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Rog 06-01-2010 03:07 PM

Re: fuck israel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by //\/\/ (Post 122540)
erm, because it could have unloaded safely and the aid could have got through - isn't that the point? or was the point just to provoke a reaction? they knew there was a blockade, and they knew israel would enforce it. so in my mind, getting aid through was pretty fucking low on the List Of Things We Hope To Acheive In This.

shit for the inhabitants of gaza, who go on being pawns in this shitty game. as i say - it's a win for hamas and it's a win for the israeli right; both of whom are claiming justification and the high moral ground.

but mr and mrs wanting-aid-in-gaza? fucked over once again. front and back.


and as for the ship being a 'red crescent ship' - you need to run a fact check as they had nothing to do with this: Free Gaza and the IHH were the organisers.

totally agree

Rog 06-01-2010 03:11 PM

Re: fuck israel
 
[quote=bas_I_am;122539]Why should it?

quote]

because 9 people wouldn't have died?:rolleyes:

you put a stick in the hornets nest - you get stung, i agree with stranglet's take on this...........

cured 06-01-2010 05:46 PM

Re: fuck israel
 
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I don't know, I think I'd be pretty pissed if Israel was being this anal about what the Palestinians could have.

It appears to me the flotilla defiantly bypassed the blockade but they were still in international waters when they were boarded. They have the right to defend themselves. I wouldn't have taken arms, myself, but sending a bunch of dudes down a line and onto a ship isn't exactly a peace offering, either. The fault ultimately falls on Israel for sending armed men onto a boat, where a fight broke out, where Israel needed to use live fire to defend themselves. The flotilla crew were defiant but it was Israel that picked the fight.

Obama is kind of stuck here. Side with the Turks, who are the US' plan B when it comes to having a partner in Arab relations? Or side with Israel, again, and basically flush all that Arab goodwill-building down the toilet? Not surprisingly, the US is stuck in the middle for the time being.

Sean 06-04-2010 11:50 AM

Re: fuck israel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by //\/\/ (Post 122540)
erm, because it could have unloaded safely and the aid could have got through - isn't that the point? or was the point just to provoke a reaction? they knew there was a blockade, and they knew israel would enforce it. so in my mind, getting aid through was pretty fucking low on the List Of Things We Hope To Acheive In This.

shit for the inhabitants of gaza, who go on being pawns in this shitty game. as i say - it's a win for hamas and it's a win for the israeli right; both of whom are claiming justification and the high moral ground.

but mr and mrs wanting-aid-in-gaza? fucked over once again. front and back.


and as for the ship being a 'red crescent ship' - you need to run a fact check as they had nothing to do with this: Free Gaza and the IHH were the organisers.

Well said.


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