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dubman 10-01-2007 09:21 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
ok well, i have a few hours before class, let's get my own track by track in, because a lot of the cuddle bunny haters have made this a necessity by now...

Crocodile - considering the graceful lack of bang on this album, this track seems funkier every time i push play. it's still the same song, but it gets things nice and warmed up. still love that growling bass, lyrics are great, and the chorus is just that much better after seeing it live.

Beautiful Burnout - boy did this track grow a pair. it went from getting a strangely eager but slightly let down feeling from the ambient versions to meshing the music and words brilliantly. one cant really survive without the other. the regular repetition of the music matches the picture karl paints of just another train ride. it's fast but you feel still to the point of near disassociation. it's so vivid yet the damning thing about it is that the lyrics make possibly the most awkward set of words put to song. it toes the line between simplicity, poetry, and pretension, but the vision stays intact, it just depends on the listener to accept it in the first place. once that happens it's all gravy from there. the vocal treatment is so great, a huge deepness that reverberates with this meltallic flourescence of a train. absolutely wonderful. and much more danceable than they let on in live gigs.

holding the moth - really interesting track. karl seems like hes rambling but he's not saying much of anything, which is an interesting take on their usual style of voice as instrument, because it's sitting on top of it all. the music is the key focus though, because it changes from having a slightly aggro vibe from the kick and sample, to something significantly jazzier/more chilled out with the simple introduction of a synth, and it only gets more so from there. it's an instant shift in attitude that makes it a great listen, even if i dont love it

to heal - part of me really resists it because it's so blatantly movie music, and the kind of movie music you'd find in oscar baiting movies like Traffic (even if it was used in sunshine, whatever), so it's epic and swelling and all a bit obvious.
but i'm a sucker, so i like reveling in it anyway. and hey, i'd like hearing this in a movie anyway.

ring road - oh really. is that what we're doing. haha okay.
i love this song because the lyrics and delivery are dazzlingly weird and free of any desire to be any good, and it's so obviously a kept improv of rambling, it's like taking a warm morning walk and feeling excessively good about it, the threat of escalating heat later in the day contributing to the frantic pace and continual observations of things that could be something or nothing, which all comes together as something vivid and feeling very fresh. it's so awkward though. i just dont want to deal with my english-major friends giving me the sideways glance of "wtf is this bs?", so i have to enjoy this bubbly track all by myself for now. also, spot the live sample used for their live gig used in the 96-99 days

glam bucket - you heard it here first, bitches: this is just a good as the live version. in the live version the extra kick is great, but would feel really forced on the album and would probably clash with everything going on, the pause before it goes steady at 2:12 is such a subtle change but feels so good. the guitars are simply louder, so it's not the mindblowing add-on that made twist so much better. and how they come in like a switch has been flipped at 2:32 is damn near sublime. the synth stabs are fucking massive, the beautifully warm bass disappears and it's just them escalating all things higher, and then the bass comes back, and it's so perfect for such a brief moment. then it comes back again. it's fucking delerious. this tune is an instant classic and probably my favorite on the album.

boy boy boy - it's opposite day! the *more* i listen to this song, the *more* i dislike it! and the fact that it's the next single makes me think this is da3d mk2. a track that sounds very loud and very big and musically uses a bag a tricks that's vaguely painful to put up with. vibes of U2, "booming" drums, a false sense of urgency, backing vocals? superflous and highly grating strings, crap guitar, "intense" bass... the parts that arent flat (like the lyrics!) do nothing to help it out of the bombastic hole this track digs itself.

cuddle bunny vs. the celtic villages - I LOVE THIS ONE. sounds real and imagined while out exploring something hidden and largely made of metal. a stillness of setting but the visual world grinds its gears and stays busy all the time. it's ridiculously inspiring and i'm doing a lot of my design projects around it.

faxed invitation - brilliant, although mostly because karl is on his A-game here. a wealth of information and perception given in a warm and deep delivery that keeps the steady beat moving along. and then when the kick comes in he steps it up again and ads this incredible sensuousness to it. one of the few non-ambient tracks where karl quite clearly drives the track wherever it should go.

good morning cockerel - great little piano interlude. nothing especially gifted in the piano itself, but complex enough so that it doesnt sound like a silly "because i want to try it" experiment. something different for underworld, but also written very well. karl keeps the vibe together with his warmth.

best mamgu ever - i like it, though i think it's the weakest closer since M.E., it's something to do with the beat and the bass. maybe it's a little too 80's or alternately, a little too au courant with the exhaustively average downtempo stuff of today. it's a nice little journey to be sure, but vibes like that keep it from being the long journey they seem to be kinda going for. it's good that it's long though, because it makes it more of a pleasant extension than a proper track. it can simply feel good instead of demanding something more, and there's nothing in this tracks that's anything to write home about. a pretty great kickback, but it's no luetin.

overall - after being so endlessly, exhaustingly excited for this to come out; at the expense of staying current with everything else as my concentration was entirely focused on anticipating and speculating on this new evolution, and working up my own personal hype storm, i am not disappointed in the least. i'm exceedingly happy with it, and infinitely more relieved that this sounds like a band much more sure of its footing, personally and musically. can't wait for the next riverrun. A-

mmm skyscraper 10-01-2007 10:59 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
boy boy boy makes sense right after trim.

also if you put ballet lane before best mamgu ever, you get a classic track. are the horn parts the same? the broken up lyrics remind me of river of bass.

owb = ahdo ii, which is not a bad thing

good morning cockerel sounds like the opening music for some breakfast show. lovely.

denkbat 10-01-2007 11:03 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
I've listened to this album a total number of... 2 times now. I won't say much about it, except that I love it! Though the beginning of "Moth" and the formulaic and boring "Boy..." seem a little out of place. I certainly don't mind tracks like "To Heal" and "Cuddle Bunny" since any album should find time for something simple and light, but they don't add much.

My favourite is definitely "Ring Road", which is fantastic. My opinion might change once I focus on the lyrics, but so far I've avoided the temptation. I was initially put off by the "Bruce Lee"-beats, but combined with the amazing chorus ("People squinting..."), they give the song a really majestic quality that makes it stand out to me. Overall, it reminds of me of "8 Ball", and that's certainly a compliment as it's one of my all-time favourites. A celebration of life, perhaps?

Oh, and every unmentioned track from this album is excellent :)

Now, bring on the actual release so I can buy it! ;)

freur 10-01-2007 11:55 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Listening to OWB right now
Best track(after 1 listening): Best mamgu ever
Maybe it's because I'm 40.........

Buji 10-01-2007 01:00 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Im 26 and my favourite track so far is 'Best Mamgu Ever' love it!

The album is exceptional as expected, cant wait to see em in Nottingham and looking forward to getting the proper release with dvd!

Get in.

crank 10-01-2007 01:29 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
oh, i'm trying so so so hard to hold out. for the actual release. this is the first time I've ever tried this and your reviews. it's like. i'm addicted
and i can't not go and try and find it
but i'm trying
i was hoping
so hoping that aNt would assit me but alas no.
<sigh>
need
a
fix
now
argh.

potatobroth 10-01-2007 01:33 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Ring Road and Faxed Invitation are my two faves of the album.

BeautifulBurnout 10-01-2007 01:44 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freur
Listening to OWB right now
Best track(after 1 listening): Best mamgu ever
Maybe it's because I'm 40.........

LOL

UW is ageless and timeless.

"Hi, my name is Janie, I am 45 and I'm an Underworldholic. It has been two hours since my last track...."

ndrwrld 10-01-2007 08:00 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
i apoligize for slagging one's who grabbed the ' leak ' .
i couldnt help myself, and tonight, i heard, and realized again, why i love Underworld.
the strength of this album, from song 1 to song 11, is undeniable.

well done boys...cant wait to get the actual copy 3 days before i see ya @ the Roundhouse.

Cadevil 10-02-2007 09:16 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Lx-nen, it sounds as if Karl is speaking to you in his post on UWlive...I really enjoyed your post about Karl's lyrical references.

jose m 10-02-2007 09:21 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
what he said !:D

viddy 10-02-2007 09:25 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
So this has leaked? lame...

BrotherLovesDub 10-02-2007 09:53 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
yes, LAME encoded!

stauff 10-02-2007 08:36 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
For those who have been able to resist the temptation of torrents (anyone?), there are some short samples of some of the tracks from OWB up on the traffic japan site:

http://trafficjpn.com/underworld/musicvideos.html

- Matthew

PS: cuddle bunny is awesome. I thought cool bits like that would only ever appear on the lemonworld broadcasts.

phaseblue 10-02-2007 08:45 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
JUST GOT MY OFFCIAL OWB!!!!! (via Amazon.co.jp)

Listening to it right now!

God, I love living in Japan - he, he;)

Matt

BeautifulBurnout 10-02-2007 10:38 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaseblue
JUST GOT MY OFFCIAL OWB!!!!! (via Amazon.co.jp)

Listening to it right now!

God, I love living in Japan - he, he;)

Matt

OH SHUT UP!





;)

stauff 10-02-2007 10:49 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaseblue
JUST GOT MY OFFCIAL OWB!!!!! (via Amazon.co.jp)

Listening to it right now!

God, I love living in Japan - he, he;)

Matt

Mmm.. Utsunomiya. Possibly the only place in Japan that sells chocolate gyouza, and home to yet-another-guy-called-Matt.

My GF comes back from Japan next week with my copy of OWB. Could it get any better than that?

- Matthew

(answer: yes, if she came back tomorrow..)

Floating Dave 10-03-2007 01:06 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
I like the album and after the happiness of ADO I like the slightly scathing nature of tracks like Ring Road and Boy, Boy, Boy.

I had two things on my personal wish list for this album:

1) I was hoping for HiFi album versions of Small Conker and a Twix & You Do Scribble

2) On Cuddle Bunny Vs The Celtic Villages I really wanted to hear what I regard as an acute bit of Engerland observation, originally heard in an old Lemonworld broadcast. It's remained with me and I find myself talking the words over the album version

When she talks she makes a sound I want to hear
But he's her interpreter, talking over her
Listening to the sound of his own voice

Tiny island dweller
Spinning in his own stew
Whistling at cappuccinos

Interjector
Agitator
Feel the disturbance of the flow

Drawing maps on the backs of paper napkins
Hauling his great bulk around the coffeehouse
In this home of the fancy sweet thing he's a roadblock to her radiance

Just another technicolor freak
Indelicate, damaged & loud

Essex makes only for the world

Jan 10-03-2007 02:02 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
So according to those samples on iTunes Loads of Birds is also from the Sunshine soundtrack.
Interesting.

I'm also waiting for my Japanese CD+DVD copy... hopefully it doesn't take too long to go through customs.

big screen satellite 10-03-2007 06:30 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
just added the mark knight remix of bb to the first post in this thread, for the record...

will continue to add as more tracks / remixes appear...

keep us posted...

negative1 10-03-2007 08:19 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
is there a time for 'loads of birds' yet?
i need to update my list..

however, i still think this will go with the uw mkIII
listing though.. oh well..

later
-1

dubman 10-03-2007 08:32 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
time is 5:29

negative1 10-03-2007 09:06 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman
time is 5:29

thanx...

duh...i should have checked the uw wiki...it was there
also..

later
-1

negative1 10-03-2007 02:03 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
is the other CD+DVD version?

[COLOR=black]CD
  • 1. Crocodile
  • 2. Beautiful Burnout
  • 3. Holding The Moth
  • 4. To Heal
  • 5. Ring Road
  • 6. Glam Bucket
  • 7. Boy Boy Boy
  • 8. Cuddle Bunny Vs Celtic Villages
  • 9. Faxed Invitation
  • 10. Good Morning Cockerel
  • 11. Best Mamgu Ever
Bonus DVD
  • 1. Crocodile [Video]
  • 2. Photo Slideshows Of Shows & Album Recordings and the First Edition Of The Band's Latest Art Project 'Book Of Jam'
later
-1
[/COLOR]

negative1 10-03-2007 02:09 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
why is this listed as the album version,
when it is 2 minutes longer?

crocodile - album version- 8:57 - cd/12"

is this like when 'moaner' album version was
10:17 long on the cd-single, and 7:37 on
the actual album..

finally:
what other formats will there be for this?

cd
4xlp
cass?

(darnit, i still need to get:
a hundred days off 2xlp
underworld 1992-2000 4xlp)

later
-1

Jan 10-03-2007 02:19 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1
why is this listed as the album version,
when it is 2 minutes longer?

crocodile - album version- 8:57 - cd/12"

is this like when 'moaner' album version was
10:17 long on the cd-single, and 7:37 on
the actual album..

On the promo the album version of Crocodile ends with 2 minutes of the same synthesizer loop.
That loop is also on the album, but Beautiful Burnout gets mixed/faded in. So when you skip to track 2 on the CD you can still hear the last bits of Crocodile...

I've tried to substract the promo version from the album, it worked and I got the 'naked' version of Beautiful Burnout.

negative1 10-03-2007 02:41 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan
On the promo the album version of Crocodile ends with 2 minutes of the same synthesizer loop.
That loop is also on the album, but Beautiful Burnout gets mixed/faded in. So when you skip to track 2 on the CD you can still hear the last bits of Crocodile...

I've tried to substract the promo version from the album, it worked and I got the 'naked' version of Beautiful Burnout.

you can email me how to do this?

i've tried removing soundwaves before (using soundforge),
but i don't know how to do it, do you invert the waveforms?
use some special software?

thanx
-1

TheBang 10-03-2007 02:42 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1
  • 1. Crocodile [Video]
  • 2. Photo Slideshows Of Shows & Album Recordings and the First Edition Of The Band's Latest Art Project 'Book Of Jam'
later
-1
[/FONT][/COLOR]

This is what was tentatively listed on Wikipedia before the full details of the DVD were known. AFAIK, there is only one version of the DVD, which is what's listed here and on Wikipedia now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1
finally:
what other formats will there be for this?

cass?

Har. I don't think anyone releases cassettes anymore, do they? AFAIK, this will be CD, LP, and various digital releases, such as 128 Kbps M4P on iTunes, 256 Kbps VBR MP3 for U.S. pre-orders, maybe Beatport and other download services?

lloyd 10-03-2007 02:42 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
http://trafficjpn.com/underworld/newrelease.html
Japanese release with the contents of the DVD.
The cd/dvd is also the 12 (incl japanese only bonus) track.

negative1 10-03-2007 02:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang
Har. I don't think anyone releases cassettes anymore, do they?

every album up to 'one hundred days' off had a cassette release,
(including 'everything, everything')...although 1992-2002 didn't
have one either...

i only have a cassette player in my car, although i can
hook up and adapter for cd's..

later
-1

dubman 10-03-2007 02:51 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1
is the other CD+DVD version?

[COLOR=black]CD
  • 1. Crocodile
  • 2. Beautiful Burnout
  • 3. Holding The Moth
  • 4. To Heal
  • 5. Ring Road
  • 6. Glam Bucket
  • 7. Boy Boy Boy
  • 8. Cuddle Bunny Vs Celtic Villages
  • 9. Faxed Invitation
  • 10. Good Morning Cockerel
  • 11. Best Mamgu Ever
Bonus DVD
  • 1. Crocodile [Video]
  • 2. Photo Slideshows Of Shows & Album Recordings and the First Edition Of The Band's Latest Art Project 'Book Of Jam'
later
-1
[/COLOR]

Why would they release two different dvd versions when one is abviously more lacking than the other?
underworld's myspace, ostensibly the site most casual listeners would visit, are told as such:
The limited edition DVD includes Tomato directed music videos of Metal Friend (previously unreleased), Crocodile and Good Morning Cockerel, live show visuals for Rez, and 3 slide shows including the Abbey Road recording session for the album with photos by Underworld, Live in Tokyo with photos by Perou, and the Book of Jam Art Jam curated and created by Tomato.

so that's what's happening in the US anyway.

negative1 10-03-2007 02:55 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman
Why would they release two different dvd versions when one is abviously more lacking than the other?
underworld's myspace, ostensibly the site most casual listeners would visit, are told as such:
The limited edition DVD includes Tomato directed music videos of Metal Friend (previously unreleased), Crocodile and Good Morning Cockerel, live show visuals for Rez, and 3 slide shows including the Abbey Road recording session for the album with photos by Underworld, Live in Tokyo with photos by Perou, and the Book of Jam Art Jam curated and created by Tomato.

so that's what's happening in the US anyway.

yeah, that's what i was wondering..i'm getting the US version+DVD,
however, i know the japanese have a cd+DVD version, and i thought
the UK might have 1 also...

i've seen that it was listed as a 'limited edition' version, like 1992-2002
japanese cd+DVD.....and thought maybe there was a 'non-limited'
normal version with less tracks..

besides, i saw that listing on ebay, from a UK seller, maybe
they didn't have the full listing/information yet?

thanx
-1

Jan 10-03-2007 03:00 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1
i've tried removing soundwaves before (using soundforge),
but i don't know how to do it, do you invert the waveforms?

It's quite easy to do in Soundforge.
Copy the first waveform, then paste it on the second: edit --> paste special --> mix --> put both sliders on 0 dB and check 'invert data' of the source slider
Keep in mind that your source and destination waveforms have to be perfectly aligned because it doesn't work otherwise.

negative1 10-03-2007 03:03 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan
It's quite easy to do in Soundforge.
Copy the first waveform, then paste it on the second: edit --> paste special --> mix --> put both sliders on 0 dB and check 'invert data' of the source slider
Keep in mind that your source and destination waveforms have to be perfectly aligned because it doesn't work otherwise.

yeah, i tried the invert waveforms...but i didn't set both to 0db..
that's why it didn't work! ok, going home from work to try it out..

thanx jan,

-1

chimp 10-03-2007 03:37 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
I'm just going to jump in here and hopefully save a few people a bit of cash.....

Before you go off and buy an import of a Limited Edition CD/DVD from another market, you should know......

That all the Limited Edition CD/DVD editions contain the same DVD content. There is no difference between any versions no matter what you may read/see (peoples interpretations of what's contained may differ, but the content doesn't).

Hope this helps....

TheBang 10-03-2007 09:52 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Straight from the top, thank you very much.

Also, I'm pretty sure the UK is getting a CD+DVD edition also, so pretty much every market will have access to it.

negative1 10-04-2007 06:09 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
Great, thanx for the official word UWHQ:
=========================================
updated: with 1 track cd single promos
=========================================
so we have these releases,

crocodile:
---------
japan itunes
uk itunes

uk 12"
uk lim 12"
japan 12"
japan lim 12"

japan promo cds (1 track)
aus promo cds (1 track)
uk promo cds (5 track)
uk promo cds 2 (4 track)
us promo cds (5 track different order)

uk cds
eur cds?

oblivion with bells
-----------------
uk promo cd

uk cd
uk cd+dvd

uk 2x12" vinyl

japanese cd+1
japanese cd+1+dvd

us cd
us cd+dvd

japanese itunes+2?
=================================


later
-1

Blueski 10-04-2007 09:38 AM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
I think this record is amazing.

I dowloaded it today and listened to it today, twice (and yes, I will buy the album when it comes out).

Imo, stand out tracks are 'Holding the Moth', 'Ring Road', 'Boy, Boy, Boy' and 'Faxed Invitation'. But all the tracks are good. I presume this album will be one of my favorites. I can't really understand some people who don't like 'Boy, Boy, Boy', it's easily one of the best tracks Underworld has done in years.

... Like when I first listened to 'A Hundred Days Off' I didn't even like all the tracks, some of them needed to grow on me (like 'TRIM' -- which I actually love now and 'Dinosaur Adventure 3D' -- which I think is good now, but not great). My point is that this album stands out to be FRESH and sounding good in my ears and making me smile. And that is what music is all about, making people feel happy (8 Ball happy).

Can't wait to have my copy of the album.

Top 5.

dog 10-04-2007 03:08 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
10 days.. pretty much need to hear this now

verbal 10-04-2007 11:04 PM

Re: The Official OWB Thread
 
I downloaded it cause I couldn't wait. But I will purchase it. Which reminds me, I still have to place my preorder.

I've only had the time to listen to it once, so this is only a partial judgement: I'm disappointed. I waited five years for this?

Nothing really energetic except maybe Crocodile and Beautiful Burnout. The rest just seems too chill and relaxed.

Maybe it'll grow on me with a few more listens. But right now, I miss Emerson.


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