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deckard236, I recommend you use Max to rip the CD:

http://sbooth.org/Max/

Go to the Preferences, and under the "Formats" section add "FLAC" as a format and check the checkbox. Under the "Ripper" section, change it to "cdparanoia". Then, insert your CD and rip the tracks. The rip will probably end up in your "Music" folder.

Then, as BrotherLovesDub suggests, Transmission is the best torrent client on the Mac. Do you need help with how to make and upload a torrent?

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Yes please

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as much as i dont like the mixes, i'll go for it also,
for a collectors point of view..

thanks for the heads up..

later
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1. First you need to generate the torrent file. In Transmission, go to File and choose "Create Torrent File". Select the FOLDER of all the audio files. Then, in the Trackers field, put in the announce URL for the tracker (in this case, http://tracker.rtsr.net/announce.php). Then click "Create". The .torrent file will be created (probably on your desktop).

2. Now, you need to upload the torrent to the tracker. Go to http://tracker.rtsr.net/torrents-upload.php Fill out the form, including the .torrent file you just generated.

3. Now, you'll need to re-download the torrent file. There will be a link to do so on the webpage. Double-click the newly downloaded .torrent file to open it in Transmission. In Transmission, point the download location to the FOLDER containing the audio files, and then click "Add". It should now verify the files, and after a few seconds, it will start "Seeding" the files. That is, the progress bar will be solid green. Now, just leave Transmission running. People will be able to download the files from you, so long as you are seeding it.

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The torrent is on! :D *drools*

@deckard236: I see you as a peer with 0.0% downloaded, have you done step 3 above?

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Yes I have, but I seem to be having trouble. The files never verified, and nothing's happening. I have retried it 5 times with the same results. Not sure what I am doing wrong. Any suggestions?

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I don't have a Mac, but I found this (maybe it helps):

edit: It works now, great!

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OK it seems to be working, thanks for everyone's help on this, fun learning experience. Looking forward to hearing what you guys think of these tracks.

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Thanks so much for sharing these tracks, deckard236.
There are clearly elements from Tongue, Skyscraper and Bigmouth in these tracks. Lovely stuff (even if I understand why they didn't make it to Dubno).

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These tracks are awesome...! Thank you deckard236! You are holding a piece of history in your hands... :D

To me it sounds like The Hump / Mother Earth, Karl's MK1 style vocals + Rick's Lemon Interupt style beats & pads.
Is that Karl doing the Eclipse vocals in Organ? hehe...

One question: If I want to assemble the whole album, do I take the tracklist you posted earlier? Because in the torrent Can U Feel Me is track number 2 and not 9.

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deckard236, thank you so much. No one said this before because I think we were cautiously skeptical, but the proof is in the pudding. I don't think anyone even knew these tracks existed, and you have generously shared a rare and unique piece of Underworld history with us.

It wasn't quite clear from your original post. Do you have the actual DAT? Or just a CD copy of it? If you have the DAT, could you post a picture of it? I'm sure there are some on here that would offer you a pretty penny for it.

Also, could you perhaps share the rest of the tracks? I wonder if any of them are different from the eventual album versions. At a minimum, you listed "River of Bass" as 9:06, which is longer than any released version.

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Im happy that the music is on the tracker, so many thanks for that. Thanks also to the people helping Deckard236 in uploading it. However, as this is on the RTSR tracker, and this isnt really the thread for this (though news of it is astounding) further discussion should either be in a new thread, and discussion of any files should be on the RTSR Yahoo Group. We welcome new members with open arms, really :)

Once again, deckard236: thank you for your contribution!

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agreed! seconded!
personally, hearing sounds of my early teenage years holds some special value: i imagin whan would have happend if i'd known them then... thinking about the super-crap stuff i listened to in '93..
so really: thank you! hearing fresh tunes from yesteryear really blows my mind...

also seconded! us at RTSR being a bunch of anal collectors, we'd certainly appreciate the full show!

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awesome stuff deckard236

Can U Feel Me has the same part as Vocoder Monks

'a hole in the back of the sun' = runout groove on The Hump

'Can you feel me, like I feel you/Can you hold me in your dreams'
is also in Mother Earth although heavily computerized.

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Nice catch. Makes sense, since Vocoder Monks is from an art installation piece from 1993.

I'm thinking that these demo pieces might be from as early as 1992 or 1991. If these are progenitors of later pieces (Organ -> Eclipse, Can U Feel Me -> Vocoder Monks, etc.), then they would necessarily have to be earlier than 1993.

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Big Meat Show is great! thanks a million* Deckard.


*not in US currency

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Go listen to the last 3 minutes of "Mmm Skyscraper" on dubno. It's "Can U Feel Me". Much different from this early demo version, but you can hear the elements and lineage there. I always wondered about that section of Skyscraper, and now we know.

(Also, maybe a mod should break all of these posts out of collector's corner into a new thread.)

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"Can U Feel Me" was on another tape cassette labeled as "Feel Me" which is 4:00 faded out...

other track out there:

Faded Love
Sex Lies (Rock)
Sex Lies
Winter Moon
Yours Faithfully
Faith Healer
Spirit Of The World
Isolation
Mother Earth.. early mix

would be nice to hear the stories about those... and here i was spending all my time with the nice doggy lol

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Yes the original dat was in the order that I listed earlier. The program was to long to fit on 1 CD so it is split onto 2, Can U Feel me is track 2 of the 2nd CD

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I have a copy of the original dat, not the original one. I'm pretty sure that the original had a standard plain dat label that was hand written. I have listened to these tracks a hundred times and I never realized that River of Bass was almost 3 minutes longer, It is really just an extended version of the same mix, but I will definitely post it when I get a chance.

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I'm still trying to get ahold of a pair of the addidas UW Tomato shoes. I've searched everywhere, but I can't find anything my size. I wear a size US 12 or 12 1/2. It's gotten to the point where I don't mind if they're fakes; I just want a pair really bad!!!

Does anyone know of a place that supports my size? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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If anyone's interested, ive put a few more promo type items from my collection onto ebay:

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/mikewbower

Including the Darren Emerson mix disk / interview digipak promo...

:)

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I just have received a package with a triple DVD set Genesis - When in Rome 2007. I have contacted the seller.
...

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i got my 'ring road' promo with the correct artwork today,
no problems here..

later
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Turns out that my father ordered that from another seller in Singapore... :o
Still haven't received the promo yet, but I'm looking forward to it!

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does anyone need Volume 7 with Why Why Why (Version)? i have a spare copy to trade. PM me an offer if you want it.

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I received my copy today! :)

There is still one on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Ring-Road-by-Unde...3286.m63.l1177

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If anyone is interested I have placed my 3 disc Tokyo Nov 25th 2005 live set on ebay yesterday and it is looking for a good home.

There may be more Underworld/ tomato items in the future as I am selling my collections.

Thanks,

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230320215897

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Ooo that could go for silly money, once it went for £100+. Glad I got mine for £10.

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Indeed it did! And I am the silly man who paid a silly £130 for it:eek: However, it IS u/w and worth it:) - "ricky on the groooove!"

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WTF??? thing is at US$300 now. that can't be real.
damn, I let mine rattle around in the trunk of my car and get all beat up :(

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That's about what I paid for mine a few months ago. I was desperate for it, and didn't think I would have another opportunity to get one for a while. It will be interesting to see what the current auction will end for, and if buzzelvis will actually get paid for it.

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i certainly hope only serious bidders are looking at the items i am listing. i am providing the heads up via the forums because i know the community here has an interest in these items and that they will go to persons who collect/ appreciate them. i really want to make sure they go to a good home.

i may not post often but i am a daily viewer of the forums for a long time. i have been a huge fan of both tomato and underworld since 1996 when i first discovered tomato then underworld and began collecting.

so...

i have just placed my tomato2 cdrom on ebay as the next piece that i am selling. please take a look if you are interested.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=230320776160

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Hmm i'm half tempted to go for that as its a piece I don't have, but if it goes for silly prices I won't bother. Think that item is more for the 'ardcore fans as its not real common knowledge amongst the occasional UW fan.

If you have a Skyscraper CD single or Pink Rez to flog, let me know...

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i'm more interested in ur rage hard cd single ;)

80's styleee!!

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do it! no bids on that one yet. worth a buck for the trip back in time....

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A quick question ...

is cross border the same as Van Halen Van Halen? 3 video screens with highway signage/ truck stop imagery and tomoto woman's voice describing a trip to NY?

this audio was streaming during the Art Jam but have always called this cross border based on a spoken word piece I had of Karl quite a few years ago.

just curious.

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that was crossING border
names after the crossing border festival in the netherlands

http://www.nrc.nl/W2/Lab/Profiel/Border/selectie.html (in dutch)

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Based on Book of Jam 7 (spread pages 30-32), that is indeed Van Halen Van Halen Rock Guitar Band.

What is this spoken work piece you mentioned?

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I remember the spoken word piece having much of the same dialogue as crossing border but spoken by Karl. At one point Karl describes a beautiful photograph of a car with a dead rat attached to it that "stinks". Also talking about cell phones in dead zones and not picking up hitchhikers, pressure drop, Toots and the Maytals.

I don't know where it came from. Anyone else remember this?