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King of Snake 05-15-2010 11:32 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
why would KCRW add in gunshots?

bryantm3 05-15-2010 11:44 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
sounds like 'still alive' at the end of the video game portal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI

it might warm up on me but the vocoder effects are really bothering me. the music is good.

rudydaduck 05-15-2010 11:47 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
censoring? so tired of @#@$%&!!

e.g. so tired of horseshit.... something not radiofriendly like that....

also regarding to vocal.... not sounding like karl .... is it possible that its not karl based and simply purely machine based..... not filtered human but pure mechanism... pure synth. kraftwerk ymo like the the high pitched tremolo voices repeating wir fahren auf der Autobahn in harmony in the middle of that song?

just thoughts.

i love this song. sounds like a person on an above ground train traveling the city, staring out the window, yes, in despair, yes feeling helpless, watching the city turn by, shades of sunflares whipping across. beaten, hopeful, buyt barely.

rudydaduck 05-15-2010 11:59 AM

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would also like to point out that this sounds like a cross between winjer and 8ball to me both in sound and themes.

with respect to gunshots again... especially them sounding off key.... spike jones' son said in an interview once that he felt his father and his fathers music never received the respect they deserverd because people did not realize how much work went into it nor did they get how much of a genius his father was.. "I mean my father realized that if you're gonna replace the last word in a line of a song with a gunshot and the song is in Bflat you have to replace it with a gunshot in B flat." (paraphrased but you get the point)

holden 05-15-2010 12:02 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
hmm, good point about the gunshots maybe censoring something out. They aren't particularly a great element to the song, and i think what bothers me is that the effects are pretty identically repeated...seems kind of lazy.

But - i went walking in the rain this morning (it's pouring in Houston) and "Good Day today" was a perfect score. It's gone from "gross" to "great" in 12 hrs, maybe 10 listens.
I can imagine this being an anthem for many mornings' commutes to work!

King of Snake 05-15-2010 12:51 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
well during the first (low pitched) gunshot you can also hear that the kick and snaredrum are left out for a beat for effect, which they couldn't have edited at KCRW. I dunno, it sounds like they are part of the original song to me.

kagenaki koe 05-15-2010 01:09 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
the gunshots in the song Paper Planes by MIA isn't censorship, and i don't think it's the same in this instance either.

BrotherLovesDub 05-15-2010 01:13 PM

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the 'gunshots are added by kcrw' and 'this isn't underworld' arguments are completely ridiculous. listen harder guys.

rudydaduck 05-15-2010 01:15 PM

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they are more clearly justified in mia's song i think. not saying that they are or are not intentional, just proposing a possibility.

plenty of songs use gunshots and other effects. i am not talking about those. just this song and its possibilities. if they are in there certainly violence at home and abroad in the news and in entertainment may be contributing to the speaker's malaise.... melancholy.... whats great is we are all interested in this song. in this music.

ive yet to hear someone say "i'm done. tuning out." this is very nice.:)

cacophony 05-15-2010 05:30 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
i'm still not convinced. there was a ton of hype and promotion around scribble's release, and it was well thought out and marketed. this is some random song appearing in a playlist on a state-side NPR station. no mention from the band, no reference to it on the website.

i'm more than happy to be proven wrong if it's on the album when it's released or if someone finds confirmation. but until then i remain dubious.

i mean come on, how many of us have been listening to karl's vocal style for the majority of our adult lives? he doesn't just have a tone that can be masked with a vocoder. he has a particular pronunciation and enunciation quality that's unique to him alone. speaking or singing, when you hear karl you KNOW it's karl. but on this song we're debating it. i just don't feel karl's linguistic fingerprint on it. like i said, i could be totally wrong and i'm just looking for a flaw because i dislike the song. but even my husband, who isn't a fraction of a fan i am, said it didn't sound like karl's delivery style.

so i don't know. he could be trying something new and trying to step out of his "voice." but it's just not clicking with me with the same certainty that some of the rest of you have.

BrotherLovesDub 05-15-2010 06:48 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
dc_04 first mentioned this yesterday morning.

http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forum...30&postcount=5

I think if you listen to it enough times, you'll realize it most certainly is Underworld. There are very telling signs.

First clue. The pulsing synth pad is total Underworld. At 0:57/2:21/3:32 there's an added percussive pattern that just feels like Rick Smith. The vocal is just heavily processed. It sounds like Karl's brand of optimism to me. I also believe they gave that track to Morning Becomes Eclectic because the show is extremely popular and listened to around the globe. Their web audience is probably larger than their audience in the LA area. The vibe of Good Day Today is right for the station. Finally, google Good Day Today and the artist Underworld. See? Google it without Underworld and just add 'song' or 'radio' add 'myspace' to see if it's been posted to some other band's myspace. It's not there. It's Underworld.

dc_04 05-15-2010 06:48 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
fwiw, 'morning becomes eclectic' isn't just any 'playlist' on any 'state-side NPR station'.

it's arguably the most important music broadcast in north america, and over the years the hosts have been the first to break just about every act you can think of.

i'd say the chances of it being a 'fake' are slim to none.

- dc

bryantm3 05-15-2010 06:53 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cacophony (Post 121800)
i'm still not convinced. there was a ton of hype and promotion around scribble's release, and it was well thought out and marketed. this is some random song appearing in a playlist on a state-side NPR station. no mention from the band, no reference to it on the website.

i'm more than happy to be proven wrong if it's on the album when it's released or if someone finds confirmation. but until then i remain dubious.

i mean come on, how many of us have been listening to karl's vocal style for the majority of our adult lives? he doesn't just have a tone that can be masked with a vocoder. he has a particular pronunciation and enunciation quality that's unique to him alone. speaking or singing, when you hear karl you KNOW it's karl. but on this song we're debating it. i just don't feel karl's linguistic fingerprint on it. like i said, i could be totally wrong and i'm just looking for a flaw because i dislike the song. but even my husband, who isn't a fraction of a fan i am, said it didn't sound like karl's delivery style.

so i don't know. he could be trying something new and trying to step out of his "voice." but it's just not clicking with me with the same certainty that some of the rest of you have.

it's definitely not karl's voice, i didn't think that was being debated! has rick ever sung with a vocoder effect? to me it just sounds like a computer voice, or... here, remember when frampton comes alive came out and peter frampton used the tube thing to play guitar inside his mouth while he moved his mouth to make words, even though the sound wasn't coming from his mouth? i'm thinking it could be something along the lines of that.

how do we know it's not juanita?

BrotherLovesDub 05-15-2010 07:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantm3 (Post 121805)
it's definitely not karl's voice

how do we know it's not juanita?

I can't decide whether i'm going to use 'definitely not karl's voice' or 'how do we know it's not juanita' as my new signature.

ThingInABook 05-15-2010 07:17 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
there are tons of ways of using a vocoder or an autotune. autotuners get the vocals distorted beyond recognition if you manipulate them. example: Kid A by radiohead. thom is singing thru an autotune.

the first bits are clearly karl. the chorus, where he raises his voice, sound filtered and layered. if scribble has vocals layered, how about this track? maybe they're not scattered around, but placed in the same line to provoke distortion. like shielding the voice for the mood.

EDIT: rick used to sing when he was in freur ;) probably one of the craziest sights i have ever seen

Geo 05-16-2010 03:11 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
This sounds like Moby Feat. Brian Eno to me :)

King of Snake 05-16-2010 04:14 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantm3 (Post 121805)
has rick ever sung with a vocoder effect?

There are clips of them performing Boy Boy Boy live where he does indeed sing with a vocoder effect.

Dirty0900 05-16-2010 04:36 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Another 8 Ball vibe song to me which is never a bad thing.

BeautifulBurnout 05-16-2010 05:07 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Not at all sure about this one. Will have to listen a few more times, but it really doesn't "grab" me at all. Loving the new Scribble though.

crank 05-16-2010 07:03 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
You guys ever thought about the fact that it's RICK and not Karl singing?

Champiness 05-16-2010 07:04 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Don't you mean "possibility"? At this point we technically aren't even sure it's them.

King of Snake 05-16-2010 07:19 AM

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:rolleyes:

stimpee 05-16-2010 10:39 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
I think this tune has a bit of Anthony Rother about it.

potatobroth 05-16-2010 12:02 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
First impression: :confused:
Second impression: :D

The gunshots seem out of place upon the first few listens, but when you aren't 100% focused on the track, trying to tell if every synth pad, ever percussion hit, every trill were made by the boys, they fit quite well -- not as well as MIA's but still.

Dirty0900 05-16-2010 12:26 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Listening to this more then Scribble.

stimpee 05-16-2010 01:13 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Video for Good Day Today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d2IMY33D-Q

holden 05-16-2010 01:20 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stimpee (Post 121843)


If only! Reminds me of playing Atari as a child.

Weelll, as to whether it's Rick/Karl/Juanita/Billy etc. singing, it doesn't really matter to me if the track is produced by Underworld, and they're responsible for the sound choices that made it what it is.

I really am feeling "Good Day Today" a lot. And not just because it's Underworld. I mean, i've had years to try to appreciate "Trim" but no number of repeat plays will make me like it. This track just takes a bit of time, just a bit, and it's a revelation.

potatobroth 05-16-2010 08:34 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty0900 (Post 121840)
Listening to this more then Scribble.

Same.

I agree with what Holden said too. There are some simple, nice UW tracks that I just can't get into, but this one has already hit me -- and not because its UW.

bryantm3 05-16-2010 11:07 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by holden (Post 121844)
If only! Reminds me of playing Atari as a child.

Weelll, as to whether it's Rick/Karl/Juanita/Billy etc. singing, it doesn't really matter to me if the track is produced by Underworld, and they're responsible for the sound choices that made it what it is.

I really am feeling "Good Day Today" a lot. And not just because it's Underworld. I mean, i've had years to try to appreciate "Trim" but no number of repeat plays will make me like it. This track just takes a bit of time, just a bit, and it's a revelation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKlw5mZZVto

this is the best atari video ever (or c64. whatever your preference).

dubman 05-17-2010 12:44 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
i thought it was kinda boring and didnt do much, but i'm all drowsy from allergies so what do i know

i like the idea of rick singing. esp if he's using the same vocoder that mogwai do

big screen satellite 05-17-2010 02:53 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jose m (Post 121763)
this isn't underworld

i with ya.

unless underworld have started using speak and spell to make music

this track is basic shit

Chippy 05-17-2010 03:57 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
I'm loving Good Day Today so much. It's so hypnotic and moody. Definitely my favourite of the two new tracks out so far.

stimpee 05-17-2010 04:07 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantm3 (Post 121859)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKlw5mZZVto

this is the best atari video ever (or c64. whatever your preference).

argh yeah. well, its a good video but the song is awful. Little Computer People did it better and did it before Junior Senior - where are they now?

I dont care who this is, if its Underworld or not. I like it.

Dirty Canuck 05-17-2010 04:10 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
This track just keeps growing on me more and more with each listen, so I have to agree with you, Chippy.

unwound floors 05-17-2010 05:31 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Man, I adored the hell out of Scribble, but Good Day Today ain't doing anything for me? At all?

It's just too plain and boring for me.

potatobroth 05-17-2010 06:39 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
ive played this easily 20 times in the past few days.

starfox203 05-17-2010 10:39 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Really, really, really LOVE this track. It took a few listens, but the feeling, the lyrics, the sound effects all create a nice feeling. Similar to some of their other "ballad-y" songs, like Telematic Peal, Moon in Water, and even 8 Ball (though that one is such a classic).

The gun shots work really well in the context of the song.

starfox203 05-17-2010 10:43 AM

Re: Good Day Today
 
In fact I wonder if this came from Telematic Peal. It's different, but oddly similar in tone. If so, I'm glad I have a version of Telematic Peal that I love so I can keep that separate. Not sure if I see them both on the same album, but maybe.

jose m 05-17-2010 12:33 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big screen satellite (Post 121862)
i with ya.

unless underworld have started using speak and spell to make music

this track is basic shit


i dunno now,,,,you've all convinced me ! ;)

dc_04 05-17-2010 12:36 PM

Re: Good Day Today
 
it's on KCRW again right now.

www.kcrw.com

- dc


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