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Fantastic ! I love the last one, my favourite :)

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oh the fourth one is wonderful -- feels like bumbling through a familiar city at night with beautiful sights everywhere. warm and dreamy.

the vocals sound a little disconnected to this feeling, but it's probably because I'm still more used to 1, 2, and 3.

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Wow...this fourth one is amazing. It's so etheral, and beautiful- ghost-like, almost. I love it.

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what's the download link for the fourth version?

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I believe the link is:

<http://www.underworldlive.com/home/FoneStrap4/mainColumnParagraphs/00/asset/Fonestrap4.mov>


If that doesn't work, I've been able to save it via my temporary internet files folder. Hope that helps out. Jason

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Love this. Awesome stuff fellas.

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thanks for the link

...anyone else wonder why none of the files so far have been able to be directly downloaded from UWlive? (as in, there's not a download link, etc)

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fantastic idea to show not just an 'evolution' of a piece, but what can be atchived from different view points.

as someone said, version 4 has lush pads, yet the vocals seems disconnected, distant. version 3 has more imediacy, like sitting infront of a campfire listening to a guy calmly pluck something away ona guitar.

which ones better? well i guess it depends on your mood.

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anyone notice that the 'city sounds' in version four are from that "San Francisco Walk - Version" file?

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version 5 up now.
i still think the first one is the best but i dont mind. keep em coming :D

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I hope they'll keep all the different versions up over time so the progression and altering of a piece can be observed. Similar to how Biro the Leggy was something from the archives of the AHDO period, played on a radio show on dirty radio, and has now ended up an album track.

The difference being with fonestrap that we're allowed the access to the work in progress as it developes which was previously only privy to a select few, let alone put on display for the public.

Not to be too lauding of such a feat, but I can't help but admire Rick and Karl that much more for their willingness to share in this way.

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I love the last one, again and again...thanks a lot to share these versions , really... :)

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This must be the "with Bells" version. :)

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hmm... very cool version

But this is so different than the other versions, I don't think you could really compare it to the others

again - what's the d/l link?
I already tried just using the fonestrap4 address, but switched the '4' for '5' and that didn't work...

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Looks like the LA version to me...;)

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http://www.underworldlive.com/home/F...Fonestrap5.mov

if you use firefox, you can have the direct' links of files (or medias..) on your current page. :)

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you know... I've always used safari

but last weekend, I actually tried out Firefox... I think I need to just sort of 'train' myself to use that instead

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I can't get any of the fonestrap links.. ( I believe it is down )

could someone please upload it somewhere?

Thx much!

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how about waiting for a bit, until the uwlive site is back up again?

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Fonestrap 1 seems to have gone from underworld live. I can't get the links people have put up on this thread to work.

Can anyone help?

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This one still works.

http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forum...6&postcount=23

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It's not working for me. I just get through to the hosting site with no sign of the file anywhere.

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Click the button that says "Free". Then enter the CAPTCHA code, and click the "Download via ......." button. That should be it.

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or check your pm box :)

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thoughts on Phonestrap6(/Autotrader4):

now this is different! frentic yet controlled, exciting and disorienting. I really like it. (edit) looking forward to it being posted on the site.

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I love this track towards the end...has a real Tin There feel to it.
Especially like all the layered vocals.

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phonestrap 6 vs autotrader 4 was the bestest...

i'm waiting for the full upload on the site, in the next couple of days...

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phonestrap 6 vs. autotrader 4 was mega!

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wasn't really digging the phonestrap/autotrader thing. Sounded like the two crashed together in a big mess of undefined sounds. Was good hearing a bit more upbeat techno-ish peace from uw again, but there were too many sounds going on imo. It started getting good at the end though when only the bassline and beats where left.

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i thought this latest version was pretty cool....the text spliced and used as another rhythm. At the very beginning, the colors being called out was a callback of To dream of love, imo. Agreed, it did get a bit messy in the middle, piles of speech. i can't make out the phonestrat lyrics anymore, either. But the beat and that rolly bass got me grooving!

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Can somebody fill me in on this? I heard phonestrap and autotrader on UWlive...but i'm not quite clear on the creative proccess behind versions 3,4,5 and so on.

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i think it's just little documents of Rick and Karl's creative process shaping a track. From version to version, we hear the evolution, what sounds they liked, which fall by the wayside.
Autotrader started with just karl speaking the listing of cars for sale. In successive versions, the words have been spliced a bit, ambient background added, and "music of the streets" included.
Phonestrap has changed a lot from the initial guitar and voice song, to become more electronic.

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yeah, i agree with this..
however the songs still evolving, so eventually it may get
to be more listenable..

still to early for my tastes..

later
-1

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Are you kidding me? I mean it wasn't exactly a fine tuned peice of work like Jumbo or Born Slippy, but the way the sampled vocal patterns evolved/changed was just mindblowing! With all the relaxed (and still beautiful) stuff Rick and Karl have been putting out lately, this was a very welcomed, almost old school, Underworld moment!

A pure wall of sound!!!

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I was almost unimpressed with the individual tracks (the Phonestrap series and the Autotraders); I thought it was nice that we could hear something like that, but they were so raw that I never really considered them "tracks." With the introduction of Phonestrap 6 + Autotrader 4, I really felt a solidness behind the otherwise airy stuff we had received before. On subsequent listens, I have come to agree that there's a heap of sound that wears me down in the song, but it's certainly something "more than the sum of its parts" and it blew me away the first time I heard it. I can't wait for further versions.

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oh I'm with you, phaseblue. this is good stuff. I've always loved when they use choppy vocal segments (especially in those live incarnations of the original Born Slippy in the 90s ... oh what I would give to see 'em play that again).

it's something to get lost in.

this whole phonestrap process is pretty cool. what more can fans ask for than a glimpse at how an Underworld track evolves? exciting.

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[quote=the real stuff](especially in those live incarnations of the original Born Slippy in the 90s ... oh what I would give to see 'em play that again).
[quote]

Oh yes!!!!!!:D

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Original BS was played in Luxemburg again, 2005.
Phonestrap6 vs Autotrader 4 is up UWlive now.

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I officially love this version with autotrader. Something to get lost in indeed. And yes, the choppy vocals are great. My favorite riverrun track was Back in the Fears with the layered vocals... this is similar to that, but more frantic.

I've already said it, but I still think this is an excellent treat as a fan to get a glimpse of the process...

Oh, to raid the Underworld vaults and hear all the wonderful evolutions like we hear with the Phonestraps. :)