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Just to lump it on thick...

Sarah Palin's war against information.
By avoiding the media and dismissing criticisms as sexist, Sarah Palin hopes to avoid scrutiny of her record.

Yeah, and I switched on the news this morning to see these.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: and one more :rolleyes:

Re: sarah palin?
 

I am avoiding commenting on this thread because I can't think of anything to say that would avoid a whole lot of very nasty swearwords about this person. I was sick of her the first time I saw her. At least McCain has some kind of experience to hang his right-wing views on. She has nothing except prejudice and dogma to rely on. Makes me barf.

I might buy one of those dolls, though... and a pack of pins....:D

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I have gotta say that I'm shocked to see people here asserting that the "lipstick on a pig" comment was "obviously" directed at Sarah Palin. I mean seriously, was Obama anticipating Sarah Palin in this other instance where he used it last September?

"I think that both Gen. [David] Petraeus and Ambassador [Ryan] Crocker are capable people who have been given an impossible assignment," Obama told the Post. "George Bush has given a mission to Gen. Petraeus, and he has done his best to try to figure out how to put lipstick on a pig."

Does this mean that last September, Obama thought that Bush was wearing lipstick? It's a euphemism, like saying "you can polish a turd...", or whatever other one you choose. And had he used "polish a turd...", would that mean he was calling McCain and Palin "turds?" The goal of euphemisms is to make a point without being literal. I mean, I expect some hard-core conservatives to see this supposed "controversy" in a literal way...hell, a frighteningly large portion of them take stories in the bible literally despite pesky things like "facts" or "science" or "evolution". But frankly, the fact that this fabricated indignation from the McCain camp is gaining such wide traction scares the shit out of me. Seriously - the Repubs have been calling every single question about or criticism of Palin "sexist", just hoping that at some point, it might stick. And this is it? This is what reverberates with people? :eek::confused:

Now do the Democrats have to be careful in the face of these b.s. "sexist" charges from Republicans? Absolutely. I'll bet large sums of money that you won't hear Obama use this euphemism any more. But saying that this was a deliberate swipe at Palin just doesn't hold water to me. At all. In any way. Maybe it would if the McCain camp hadn't been calling virtually every reference to Palin "sexist", or if Obama had never used this euphemism before, or if the context of the statement was even remotely directed at Palin, or if Obama had a history of name-calling. But those are all hypotheticals that don't apply, so as far as I'm concerned, this whole "story" is a non-issue.

Re: sarah palin?
 

I don't believe it was intended by Obama as an attempt at likening Palin to a pig. Course not - from everything I've seen of him, that's not his style. (...sweetie ;) ) But I do feel that he should have been savvy enough to see that using that phrase after Palin's lipstick pit-bull analogy - and not paying attention to the new interpretation that was now open to be gauged from that - would be asking for trouble.

The whole kerfuffle is a stupid great big pile of poo, but there you go.....

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I'll just say that yes, Obama could've used better words, and leave it at that.

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That's a valid point given the tact the McCain camp has been taking over the last couple months. And at the same time, I wonder if many people see this controversy as further evidence that the McCain camp is not just constantly punching, but is constantly punching below the belt. Probably not enough to make the risks and consequences worth it. But the McCain camp's low-class campaign is truly exceeding my expectations. I so used to think he was better than this....:(

And by the way - excellent use of "kerfuffle".

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Agreed, but in the back of my mind, I would personally like to see more freedom of expression by the candidates, and judgment placed on the truth value of the meaning, not through dishonest filtering and dumbing down, but I might just be old fashioned vis a vis current american politics. You shouldn't have to be savvy. YOu should just be able to assert your point. It seems like Mccain is the translator of the big funny harvard words so that the rubes can fully get how insulting Obama really is.

Anyway I think Obama's starting to feel like a sane man in an asylum

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The more I think about it, the more I think the McCain campaign chose Palin largely because they could inoculate her with sexism charges.

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have you seen McCain's new "Obama wants to teach kindergarten kids Sex" ad?

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No, but I've read about it. So freakin' disgusting that he would distort the truth in that way....