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34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 04-26-2010 07:57 AM

Re: The Chemical Brothers - Further
 
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Originally Posted by Eikman (Post 121010)
what an awful track.

http://robertchristgau.com/

Eikman 04-26-2010 01:42 PM

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what's up with xgau?

Champiness 04-26-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Eikman (Post 121010)
what an awful track.

Are you kidding me? It's like their equivalent of Juanita (length regardless)!

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 04-26-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Champiness (Post 121024)
Are you kidding me? It's like their equivalent of Juanita (length regardless)!

k, caaaalm down, it's not THAT good.

Eikman 04-26-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Champiness (Post 121024)
Are you kidding me? It's like their equivalent of Juanita (length regardless)!

now that's just blasphemy. juanita is a beautiful and epic SONG, while this is merely an uninspired attempt to revamp one of those "psychedelic" sounding tracks the Chems do since 1995.

but yeah, i suppose this one will be BIG with the lager lager shouting chav crowd at glasto and the likes. all it needs is a PHAT light show and a blaring sound system so that you can't really hear the piss-poor melody they got going on. i mean, the "salmon dance" was shite too, but at least it didn't drag on for 12 sodding minutes.

NOW GALVANIZE! *opens a can of stella with his teeth*

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 04-27-2010 07:42 AM

Re: The Chemical Brothers - Further
 
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Originally Posted by Eikman (Post 121021)
what's up with xgau?

if you're going to dismiss all kinds of good music with just a sentence maybe this guy can give you some pointers

Champiness 04-27-2010 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jOHN rODRIGUEZ (Post 121025)
k, caaaalm down, it's not THAT good.

Sorry. It's just that seeing someone criticize it that harshly made me a bit defensive. But seeing as it's only two people on here who seem to hate it I've cooled down a bit. Eikman, you have the right to an opinion. I just don't see what your problem with it is - if this is "mainstream" or just poor, what would you have them doing? Underworld covers?

Eikman 04-27-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Champiness (Post 121051)
Sorry. It's just that seeing someone criticize it that harshly made me a bit defensive. But seeing as it's only two people on here who seem to hate it I've cooled down a bit. Eikman, you have the right to an opinion. I just don't see what your problem with it is - if this is "mainstream" or just poor, what would you have them doing? Underworld covers?

calling a song "awful" is not exactly harsh. and i don't care if it's "mainstream" or not, but it is just a weak song IMO. predictable and downright annoying after 6 minutes.

oh and please, no underworld covers unless they are pre-AHDO ;)

holden 04-28-2010 10:45 PM

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ok, no one is doing UW covers. Sure, we compare to what we know. But the Chems have never really been on the same wavelength as Underworld. Big beat in one corner, with delusions of psychodelia and hip hop versus something entirely more progressive and genre-bending in the other under world.

Still, i'm not disappointed after hearing but ONE new Chemical Brothers track. I like the concept of "Further", i like the long instru jam of this track, and i hope it's sustainable over a full LP. If the Chems have the guts to make a mostly instrumental record of sustained jams, it'll be an improvement over the last 2 LPs and more in the spirit of their first 2 records.

chems1919 04-29-2010 10:29 AM

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The cover for the album:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA600_.jpg

Looks awesome; reminds me of the artwork for elektrobank.

holden 04-29-2010 05:40 PM

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Yeah, nice cover photo... i really liked the psychodelic/random photos of the Exit Planet Dust and Dig Your Own Hole era, designed by Blue Source. The incorporation of screenprints got kind of old after four albums.

Really hoping the music's a throwback to their mid-late 90's era, too!

chems1919 04-29-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by holden (Post 121095)

Really hoping the music's a throwback to their mid-late 90's era, too!

Same here. I've been hoping they would release an album that would incorporate more of their big-beat sound from their first 2 albums. I doubt Further will have that same big-beat style, but maybe they'll hint at it somehow...

//\/\/ 04-30-2010 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chems1919 (Post 121090)
The cover for the album:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA600_.jpg

Looks awesome; reminds me of the artwork for elektrobank.

puts me in mind of 'the test'

cured 04-30-2010 01:57 PM

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It's really not that bad of a track...it just does not work well sitting in front of a computer with headphones on, or perhaps even in a car. I heard this for the first time last year at Coachella and it worked really well in that environment.

ndrwrld 04-30-2010 05:00 PM

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teaser video for Escape Velocity.
i want that suit !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zps8NnBrHA

ndrwrld 04-30-2010 10:30 PM

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i have to say, i don't think the Chemies have ever put out a lame video for any of their songs.
( yes, Salmon Dance song sucks, but the video is wicked ).
you UK Roundhouse attendees should consider yourself lucky.

dubman 04-30-2010 11:57 PM

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this vid just makes it more annoying

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It's really not that bad of a track...it just does not work well sitting in front of a computer with headphones on, or perhaps even in a car.
or hearing it at home. or outside on a walk. or anywhere at all.

i keep hearing this track in different places and before i was indifferent but i'm really starting to hate it

chems1919 05-01-2010 12:25 AM

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I'm hoping that video clip is just a preview of what it would look like without some type of motion capture effect. If it's just that alone for the song, then it is lacking a lot from The Chemical Brothers' usual video footage that they play live, which is incredible.

Caprice 05-01-2010 12:34 PM

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too bad we all can't get together when it comes out and have a party...

King of Snake 05-01-2010 01:44 PM

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what's with all the Salmon Dance hate? That track is fun :)

chems1919 05-01-2010 02:43 PM

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Agreed. I also like Salmon Dance. It's not epic or anything, but it's a fun track to break the tension on the album. I was just glad they don't release another song like "Left Right" from Push the Button. That's the only chemical brothers track that comes to mind where I absolutely can not listen to.

holden 05-02-2010 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by King of Snake (Post 121127)
what's with all the Salmon Dance hate? That track is fun :)

As i wrote when "We Are the Night" was released, "Salmon Dance" features lyrics that sound episodes on "Sesame Street" when they tried to be hip and learn to rap n- breakdance. "Let me introduce to you a brand new dance - i know you're gonna love it if yougive it a chance." Ugh. as bad as any numbr of 80's raps that began with "My name is _ and i'm here to say..." Fine, it's a silly lyric. But the music's cheesy, too. Sounds like an auto-tune on a Casio.
Only part of the song i kind of enjoy are the ad libs between Sammy the Salmon and Fatlip. "Wow, how interesting. Salmons pay attention to the mooon?" "Who's hungry?" :P

Anyway, it gets skipped a little less than my other least favorite CB track, "Left Right". i dunno. The past two records have had their moments, but not enough to enthuse me like the first 4 records did.

joethelion 05-02-2010 01:39 PM

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I actually like "the Salmon Dance" even more than "Galvanize"

I mean - at least "Salmon..." is a funny, happy, sort of tongue in cheek sort of track, but every time I hear "galvanize" ... it just sounds like someone is trying waaay too hard (or - like the Sesame Street rap example)


...having said that - yea - "Left Right" might be one of the worst Chems tracks EVER.

//\/\/ 05-02-2010 01:57 PM

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that whole album is filed under Best Left Forgotten (Because It's Shit) as far as i'm concerned!

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 05-03-2010 11:10 AM

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I don't get the Salmon Dance hate either. Its not like it was meant to be really great or anything. Probably the Chems themselves see it as "stupid".

Eikman 05-03-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j (Post 121147)
I don't get the Salmon Dance hate either. Its not like it was meant to be really great or anything. Probably the Chems themselves see it as "stupid".

maybe someone should tell them that there is a thin line between ironic and moronic.

//\/\/ 05-03-2010 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j (Post 121147)
Its not like it was meant to be really great or anything.

scene - chemical brothers studio.

tom: hey ed! let's make and release a shit tune.

ed: bangin idea.



(i don't believe that actually happened)

Eikman 05-03-2010 04:10 PM

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i also wonder how they got that pharcyde guy to rap on their "stupid" tune. or how they convinced the label to pay a shitload of $$$ for an equally ridiculous music video and even RELEASED IT AS A SINGLE! now why would one want to go through all of that if it "wasn't meant to be great or anything".

sorry, but i think they really took the whole thing very serious. as in "we seriously want to release a fun track".

too bad it turned out shite.

but to come back to the topic at hand: i haven't heard anything else of "further", so here's still hope...

chems1919 05-03-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Eikman (Post 121152)
but to come back to the topic at hand: i haven't heard anything else of "further", so here's still hope...

Speaking of which, the first single has been revealed. The track is called "swoon": http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...ref=dm_dp_trk1

You can listen to the first 30 seconds. To be short, I'm unimpressed by the clip; actually gives me a bit of a headache from that one swirling sample. There's a bunch of youtube videos floating around from the chemical brothers playing that track live, but the sound quality doesn't really help. On a side note, I think the cover art is ace.

//\/\/ 05-04-2010 02:52 AM

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i quite like the sound of that!

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 05-04-2010 09:17 AM

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Well that could very well be the case Eikman, I don't see it as much different from stuff like "Crank That", kinda a fun tune, not exactly good or worth listening to over and over, but I wouldn't hate on the group because of it. I don't know why they released it as a single any more than you do. It's not like WATN didn't have its share of longer and heavier tracks to balance that out. I thought some of it was very good.

//\/\/ 05-04-2010 12:15 PM

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[QUOTE=34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5jI thought some of it was very good.[/QUOTE]

i've forgotten just about every note. some notes i've forced from my memory; but most of it just went in and out straight away. much like 'ahdo' for me...*


*in terms of impact, not sound. obviously.

cured 05-04-2010 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by King of Snake (Post 121127)
what's with all the Salmon Dance hate? That track is fun :)

I can't stand that track. I can't believe it was created by anyone, let alone the Chemical Brothers.

the mongoose 05-04-2010 08:46 PM

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>>>mp3 for Escape Velocity<<<:cool:

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j 05-05-2010 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by //\/\/ (Post 121175)
i've forgotten just about every note. some notes i've forced from my memory; but most of it just went in and out straight away. much like 'ahdo' for me...*


*in terms of impact, not sound. obviously.

I would at least give "Burst Generator" another listen...

chems1919 05-06-2010 03:07 PM

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Swoon is here! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCp_3...layer_embedded

holden 05-07-2010 07:46 PM

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Cool video - song was ok, liked it when it got a bit more chilled for a few bars ~2 min in. The main synth lead with the pitchslide is, as someone on youtube noted, very Orbital-esque. But in true Chems fashion, they tweak the high frequencies, here to an almost painful degree. I'm hoping the full-length version is a bit more interesting and varied.

Dunwho 05-07-2010 08:41 PM

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Album is ...starting to sound promising...

chems1919 05-07-2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by holden (Post 121254)
Cool video - song was ok, liked it when it got a bit more chilled for a few bars ~2 min in. The main synth lead with the pitchslide is, as someone on youtube noted, very Orbital-esque. But in true Chems fashion, they tweak the high frequencies, here to an almost painful degree. I'm hoping the full-length version is a bit more interesting and varied.

I also like the chilled part that's about 2 minutes in. I wish they would extend that for longer. The album version of this song is supposedly at least 6 minutes, so maybe it will be longer in there. The song is definitely growing on me and I must admit the video is amazing. Chemical Brothers always have a unique style with their album/video art direction; I love it.

the mongoose 05-08-2010 08:29 AM

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Here's a link to (128kbps) mp3 of Swoon:
>>>Click<<<


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