesn't match (i.e. it's "Shocking" pink), then it's a bootleg.

ultradave 09-21-2011 05:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 151676)
Matt explains this on his bootleg page...
Basically, it's difficult to mix the exact shade of pink used on the original pressing.

Bangtastic! Thanks for posting the link. I had a feeling BSS had that info somewhere. I purchased a copy of the Pale Pink vinyl and I'm anticipating it's arrival. I'll check it against Matt's page and post my results. Paid $25US for it. NM cover / NM- vinyl. :cool:

TheBang 09-21-2011 05:28 PM

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wow, nice find, if legit.

big screen satellite 09-26-2011 04:51 AM

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i've seen at least 6 legit copies and they are all the same colour pale / salmon pink, if its not pale pink / salmon - so any other variant of pink, i'd suggest its a boot. you'll know...

ultradave 10-03-2011 12:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite (Post 151706)
i've seen at least 6 legit copies and they are all the same colour pale / salmon pink, if its not pale pink / salmon - so any other variant of pink, i'd suggest its a boot. you'll know...

According to your page this copy is legit, which makes me happy. :D

The colour is very cool. It's not completely solid. Thx for the info.

ThingInABook 10-03-2011 07:33 AM

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hey, underworld collectors, i need some help:

i bought mmm... skyscraper i love you 12" and i've some doubts about its authenticity, mainly because its sleeve is... well, flimsy. most underworld 12" come in cardboard sleeves and this one is made of paper. the vinyl has the etchings and everything.

other thing that seems odd are the labels: jamscraper's side has one name outside the label, i mean, it's like the label was too small to contain the name of the mix and it was cut out. is this a label mistake? i haven't seen any pictures of the labels of this release so i was really weirded out when i saw the labels on my record.

i've one pic, it's the sleeve (ignore the other record):

http://twitpic.com/6pvf11

BrotherLovesDub 10-03-2011 09:17 AM

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The Skyscraper sleeve is very flimsy. That looks legit.

stimpee 10-03-2011 09:22 AM

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Looks genuine to me. The Skyscraper single had no spine and was very flimsy.

ThingInABook 10-03-2011 11:43 AM

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thanks :) i was pretty worried about getting a bootleg, after reading some of the seller's history on ebay. this release is quite old so i guess they're experimenting with the packaging (?)

big screen satellite 10-05-2011 12:20 PM

Re: collectors' corner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThingInABook (Post 151763)
hey, underworld collectors, i need some help:

i bought mmm... skyscraper i love you 12" and i've some doubts about its authenticity, mainly because its sleeve is... well, flimsy. most underworld 12" come in cardboard sleeves and this one is made of paper. the vinyl has the etchings and everything.

other thing that seems odd are the labels: jamscraper's side has one name outside the label, i mean, it's like the label was too small to contain the name of the mix and it was cut out. is this a label mistake? i haven't seen any pictures of the labels of this release so i was really weirded out when i saw the labels on my record.

i've one pic, it's the sleeve (ignore the other record):

http://twitpic.com/6pvf11

actually, i'm interested in the FLK - whats that all about is it KLF covers, if so where can i grab the tracks - not seen that before ;)

negative1 10-05-2011 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ThingInABook (Post 151768)
thanks :) i was pretty worried about getting a bootleg, after reading some of the seller's history on ebay. this release is quite old so i guess they're experimenting with the packaging (?)

dont forget, you can always
use discogs as a reference:
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http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=98208

later
-1

joethelion 10-05-2011 03:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite (Post 151779)
actually, i'm interested in the FLK - whats that all about is it KLF covers, if so where can i grab the tracks - not seen that before ;)


A while ago - I was trying to track down a download of the Kalevala singles but - for the life of me, I couldn't remember what the name of the "label" was - I ended up going onto http://www.klf.de/

and saw this 'news entry' or whatever you'd call it about "the FLK"

I don't think that they're really a "covers band" necessarily, but they seem to do a lot of stuff that references the KLF (and more than just the name)

although - I was never a really HUGE fan of the KLF... so... they could be just a 'covers band' (or even Bill & Jimmy for all I know - but I DOUBT that)

oh wait... they have a website too ->
http://theflk.com/

[edit]
oh btw - I did end up finding those Kalevala singles. I had them (as mp3's) before, but my external hd was ruined, and I lost them. If you haven't heard the Kalevala material... it's "ok" - but there are definitely 2 or 3 really nice tracks

ThingInABook 10-06-2011 06:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite (Post 151779)
actually, i'm interested in the FLK - whats that all about is it KLF covers, if so where can i grab the tracks - not seen that before ;)

it's like the chill out album, with some random folk sampling on top. i did like brackens (wonky mix) from FLK's soundcloud, which is a separate track. Brackens in the album plays as a part of a whole.

i believe that record has nothing to do with the KLF, there are no credits besides some 'thank you' notes and it mentions it's the first release of many to come.

anyone interested in more pics (or rips)? i can post them somewhere else.

//\/\/ 10-11-2011 12:15 PM

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vinyl oddity - rez & u2 'lemon' from israel

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dance-Trai...item4cfab9ab22

big screen satellite 10-11-2011 12:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ThingInABook (Post 151790)
it's like the chill out album, with some random folk sampling on top. i did like brackens (wonky mix) from FLK's soundcloud, which is a separate track. Brackens in the album plays as a part of a whole.

i believe that record has nothing to do with the KLF, there are no credits besides some 'thank you' notes and it mentions it's the first release of many to come.

anyone interested in more pics (or rips)? i can post them somewhere else.

yeah thanks for the info thats great, i was grabbing loads of KLF related stuff a while back but it all fell off, i might have these, i need to check my HD, but if you can rip and upload them let me know and i'll definitly grab them as it might be that I don't have them yet.

cheers

undarrenworld 11-20-2011 12:36 PM

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I finally managed to buy Mother Earth/The Hump at discogs.
Do you think that price 84.99 Uk Pounds was ok, in 2011?
Who else have a copy?

ndrwrld 11-20-2011 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by //\/\/ (Post 151828)
vinyl oddity - rez & u2 'lemon' from israel

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dance-Trai...item4cfab9ab22

i got this. for free.

dubnobasswithme 11-21-2011 08:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by undarrenworld (Post 152094)
I finally managed to buy Mother Earth/The Hump at discogs.
Do you think that price 84.99 Uk Pounds was ok, in 2011?
Who else have a copy?

I paid 50 UKP on htfr.com back in 2003, but I think that it's gone for much more than 85 UKP on ebay in the past few years. Hard to nail down a proper price, but if you can afford it and will enjoy the record, then it's all worth it, right?

Dirty0900 11-22-2011 02:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by undarrenworld (Post 152094)
I finally managed to buy Mother Earth/The Hump at discogs.
Do you think that price 84.99 Uk Pounds was ok, in 2011?
Who else have a copy?

I *think* I paid £50/60 for mine which I thought was an acceptable price for a record of its rarity and history with UW. Personally, I think its a bit high, but if you can afford it and want it, then bloody well snap it up.

undarrenworld 11-24-2011 01:55 AM

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Thank you both for your support and for the courage you gave me, I appreciate that.
Yes its expensive, but this vinyl Mother Earth is worth it I think...
I bought the vinyl.;)

negative1 12-04-2011 01:53 PM

Re: collectors' corner - mother earth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by undarrenworld (Post 152131)
Thank you both for your support and for the courage you gave me, I appreciate that.
Yes its expensive, but this vinyl Mother Earth is worth it I think...
I bought the vinyl.;)

good thing too...

yikes, here it is on ebay for US$500!
and the guy got it from karl
===========================
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Underworld-M...c#ht_500wt_939

later
-1

BrotherLovesDub 12-07-2011 05:03 PM

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Just got AHDO on vinyl for $7 - brand new!

anybody want to sell Dubno LP?

industri_studios 12-07-2011 08:31 PM

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Not bad - your post got me to checking, and AHDO isn't TOO bad on vinyl... think I'll grab a copy... lucked into DubNoBass and Beaucoup Fish for REALLY reasonable prices over the last few years, but somehow haven't snagged anything else. Weird. Need to grab some more on vinyl.

froopy seal 12-08-2011 08:04 AM

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"No, honey, of course I'm not starting to collect vinyl. I mean, that'd be ridiculous, me not even having a record player and all."
Girlfriend leaving room, frowning disbelievingly.
*me thinking* "Grabbing only the ones with beautiful artwork isn't really 'collecting', now, is it?"

ultradave 12-08-2011 11:08 AM

Re: collectors' corner - mother earth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 152246)
the guy got it from karl
===========================
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Underworld-M...c#ht_500wt_939

later
-1

How could anyone part with a gift from Karl....? I do believe $500 is a bit steep... I still would like to own a copy of this, but for now I'll just settle for my 160kbps mp3's...

Dirty0900 12-09-2011 07:21 AM

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I imagine the value of stuff may increase due to Olympic involvement,

negative1 12-09-2011 12:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty0900 (Post 152343)
I imagine the value of stuff may increase due to Olympic involvement,

why?

not unless its olympic related.
i wouldn't expect danny boyles
stuff to go up in value either.

if it was rare before, it will still
be rare afterwards. unless its
re-released material.

later
-1

stimpee 12-10-2011 11:51 AM

Re: collectors' corner - mother earth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 152246)
good thing too...

yikes, here it is on ebay for US$500!
and the guy got it from karl
===========================
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Underworld-M...c#ht_500wt_939

later
-1

Looks like common sense prevailed. It didnt sell.

Techno_Bunny 12-11-2011 04:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 152302)
Just got AHDO on vinyl for $7 - brand new!

anybody want to sell Dubno LP?

There has been a re-release of Dubno i think, remastered?

//\/\/ 12-21-2011 05:46 AM

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vinyl Dubno's on ebay for pretty cheap - but there's also some dingbat trying to flog his Spikee cd for 19 smackers - good luck with that one...

undarrenworld 01-11-2012 09:28 AM

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I just want to share my joy, that I bought here Pearls Girl EP (American version) on cd, for just 3 US Dollars...

Good Day Today;)

Those were the days... these EPs, they dont make them anymore...

Also I bought all on 12":

Dirty
Dirty (White label)
Spikee
Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You
Dark and Long part 1
Dark and Long part 2
Rez/Cowgirl

I collect 12" mainly, do you recommend Discogs? Or other site? Thanks

ultradave 01-11-2012 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by undarrenworld (Post 152601)
I collect 12" mainly, do you recommend Discogs? Or other site? Thanks

I would say Discogs, Amazon, and eBay are your best and safest places of finding rare vinyl. I've purchased most of rare UW stuff from these sources without any issues. Feedback rating is key.

TheBang 01-12-2012 01:20 AM

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I've also gotten some good UW vinyl from www.gemm.com. Just read the descriptions, seller terms, and ratings carefully.

Speaking of vinyl, can anyone who purchased the UK version of Barking please PM me the runout etchings on each side, or post them to the Discogs entry here:

http://www.discogs.com/Underworld-Ba...elease/2454695

Thanks.

undarrenworld 01-12-2012 09:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 152603)

Speaking of vinyl, can anyone who purchased the UK version of Barking please PM me the runout etchings on each side, or post them to the Discogs entry here:

http://www.discogs.com/Underworld-Ba...elease/2454695

Thanks.

I PM you already.
But I have the theory: Miles Showell made a lacquer cut in Metropolis mastering studio ( I think that he did also OWB cut), where he mastered it and put there his fanmous mark: M
I assume, that he printed runout etching what we know from US version on 180gram vinyl as its on discogs and I confirm this its on my vinyl too. But I assume that both versions were made from the same lacquer cut by Miles, so Runout etching will be the same. What do you think of my theory? I did a little research, look at my vinyl, at discogs also and this is my theory.

Ps. And thank you both for the sites: ebay, discogs, gemm and amazon. I didnt use gemm to this day, I should try it.

TheBang 01-14-2012 04:00 AM

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Thanks for the info, undarrenworld. I've sorted it on Discogs now. The person who entered the "US" vinyl actually had a UK one. I've added your runout etchings to the original UK release entry, and converted the fake US entry into a real US entry. The Om Records release for the US has different runout etchings and different labels with an Om catalog number, but reuses the same cover as the UK release.

//\/\/ 01-14-2012 09:08 AM

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Crikey - somebody's got 'Rez/Why Why Why' on Gemm for $120... Seems pretty hefty?


(Edit - just noticed it's been there for over 2 years...)

undarrenworld 01-14-2012 12:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 152610)
Thanks for the info, undarrenworld. I've sorted it on Discogs now. The person who entered the "US" vinyl actually had a UK one. I've added your runout etchings to the original UK release entry, and converted the fake US entry into a real US entry. The Om Records release for the US has different runout etchings and different labels with an Om catalog number, but reuses the same cover as the UK release.

I see, thanks for making it clear:)

undarrenworld 01-14-2012 12:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by //\/\/ (Post 152611)
Crikey - somebody's got 'Rez/Why Why Why' on Gemm for $120... Seems pretty hefty?


(Edit - just noticed it's been there for over 2 years...)


Thats very strange!
Its far more than I spent on my most expensive vinyl by Underworld ...Mother Earth...

Most rare Underworld vinyl chart?

1 Mother Earth
2 Rowla / Deep Pan
3 Rez/Why Why Why

Do you agree, what would you add? Speaking on 12 vinyl?...

big screen satellite 01-16-2012 09:10 AM

Re: collectors' corner
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by undarrenworld (Post 152615)
Thats very strange!
Its far more than I spent on my most expensive vinyl by Underworld ...Mother Earth...

Most rare Underworld vinyl chart?

1 Mother Earth
2 Rowla / Deep Pan
3 Rez/Why Why Why

Do you agree, what would you add? Speaking on 12 vinyl?...

1. Confusion the Waitress (Remix) (Acetate)
2...
3...

;)


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