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Ufotofu 09-24-2007 09:33 AM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by potatobroth
with more albums comes more responsibility to play well known tracks. its either that or extend the show by 2 hours.

back pre-BF, the boys had a decent amount of deep cuts they could play to fill up the show. now that they have 5+ its getting harder to slip those little gems like Confusion, Twist, Air Towel etc into to the show. Just recently they've been dropping Moaner and there is already a longing for it. Imagine if they dropped: TMO, BS, KoS, Cowgirl/Rez from their show. It would be great for the super fan who has every live show downloaded anyway, but it would suck for the average fan who sees them live once or twice.

An acute observation...where are the 14 hour gigs when you need them? :D

GDK 09-24-2007 09:56 AM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing really?
 
I completely agree with this post. The one clowny guy was just dancing and screwing around on stage while the other two were just playing with the soundboard.
[/sarcasm]

dubman 09-24-2007 12:59 PM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
all this talk has me going in and consolidating all the bootlegs i have scatered everywhere and backing them up on my hueg external drive, so that means also a lot of listening (and dancing crazy around the house, i think i found a new exercise routine.), and while the set lists and style are totally different than, say, the tramway or EFG, i'd venture to say the energy level is still right up there, it's just a matter of preference for the frantic, sped up techno of old vs. the monstrously banging of now. Tramway's 'Skyscraper' with spoonman lyrics, or Creamfields' absolutely punishing run of 'KOS'? and as potatobroth pointed out, they have a significant number of hits they feel they shouldnt cheat the casual fan out of, making 17 minute versions of confusion the waitress kind of out. it also seems like past improvisations are just as "improvised" as those of today, there's just a shorter time for them. given time, they pull stuff out like the cocoon gig, which was massive.

yeah, we need a 14 hr gig. before karl is actually physically incapable of them ;)

side note: i could have sworn i had this gig but couldnt find it anywhere, its the one with rez that has the ludicrously slow build up, also has the kid going "PHUUUUTURE" introducing it before the sound pops in an completely satisfying way. someone refresh my memory on it please?

potatobroth 09-24-2007 01:07 PM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman
side note: i could have sworn i had this gig but couldnt find it anywhere, its the one with rez that has the ludicrously slow build up, also has the kid going "PHUUUUTURE" introducing it before the sound pops in an completely satisfying way. someone refresh my memory on it please?

Isnt that Reepherbahn? Could be wrong though, its been a LONG while since I've delved that deep.

TheBang 09-24-2007 01:55 PM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing really?
 
That's Reading Festival 1996. It's also the last track on Bootleg Babies.

They also did the slow Rez build-up on another 1996 gig that was broadcast on radio and recorded. I forget which one exactly. It might have been Paleo Festival.

Edit: Yeah, it was Paleo. The one you're describing, though, was Reading.

dubman 09-24-2007 02:11 PM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang
That's Reading Festival 1996. It's also the last track on Bootleg Babies.

They also did the slow Rez build-up on another 1996 gig that was broadcast on radio and recorded. I forget which one exactly. It might have been Paleo Festival.

Edit: Yeah, it was Paleo. The one you're describing, though, was Reading.

*facepalm* of course
i dig through all of them one by one and i neglect bootleg babies.
thanks once again :D

edit: you think if we get a decent recording of this tour we could do another BB? or is that another 5 years away

holden 09-25-2007 06:43 AM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
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Originally Posted by dubman
edit: you think if we get a decent recording of this tour we could do another BB? or is that another 5 years away

You know, when a new BB was suggested after the AHDO tour, it seemed like a bad idea, since basically only TMO, DA3D, Twist, and rarely Luetin or Momove wa added to the setlist. But now we have recordings from 05-07 with stuff from RiverRuns, lots of new improvs/unreleased tracks/Darren Price interludes, and of course the new album! Perhaps a new fan compilation is due!

holden

p.s. several high quality recordings from 05-06 exist. As for this tour, the NYC show is pretty decent (B+ to my ears), and the Holly wood Bowl, though very quiet, sounds great...boost the volume and it's delightful. I'm sure future shows that may be recorded will also benefit from new tunes.

joethelion 09-25-2007 08:00 AM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing really?
 
well - bootleg babies only went up to the point where Darren left (if memory serves me)

so... we probably could do another BB shortly, as long as we get like a couple more high quality recordings

b/c you'd have like - the tour that they did to promote EE, AHDO, then like - the Ultra Music Festival (and those random gigs around that time), the EU/Japan shows f/ around the RiverRun releases, and the current tour

dubman 09-25-2007 11:21 AM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
right and whereas before it covered 1994-1999 (5 years) this one would cover 2000-2007 (7 years). and whereas before it was working off of dubno through BF, this would be doing the EE tour, AHDO, riverruns, and this upcoming album.
and we would still have a decent excuse to include born slippy because it's the 2003 version (other than that it might be exciting to eschew the hits a bit more)

the real stuff 09-25-2007 11:34 AM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
might I suggest the title "Bootleg Babies 2: Electric Boogaloo"? ;)

geoff 09-25-2007 08:01 PM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing really?
 
Hmm... time for Bootleg Babies Disc 3? Disc 4? :)

Don't forget there may be a few gems from pre-AHDO that were never included in BB... (Pearl's Girl for example - we just couldn't find a recording that was up to the same quality as the rest of those tracks...)

So you could get a nice mixture of old and new.

dubman 09-25-2007 10:40 PM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
geoff!
listened to BB again on massive home theatre today, danced myself silly. thanks for mixing it as brilliantly and as energetically as you did!
if were talking about revisiting stuff, we could put cowgirl from the new and improved werchter set maybe? i dont think i've ever heard a finale so explosive. pearl's girl from creamfields 2002 might work too. nice and very f'n loud.

stimpee 09-25-2007 11:39 PM

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Bootleg Babies 2 has been discussed many times, especially on RTSR the home of Underworld bootleg recordings. Maybe some serious discussion can be started after the current tour has finished in Korea and Japan.

dubman 09-25-2007 11:44 PM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
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Originally Posted by stimpee
Bootleg Babies 2 has been discussed many times, especially on RTSR the home of Underworld bootleg recordings.

okay okay hint taken ;)

it's just that every time i start posting there i feel bad when i stop.

geoff 09-26-2007 09:03 AM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dubman
geoff!
listened to BB again on massive home theatre today, danced myself silly. thanks for mixing it as brilliantly and as energetically as you did!

My pleasure! As I told TheBang, looking back, I could do a much better job mixing it now... But at the end of the day, it's the quality UW tracks that people enjoy, not my meager skills. :) Check out RTSR Power On for a better display...!

holden 09-26-2007 10:55 AM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geoff
My pleasure! As I told TheBang, looking back, I could do a much better job mixing it now... But at the end of the day, it's the quality UW tracks that people enjoy, not my meager skills. :) Check out RTSR Power On for a better display...!

Slightly off topic, but geoff, i still enjoy hearing both BB and RTSR Power-On. You did a great job with each, and Power On is all the more impressive in that there are a lot of different artists/styles to blend.

Cheers,
Holden

p.s. this whole thread makes me grin. At NYC, there were several shots of the mixing board projected on the big screen, and when Darren played his interlude tracks, he moved over to the laptop aside the board. Rick also did some smoking. So yeah, there was lots of evidence of activity!

negative1 09-26-2007 12:26 PM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing really?
 
seriously,

after this tour is over..we need talk ...
no, i don't have internet access from home (yet)..

but i do have a new computer (!) finally,
and have done some serious sifting out of
the underworld bootlegs.

in fact i'm just catching up on the last few
years of gigs/radio shows/webcasts etc..

there is definitely enough material out there,
and i'm sure there will be more..

ok..back to the thread...

later
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dubman 09-26-2007 12:35 PM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1
but i do have a new computer (!) finally,
and have done some serious sifting out of
the underworld bootlegs.

-1

huh. guess it's the right time of year something and not just me ;)

yeah, lets wait till the tour is over and get into it proper. ideas percolating.

m.g. 10-02-2007 01:00 PM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing really?
 
The mention about the "Little Clowny Boy" in today's uwlive diary is quite funny...

geoff 10-02-2007 02:02 PM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing really?
 
Haha, that made my day. Hey Karl... "Little Clowny Boy"... title for a new UW track maybe? :)

negative1 10-16-2007 10:30 AM

Re: just the little clowny boy singing live, so what are the other two guys doing rea
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by potatobroth
with more albums comes more responsibility to play well known tracks. its either that or extend the show by 2 hours.

back pre-BF, the boys had a decent amount of deep cuts they could play to fill up the show. now that they have 5+ its getting harder to slip those little gems like Confusion, Twist, Air Towel etc into to the show. Just recently they've been dropping Moaner and there is already a longing for it. Imagine if they dropped: TMO, BS, KoS, Cowgirl/Rez from their show. It would be great for the super fan who has every live show downloaded anyway, but it would suck for the average fan who sees them live once or twice.

i think this most recent tour is the closest its been to the 1997-99 days (the BF pre and prior tour.) Generous improvs, fan faves mixed in with some new stuff is the way to go. I think the days of 5 Dubno tracks are done unless the show hits the 3-4 hour mark (ala Electraglide) and that's asking way too much.

Although it does open the door for the radio show now doesn't it?

For the record, I'd love to hear the "gets much better" version of Confusion :).

i disagree, that the current tour resembles the early ones, maybe the
2000-2003 era did...with the riverrun tracks etc..

i think they are definitely playing more on the conservative
side....although their stage presence, presentation, and
external effects have vastly changed since the early
projections...

i've been spoiled by listening to the earlier, more experimental,
and improvisational gigs (agree with liam on this one)....so hearing them live isn't exactly
what it used to be...

later
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