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cacophony 11-06-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout (Post 105174)
She really is the architect of her own misfortune.

well said.

//\/\/ 11-07-2008 10:38 AM

Re: sarah palin?
 
the likes of malkin are trying to pass off her stupidity as 'instant trivia', saying that 'character counts' more. because she's shown herself to be of such good character...

gambit 11-10-2008 11:56 AM

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Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over death threats against Barack Obama

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The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for accusing Mr Obama of "palling around with terrorists", citing his association with the sixties radical William Ayers.

The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with supporters yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" until the McCain campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric.

But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further.

The Secret Service warned the Obama family in mid October that they had seen a dramatic increase in the number of threats against the Democratic candidate, coinciding with Mrs Palin's attacks.

Michelle Obama, the future First Lady, was so upset that she turned to her friend and campaign adviser Valerie Jarrett and said: "Why would they try to make people hate us?"

The revelations, contained in a Newsweek history of the campaign, are likely to further damage Mrs Palin's credentials as a future presidential candidate. She is already a frontrunner, with Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, to take on Mr Obama in four years time.

Details of the spike in threats to Mr Obama come as a report last week by security and intelligence analysts Stratfor, warned that he is a high risk target for racist gunmen. It concluded: "Two plots to assassinate Obama were broken up during the campaign season, and several more remain under investigation. We would expect federal authorities to uncover many more plots to attack the president that have been hatched by white supremacist ideologues."

Irate John McCain aides, who blame Mrs Palin for losing the election, claim Mrs Palin took it upon herself to question Mr Obama's patriotism, before the line of attack had been cleared by Mr McCain.
Just another reason to loathe this vile woman.

Deckard 11-10-2008 12:23 PM

Re: sarah palin?
 
Can you imagine the kind of introspection there will be if anything happens to him?

gambit 11-10-2008 12:50 PM

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Introspection by whom?

Deckard 11-10-2008 12:53 PM

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McCain/Palin supporters, at least the ones who aren't sick enough to cheer such a thing should it ever actually happen.

Sean 11-10-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 105391)
McCain/Palin supporters, at least the ones who aren't sick enough to cheer such a thing should it ever actually happen.

I personally wonder if Palin herself is realistic or intelligent enough to recognize that her words very likely did cause this spike in death threats. I tend to think that even if she does, she'll never acknowledge it.

I'm just thankful that so much negative news is coming out about her, and I hope it continues. Anything legitimate that can happen or be said to make a future run for the White House by her impossible is totally welcome in my opinion.

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 11-10-2008 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 105403)
I personally wonder if Palin herself is realistic or intelligent enough to recognize that her words very likely did cause this spike in death threats. I tend to think that even if she does, she'll never acknowledge it.

I'm just thankful that so much negative news is coming out about her, and I hope it continues. Anything legitimate that can happen or be said to make a future run for the White House by her is totally welcome in my opinion.


Right, denial. No way, never. I'd never believe it.

cacophony 11-10-2008 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 105403)
I'm just thankful that so much negative news is coming out about her, and I hope it continues. Anything legitimate that can happen or be said to make a future run for the White House by her impossible is totally welcome in my opinion.

hear hear!

BeautifulBurnout 11-10-2008 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 105388)
Can you imagine the kind of introspection there will be if anything happens to him?

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Originally Posted by gambit (Post 105390)
Introspection by whom?

Certainly not her. Nothing is ever her fault. Ever. It is all them. :rolleyes:

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 11-10-2008 03:45 PM

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BB: May I copy and paste your poetry?

BeautifulBurnout 11-10-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jOHN rODRIGUEZ (Post 105411)
BB: May I copy and paste your poetry?

"Oh I didn't realise that you wrote poetry
"I didn't realise you wrote such bloody awful poetry
"Mr Shankley."
:D

If you find poetry in my words, my sweet, then how can I deny you? :)

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 11-10-2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout (Post 105416)
"Oh I didn't realise that you wrote poetry
"I didn't realise you wrote such bloody awful poetry
"Mr Shankley."
:D

If you find poetry in my words, my sweet, then how can I deny you? :)


Great thanks. Ummm, I gonna add a period at the end. I don't know if that was some kind of artist flare or something else, but ... it doesn't look good.

gambit 11-10-2008 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout (Post 105409)
Certainly not her. Nothing is ever her fault. Ever. It is all them. :rolleyes:

BB, you're sexist for even questioning her. You sexist woman, you.

Honestly, I don't think Palin has the mental capacity for introspection. I want to give her the benefit of the doubt, but I can't just picture it with her. She's cut from the "America has nothing to apologize for" cloth. If something were to happen to Obama, she'd say that was sad and move on five seconds later.

I would expect the first person to question himself would be McCain. It was clear that things didn't go the way he wanted, and despite how much his campaign disgusted me, I think he would be horrified.

gambit 11-11-2008 12:33 AM

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Ugh, looks like she's eyeing 2012 (in a very indirect way). But apart from that, this line is golden:

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"I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door," Palin said in an interview with Fox News on Monday.
I mean, like, ohmigod! Like, if that door is, like, so totally open, then I'm going to be, like, I gotta go for it, dontcha know?!

(Sorry, couldn't resist. :D)

Deckard 11-11-2008 03:39 AM

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I agree with you Sean that Palin probably even lacks the ability of introspection in that sense. I still feel uncomfortable 'hounding' a relatively wet-behind-the-ears (ex-)candidate, but it truly beggars belief how moronic this one turned out to be.

I honestly have to wonder if Republican strategists deliberately chose the most foolish, dimwitted female candidate they could possibly find as a way of sticking two fingers up to the prospect of breaking through the glass ceiling and womens representation in politics generally. The whole thing almost seems like a tasteless joke by them.

Deckard 11-11-2008 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gambit (Post 105427)

If true, the world really will end in 2012 (or, umm, January 2013)

//\/\/ 11-11-2008 07:23 AM

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"Regarding the reported Africa gaffe, Palin said, "And never, ever did I talk about, well, gee, is it a country or is it a continent? I just don't know about this issue. So I don't know how they took our one discussion on Africa and turned that into what they turned it into ... Along those same lines, of course, was the criticism that supposedly I didn't know who the participants in NAFTA were."

Still not much of a denial; just a fudge-it-and-move-on-quickly dismissal...

cacophony 11-11-2008 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 105431)
I agree with you Sean that Palin probably even lacks the ability of introspection in that sense. I still feel uncomfortable 'hounding' a relatively wet-behind-the-ears (ex-)candidate, but it truly beggars belief how moronic this one turned out to be.

i think it's okay to hound an inexperienced candidate when that inexperienced candidate is willing to put her quest for power above the welfare of the nation she intends to represent in the second highest office in the land. her machiavellian attempts to bypass the necessary experience one should gain before striving for that seat of power leave her totally open to whatever valid criticism you can lob her way, regardless of how harsh it may be.

she knows she's inexperienced. she knows she's sneaking in the back door of a club she would never be admitted to otherwise. she deserves to be raked over the coals for her actions.

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Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 105431)
I honestly have to wonder if Republican strategists deliberately chose the most foolish, dimwitted female candidate they could possibly find as a way of sticking two fingers up to the prospect of breaking through the glass ceiling and womens representation in politics generally. The whole thing almost seems like a tasteless joke by them.

i honestly think the republican strategists thought they would get away with it. the modern republican party is marked by one distinct quality: hubris. i think they knew they were trying to pull an eliza doolittle here and pass off a mealy-mouthed backwater hillbilly as a seasoned statesman. they were overconfident in their ability to use spin and the social psychology of party-wide victimization to manipulate the public into believing the illusion they were trying to create.

and i honestly think they had no idea that she would be too headstrong and arrogant to submit to their image control. not to mention that after this many years of republican style-over-substance shenanigans the public has gotten suspicious of their spin.

kagenaki koe 11-12-2008 11:48 PM

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bitch isnt sorry as hell about her "palling around with terrorists" rhetoric:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_143362.html

FU sarah! don't bitch about how people talk about you, you unrepentant social climber

andrew sullivan says it best:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...till.html#more

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This deluded and delusional woman still doesn't understand what happened to her; still has no self-awareness; and has never been forced to accept her obvious limitations. She cannot keep even the most trivial story straight; she repeats untruths with a ferocity and calm that is reserved only to the clinically unhinged; she has the educational level of a high school drop-out; and regards ignorance as some kind of achievement.

Troy McClure 11-13-2008 02:30 AM

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Gov. Palin likes to keep it real...real dumb.

Andrew Sullivan has been rightly tough on Palin. I only begun reading his website since about 3 months ago. I truly had no idea he was fairly conservative.

Jason

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress...lin-mayans.jpg

Deckard 11-13-2008 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Troy McClure (Post 105624)
Gov. Palin likes to keep it real...real dumb.

Andrew Sullivan has been rightly tough on Palin. I only begun reading his website since about 3 months ago. I truly had no idea he was fairly conservative.

Yes, the sensible end of it! If more conservatism resembled the Sullivan template, the brand would be much less toxic.

Particularly liked this:
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It was a final product of the now-exhausted strategy of fomenting fundamentalist resentment to elect politicians dedicated to the defense of Israel and the extension of American military hegemony in every corner of the globe. Palin was the reductio ad absurdum of this mindset: a mannequin candidate, easily controlled ideologically, deployed to fool and corral the resentful and the frightened, removed from serious scrutiny and sold on propaganda networks like a food product.
Not sure I agree with this though:
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That the press felt required to maintain a facade of normalcy for two months - and not to declare the whole thing a farce from start to finish - is a sign of their total loss of nerve.
I'd swap press for electorate, or commentators - but what else could the press have done? As it was, there were complaints that they went too far. Going further would have turned her into a martyr/victim and made them look like disruptors of the democratic process, making her even more appealing to some.

But yes, "This deluded and delusional woman still doesn't understand what happened to her; still has no self-awareness; and has never been forced to accept her obvious limitations." - unfortunately that's absolutely the impression I get too.

Deckard 11-21-2008 12:40 PM

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Yes I know it's over (for 4 years at least) but I just need to post this...

Sarah Palin Turkey Incident: Does TV Interview While Turkeys Are Slaughtered In The Background (VIDEO)

"On Thursday, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin appeared in Wasilla in order to pardon a local turkey in anticipation of Thanksgiving. This proved to be a slightly absurd but ultimately unremarkable event. But what came next was positively surreal. After the pardon Palin proceeded to do an interview with a local TV station while the turkeys were being SLAUGHTERED in the background!!"

Seriously, the comedy just never ends. :D
(unless you happen to be the turkey)

Sean 11-21-2008 01:21 PM

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It's pretty magical that she's actually saying "you need a little levity in this job" as a turkey is dying in the background.

And a rare moment of Palin being right as she mentions that she'll "probably invite criticism by doing this"

Crazy stuff. :rolleyes:

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 11-21-2008 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 106143)
It's pretty magical that she's actually saying "you need a little levity in this job" as a turkey is dying in the background.

And a rare moment of Palin being right as she mentions that she'll "probably invite criticism by doing this"

Crazy stuff. :rolleyes:

I'm not in the know of the turkey symbolism.

Jive turkeys? Come now, boys, fill me in.

BeautifulBurnout 11-21-2008 02:14 PM

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Hehehehehe. Too funny. Except for the turkey. Seems like it takes a long time to kill the little blighter too, unless the guy was distracted by all the wittering going on behind him.

Like I said on another forum:

"She's wearing a Burberry scarf! I knew she was a chav!"

:o

cacophony 11-21-2008 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 106139)
Yes I know it's over (for 4 years at least) but I just need to post this...

it's okay, darlin'. i was just coming here to post this story myself. sarah palin's comedic value is too good to ignore.

jOHN rODRIGUEZ 11-21-2008 02:40 PM

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Maybe he has eyes in the back of 'is 'ead?

dubnobasswithme 11-21-2008 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BeautifulBurnout (Post 106147)
"She's wearing a Burberry scarf! I knew she was a chav!"

hahaha! the burberry is the first thing i noticed too :P

dubman 11-22-2008 03:01 PM

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i dont really get this one.
i guess it was kinda sloppy of her but yr on a turkey farm, talking about supporting local farmers, it's turkey killin month... hey hey, this is part of what happens there.

why is anyone surprised/taking potshots about this?

Deckard 11-22-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dubman
i dont really get this one.
i guess it was kinda sloppy of her but yr on a turkey farm, talking about supporting local farmers, it's turkey killin month... hey hey, this is part of what happens there.

why is anyone surprised/taking potshots about this?

"in order to pardon a local turkey"

I mean, cmon! :D

What with the whole Palin/slaughtering thing already out there.

Sean 11-22-2008 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Deckard (Post 106196)
"in order to pardon a local turkey"

I mean, cmon! :D

What with the whole Palin/slaughtering thing already out there.

Exactly. It's a silly PR flub. Go "pardon" a turkey, and then do interviews in front of all it's friends getting slaughtered.

//\/\/ 11-23-2008 04:14 AM

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it looks like a real-life wallace and gromit sketch!

Deckard 11-23-2008 06:32 AM

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Haha, yeah it's very Aardman. Creature Comforts springs to mind too.

http://i38.tinypic.com/f3vno0.jpg

Can quite easily imagine a turkey being shredded while a pitbull (with lipstick) gives an interview in the foreground. :D


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