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Andrea 10-12-2014 09:13 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
I thought in a small place like the RFH it would be more like a classical concert.
Seems like the hardcore U/W fans, those who like sophisticated soundscapes and lyrics are not many, obviously not even to fill the RFH.
Members of the South Bank Centre are not automatically people with certain musical or art maturity. Maybe that's why they felt they need to please with a floor-filler.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chippy (Post 157547)
I just wish people who were claiming to love the album would shut up during Tongue!

"Southbank Centre passionately believes the arts have the power to transform lives.", says the website.
Well, maybe there is some homework left to do. To learn people how to listen and enjoy music as art could be one.

BeautifulBurnout 10-12-2014 09:46 AM

Re: RFH aftermath thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorRad (Post 157545)
Wow, no-one got anything to say about the Royal Festival Hall gig? I'll kick off by saying we had a ball, I was rather disappointed they didn't play Spikee, and...

...there's at least one recording in the can!

Cheers,

Dr. Matt...

Not much I can say because after all that singing and shouting last night my dodgy throat is so bad this morning I can barely croak! :eek::D

As far as I am concerned this is the best Underworld gig I have ever seen. Everything was perfect. The sound quality was superb (apart from that blip in Minneapolis that gave rise to some classic comedy moments nonetheless, including the poor roadie who slipped and fell on his bum trying to fix it), the lighting was inspired, the minimalism of the art-work was spot on, the crowd were great and just hearing Dirty Epic played like that means I can die a happy woman (well, ok, my lurgey isn't actually that bad...)

BeautifulBurnout 10-12-2014 09:54 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markreed (Post 157548)
I wrote about last night :

http://www.thefinalword.co.uk/content/view/1285/35/

"It's like watching the music equivalent of Evel Knievel jump the grand canyon, in the Batmobile, whilst high fiving James Bond on a jetpack."

Nice one, :)

twicezero 10-12-2014 11:44 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Speaking of nuxx, I was kinda happy as it was a little like the DubNoVersion...

In the recorded version (and bootleg babies) It has rising note patterns through the second half. Instead last night's version has the beepy-drunk-trumpets that are all over the tramway 94 version (like the bit right at the start). I have no idea if it were deliberate...

I guess that's a little trainspottery...

thee carp dreamer 10-12-2014 11:47 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrea (Post 157553)
I thought in a small place like the RFH it would be more like a classical concert.
Seems like the hardcore U/W fans, those who like sophisticated soundscapes and lyrics are not many, obviously not even to fill the RFH.
Members of the South Bank Centre are not automatically people with certain musical or art maturity. Maybe that's why they felt they need to please with a floor-filler.



"Southbank Centre passionately believes the arts have the power to transform lives.", says the website.
Well, maybe there is some homework left to do. To learn people how to listen and enjoy music as art could be one.

Pretentious patronising nonsense. It was a far more enjoyable atmosphere and therefore gig than if the room had been full of seated chin strokers musing about the nuances of the wind sounds in Skyscraper.

markreed 10-12-2014 01:07 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
If you think the crowd was boring, you must have been outside the main hall. I've not see such a keen crowd in years.

Stickman 10-12-2014 01:23 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
I couldn't agree more with the above post. The crowd was amazing.
It was like the good old days of clubbing. Rez was amazing.

I certainly felt that a vast majority of the people there were Underworld fans and NOT casual RFH members.

Best atmoshpere of any Underworld gig ever!

Dirty Saint 10-12-2014 01:44 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
http://youtu.be/l7976roTVd0

My video from the final 5 mins of the concert. Can you spot yourself?

TheBang 10-13-2014 02:01 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Did Pricey perform with them at all?

whatmakesustick 10-13-2014 02:40 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBang (Post 157574)
Did Pricey perform with them at all?

He was on and off and stage - it was definitely the Rick and Karl show. Interestingly Karl sat at the side if the stage in clear view watching Rick perform surfboy and rez - kind of like he wanted him to have the 'limelight'.

And as I said earlier, best atmosphere and a London gig for ages.

dss 10-13-2014 05:51 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Hi all,

Long time lurker, formerly of this parish back in the brown era. I've seen UW in several formats over the years - there's the big festival UW, the smaller university tour UW, the academy tour level UW and the Karl Hyde mini UW - all of which have been different experiences. Saturday's gig was one of the most fun and enjoyable gigs I've seen them do. Watching Karl sitting at the side of the stage cheering Rick on during Surfboy and Rez is another example of why this band has always been about more than just the sublime music - there's love there. From the beautifully stark typography to the minimalist lightshow (I loved the rising sun during Bigmouth) and the chance to hear tracks we'd all never expected to hear live (especially after the run of disappointing setlists in the past couple of years), the whole show was staged perfectly, which quickly dispelled any fears of it being a boring, seated run through.

I'm still slightly suspicious of a laptop based set up that, to my mind, removes the opportunities for spontaneity that used to be so key to UW live, but that's a tiny gripe in an album run through format. Being up on the balcony meant we had a great view of what Rick was doing throughout and it's clearly a step forward from what was a fairly embarrassing set of KCRW videos, but it would be nice to see some more synths come back in to play. I really hope revisiting dubnobass... and who they were when they made it has an influence on the live direction they take in future. It's not necessarily about having Karl hoon it up and down the stage as he used to 15 / 20 years ago, but feeling part of a unique, live event has always been the appeal and that, to me, has been lost in the last 5 years or so.

But anyway, an awesome gig in a surprisingly appropriate venue. Roll on March!

Ninja Power 10-13-2014 09:53 AM

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Hey dss,

I think you pretty much nailed my exact feeling on the live setup over the last few years - they have changed from the early days no doubt, every tour brings its own unique "feel", venue, crowd, etc all play into it.

The Festival Hall gig was amazing, up there with Somerset House & Vienna (for me) , great sound, great crowd, stripped down visuals, cool security staff letting people do their thing (dance). I got a massive kick out of just seeing the varying age groups in the room - everyone got into the spirit and danced their socks off :)

Great to see Rick & Karl back in action after their Olympic hiatus - hopefully this will energise them further for more dates and future material. It's been an absolute honour to see these guys live and have their music as the soundtrack over the past 20 years. Thanks guys, you never fail to deliver the goods. Was lucky enough to bump into Rick before and after the gig, what a humble guy, had a nice chat, got an autograph for the kids (6 & 3) already fans - photo with Rick, the missus and myself. We couldn't have asked for more - the perfect night out.

regards
Will.

rioja_rioja 10-13-2014 10:16 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Another long time lurker and first time poster - thought you might like to see an awesome 20 seconds from the front :)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/chalet...t/15518824905/

Andrea 10-13-2014 11:58 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thee carp dreamer (Post 157560)
Pretentious patronising nonsense. It was a far more enjoyable atmosphere and therefore gig than if the room had been full of seated chin strokers musing about the nuances of the wind sounds in Skyscraper.

Oh, did I say something that hit you? English is not my native language so maybe that is why I'm so clumsy. Wasn't my meaning, sorry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Saint (Post 157563)
http://youtu.be/l7976roTVd0

My video from the final 5 mins of the concert. Can you spot yourself?

Lovely! Closest video so far, thank you!
I love him you know :)

jetpig 10-13-2014 12:06 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dss (Post 157577)
... it's clearly a step forward from what was a fairly embarrassing set of KCRW videos...

I really liked those videos... :(

I agree mostly about the barking tours as a whole but the KCRW video was a joy. It showed the chemistry of the two of them and I really liked watching karl come from being groggy and sick to ecstatic by the end. And that rendition of bird1... oh man.

potatobroth 10-13-2014 12:34 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jetpig (Post 157581)
but the KCRW video was a joy. It showed the chemistry of the two of them and I really liked watching karl come from being groggy and sick to ecstatic by the end. And that rendition of bird1... oh man.

which KCRW vids?

Edit: found it!

crankphoto 10-13-2014 12:56 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
I too got a set list from the mixing desk, we were the first into the auditorium from the left and the guy in the red tee said I could have one at the end. 3rd set list from an uw gig.

Sonically, the event was great, though certainly more heavy on the bass and dance vibes than the album. Reminded of the tramway recording. It was euphoric, fast and slow and very rich in texture. The projection just added to the tomato vibe, simple, though I don't know if many of you needed a reminder of the track.

Never thought I'd see Minneapolis or Bigmouth live, both amazing, and the amount of tracks played that had no vocals from Karl was a surprise, great Harmonica from Karl

I thought the crowd were great, seemed like they knew the tracks - not just lucky with tickets or RFH pre - pre sales. "Christ on Crutches" was the loudest crowd response by far.

Amazing gig and experience in a tiny venue, we made a proper weekend of it, class hotel and swanky meal on the Sunday.

Picked up a Rez disc, a t-shirt and gig poster - they gave a freebie red bag too. We acquired a RFH event insert, the ones at the door to the venue. Very accommodating staff.

Thanks guys, see you in March at Manchester, think this is smaller capacity than 2.5 k

DaddyAdv 10-13-2014 01:08 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crankphoto (Post 157583)
I "Christ on Crutches" was the loudest crowd response by far.

see here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnOqDXUbWDg

And some pre-NUXX comedy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGt9THuU1rc

markreed 10-13-2014 01:38 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Yes, Darren was largely doing the between song stuff, so removing the paper synth lists and making sure all the kit had booted up correctly and the patches etc were loaded. He was probably on stage for a minute per song.

(Talking of which there is a fascinating shot around 41 minutes into the KCRW video where you can see the sample discs Rick uses for his sounds)

qirex 10-13-2014 01:58 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
anyone have pics of the merch?

markreed 10-13-2014 02:22 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
It was fairly boring merch tbh : the £50 box set, the vinyl, yellow Rez 12", three Art Prints as a set at £100, a gig poster, and a dubnobass shirt. Some of the dubnobass shirt had the date/ venue on the back, and I missed out on the shirt.

Lx_Nen 10-13-2014 03:01 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Also... fridgemagnets!

TheBang 10-13-2014 04:38 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markreed (Post 157585)
(Talking of which there is a fascinating shot around 41 minutes into the KCRW video where you can see the sample discs Rick uses for his sounds)

Actually, the collection of samples is on Karl's desk, and he triggers them with his CD-J. Here's a better picture of them:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...40ee7ac07129c9

khouri 10-13-2014 06:38 PM

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The crowd was astonishing. Truly "good vibrations" as Karl likes to say. I've seen this band 10+ times and I've never felt energy from the crowd like I did in London - and for music everyone knew by heart. Brilliant audience. No topping it.

whatmakesustick 10-14-2014 02:19 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Another good review review:

http://www.tntmagazine.com/entertain...all-october-11

whatmakesustick 10-14-2014 02:20 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markreed (Post 157588)
It was fairly boring merch tbh : the £50 box set, the vinyl, yellow Rez 12", three Art Prints as a set at £100, a gig poster, and a dubnobass shirt. Some of the dubnobass shirt had the date/ venue on the back, and I missed out on the shirt.

They also had 10 sets of proofs of the prints (£150)...

TheBang 10-14-2014 05:28 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twicezero (Post 157559)
In the recorded version (and bootleg babies) It has rising note patterns through the second half. Instead last night's version has the beepy-drunk-trumpets that are all over the tramway 94 version (like the bit right at the start). I have no idea if it were deliberate...

That siren sound had regular appearances at the end of Nuxx from 94-99. It's had scant cameos since then, but it sounds like Rick's brought it back (or a recreation of it, since it doesn't quite sound the same) recently for some nostalgia.

crank 10-14-2014 06:36 AM

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Gosh- i wonder if we'll get to hear it in the comfort of our own headphones? :)

negative1 10-14-2014 01:31 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
i understand the rationale behind the show, and doing the tracks as they are on the album.

they sound good, and from the clips they did a great job on them.


however, for the last several years, i fear they have gone away from what made them
exciting as a live band. doing improvs. and that saddens me.

listening to the early shows, and even the one jam on the boxset shows they have the
capability to do a lot more than just individual songs.

maybe next year they will consider that.

in the meantime, getting a recording or if they make a dvd, watching it once would be
enough for this type of show. because it will not change much.

later
-1

markreed 10-14-2014 01:49 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Having seen the show, I assure everyone that if there is a live recording / dvd etc, that it will be worth watching and rewatching : it isn't just "album in full", but a recreation of the record using new instrumentation and kit, with many live debuts and very rarely played songs... and a crowd as fervent as any show of theirs I have seen.

markreed 10-14-2014 01:53 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
And look what was uploaded to YewToob an hour ago? The unusual ending to Minnaepolis... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8suAf8uXE

Mike 10-14-2014 02:24 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Yup thats my video. The only video I got on the night, sadly. I was tempted to record Surfboy, but I wanted to enjoy it and I saw plenty of cameras recording at the time, I thought one of those would end up on YouTube... however no sign of it yet!!

Anyway, I have updated the Gigography http://uwlive.rowla.com/gigs/view/496

Any photos people would like to share for the gallery, please send them my way!

markreed 10-14-2014 02:38 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Who maintains the gigography? I found some old setlists I kept at the time (Wolverhampton 1999, Brixton 2002) and want to add those in.

Lx_Nen 10-14-2014 04:09 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Not really a gig photo, but this was the view from my front row seat.

http://i.imgur.com/S4PJBho.jpg

My ears took a while to recover.

negative1 10-14-2014 05:19 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 157613)
Anyway, I have updated the Gigography http://uwlive.rowla.com/gigs/view/496

Any photos people would like to share for the gallery, please send them my way!

thanks for the update.

i'm keeping totals here:
------------------------------
http://www.borndirty.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18072

will update next march.

you might want to put in the notes, that this the first time
some of those tracks have been played.

later
-1

jetpig 10-14-2014 06:06 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
I really like the clean look to these visuals, suits the clean nature to this remaster.

Mike 10-15-2014 02:02 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markreed (Post 157614)
Who maintains the gigography? I found some old setlists I kept at the time (Wolverhampton 1999, Brixton 2002) and want to add those in.

I maintain the Gigography. PM any info you have to me.

Dunwho 10-15-2014 02:54 PM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Hi there,

So I got about 30 shots I am half happy with and I have shared them on my Flickr here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidd...7648378984668/

I had my long lens but was told by staff to put it away after The first song. So I snuck it out once Rez started up and grabbed a good few more before the end of the show.

I tend to prefer to enjoy the gig rather than shoot throughout so it wasn't too shit to have to put it away, I grabbed a few extra shots on the iPhone anyway.

Had a great night and it was nice to meet a lot of the Dirts before and after. Aesome gig and very different from anything else I will ever see from them.


As a side thing, I also have some nice shots from the Dublin gig during the Barking tour, I think Stimpee was at this one also (in the snow!): https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidd...7625481867532/

bazwint 10-16-2014 05:48 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 157606)
however, for the last several years, i fear they have gone away from what made them
exciting as a live band. doing improvs. and that saddens me.

listening to the early shows, and even the one jam on the boxset shows they have the
capability to do a lot more than just individual songs.

maybe next year they will consider that.

in the meantime, getting a recording or if they make a dvd, watching it once would be
enough for this type of show. because it will not change much.

Agree 100%. Saturday was ok and had some great moments, but could have been so much better. And, staff aside, what a ridiculous venue to choose.

amoe 10-16-2014 05:52 AM

Re: 2014-10-11 Royal Festival Hall
 
Just wanna say it was great to meet the dirts, amazing bunch. Gig was phenomenal as everyone here said. It passed in the blink of an eye for me. Can't wait to hear the recording, and I really hope an official video does end up getting released, even though that might be a pipedream.


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