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Deckard 09-04-2008 05:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean (Post 101354)
The outstanding element of the whole night for me was the glaringly low-class on display. Such school-yard tactics. They're betting that there are enough uninformed people out there that their bs will work. They may yet be right, but I for one find that approach insulting.
Things that struck me were the same things that always strike me about the Republican rallies/conventions - the sickening machismo (I'm reminded of that song in Team America, "AM-ER-IC-AAAAA.... FUCK-YEEEEAHHHH!"), the pandering to stupidity (to some extent both parties do this, but the right has traditionally excelled at appealing to the lower more primitive parts of the brain), and the positively chilling degree of patriotism - a concept which, at that level, seems to require putting reason on hold. (To me as a Brit, those enormous flags on screen just looked scary, in a fascist/ultra-nationalist foreign V for Vendette kind of way!)

Schoolyard tactics is right. In particular, they're remarkably similar to that of the schoolyard bully who rules by force/machismo and fear, and scoffs at reason. If you're not in his tribe, you're a target.

cacophony 09-04-2008 06:47 AM
Re: Republican Convention
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 101360)
Schoolyard tactics is right. In particular, they're remarkably similar to that of the schoolyard bully who rules by force/machismo and fear, and scoffs at reason. If you're not in his tribe, you're a target.
and this has won them 8 years of executive control so i'd call it a pretty successful tactic. sadly.

i'm so extremely disappointed in mccain. i realize he doesn't control the overall party, and i realize he'd never be in a position to vie for the presidency without the party's support. still, in his entire career he was never THAT GUY. now he's letting the party steer him towards ugly tactics and manipulative messages in order to get the base out.

i know it's become fashionable for democrats to view mccain as the enemy, to describe him as old (LOLZ) and senile (SUPERLOLZ) and a direct carbon copy of bush in his policymaking. but the truth is, that's not the case and we all knew it before all of this turned so negative. he used to be a better politician (and better person) than this, but because the stakes are so high he's allowing himself to become twisted and exactly like the thing he's always stood apart from.

before all of this, if mccain had won the election i wouldn't have been bothered. now i find the prospect fairly upsetting.

the RNC has marked some of the most depressing days of 2008.

Deckard 09-04-2008 07:32 AM
Re: Republican Convention
 
^^ Agree, agree and agree.

cacophony 09-04-2008 09:10 AM
Re: Republican Convention
 
CNN.com's homepage headlines are not terribly flattering about the impression the RNC has made so far. Stark contrast to the analysis and reactions to the DNC.

one excerpt:

Quote:
For the second consecutive night, a lot of the rhetoric at the Republican convention Wednesday evening seemed left over from the last cycle when the fight against terrorism dominated the race.

The biggest voter concern and the theme of the evening was the economy. But did it top the agenda Wednesday night? No. The policy prescriptions were minimal; the party-issued signs proclaiming "prosperity" made for a jarring sight.


The language and terror focus were left over from 2004. The evening's tone was vintage 1992, with just a hint of culture war.
Surveys suggest Democrats hold the advantage on the dominant issue this year, so Republicans looked to redirect the anger with base-pleasing swipes at the media and liberal elites.

cacophony 09-04-2008 09:16 AM
Re: Republican Convention
 
oh my god, i will never stop laughing.

the mccain camp is unable to define palin's "executive experience."

Sean 09-04-2008 12:37 PM
Re: Republican Convention
 
And a fantastically sarcastic article in Politico about why the media "should apologize" to Palin. An excerpt:


ST. PAUL, Minn. — On behalf of the media, I would like to say we are sorry.

On behalf of the elite media, I would like to say we are very sorry.

We have asked questions this week that we should never have asked.

We have asked pathetic questions like: Who is Sarah Palin? What is her record? Where does she stand on the issues? And is she is qualified to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?

We have asked mean questions like: How well did John McCain know her before he selected her? How well did his campaign vet her? And was she his first choice?

Bad questions. Bad media. Bad.

gambit 09-04-2008 06:47 PM
Re: Republican Convention
 
What the fuck. Did anyone see that "9/11 Tribute" video they played? Why didn't the narrator just say "John McCain will protect us, and that radical muslim terrorist Barack Hussein Osama bin Laden will kill us all"?

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 09-04-2008 08:53 PM
Re: Republican Convention
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cacophony (Post 101361)
and this has won them 8 years of executive control so i'd call it a pretty successful tactic. sadly.

i'm so extremely disappointed in mccain. i realize he doesn't control the overall party, and i realize he'd never be in a position to vie for the presidency without the party's support. still, in his entire career he was never THAT GUY. now he's letting the party steer him towards ugly tactics and manipulative messages in order to get the base out.

i know it's become fashionable for democrats to view mccain as the enemy, to describe him as old (LOLZ) and senile (SUPERLOLZ) and a direct carbon copy of bush in his policymaking. but the truth is, that's not the case and we all knew it before all of this turned so negative. he used to be a better politician (and better person) than this, but because the stakes are so high he's allowing himself to become twisted and exactly like the thing he's always stood apart from.

before all of this, if mccain had won the election i wouldn't have been bothered. now i find the prospect fairly upsetting.

the RNC has marked some of the most depressing days of 2008.
Whatever the outcome for McCain in this Presidential Election, I believe McCain knows how to handle "them". He was clearly the best choice for
The Republican Party.

I find myself getting a bit red in the face questioning who's behind the possible set up. And who would stoop so low.

kagenaki koe 09-04-2008 09:01 PM
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John McCain just named his Axis of Evil : Al-Qaeda, Iran, and The Evil Russian Empire (led by Darth Putin). and then transitioned to how he hates war. then briefly make mention of The Cold War.

ooohkay.......

gambit 09-04-2008 09:56 PM
Re: Republican Convention
 
He spent all of three minutes talking about what he was going to do as president and the rest patting himself on the back.


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