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dubman 04-20-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jose m (Post 94270)
that lynn collins sample has been in some classic tracks tho hasn't it?
rob base and dj ez rock "it takes two" "salsa house" richie rich and more recently "pussy hole" dizzie rascal. don't knock the sample,its a corner stone of dance music !

the sample itself is not what bugs me, it's that it saunters in without any reason at all and adds to the pile of not-so-classic tracks that just threw it in.

although dizzee *is* a recent example and thats a damn fine one too..

it still feels like it's a little too awful to be done with a straight face though, so even though the idea is slowly eroding in my head, a large part of all this yelling is convinced that this is (or needs to be plleeeeeze) one big joke.

joethelion 04-20-2008 12:51 PM

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you have to admit though...
there's definitely more response to these remixes than the BB ones.

and the RR remixes are definitely more different (amongst each other) than the BB ones

(honestly, you can't tell me... that good as they are - that the Beautiful Burnout mixes don't sound a lot alike)

dubman 04-20-2008 12:56 PM

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i stopped caring about remixes since AHDO, i havent bothered to listen to about 90% of them since. i'm not going to search out for consistently middling interpretations of underworld songs. thats not a fun time.
theres more response to this one because it's featured on the website (making it a lot easier to access) and because it's "different" in a completely awful way.

Jan 04-20-2008 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jose m (Post 94270)
that lynn collins sample has been in some classic tracks tho hasn't it?
rob base and dj ez rock "it takes two" "salsa house" richie rich and more recently "pussy hole" dizzie rascal. don't knock the sample,its a corner stone of dance music !

think break madness
listen to "Gentleman"...

negative1 04-20-2008 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by joethelion (Post 94276)
you have to admit though...
there's definitely more response to these remixes than the BB ones.

and the RR remixes are definitely more different (amongst each other) than the BB ones

(honestly, you can't tell me... that good as they are - that the Beautiful Burnout mixes don't sound a lot alike)

i'd hardly call 2 threads (1 about this mix) a lot more response,
to all the talk (look it up), about the different versions, videos,
promos, and remixes of beautiful burnout...

and no, they don't sound the same, unless you consider the
exclude the dub mixes...they're all very unique, including
the edits...the video mix, the 'what dog mix', etc..

later
-1

Dirty0900 04-20-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jan (Post 94278)
think break madness
listen to "Gentleman"...

Mr Snares is one of my favourite artists due to his amazing creative nature and rocks live. Sure UW played one of his classical meets breakcore tracks on an old radio show.

Sean 04-20-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jOHN rODRIGUEZ (Post 94212)
Everyone. Except Sean, he's just plugging himself. I always knew he was a cheap little tramp. :}

Plugging all the talented musicians 'round these parts actually. :) But I am a cheap little tramp when it comes to anyone letting me do a remix for them. Why not.....it's fun!

And as far as this Fake Blood mix goes, I dislike it because it's so exceedingly average and generic. Although "average" implies a higher level of quality than I hear in it. I'm fine with samples being used, old or new, as long as they're used in inventive and/or effective ways. This remix sounds like something that someone just sat down one afternoon and banged out for kicks, but put no real thought into. And to be totally fair, it sounds to me as if it was done by someone who's capable of much better, but who instead took a bunch of cheesy shortcuts and diced up vocals, slapped them together and called it a mix.

It reminds me of when I'm working on a track and am having trouble thinking of something good to do next with it, so I find some pre-made loop and drop it in as a cheap way out.....and inevitably, when I play it for my wife, she'll pinpoint that exact loop and say "that doesn't sound as good as what you usually do".

Yes it's subjective, but Underworld has always maintained a certain level of inventiveness and originality, and this remix displays neither. It sounds like something that should go on one of those "club hits 2008" type of CD compilations that are jam-packed with mediocre, soulless, filler music.

kagenaki koe 04-20-2008 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 94283)
And to be totally fair, it sounds to me as if it was done by someone who's capable of much better, but who instead took a bunch of cheesy shortcuts and diced up vocals, slapped them together and called it a mix.

Fake Blood does have better remixes while still having almost the exact same elements that people are calling cheap and derivative. actually the first remix of his that i've heard was the remix of Bonde De Role's Marina Gasolina, which actually retains a bit more elements of the original track in a way. both Fake Blood and Bonde De Role play more of a Bailefunk style (certainly not close to UW remixes) with Bonde De Role being signed to Diplo's label (and Fake Blood having a few more remixes of other artists on that label).

in some ways Fake Blood is remixing a "song" that's quite different than what he normally remixes. Ring Road is certainly a lot more laid back song. and Underworld gets a remix that is certainly a change from whatever it was they've been known for.

pafufta816 04-20-2008 08:09 PM

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i thought it was fun, obviously not my favorite, but at least it wasnt another minimal/tech house remix : P

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 04-20-2008 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pafufta816 (Post 94288)
i thought it was fun, obviously not my favorite, but at least it wasnt another minimal/tech house remix : P

Thank you.

But I have to argue that it is a bit minimal.

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 04-21-2008 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 94283)
Plugging all But I am a cheap little tramp when it comes to anyone letting me do a remix for them. Why not.....it's fun!

Well, with the recession and all, you know, even ladies of the night are upping prices so you can too. You're worth it & will always be one of my fav. h.

chems1919 04-21-2008 09:07 AM

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I enjoyed it. It's definitely a lot better than Laidback Luke's take on it.

DwarfeD 04-21-2008 04:35 PM

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To be honest I enjoyed both of 'em. Maybe it's just my eclectic mind, but both of 'em just sound cool enough to listen to more then just once...

joethelion 04-21-2008 05:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 94279)
i'd hardly call 2 threads (1 about this mix) a lot more response,
to all the talk (look it up), about the different versions, videos,
promos, and remixes of beautiful burnout...

and no, they don't sound the same, unless you consider the
exclude the dub mixes...they're all very unique, including
the edits...the video mix, the 'what dog mix', etc..

later
-1


sure, there were a lot of posts about the different FORMATS, but as far as the remixes in of themselves... not so much

and yes, they (the remixes of BB by other artists) do sound alike... aaaand they're all in the same style of music as well (tech/minimal whatever)

[edit]
and I'm not saying that minimal, Pig & Dan, Tiefschwarz, nor even Mark Knight as "bad" per se
I actually really really dig Pig & Dan

but...at the same time, it's nice to have something DIFFERENT

even all the Crocodile mixes were pretty much just straight tech / minimal stuff (although, it was nice that each of them were very different amongst themselves... like I couldn't imagine someone confusing the Oliver Hunteman mix with say... the Innervisions Orchestra Mix - which, in my opinion you couldn't say about the BB remixes)

pafufta816 04-21-2008 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jOHN rODRIGUEZ (Post 94293)
Thank you.

But I have to argue that it is a bit minimal.

i can't deny that i love the pig and dan UW remixes. heh, it's almost a fetish though, ten years ago i would have relished being into house at all. it wasn't cool back then....

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 04-22-2008 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pafufta816 (Post 94355)
i can't deny that i love the pig and dan UW remixes. heh, it's almost a fetish though, ten years ago i would have relished being into house at all. it wasn't cool back then....


Try about 22(damn, just got worse) years from what I remember as house. Wait? Are you doing the exposing on how old I am thing? j/k

froopy seal 04-22-2008 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vectorman0 (Post 94202)
Oh yeah, I forgot about one thing that annoyed me about the Fake Blood remix. I really dislike that high pitched "ahhhh, yeah!" or is it "whooo, yeah!" sample; it is not fit for any Underworld song.

This reminds me of a Darren Emerson set which was linked on here with that Italian "MC" shouting stupid things all over the place. "Underwooorld! Underwooooooooorld!!!" Similar to a video of some horrible accident/disaster: It gives you physical pain from watching it but you just can't turn it off...

Flywaver 04-24-2008 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vectorman0 (Post 94245)
To clarify my previous statement, I don't mind sampling. There is just something about this particular sound that annoys me as I have heard it way too many times and I guess I expect better from and Underworld song. Maybe it's because I associate this particular sample with generic electronic music, and consider Underworld to be better than that.

Ditto and oh my god it reminds me of some Stock Aitken Waterman production for Timmy Mallet! :eek:

Now i have that Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Pooka Dot Bikini going in my head lol :eek::o

nosajmunson 04-24-2008 11:19 AM

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Anyone remeber The Sifl & Olly show that was on MTV in the late 90s?
It was a variety show hosted by two sock puppets. Every episode, they'd sing a new song.
One of their songs was 'Fake Blood, you rock me like the real thing'.

Yeah. I think I like the sock puppets "fake blood" a whole lot better than this Fake Blood Ring Road. Ring Road is good as is.

There's my 2 Cents on this remix. Can I get my change back please.

BrotherLovesDub 04-24-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by froopy seal (Post 94362)
This reminds me of a Darren Emerson set which was linked on here with that Italian "MC" shouting stupid things all over the place

i'm sure you meant Darren Price.

the more i hear the Fake Blood mix, the more i like it. this would work very well on a dancefloor filled with indie-hipsters who like Simian Mobile Disco + Justice + Switch shit. sadly, that's the same crowd i'd like to gun down with an automatic weapon or explosives strapped to my chest.

not a bad mix though. i'm diggin it.

stimpee 04-24-2008 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by froopy seal (Post 94362)
This reminds me of a Darren Emerson set which was linked on here with that Italian "MC" shouting stupid things all over the place. "Underwooorld! Underwooooooooorld!!!" S

Hey, that Pricey set is pure class. and that MC is so bad he's good. which is more than I can say for this mix.

big screen satellite 04-24-2008 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 94611)
i'm sure you meant Darren Price.

the more i hear the Fake Blood mix, the more i like it. this would work very well on a dancefloor filled with indie-hipsters who like Simian Mobile Disco + Justice + Switch shit. sadly, that's the same crowd i'd like to gun down with an automatic weapon or explosives strapped to my chest.

not a bad mix though. i'm diggin it.

it gets at you in the end....

i'm sure the 'looking for 'e' sample helps....

Futuregrapher 04-24-2008 05:09 PM

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I listened to this mix today.

Crap. Crap. Crap.

Fakeblood.never.again.

undarrenworld 04-26-2008 02:35 PM

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After awesome series of great remixes including Heller on Peggy Sussed and Huntemann on Crocodile, the Fake Blood is not one of them...

...but still funny.

But again, its impossible to remix Ring Road... That song is incredible on its own...

froopy seal 04-26-2008 05:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 94611)
i'm sure you meant Darren Price.

Oops! All those Darrenses... :o

froopy seal 04-26-2008 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 94613)
Hey, that Pricey set is pure class. and that MC is so bad he's good. which is more than I can say for this mix.

Agree, dissent, agree. That MC makes me wanna dig my fingernails deep into my arm. MAXIMUM CRINGE FACTOR!

galama 04-26-2008 10:49 PM

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,

hm

it starts out pretty interesting with the chopped up vocals but it goes downhill from there. Production wise it isn't bad, clean samples, propa EQ...but the arrangement leads to one big load of nothingness. It starts housey and turns into garage. No clear direction. Keep on working though...O, Fakebloody one.

silic0n 04-28-2008 01:39 PM

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I don't know what you guys are on about. As a hardcore fan (just incase you assume I'm a Nuxx-ist) I love this remix. Laidback Luke's was a pile of toss but this Fake Blood one is terrific! So inventive and fun. And criticising the use of anything as 'over done' is absurd. If anything, putting sounds together to make music is 'over done', isn't it? But no one complains about that. It's down to personal taste, and I'm just trying to show my appreciation for a remix I'm enjoying a lot. So very phat. And I like how the bass line isn't always the same melodically. Very cool. KNOCK EM OUT

Now... someone mentioned there was a Pig & Dan remix #3? THREE!???! I NEED THIS how was it distributed? I've got 1 & 2...

BrotherLovesDub 04-28-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by galama (Post 94780)
It starts housey and turns into garage..

i'm interested in hearing you explain this statement.

pafufta816 04-28-2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by silic0n (Post 94896)
I don't know what you guys are on about. As a hardcore fan (just incase you assume I'm a Nuxx-ist) I love this remix. Laidback Luke's was a pile of toss but this Fake Blood one is terrific! So inventive and fun. And criticising the use of anything as 'over done' is absurd. If anything, putting sounds together to make music is 'over done', isn't it? But no one complains about that. It's down to personal taste, and I'm just trying to show my appreciation for a remix I'm enjoying a lot. So very phat. And I like how the bass line isn't always the same melodically. Very cool. KNOCK EM OUT

Now... someone mentioned there was a Pig & Dan remix #3? THREE!???! I NEED THIS how was it distributed? I've got 1 & 2...

the 3rd remix is the best one!

silic0n 04-28-2008 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pafufta816 (Post 94906)
the 3rd remix is the best one!

arg don't tell me that! Is this some kind of joke? Was the original reference to it a typo?? ARE YOU HAVING ME ON? Or is it REAL? SEND IT TO ME! I need things. Specifically THAT

negative1 04-28-2008 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 94903)
i'm interested in hearing you explain this statement.


just maybe they meant 'started out housey , and then turned
into garbage'...

makes sense to me..

later
-1

negative1 04-28-2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by silic0n (Post 94914)
arg don't tell me that! Is this some kind of joke? Was the original reference to it a typo?? ARE YOU HAVING ME ON? Or is it REAL? SEND IT TO ME! I need things. Specifically THAT

check out the digital music store on underworldlive.com

later
-1

TheBang 04-28-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by silic0n (Post 94914)
arg don't tell me that! Is this some kind of joke? Was the original reference to it a typo?? ARE YOU HAVING ME ON? Or is it REAL? SEND IT TO ME! I need things. Specifically THAT

It was on the original Play Pig vinyl release. And, as -1 mentioned, on underworldlive.com store now, and also on 7digital.com

galama 04-28-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub (Post 94903)
i'm interested in hearing you explain this statement.

The beginning of the track awfully reminds me of post Chicago, organic, orthodox house, i guess pre 98 when prog started becoming popular.
What makes it sound like garage is the bass sample and the way it's arranged. There is not much dynamic in the track, it all relies on the bass and how it morphs near the end by getting some resonance. Thus, to me it sounds like garage.

big screen satellite 05-01-2008 08:36 AM

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what fake blood has done here is no more or less than what orbital did with sampling belinda carlisle and bon jovi and other stuff live... it was a fun thing they chucked into their set, and yes it did get tiresome, especially as it became completely a car crash of music... this mix reminds me of that

take it for what it is... i say

(and i'm the law round here...) :p

Flywaver 05-01-2008 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by big screen satellite (Post 95203)
what fake blood has done here is no more or less than what orbital did with sampling belinda carlisle and bon jovi and other stuff live... it was a fun thing they chucked into their set, and yes it did get tiresome, especially as it became completely a car crash of music... this mix reminds me of that

take it for what it is... i say

(and i'm the law round here...) :p


I can see your point BSS and i think Orbital even added The Darkness in for good measure too. Halcyon was very popular live for this reason.
But...... Its just the style of music on the Fake Blood remix that is really well winding a fair few up the wrong (ring) road! :D

joethelion 05-01-2008 01:00 PM

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I just wanna know when I can get a proper copy of the track!!!!

negative1 05-01-2008 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by joethelion (Post 95230)
I just wanna know when I can get a proper copy of the track!!!!

for the sake of humanity...hopefully NEVER!!!!

later
-1

Spooky Shoes 05-28-2008 11:51 AM

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I listened to it for the first time on Sunday, I don't hate it, I don't love it either, I haven't listened to it enough to fully make up my mind yet but I'm in no rush, it's on my MP3 player waiting for a sunny day... I do intend to listen to it more than once which is more attention than some of the other remixes in recent years have gotten. Either way it isn't going to be my favourite Ring Road remix as on first listen I prefer the Autokratz and Kris Menace remixes, for me anyway these are the best two UW Remixes I have heard for a long time, as I like Ring Road anyway feel free to view my taste with suspicion.

^_^


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