Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

That's an affirmative!

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

i don't think i've ever heard this one. i have the live broadcast with air towel and that but i think my main attitude when they mentioned the misterons was "what even is that, i don't care" so it passed me by...

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

Well, aren't you in for a treat?

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

Has anything resembling a tracklist appeared?

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

I don't think anything officially has been posted.

But, this is how I separated the tracks

Spoonman (Alt) - 9:29
Dark & Long (Alt) - 5:39
Mmm... Skyscraper? - 12:36
Dirty (Alt) - 15:20
Dirty (Ambiance) - 5:25
Mother Earth (Long Version) - 10:27

It'd be great to know what the actual tracks are - like, I'm curious if that song with the 'Skyscraper-ish' beats actually has a name, plus I hate just using "Alt" to differentiate mixes

Also - thanks for bringing this thread up, I hadn't listened to this mix in a long time!

I wasn't a huge fan of the first 10-15 minutes, so I didn't really listen to it until I figured out how to split mp3's

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

I think perhaps Bang is teasing us with some advanced knowledge...

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

some of these mixes appeared on the dubnobass super deluxe set didn't they?

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

IIRC there's a similar version of Spoonman on the Dubnobass... deluxe, but not quite the same as the one on the Cutting Room Floor mix.

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

The version of Dark & Long (I think) did appear as a free download on UWlive at one point before the release of this mix. Did that have a title?

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oh yeah - I forgot about that...

I just did a quick comparison, and I think you're right - it is the same version

the download was titled: Dark and Long (Dark Train Jam)

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Anyone here have a Soundcloud Go account??? I heard that Go members get higher streaming quality. Has anyone with a Go account tried ripping Saved From The Cutting Room Floor Mix? I heard Go is 256kbps instead of the usual 128kbps. If possible, figure the best we can get. I wish UW would put it up on their Bandcamp. Tried tagging them and messaging them suggesting it.

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

Well, shit. It worked.

https://www.borndirty.org/wp-content...-165709350.m4a

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

:insert holy shit face:

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

THANK YOUUUUUUU :bows:

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

markedly improved. Many thanks!

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Thanks for the upgrade! This Skyscraper jam is really top notch, always blows me away that this is the stuff that *didn't* make the cut.

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

HOLY SHIT

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

am i missing something.

it's the same music.
yeah, in better quality, which i appreciate.

but, i guess if you've never heard it before.

later
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Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

It's better quality than the old 128kbps. Soundcloud claims their 256 AAC is equivalent to 320. But many of us want this in the best possible quality we can get. And this update is a step in that direction. Hopefully Rick and Karl will surprise us one day with proper lossless. But this is a nice upgrade.

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Haha, yeah, I suspect the crapping of pants is mostly from first time listeners. This was released almost 6 years ago. I relistened to my 128 kbs version burnt into CD (!! Old skool roll), then the new rip. Pants weren't crapped. Sure, a better fidelity is always appreciated. I guess I spent too many years listening to 64 kbs bootlegs full of crowd noise to be too bothered. As long as the listening experience is enjoyable, without artifacts or distraction or distortion, I'm not too concerned about the bitrate, format or tracking down the best, biggest lossless version. The human ear can only discern so much, and as we all know, remastered doesn't always mean better (brick walls and all). Still, thanks for the new rip. Great mix, as it was and is! I possibly crapped for joy in 2014 from this essential mix!

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I've listened to this thing many times over the years and I found the fidelity upgrade really profound. Might just be my ears, of course. But I was really delighted.

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Yup, definitely sounds better. You'd be surprised of the big difference between 128kbps to 256kbps. The lower the kbps the more crushed and claustrophobic it sounds. The rip we had cut off around 16khz, this one goes to 21khz. It makes a difference.

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Ok, audiophiles. I know it's better, it sounds nice. It did 4 years back, too. That's all. It's an upgrade, appreciated, but let's not go insane.
And this is old news, but 128 to 256 mbs is not that discernible an improvement:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...-256-kbps.html

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My bad, meant to say 256AAC. Technically, this is an M4A file and Soundcloud Go is 256AAC, which is the equivalent to a 320kbps. Before, ripping from Soundcloud online, you'd get a 128kbps file. This is why we're getting 21-22khz now if you have a Go account.

"256 AAC is equivalent, if not slightly better than 320 MP3. The high-frequency encoding is more efficient (more faithful to the original audio)."

Hence the audible difference. So, yes, those who want this in the best possible quality, there is reason to be excited. Is it ok for us to be happy?

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Stop policing my amazing hearing!

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I wish you total happiness in all your UW listening experiences and am sorry I ever doubted your discerning ears! 😜

And yes, it is a fantastic mix, regardless of the bitrate. I grew up appreciating whatever I got, especially for free.

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Personally i'm used to the 128, but of course higher can sound better.
I've never been an audiophile. So even uncompressed 192/48 bluray
audio is better, but I don't have the equipment for it.

I used to listen to things on headphones a lot more in the 90's, and 00's.
But in the 10's, and 20's, i usually just listen on the computer, or in the car.

So, all this audio improvement isnt really that noticeable. And I don't have that
great of an audio system in my car (or previous one). I had a ghetto USB
speaker system that I used to hook up to my phone for playback.

Currently I am using car speakers, hooked up to a USB (Cassette player shaped) MP3
player (that uses microSD cards - how retro is that).

I got tired of choosing playlists through my phone, so I custom select tracks for the
microSD card, and switch them like albums or short playlists on the USB player.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1001_.jpg

convoluted, i know. but it works for me.

later
-1

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 with a 256gb SD card and Poweramp Pro loaded. Poweramp is a great music player, which can handle and output 24 bit audio if your phone has the capability for 24 bit playback like the Note 4. Since my car stereo ain't that amazing, but it does have a stereo 1/8" in, I load the SD card AND phone data with 320kbps MP3s. Most of them are 44khz and some are 48khz if they were converted from 24 bit files with 48+khz. This allows me to have a shit ton of music on me at all times while I am out. I do plan on picking up a bigger SD card.

As for headphones, I have Audio Technica ATH-M50Xs.

For home stereo listening, I use my studio computer with a Roland MX-1 24/96 audio interface/mixer into Tannoy Reveal 802 studio monitors, which sound lovely.

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I've done listening tests and I can't tell the difference between 256kbps mp3 and FLAC, so going a step further into 24/48 and such would be a total waste of time and money for me. I'm much more interested in the tunes than the sound quality over a certain point anyway.

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isn't it bizarre how almost no phones, have a headphone jack anymore.

i don't think i ever want to listen to bluetooth audio, or wireless. its just sounds like a hassle.

one of the reason i still use an ancient windows 7 phone, is it has
a headphone jack, and outputs at full volume to headphones and speakers.

i have a newer phone that i don't use that has a headphone jack, but the
output is terrible.

later
-1

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

Yea, it really sucks the way phones are going, like we're going backwards. I also stay away from bluetooth. I recently picked up a Samsung Galaxy Tab S5E tablet in which you have to use a converter cable from the charger input that has an 1/8" jack.

Re: Saved from the cutting room floor mix* - Underworld vs The Misterons
 

I'm pretty certain this message board now discusses bitrates and lossy / lossless audio more than it does Underworld

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Haha, I know! Well, we all need something to collect or improve upon in these crazy times.

But I really shouldn't have entered the fray...I was a 21 year old grad student listening to a CD player while the 18 year olds had new iPods. Old fart! I was fine with whatever bitrate I could download freely as long as it was listenable. I'm still pissed that my 2017 model car has no CD player and I have to rip to a USB (Bluetooth is poop). Where's the spontaneity of picking a daily album to listen to on your commute?

But I get it, we want and expect a certain quality now. Sure, I don't want to listen to music that sounds like crap. But as I said above, the latest remasters are often unlistenable, too. And as a producer, I'm very appreciative of anything released for free. Look, if you first heard "Born Slippy" on a dubbed cassette, a FLAC file might make your week. Or, you might always associate that first listen with the fidelity of it's time. I'm not interested in debating which "sounds better". Our listening experiences are unique.

By the way, been listening to digital versions of tracks from artists I first heard on some lo fi cassette dubs. Yeah, I hear new elements, but mostly I just enjoy the rediscovery and nostalgia. Upgrades are nice but the format debate is old and boring.