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Mike 08-19-2007 01:13 PM

Re: Underworld - The Crododile Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lloyd
Looks a lot like this http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A0oMwKnU3OM
Cos it's the Rez video ;)

It works niceley with Croc..

I just imagine we are gonna see lots of cheesy karl / rick shots and lip-syncs to the words ;)

sanakan 08-19-2007 09:17 PM

Re: Underworld - The Crododile Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike
I just imagine we are gonna see lots of cheesy karl / rick shots and lip-syncs to the words ;)

is that a challenge to tom? :D

stimpee 08-21-2007 07:06 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Do we know what formats the Crocodile single is gonna be released on yet?

There are 5 track remix promo cds available:

http://i22.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/b0/8f/1cf1_1.JPG

TRACKLISTING:
01. lp version
02. single edit
03. pete heller remix
04. oliver huntemann remix
05. oliver huntemann dub

and also 2 track ones with the first 2 tracks on also. But if this single is gonna be yet another download only release in mp3 then i'm not gonna be happy because that means im having to buy a promos on ebay because i dont want to buy downloads if i can help it.
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big screen satellite 08-22-2007 04:34 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpee
Do we know what formats the Crocodile single is gonna be released on yet?

There are 5 track remix promo cds available:

http://i22.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/b0/8f/1cf1_1.JPG

TRACKLISTING:
01. lp version
02. single edit
03. pete heller remix
04. oliver huntemann remix
05. oliver huntemann dub

and also 2 track ones with the first 2 tracks on also. But if this single is gonna be yet another download only release in mp3 then i'm not gonna be happy because that means im having to buy a promos on ebay because i dont want to buy downloads if i can help it.

track times on these are as follows:

pete heller remix - 7:33
hunteman dub - 7:26
hunteman remix - 8:35

the radio edit and LP version are as already stated on the two track cd single promo....




big screen satellite 08-22-2007 05:00 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
having listened to all the mixes now, except the Ame one which i assume has not been promoed yet... (i'd really like to hear that one...;) )

i can safely say its a nice varied set of mixes:

the radio edit is simply the song in it's purest form- short sweet and to the point - suitable for both the clubber and daytimeradio listener, whether it will get much daytime airplay is to be seen....

at 8:57 long, the LP version need not be any longer than the 6:30 it was originally chopped to on pitchfork or where it started out being streamed... the last two minutes are simple noodly ambient noises, nice but don't add anything whatsoever to the track overall - you are not missing anything having only heard the 6 minute version...

the hunteman mix, although showcasing Karl's vocal to better effect is a bit too minimal for my liking...

that said, i prefer the dub which is a bit better, as it sounds deeper and the beats and sounds don't get disrupted by Karl's lyrics... tbh both Hunteman mixes are growing on me with every listen...

the heller remix is actually not what i was expecting and to be honest, and i love PH, is not that good!!! its kinda formulaic and has lots of PH trademark sounds but these appear to be the same sounds he was using about 4 years ago... this mix is nothing like any of his Peggy Sussed mixes which were awesome... shame really because i thought he could have ramped it up on this one... Karl's vocals are clear, but the remix itself is pretty meh... three listens so far have not converted to me to this mix, and this was teh one i was most looking forward to...

i'll leave these to hear when you can - overall i'd score the 5 versions on this CD promo as 7.5/10

best mix - the LP version

Matt

big screen satellite 08-22-2007 05:10 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
btw, there is no release date info or format info on this CD despite a press release sheet...

Jan 08-22-2007 05:34 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Am I the only one who thinks that the LP version is too short as it 'cuts off' at ~4:55 like if somebody had pressed the reset button?

sloff 08-22-2007 05:42 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Anyone know who's doing the distributing and promo of new material in the States? Myself and the RPM director at WBNY want to make sure we get
something to play on the air waves. Help get the band get a good CMJ charting.
(as a bit of a side note there are still about 20 STITI stickers plastered around the studio)

sanakan 08-22-2007 06:25 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
from the uwlive links page: send danielle a mail: press `a~t' underworldlive.com.

sloff 08-22-2007 06:44 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Thank you. I guess I should have thought of looking there.

Dirty0900 08-22-2007 07:45 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
If the album is gonna leak, im guessing it will do so in the next few weeks. Or, they'll be more to buy on ebay or record shops.

gormster 08-22-2007 08:36 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
I'm not sure I even want to hear a leak. It'll probably be some bullshit 96kbps MP3, right? I can't stand to listen to that stuff. October isn't that long to wait.

Wonder when UW are coming to Sydney.

Dirty0900 08-22-2007 09:05 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gormster
I'm not sure I even want to hear a leak. It'll probably be some bullshit 96kbps MP3, right? I can't stand to listen to that stuff. October isn't that long to wait.

Wonder when UW are coming to Sydney.

Whens your Big Day Out festival?

gillenium 08-22-2007 08:44 PM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
I've been listening to this for a while, and I finally picked up on something. There's a sample of a crocodile call hidden in the precussion of the first fourth of the song. I wonder if the song is called Crocodile because of that sample or if the sample was put in because of the title...

viddy 08-23-2007 06:32 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
They seem to have done a great job at preventing a leak of the album. At this point, one might as well just wait for the physical album. My guess is they'll release the album on Underworldlive.com a few days/weeks before the CD for the impatient ones.

Yannick 08-23-2007 07:14 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
the 6:30 min version is the album version, the "simple noodly ambient noises" are part of beautiful burnout

big screen satellite 08-23-2007 07:43 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yannick
the 6:30 min version is the album version, the "simple noodly ambient noises" are part of beautiful burnout

ahhh ok... nice to know

thanks Yann'k

Tiger 08-23-2007 08:08 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
nice to see the boys back on form, listening to that really put a smile on my face and reminded me of the great times i've had with uw as a background. very excited about the gig in london now

Dirty0900 08-24-2007 07:19 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Shop i usually get promo stuff from said they hardly sent any promo stuff out, so it might be a while before any leak comes.

testudo 08-24-2007 07:30 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
I wonder if the limited number of promos will hurt the album sales? hmm...

I am curious how this new niche market (Uwlive 3.0) will play out... I hope it doesn't include joining a cult... oh wait I already am in one (dirties).

potatobroth 08-24-2007 07:52 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gillenium
I've been listening to this for a while, and I finally picked up on something. There's a sample of a crocodile call hidden in the precussion of the first fourth of the song. I wonder if the song is called Crocodile because of that sample or if the sample was put in because of the title...

is that the rattley noise?
i have no idea what a crocodile call sounds like :)

BrotherLovesDub 08-24-2007 10:04 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
to me this song is written from the perspective of a Croc in Austrailia. it's pretty easy to grasp really.

gillenium 08-24-2007 10:56 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by potatobroth
is that the rattley noise?
i have no idea what a crocodile call sounds like :)

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/cnhc/images/!amis4a.wav It first shows up about 55 seconds or so into the song. It goes away when Karl starts singing though.

luminary 08-24-2007 05:08 PM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BrotherLovesDub
to me this song is written from the perspective of a Croc in Austrailia. it's pretty easy to grasp really.

I thought it was a tribute to Steve Irwin :)

mmm skyscraper 08-26-2007 11:39 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/i...8154285&sr=8-1

bigger picture of the cover

stimpee 08-27-2007 11:50 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Well, the japs are getting a CD single anyway. I might just order the jap one along with the jap OWB cd+dvd+extratrack.

IsiliRunite 08-30-2007 11:56 PM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
I'm looking forward to this album more than almost anything else this year, except for maybe Three 6 Mafia. I hope it is released at a store near me.

mmm skyscraper 09-04-2007 04:23 PM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
The video is up on underworldlive.com

gillenium 09-04-2007 07:28 PM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
And, of course, they post it in a stream that my crappy internet can't handle. Sigh *waits for youtube version*

King of Snake 09-05-2007 12:19 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
nice video. Looks like Pricey is in there for a bit too. Why does Karl have his guitar when he doesn't actually play it anywhere in the song though? :)

And the single edit is weird I must say, they just completely cut out the climax of the song. What's up with that?

King of Snake 09-05-2007 12:29 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gillenium
And, of course, they post it in a stream that my crappy internet can't handle. Sigh *waits for youtube version*

or you could try this

should work if you have the latest version of quicktime

Dirty0900 09-05-2007 06:23 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Sorry, the video is total gash in my opinion. Total let down after some of UW's last videos. After seeing the blog of the director i thought it was going to be different views and cuts of the band playing the song. But one camera view is just a bit dull after a while, makes it hard to see what Rick and Pricey are doing. Yes Karl has to be the main focus seeing he is seen as the lead of the group, but the layering effect just gets to confusing and makes me want to switch it off. I just think theres to much going on and it'll piss people off more then anything. For a performance just standing there and pretending to play the song, it should have just seen them to a Top Of The Pops video. I know its a bit harsh, but seeing theres no radio play of the record, a decent video might have got them some publicty. I just think it'll sink without a trace.

foxlake 09-05-2007 08:27 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty0900
a decent video might have got them some publicty..

They need Publicity ? :)

Good surprise to discover this video, even if I don't think it is rather enchanting in comparison with the last clips. Maybe too much orientated "arty rock band"...But... I can't spit on a U.W video !.:D

dubman 09-05-2007 09:45 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
that was terrible.
like they just dicked around in a room and put on a light show.
and why is he holding a guitar??
it's not too confusing, it's not confusing enough. you can't have a single static shot while trying to make movement out of everything else, it just makes the light, the dancing, the performance, and all of the effects less interesting and, i don't know the right word... impactful?
i'm utterly disappointed. it may not be as ill advised as the dino3d video, but going cheap hasn't resulted in better product, it just looks really friggin cheap.

Chris M 09-05-2007 11:03 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
i've got mixed feelings about this one but, it does remind me a bit of the talking heads (burning down the house).

Dirty0900 09-05-2007 11:20 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foxlake
They need Publicity ? :)

Underworld are one of the biggest dance bands ever. When Chemical Brothers, Basement Jaxx and Prodigy came back with there last releases, i knew about it and not from reading about it on the internet. Singles were played on the radio and videos on music channels. Even Massive Attack has the single for there best off given a lot of publicity.

But where has the press been for Crocodile? Seriously, if i wasn't a fan i would not know about the song or album due to extreme lack of press. Possibly i would have heard through Tongs show, but i don't listen! I'm usually at work and the style he plays isn't really my thing.

Possibly leaving JBO/V2 was a bad move and it seems the push to the Japanese market is where there headed for guranteed success. We have no real info on a single, if its on CD, 12",7" if theres any b-sides and what mixes are on. Its frustrating getting info from the web when the main site is not active and full of old interviews and random text.

potatobroth 09-05-2007 11:24 AM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
i thought the video was alright. wasn't anything I'd watch over and over, but it was nice to look at once or twice. i thought certain parts were quite beautiful actually.

there are very very few videos that i would go gaga over these days. and those would have the budget of a summer movie or have been done by Michael Gondry.

foxlake 09-05-2007 12:27 PM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty0900
Underworld are one of the biggest dance bands ever. When Chemical Brothers, Basement Jaxx and Prodigy came back with there last releases, i knew about it and not from reading about it on the internet. Singles were played on the radio and videos on music channels. Even Massive Attack has the single for there best off given a lot of publicity.

I cannot pick up the buzz in the traditional media here (in France there is not really shows speaking abt music), but on Internet, which is THE main medium for the electronic music fan today, at present, Underworld and Daft Punk (for their live cd in november) are at the top of boards.

Born Slippy and Push Upstairs, had a big broadcasting, And for me, this is not their better tracks....... which are not comparable in style pop-rock of Prodigy or Basement' (which is broadcast in supermarkets here...:D)

Quote:

Possibly leaving JBO/V2 was a bad move and it seems the push to the Japanese market is where there headed for guranteed success
It is not there that everything takes place now? ...


Quote:

Its frustrating getting info from the web when the main site is not active and full of old interviews and random text.
completely agree :D

testudo 09-05-2007 12:34 PM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
welcome to the underworld niche market.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niche_market

BeautifulBurnout 09-05-2007 01:02 PM

Re: Underworld - The Crocodile Thread
 
I like the video. I like the concept, the overlaying, and the bizarre quasi-disco feel to it. I am not a big consumer of music videos these days in general, but this one pleases me.


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