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jetpig 04-28-2014 12:36 PM

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Now includes this bolded correction at the top:

Quote:

Correction April 28, 2014

An earlier version of this story referred to Karl Hyde as a "former" member of Underworld. He is still the frontman for that group.

mickstafa 04-28-2014 12:43 PM

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Must have been edited since. :)

Andrea 04-28-2014 03:36 PM

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The first thing I did was to start to sing when I heard To Us All.
Beautiful!

holden 04-28-2014 08:23 PM

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Oh dear.

Well, not much else happening, so here's a track-by-track review, FWIW.

Opening track "Satellites" is interesting for all of 28 seconds, until the mess of Casio Brass heads in. Around 2 minutes, when Karl and Brian start singing, my thoughts are - first, their voices don't really compliment each other, and two, why does the bassline sound like farts?

Tried "Daddy's Car" again...managed to like the first 50 seconds into this one, thanks to the beat, though the synthbass line was pretty dated... and then, brass nonsense and "oooh" chorals again. Can't take Karl's vocals seriously with Wang Chung playing in the background.

"Man Wakes Up": Dated, phased keyboards with "oo" "oo" effects - reminds me of a Was (Not Was) outtake. Again, Karl's vocals (and presumably guitar) is diminished to a the least common denominator of what we know he's capable of.

"Witness" - melody's okay, but the repeated vocals and guitar/piano feature was a bit cloying to start Stick with it and it the female vocal recalls Lemon Interrupt/UW mkii "Eclipse" era. This one straddles the line between annoying and catchy.

"Strip it Down" - Starts with a simple one-note bass, two note guitar figure (with some flourishes), then layers on the (synth) piano and extra guitar riffs... has some potential till the vocal again. I'm not sure; "Edgeland" was pleasant enough, but i think i prefer when Karl's vocals are more monotonous/vocoded. I just don't love the more "traditional" melodies herein. Still, some interesting counterpoints.

"Mother of a Dog" - i have nothing nice to say, so i will say nothing more on this.

"Who Rings the Bell" - ok, i kind of like how the one note guitar evolves into three-note pattern and overlaps the growing effect. Maybe "Who barks like a dog?" reminds me of "Dogman Go Woof", but this almost evokes Dubno era mkii for me (though Mother of a Dog does not! Some dogs are just dogs). Anyway, fairly pleasant, minus the chorus near the end.

"When I Built This World" - err, dated sounds and single one-note patterns again. Really odd key shift in the second minute, and the effect on Karl's vocal is unusual.... then, ~1:40 in, it's time to lay on the brass again. This track is a mess. Is it for a Halloween Spooky Sound Effects album? Is it an Erasure out-take? Were the vocals stolen from Depeche Mode during a creative dry-spell? Oh, it's bizarre, and not in a good way.

Thank goodness, the album closer "To Us All" - kinda nice guitar figures, recalling the "Sunshine" soundtrack noodles (What were they called? "Mercury" or "Jelly Blue"?) - the vocals are forgettable, and one of the vocal tracks (can't tell if Karl or Brian) is screamed a bit out of tune with the other. Otherwise, it's uplifting, but ends very suddenly.

Overall, i stand by my prior assertion that these tracks are snippets that don't really constitute finished tracks, and the majority of them sound really dated. Eno revisiting Roxy Music, Karl remembering UW mki. Sure, vintage and retro is cool, sometimes, but a lot of the 80's music still sounds cheesy, and these synth-heavy tracks with uber-earnest vocals about nothing recall that forgettable musical era.

Again, i think both artists are extremely gifted, but these tracks sound incomplete or, overly-layered with really simple patterns in an attempt to disguise incompleteness. Not every idea needs recorded.

testudo 04-29-2014 04:19 AM

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For anyone missing the VERY old days of Underworld (Mark 1). This album is sort of a "what if..." It is a time machine into a past that never was. As if Karl was under the direction of Mr. Eno in the early eighties.

Andrea 04-30-2014 05:49 PM

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Oh come on, it is not so bad. But Eno should definitely not sing.
That short distorted guitar part in Mother of A Dog is really awesome.

crank 05-01-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrea (Post 156500)
Oh come on, it is not so bad. But Eno should definitely not sing.
That short distorted guitar part in Mother of A Dog is really awesome.

"It's not that bad" should be applied to groups that don't have the cache that Underworld and Eno of built. This is merely okay and wouldn't have been released had Hyde's or Eno's name been attached.

I'm a fan, but there are just some things that should stay on the table as possible ideas then get fleshed out a bit better. Passengers is a great example of a a collaboration Eno did with u2. This one, not so much.

Andrea 05-01-2014 03:27 PM

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"not that bad" or "merely okay" - Well, my english is not so good so I don't know the difference.
Anyway, I'm just judging what I hear today regardless of their background.

holden 05-01-2014 10:00 PM

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I still don't think this album is "merely okay" or "not bad". It's actually pretty bad. Unless you yearn for the sounds of mid-eighties synthpop, this is very disappointing. Two great creative minds have collaborated before (Pure Scenious, and "beebop hurry") to fine results. Here, its just a mess...really simple melodies get layered with cheesy keys, obvious lyrics are stretched thin.
Sorry, I love UW and all prior side projects, but won't be buying this.

Andrea 05-02-2014 11:37 AM

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You know, I think that was exactly their intention.
It sounds like they made it for themselves and their friends just for fun. So why take it so seriously? Everyone has the right to have fun, even those with famous names.
But Mother Of A Dog has a bridge (or whatever it is called right efter the verse) with a distorted guitar. That sound combination is outstanding and the only one similar to some U/W creation. Even though it´s very short it makes the whole track to No. 1 on the album for me.
There is some similar, less developed sound in Witness accompanying the female spoken words... but that´s it.
The intro in Strip It Down is also interseting but it´s fading very fast.
To Us All is sweet like Lousiana. I have some ideas for a verse before the vocals but it´s just for fun so I will most probably keep it for myself :D

potatobroth 05-02-2014 02:24 PM

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After listening to the samples on iTunes, the only two tracks I'm interested in hearing more of are To Us All and Mother of a Dog.

Lx_Nen 05-02-2014 04:57 PM

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2 great musical geniuses have somehow combined to totally neutralise each other. Some albums have that one boring track that you skip, that should just have been a b-side with something better on the a... this album has 9 of those.

The packaging of the 2CD version is really nice, and that's about all I can say about it.

I've filed it on a CD shelf. I can't really see me ever picking it up again.

Mike 05-02-2014 10:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrea (Post 156505)
You know, I think that was exactly their intention.
It sounds like they made it for themselves and their friends just for fun. So why take it so seriously?

Hmm theres a difference between having fun and releasing a commercial album. If they are having fun, then it should be a free download. Fans have an expectation, and sadly they have missed the mark in this case.

purlieu 05-03-2014 08:44 AM

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Well, I suppose somebody has to, so I'll chime in with positive remarks - I absolutely love this. The melodies are quite simple and poppy, but also big and pretty, which I like. The whole thing makes me smile and has a great energy to it. Edgeland meets early Eno pop stuff meets Eno/Byrne Afrobeat inspired stuff, all things I really like.

jetpig 05-03-2014 04:55 PM

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Of what I've heard so far, it's OK. It's not my typical fare, and doesn't really ring me particularly, but I've certainly heard worse. It will definitely be in my collection, but I don't see myself returning too terribly often, espescially with all the other choices they've each provided me over the years. I don't think it's either party's best work, but I'd be remiss to say it's out and out awful. It's a nice glimpse into where Karl's head is these days, though.

Andrea 05-04-2014 04:37 AM

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Yes, it´s interesting to hear the typical Karl Hyde sound and essence. I even hear some similarities to Edgeland here and there. More difficult to hear Eno´s contribution, except his vocals of course, but I don´t know his work so well.
Guys, could you please tell me which track/which part is afrobeat? Just so I understand what that means. Many thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike (Post 156508)
Hmm theres a difference between having fun and releasing a commercial album. If they are having fun, then it should be a free download. Fans have an expectation, and sadly they have missed the mark in this case.

Maybe they just want new fans or most likely fans of their work and not of some specific music genre. But it´s only my guess.

stimpee 05-04-2014 08:10 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z266fEx7LAo

Eno • Hyde - Someday World studio film



This film was shot in Brian Eno's studio during the second day of rehearsals to explore the potential of Someday World songs in the live setting. It features performance excerpts of the single 'Daddy's Car' and album track 'When I Built This World'.

Film Credits:

Band:
Keyboards/vocals: Brian Eno
Guitar/Vocals: Karl Hyde
Keyboards/vocals: Fred Gibson
Guitar: Leo Abrahams
Guitar: Justin Adams
Bass: Abi Bailey
Drums: Chris Vatalaro
Percussion: Emmanuel Adelabu
Keyboards vocals: Don E

Crew:
Editing and Additional Sound Design: Adam Saewitz
Sound: Martin Harrison
Programming: Peter Chilvers
Band Production Manager: Andy James
Director of Photography: Conall Freeley
Camera: Sophie Ziegler, Elizabeth Kinder, Russell Weekes

testudo 05-05-2014 08:02 AM

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Not sure if this was mentioned but they are playing a Maida Vale session

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b042rcqs

marcolphus 05-06-2014 11:33 PM

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I like this album. It's so 80s... Most vocals are really good, and some parts reminds me of Underworld (Witness, When I Built This World). Daddy's Car is really brilliant, especially bass line... I like it.

It's better than 'Barking' (worst UW album IMHO) and far much better than 'Edgeland' (which I don't like at all).

jetpig 05-08-2014 09:43 PM

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http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/0...someday-world/

Generally echoes a lot of the feelings around here. A lot of stuff that could have been better.

dubnobasswithme 05-09-2014 09:53 PM

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Still trying to decide what I think about the album, but I can confidently say that I really like the double gatefold packaging for the LP version. It's going to look cool framed on the wall :)

Andrea 05-10-2014 04:50 AM

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If you have any doubts you should listen to the BBC 6 recording a couple of times, suddenly the CD version turns out to be massive.
It´s like magic, like lowering the world record and start from scratch without doping. :D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01ynbfx

Interesting is that Sony is doing it the other way around with MJ´s new album.
As I understand this is the original recording of A Place Without No Name:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x18...-no-name_music
Yet the Timberlake version of Love Never Felt So Good is more developed.

Now it definitely feels like Earthvision Song Contest :D:D:D

TheBang 05-10-2014 05:06 AM

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I kind of like the tweaks they did to Daddy's Car live.

Andrea 05-11-2014 04:12 AM

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Unique indeed

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/...02299076_n.jpg

lloyd 05-13-2014 03:20 PM

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Jools Holland show right now
http://www.stream2watch.me/live-tv/bbc-2-live-stream
(prolly popup hell)

khouri 05-13-2014 04:40 PM

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Really quite bad, I think. Seems very obviously cobbled together from leftover bits they both had lying around and lyrics that sound like they were written and sung within the same 20 minute period without any further consideration. There's a few cool noises and rhythms here and there but they're quickly molested or otherwise underdeveloped.

The BBC interview suggested that Eno and Karl went out of their way to make the album as unmusical as possible while still retaining some semblance of a pop structure. Well, most people call those 'bad songs.'

I love both of these artists but I think left to their own devices, they're probably too... I hesitate to use the word pretentious, but it's hard not to after hearing how weirdly they manipulated the creative process was... but yeah, too pretentious for their own good. Eno needs strong collaborators with strong points of view to focus his enormous talents and I think after Edgeland and Someday World, we can say the same about Karl too.

Earlier in the thread someone said two musical geniuses collided to cancel each other out and I agree completely. They really seem to have brought out only the worst qualities in each other, and it's disheartening to hear them talk about how thrilled they both are with the experience and the results. This album is meandering, noodly, cloying and at times actually dissonant, and not in the good way.

I mean, god bless them, this is their life and their work and they can do what they like, but it's definitely not the sort of thing I'm interested in hearing more of.

qirex 05-14-2014 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by khouri (Post 156538)
Really quite bad, I think. Seems very obviously cobbled together from leftover bits they both had lying around and lyrics that sound like they were written and sung within the same 20 minute period without any further consideration. There's a few cool noises and rhythms here and there but they're quickly molested or otherwise underdeveloped.

The BBC interview suggested that Eno and Karl went out of their way to make the album as unmusical as possible while still retaining some semblance of a pop structure. Well, most people call those 'bad songs.'

I love both of these artists but I think left to their own devices, they're probably too... I hesitate to use the word pretentious, but it's hard not to after hearing how weirdly they manipulated the creative process was... but yeah, too pretentious for their own good. Eno needs strong collaborators with strong points of view to focus his enormous talents and I think after Edgeland and Someday World, we can say the same about Karl too.

Earlier in the thread someone said two musical geniuses collided to cancel each other out and I agree completely. They really seem to have brought out only the worst qualities in each other, and it's disheartening to hear them talk about how thrilled they both are with the experience and the results. This album is meandering, noodly, cloying and at times actually dissonant, and not in the good way.

I mean, god bless them, this is their life and their work and they can do what they like, but it's definitely not the sort of thing I'm interested in hearing more of.

I couldn't put my finger on why I can't get into these solo projects but this was right on point and beautifully stated.

jetpig 05-14-2014 11:38 AM

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While I rather dig edgelands, I miss hearing ricky... Speaking of, did anyone watch babylon beyond the pilot?

TheBang 05-14-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jetpig (Post 156540)
Speaking of, did anyone watch babylon beyond the pilot?

The rest of the series has not aired yet.

lloyd 05-15-2014 01:00 PM

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http://www.deadline.com/2014/05/sund...lon-uk-series/

Fall 2014 for UKs Channel 4
2015 on Sundance

kagenaki koe 05-19-2014 08:05 PM

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so, anybody else receive two mailings of their order? Received a second about a week after receiving Someday World, except it was only an empty mailer. it's like they wasted postage just to send me a piece of cardboard:p (unless there was something else they were supposed to be sending)


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