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big screen satellite 10-10-2007 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Flywaver
How about a DVD. Everything,Everything is quite old now and i looked for it Everywhere,Everywhere in the house and still can't find it. Anyway will there be a DVD of the current tour?

i have a couple of versions of it available to buy ;)

negative1 10-10-2007 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Flywaver
How about a DVD. Everything,Everything is quite old now and i looked for it Everywhere,Everywhere in the house and still can't find it. Anyway will there be a DVD of the current tour?

there are plenty of cheap new/used copies on ebay and amazon us/uk.

later
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joethelion 10-10-2007 09:36 AM

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you know... I REALLY doubt that we're going to get another dvd

at least - as a stand-alone dvd for this current tour. I mean, just b/c we've seen them record the shows, doesn't mean that there's something planned.

Come to think of it... at an UW show - when haven't you seen one or two people near/on stage video-taping?

I'd almost wage that you're more likely to see either an updated "Footwear Repairs..." or something that's a cross between "Footwear Repairs" and the Prodigy's "Their Law" dvd

but yea - I'm definitely going to get like... one or two shows for sure, then - depending on the tracklistings, get whatever I'm 'missing'

(edit)
oh and btw - there is a dvd i've seen on some random torrent sites of a sizeable portion of a show (if not a whole show, I forget) from that "Riverrun Tour" (or whatever you want to call it) - it was professionally shot for tv. So no cool features or bonuses, but at least you get a live concert. - before anyone PM's me... I'm sorry, but I really don't have the time right now to start burning dvd's

spacejunk 10-10-2007 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by joethelion

(edit)
oh and btw - there is a dvd i've seen on some random torrent sites of a sizeable portion of a show (if not a whole show, I forget) from that "Riverrun Tour" (or whatever you want to call it) - it was professionally shot for tv. So no cool features or bonuses, but at least you get a live concert. - before anyone PM's me... I'm sorry, but I really don't have the time right now to start burning dvd's

I have a show from that 05 Benicassim Festival in Spain. I think it's complete.

dc_04 10-10-2007 10:07 AM

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just ordered the birmingham show :)

can't wait 'till it arrives!!

- dc

TheBang 10-10-2007 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by spacejunk
I have a show from that 05 Benicassim Festival in Spain. I think it's complete.

It has everything except the last track, Two Months Off. It was broadcast on TV.

There's also the webcast for the Cocoon show in 2006, which may be unofficially released on DVD someday . . .

negative1 10-10-2007 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by joethelion
you know... I REALLY doubt that we're going to get another dvd

at least - as a stand-alone dvd for this current tour. I mean, just b/c we've seen them record the shows, doesn't mean that there's something planned.

or maybe they'll use the video, as
extra tracks on singles.. or for some other project..

maybe they'll put them online at the underworldlive.com
site like they did with several of the other concerts?

you never know where they'll use them or where they'll
show up..

later
-1

negative1 10-10-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBang
And it looks like downloads are not available. CD's only. And no DVD's for the Roundhouse gigs, despite them being webcast?

I wonder if someone from the Underworld crew is helping the Live Here Now guys do the track splitting each night.

Let's see at GBP15 a pop, plus 9.50 for shipping to the US, that makes about 100 pounds or just over $200 for the 6 shows announced so far. Ouch.

that was the same price for the tokyo live 3cd set..so yeah,
you're getting less..

but that might be the standard price that the service charges..
something like $30 per set..no artwork, etc...

i doubt any bootlegs would sound as good...also, i'm sure
they'll be going for a lot more, once they hit ebay, etc..

better to get an official version..

later
-1

holden 10-10-2007 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by negative1

i doubt any bootlegs would sound as good...also, i'm sure
they'll be going for a lot more, once they hit ebay, etc..

better to get an official version..

later
-1

Hopefully so. Soundboards should have much better fidelity and balance than Joe Bootleg's recording, which usually suffers from (or in some cases benefits from) nearby banter and the everpresent "WOOOOO!" (my girlfriend was listening to the Central Park UW show recording, and commented on the amount of Wooooing going on. But as Karl says, "Celebrate!"). However, a downside to these encore-type shows is that sometimes the EQ isn't lovely (maybe the bass too high or low) and depending on your tastes, it can sound a little sterile without more crowd reaction.

All that said, i'm definitely looking forward to these, esp. the 3 london gigs, as they'll surely surprise each night with different tracks/order.

TheBang 10-10-2007 02:28 PM

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Oh yeah, I'm definitely ordering all of them right now.

The way I look at it, there's a limited press-run for these. Probably less than the 7000 made for Electraglide. And if you want to buy that one now, it'll cost you $200, if you can even find it.

Might as well spend the $200 now for all of them. If you ever, ever want one in the future, it'll probably cost you more than $30.

the real stuff 10-10-2007 03:42 PM

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I wish these college days were over already and I had a disposable income ... sigh. I'll carefully choose one and be pleased to pieces over it. (so glad they're doing this :))

Flywaver 10-10-2007 04:11 PM

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Just got back from the Norwich gig and no CD there.
Can't remember the playlist totally
Only downside was no Glambucket.
The upside.........Dirty Epic, Beautiful Bigmouth Burnout!?
YOU DO SCRIBBLE!!!! :D

galama 10-10-2007 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Georg.
latest news from http://www.liveherenow.co.uk/nowrecording/

"UNDERWORLD

We are honoured to be working with the legendary Underworld to produce a series of limited edition live CD recordings from their current world tour.

G. ;)

The words "limited edition" are scaring me. I can't afford a CD right now after seeing them in NY and ordering OWB. But how limited are these limited CD's...and give me my paycheck ASAP.

It'll be tough to make a choice about what CD i should get.

Ufotofu 10-10-2007 07:03 PM

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They played You Do Scribble, Dirty Epic, and something Bigmouth-like at Norwich?

Wow!

dc_04 10-10-2007 08:46 PM

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sounds like an amazing show!

gutted there's no official recording of that one :(

- dc

Butcher of Bakersfield 10-11-2007 02:05 PM

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This is how i'm going to justify ignoring this crap.

Are these CDs in any way being released in co-op by Underworldlive.com.....no? then they aren't real albums, and a waste of my time and money.

just because Underworldlive.com is going to have tracklistings for the gigs up on the sited, doesn't mean they're doing it for the people that bought these CDs. their myspace has tracklistings for the US shows too.

and i don't get this - what are they doing? making the CDs of the show at the show? these things aren't CDRs are they. i hope the f*ck not. how do you buy a real pressed 2xCD pack of the show you were at right after it ends? there's a time frame issue problem here.

King of Snake 10-11-2007 02:18 PM

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if you don't like it, don't buy it. It's very simple.
Personally I don't see what you're complaining about. Don't you want high quality underworld live recordings directly after the show? :confused:
I guess they're a bit pricey though...

BeautifulBurnout 10-11-2007 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Butcher of Bakersfield
This is how i'm going to justify ignoring this crap.

Are these CDs in any way being released in co-op by Underworldlive.com.....no? then they aren't real albums, and a waste of my time and money.

How can you say they "aren't real albums"? It is a co-op between the band, their management and the company that specialises in doing this. Of course it's a "real" album. It's a soundboard recording of the gig.

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just because Underworldlive.com is going to have tracklistings for the gigs up on the sited, doesn't mean they're doing it for the people that bought these CDs. their myspace has tracklistings for the US shows too.
I'm not sure I get your point here.
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and i don't get this - what are they doing? making the CDs of the show at the show? these things aren't CDRs are they. i hope the f*ck not. how do you buy a real pressed 2xCD pack of the show you were at right after it ends? there's a time frame issue problem here.
Check out their website here. (Not the one linked on the first post of the thread, btw.) It explains what they do and how they position themselves.

Justify your refusal to buy all you want, mate, but so far you haven't convinced me that your "justifications" are all that valid. :p

TheBang 10-11-2007 02:25 PM

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These are official Underworld releases. They have underworldlive.com catalog numbers. They have Underworld/Tomato artwork (click on the Buy or Pre-order link for each one to see the artwork).

http://www.underworldlive.com/liverecordings will be in support of these recordings. Tracklistings will be posted there after the fact because the tracklistings aren't known ahead of time in order to be printed to the packaging.

From the FAQ:
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Why do you use CD-R discs and not factory pressed 'silver' CDs?
We use CDR Media as it is impossible to 'factory press' the CDs in under 10 minutes. Aside from the problem that CD presses are precision equipment and would not react well to going on tour, CD replication in a factory requires the production of a glass master, a process which can take several hours. The CDR Media we use are Taiyo Yuden. They are of the highest quality, and excel in the areas of audio quality and longevity and error rate. For some info on CDR quality go to http://www.cdmediaworld.com.

geoff 10-11-2007 02:53 PM

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$30 US is a bit much, so i'll pick one or two of them with the more tantalizing setlists.

The BIG question is, how long will they be available for purchase on the website? Does anybody know?

I'd really like to see the setlists from some of the upcoming gigs before making my decision...

Lx_Nen 10-11-2007 03:33 PM

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Just so people know what to expect, here's what the Birmingham package looks like - proper Tomato artwork throughout - and a poster I nabbed from the gig too :-)

TheBang 10-11-2007 04:53 PM

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The packaging and discs look fantastic. Can you upload a higher res picture of it?

Lx_Nen 10-11-2007 05:02 PM

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Not with this crummy mobile phone I can't :-(

xolbe2 10-11-2007 05:35 PM

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Hi,

I was at the Birmingham gig, and at the merch stall they had a bunch of cases for the I Love Techno gig in Gent. They were similar in packaging to the Birmingham one and had a number UWRLIVECD-019 or 12. Can't quite remember.
But there looks like there might be quite a few of these.

dubman 10-11-2007 06:37 PM

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...

i dont know what to make of this.

are we seriously about to get an avalanche of live recordings released through underworld's own label?
because this would be the... best thing ever?

butcher - this is really fucking simple.
UWR means it's released ON UNDERWORLD'S OWN LABEL.
which means it's officially on their label. part of their discography
which is why i'm sweatin it because there's going to be so much to get and very little cash to supply it.

sooooooo... stuff it.

Butcher of Bakersfield 10-11-2007 09:13 PM

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woh, hey its cool. i sometimes forget how personally everyone takes this stuff.

usually when something like this comes along i avoid it altogether simply because there is too much being offered and i'm an all or nothing type of guy when it comes to this sort of thing.

i didn't know they were Underworldlive.com catalog numbers because they didn't seem like any of the other cat numbers, i.e. Live in Tokyo (UWR-00000something). if anything i'd really rather purchase a show that i was at.

i'm not too hot on the idea of CDRs at all even though that's the only way it could have been done at the time. i've spent a lot of money on a CDR release before and afterward didn't feel like it was worth it. guess i'd rather wait and get a factory CD set, had it been offered.

thanks for the info and putting up the pic of the album.

was the Live in Tokyo album a 3xCDR release as well?

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Originally Posted by dubman
sooooooo... stuff it.

LOL, all i heard is like Mike Myers in my head when you said that!

dubman 10-12-2007 08:08 AM

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i had actually just got done watching wayne's world for the first time in.... years. it's amazing

also - are these CD-Rs?
strikes me as a repeat of the tokyo thing, with more artwork, and those weren't CD-Rs

hippy dave 10-12-2007 08:15 AM

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no nottingham :(

did they really play you do scribble at norwich?! want!

Flywaver 10-12-2007 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hippy dave
no nottingham :(

did they really play you do scribble at norwich?! want!

They sure did. Even karl looked like he had lost the plot. When Mr Smith said to Mr Price i have just found the You Do Scribble button! :D

Only downside is i want a CD with the same track list as Norwich so i am banking on one of the London gigs!?

Lx_Nen 10-12-2007 08:30 AM

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These new live double sets are CD-Rs, the triple Tokyo set was pressed, not CD-R.

dubman 10-12-2007 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lx_Nen
These new live double sets are CD-Rs, the triple Tokyo set was pressed, not CD-R.

sigh.
really
that blows to some extent.
...
i'll still get a couple

Lx_Nen 10-12-2007 08:59 AM

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I'll get the ones I'm going to... and maybe the others if the tracks or arrangements are different. Comparing the youtube clip from Boston to the Birmingham and Norwich gigs, I think Bamboo is 'getting worked out live on stage' as King of Snake was, so it might get better/more experimental as the tour goes on.

For reference, here's a list of tracks that UW have played on this tour so far that are NOT on the Birmingham CD:

Luetin
Dirty Epic
Spikee
Skyscraper
Juanita
Mo Move
New Train (not sure how this differs from Dark Train?)
Rowla
You Do Scribble
Moaner

If there's a Norwich CD, it would cover 4 of these (Dirty Epic, Rowla, Moaner, You Do scribble)

TheBang 10-12-2007 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lx_Nen
New Train (not sure how this differs from Dark Train?)

They're the same. My suspicion is that long ago UW originally were calling it New Train to distinguish it from early versions of Dark Train that they used to play live which were significantly different from the Dark Train as we know it on album releases.

botkiller 10-12-2007 11:26 AM

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I'm impressed that they can do this - it must take some serious gear to record everything, then burn multitudes of discs to sell right there at the gig. That's badass.

Flywaver 10-12-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by botkiller
I'm impressed that they can do this - it must take some serious gear to record everything, then burn multitudes of discs to sell right there at the gig. That's badass.

Faithless did this at Wembley arena earlier this year. Wonder who came up with this though!?

BrotherLovesDub 10-12-2007 11:54 AM

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Pearl Jam and Phish were doing this years ago.

dubman 10-12-2007 11:55 AM

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might have been the pixies, i think. i remeber p-fork losing their heads over it.
then big labels were like "wtf is this you cant do this unless we're seeing money from it and we're not interested in doing this anyway so we'll buy out whatever companies are doing this. bye."

ah yes.

dubman 10-12-2007 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub
Pearl Jam and Phish were doing this years ago.

directly after gigs? i remember them doing this and selling them en masse in lil slipcases at stores, not right after gigs.

TheBang 10-12-2007 12:34 PM

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It's not that hard. Someone can be monitoring, mastering, and tracking throughout the show. With just 2 or 3 High-speed, high-capacity CD-R duplicators like this:

http://www.stordigital.com/roboticdvdcdcopy1000.html

you can pump out 300-400 discs per hour. Those duplicators only cost about $2000-3000 each. The packaging and CD-R's can be pre-printed and pre-silkscreened.

According to their website, Live Here Now has been doing this since Dec. 2004. I think InstantLive was also doing it at least since 2004, because they did all the PWEI Reformation gigs in Jan. 2005, including a DVD release at one of the shows.

Butcher of Bakersfield 10-12-2007 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lx_Nen
I'll get the ones I'm going to... and maybe the others if the tracks or arrangements are different. Comparing the youtube clip from Boston to the Birmingham and Norwich gigs, I think Bamboo is 'getting worked out live on stage' as King of Snake was, so it might get better/more experimental as the tour goes on.

For reference, here's a list of tracks that UW have played on this tour so far that are NOT on the Birmingham CD:

Luetin
Dirty Epic
Spikee
Skyscraper
Juanita
Mo Move
New Train (not sure how this differs from Dark Train?)
Rowla
You Do Scribble
Moaner

If there's a Norwich CD, it would cover 4 of these (Dirty Epic, Rowla, Moaner, You Do scribble)

and Kittens as well.

yeah i was going to say that about Pearl Jam doing the mass diskings of live shows.

so i thought the Live in Tokyo 3x factory CD album was available right after that show as well, am i wrong? how was THAT done?


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