Re: nine inch nails - year zero
 

I also really like this more than With Teeth.

Re: nine inch nails - year zero
 

This just isn't winning me over yet. It's really odd the hear Trent write lyrics as a character. I'm not going to stop listening and give up because somtimes things take a while to grow on me.
But I'm in the "With Teeth" fans so far.

Re: nine inch nails - year zero
 

With Teeth really only had two... maybe three good tracks on it

I've never been able to really 'get into' that album

while - Year Zero, on the other hand... I've been digging since I first heard the leaked tracks... which, btw - still haven't gotten old. "Me, I'm Not" is probably my favorite track off the album and it was (i think) the second leaked track - so it's been out for a while

Re: nine inch nails - year zero
 

Holy crap, Sea Change is probably the best album I've ever heard. Are you sure you were listening to that album?? And although I think we must just have insanely different sensibilities towards music, I really think you outta give it one more spin.

All of that aside -- I don't think Nigel could've done anything remarkable with this NIN album. Nigel cares infinately about head space and airieness whereas pretty much all of NIN's albums past PHM have been very clausterphobic works with crushed dynamics. Not that this is a bad thing per se, but I really think that Nigel would have no idea of what to do with Trent's stuff.


EDIT: Oh yea, my thoughts...

I'm not liking this album very much. I agree with the sentiments expressed already about the production, and it could be that I'm just jaded from tinkering around with beats and what-not myself, but hardly anything on this album sounds like a completed thought. I think that if one aspires to be an electronic musician, one has to be keenly aware that what you accomplish is going to be based off of the production of your album. Not your rhythm, not your melody, but what you make those noises do in space. And I'm listening to these beats and they all sound locked in a box. They sound like one part Ableton Live, one part Battery and five parts laziness. And it's really frustrating, especially when it rubs up against more dedicated passages in this album. God Given is a good example here -- flat and dry lyrics, an uninspired drum beat that doesn't do anything but add elements, and when the chorus comes in and the mix gets huge, it almost feels like an afterthought. And then the chorus finishes and the track retreats back into its box. Sorry Trent, but distortion does not a beat make. Your job isn't done with your vocals after you lay your take. And thanks for the same guitar treatment that you've been giving me for the past 15 years, I didn't want a change... :rolleyes:

EDIT: And as I'm reviewing my post, "Greater Good" is playing and for fuck's sakes, I want to take this stupid kalimba and shove it up his ass.

I guess I'm just at the point that if I want to listen raw and cerrated productions, I want it to punch me in my fucking mouth. And that's the problem here -- the Trent that was imprinted upon me was this psychotic guy with over the top productions, a bastion of youthful angst that hit you like a Mack truck and left you gripping your chest. And I'll still hold out for a rebound, but all indications tell me that this Trent that I came to know and love is gone, and gone for good.

Re: nine inch nails - year zero
 

Industrial has always been like garage band electronic though. Distortion and mess filled is what makes it industrial IMHO.

I think the clausterphobic vibe is intentional as well. The entire album is political, no? I might be wrong there, but that would be a first for Reznor.

Maybe one day, he'll become PRESIDENT or maybe Ozzy? ;)

Re: nine inch nails - year zero
 

The funniest thing has happened.

I'm a Rhapsody subscriber (best $15 a month I spend too!) and when I did my write-up it was after my first, maybe second listen of the album. Well, after letting the album play over quite a few times, not only has my opinion lightened up considerably on this album, but I actually think this could be close to as good as TDS.

Funny how music does that, isn't it?

Re: nine inch nails - year zero
 

Ha ha, glad to hear it. In my opinion, this is definitely his best since TDS. It's the most coherent without a doubt. I like the fact that it's a concept album. Rightly or wrongly, it changes the way I listen to it.

Anyway, it's a good album. And it makes With Teeth sound pretty bloody awful in comparison.

Re: nine inch nails - year zero
 

You people are on drugs.

Re: nine inch nails - year zero
 

You're on drugs.

Re: nine inch nails - year zero
 

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?????///