Re: 2010-10-06 Zepp Osaka
 

Found a site with the set lists for the shows here...looks like tonight's encore had Pearl's Girl instead of Dirty Epic. Both good songs though! :D

http://trafficjpn.com/underworld/news.html

I thinks big fans of UW can enjoy the show even if the set list was 100% the same. I know I would but I was only able to get tickets to Sunday's show.

Re: 2010-10-06 Zepp Osaka
 

I certainly wouldn't enjoy the show as much as I would if they were random setlists and I'm a big fan of Underworld. Part of the allure of their live shows was having literally no idea what was coming next. It was a fantastic live experience. Many of us have seen them 10+ times and outside of a festival setting, I don't think any of those shows were clones of a previous one.

I went to back to back shows in 2 different cities once, and 3 or 4 songs were repeated. Thats it. The rest were completely random.

The LiveHereNow shows are all pretty unique without sacrificing heavy hitters or alienating new listeners.

Fact is, this new tour of 13 songs contains 6 from the new album, is starty/stoppy, and in the exact same order. Will I enjoy the show? Probably. But I sure as shit won't be surprised nor will it rank up there with the best of them. End of an era? Blip in the road?

And to be honest, I'm more concerned with the start/stop nature of the show as the improves and bridges used to be such awesome moments. The subtle clues about what was coming next will be missed.

Re: Underworld Articles 2010
 

i'm not so sure.
you could get that impression here but amongst the "normal" fans i dunno.

Re: 2010-10-06 Zepp Osaka
 

I wonder. I thought the static setlist would be ditched when the boys started to do their own shows but obviously not. They're still the dogs' live but I already find myself longing for the Barking era to end.

Re: 2010-10-06 Zepp Osaka
 

guys....there just aren't enough fans around these days that share your views imo (check out facebook and gig reviews for a positive view or for an alternative, the amount of us that get involved on here ! )
i get the feeling that this is an end of the road in someway though, maybe those seated theatre shows are the next development, a "dubnobass/2nd toughest" tour like the primals upcoming "screamadelica" tour or "an intimate evening with smith & hyde" with live painting,poetry and fizzy pop ?????
in the meantime,why not stop checking out the setlists and then any show you see you'll still have the surprise you want? ;)

Re: Underworld Articles 2010
 

True. I'm just basing this on people I know that are both super fans and so-so fans. If UW played back to back in NYC, I know a whole bunch from both categories that would go to both shows.

Re: 2010-10-06 Zepp Osaka
 

All my opinions are from a superfan pov. All my concerns are thus, from this pov. :)

I would LOVE to have UW bill the first show of a 2-night set as 'only ambient songs' or 'only bsides' or whatever. I'd be in heaven.

Now, They Might Be Giants (weird comparisson but go with me) announce the format for each show they are going to do. Living near NYC, ive seen them live dozens of times and not a single show has been the same. Not remotely. They play small venues, play gigs in clusters (like last saturday of each week for the entire month), and do the following:

Sat 1: Entire Album X, + some random songs
Sat 2: No repeats at all between Sat 2 and Sat 3
Sat 3: No repeats at all between Sat 2 and Sat 3
Sat 4: Two part show, first half just the two founders and a beatbox, second part full band.

The point being, they aim smaller, and offer a huge variety. They get multiple attendees because the show is always different. When there arent enough fans, aim smaller and more intimate. Give reasons to get the remaining fans to go more often.

I loved that Underworld shows were always different. Its why i started collecting their bootlegs.

Re: 2010-10-06 Zepp Osaka
 

It wouldn't pay the bills.

Re: 2010-10-06 Zepp Osaka
 

Too late, we already know the setlist because it was played WAY BACK on the 12th June and hasnt changed since. If this tour was sold as Live Here Now theres no way anyone would buy more than the gig they were at. I know its easier to do the same setlist 20+ times in a row (ask Orbital). But at the expense of pissing off the existing fans who might do more than 1 gig per tour. As an example, UW are playing London 3 times in 4 months. Are they going to play the same setlist for all 3 gigs? If this is gonna be how this tour is then maybe the fans here should only see one gig and give the rest of the tour a miss and hope that the next one is different. If this tour is there to attract new fans, then I hope it works, but for me who usually sees Underworld upto 6 times per tour its a kick in the teeth (yes, i know im certainly not normal in doing that, thats why im such an Underworld freak). I get it that the majority of people see UW once per tour and theyre very happy. But thats not us. So we are here bitching. Sorry about that.

And I hope UW arent at the point of touring previous albums whole (yet). Its nice but they have so much more to give. I'm still hoping for a change in the setlist for the US/EU shows, even if the new tracks are played in the same order first, and then the boys mix it up for the second half.

Re: 2010-10-06 Zepp Osaka
 

i think there's a lot of truth in this.