Message to Rafa [Archive]

big screen satellite

01-30-2009, 03:10 AM

another message to Rafa (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article5614876.ece)

key point from the article:

'Like Chelsea, Liverpool have dropped 14 points from the past 30 available. Manchester United, on the other hand, have taken 26 points from their past ten league matches.'

i know its not over yet, but if you had £10k who wold you bet it on to win the league???

srsly?

IsiliRunite

01-30-2009, 03:21 PM

I would bet Manchester United's player budget, and we all know that's one hell of a large number.

big screen satellite

02-01-2009, 03:24 AM

I would bet Manchester United's player budget, and we all know that's one hell of a large number.

erm... thats RICH coming from a Chelsea fan!!!!!

Dirty0900

02-01-2009, 04:54 PM

Thank God Torress scored

Rog

02-02-2009, 02:50 AM

FACT: we are top of the league - you are not

note it down, and see you at the ceremony in may....

*YAWN* typical man u supporter

big screen satellite

02-02-2009, 05:02 AM

*YAWN* typical man u supporter

yep - what did you expect....??

can i also say i was pretty happy with yesterdays result because Chelsea were the bigger threat to United retaining their title than LiverFAIL...

Rog

02-02-2009, 06:53 AM

yep - what did you expect....??
.

precisely.............

big screen satellite

02-05-2009, 01:42 AM

another day, another poor Rafa performance... (and ITV we're not much better)

enjoying liverpool's demise :)

sanblaster

02-05-2009, 06:37 AM

i know its not over yet, but if you had £10k who wold you bet it on to win the league???

srsly?

BARÇA, you n00b!!!

big screen satellite

02-06-2009, 12:56 AM

BARÇA, you n00b!!!

are they in the Premier (meaning the 'best') league????

jole

02-06-2009, 02:40 AM

Yes they are in Primera (meaning the best) league.

big screen satellite

02-06-2009, 04:47 AM

Yes they are in Primera (meaning the best) league.

isn't That a dodgy Nissan???

any way, unless they are competing weekly with us in the BEST 'English Premier League', move the lesser football chat to the lesser league posts ;) or the NFL section, its the same in my book... :p

jole

02-06-2009, 06:02 AM

I thought this is lesser league chat cause last time i checked Primera had the best Uefa country coefficients therefore it is best league at the moment.

big screen satellite

02-06-2009, 08:52 AM

I thought this is lesser league chat cause last time i checked Primera had the best Uefa country coefficients therefore it is best league at the moment.

i'll point you to the section here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_coefficients)for reference:

see the heading : Current ranking (2009-10 UEFA competitions)

Spain -1
England +1

hmmm and just looking back at last years champions league in which 3 out of the 4 semi finalists were from the English Premier league... maybe it'll change this year ;)

still no bother, you enjoy your 'Nissan' Primera League... we'll enjoy the excitement of the Premier league

jole

02-07-2009, 04:31 AM

Yeah your stats r a bit old they go to season 2007/ 08, when England was 1st.
As far as i know 2008/09 is still going on and Spain has the strongest league.
http://kassiesa.net/uefabackup/data/method4/ccoef2009.html

So yes i will keep watching Primera liga

Dirty0900

02-07-2009, 03:04 PM

Liverpool seem to be making a habbit of this late goal win thing. Still, its interesting to see Aston Vanilla step up to the plate and possible push Arsenal in to UEFA cup place next year.

chuck

02-07-2009, 06:22 PM

It will be tough for Arsenal to make the final 4 - and most likely they'll miss out on the CL for the first time in 10 years.

Arshavin will be interesting - historically Arsenal's signings take a while to make an impact, but that's what's needed.

Same old story really - major injuries, decent players who know the system leave, and the ones who need to step up are too young.

Fabregas, Eduardo, Walcott, Rosicky all to return - but will it be too late?

Fair play to Aston Villa though - they've played solid football and totally deserve to be in the position they are.

//\/\/

02-08-2009, 03:17 AM

Liverpool seem to be making a habbit of this late goal win thing.

yes; win or lose, rafa's spitting tic-tacs by the final minute of every game ;)

big screen satellite

03-03-2009, 04:24 AM

here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7919729.stm)

ffs Rafa - shut up - you needed to buy more than one player and not sell your other striker - CRY MOAR you fucking twat... Rafa is so getting on my tits now... you threw away a perfectly good lead in the premiership and now you are basically 10 points behind and its still only February... its a team game - get a decent team together and you might win something you moaning twat - i actually feel sorry for Liverpool fans... :(

*end rant*

Rog

03-03-2009, 04:46 AM

i'll join you there Matt! i think he has cost us the best chance we have had for years of pushing utd close by selling and buying the wrong players and picking the wrong team for the wrong game. I hope he fucks off with Parry..............:o

stimpee

03-03-2009, 05:07 AM

I wonder how much Ferguson was moaning when Wenger reeled in that 13 point lead back in 1998 :)

polar_action

03-03-2009, 07:32 AM

There was something in the air tonight, a hamstring tight, Fer-nan-dooooo.

big screen satellite

03-03-2009, 07:32 AM

I wonder how much Ferguson was moaning when Wenger reeled in that 13 point lead back in 1998 :)

well i'm not sure... its shit losing a lead (ask Keegan :D ), but what happened since 1998 is that we've moved onwards and upwards... Rafa's moaning about one player... which he could have covered if he'd bought and sold wisely - he hasn't... and to be honest he needs to look at Gerrard too, who has been poor since his scuffle in the pub

Rafa is technically and tactically naive, he's done well to win the European Cup (in the past), but this year, the league was the priority and he's let a hell of a lot of fans down - moaning about it makes it worse... even Wenger is philosophical about this season, although if they don't get in the top 4 we may see him moan a bit...

yeah i'm laughing, considering how far behind United were... but Ferguson got on with it, wound up Rafa and now we'll win the league... and it'll be 18 each... no one has a right to win the league, but you have to give yourself the chance - Rafa, imo, failed to do that with the team he has cobbled together... Liverpool will not win any trophies this year.

Dirty0900

03-03-2009, 03:36 PM

Well I dunno Matt, your gonna loose 3 points tomorrow when you visit mine and Ian's favourite team!

big screen satellite

03-04-2009, 04:04 AM

Well I dunno Matt, your gonna loose 3 points tomorrow when you visit mine and Ian's favourite team!

hahaha

i hope i don't have to comeback here tonight and delete this post :p

stimpee

03-08-2009, 02:03 PM

Man Utd should send Stephen Taylor a big bunch of flowers for gifting them the 3 points :)

cock-a-doodle

03-09-2009, 08:08 PM

Hey Rafa, whoever you are.

//\/\/

03-10-2009, 04:35 AM

twat

big screen satellite

03-10-2009, 10:19 AM

twat

cock

Rog

03-10-2009, 11:01 AM

who? rafa or cock?:p

Rog

03-10-2009, 04:04 PM

So yes i will keep watching Primera liga

yeah! you keep doing that .....real madrid are truely an awesome team:rolleyes::p:D

bring on barca......again

Dirty0900

03-11-2009, 05:35 AM

I'll be impressed if Man Who bear Milan 4-0 tonight;)

big screen satellite

03-11-2009, 07:59 AM

I'll be impressed if Man Who bear Milan 4-0 tonight;)

i'll be impressed if a bear is involved ;)

i'll take 3-0....

i'd rather beat Liverpoo on Sat tbh....

Rog

03-11-2009, 08:06 AM

same here, i would swop last nights result to beat u-shited on saturday;)

chuck

03-14-2009, 03:09 PM

i'll be impressed if a bear is involved ;)

i'll take 3-0....

i'd rather beat Liverpoo on Sat tbh....

Ouch. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/7922069.stm)

Dirty0900

03-14-2009, 05:05 PM

Come on then Matt, come and defend your useless bunch. You'll still win the league like, but everyone else had a great laugh today!

Rog

03-14-2009, 05:23 PM

:D it was a pleasure watching liverpool rip united a new arsehole and shove their fans inflated ego's right up it;)

BeautifulBurnout

03-15-2009, 06:58 AM

:D it was a pleasure watching liverpool rip united a new arsehole and shove their fans inflated ego's right up it;)

My word. What a match. What a joy. :D

Rog

03-15-2009, 03:42 PM

united will most likely still win the premiership but i really enjoyed it!
still trying to get hold of 2 of my united mates who won't return my calls:D:D:D:D:D

Tiger

03-15-2009, 05:36 PM

i enjoyed dossena's chip for the fourth in front of an half empty stretford end...............well, after all its a long drive home; that and fergie being so angry with the result the purpleness of his nose had spread to his whole face :D although according to him utd were the better team!

big screen satellite

03-16-2009, 02:49 AM

I'm here...

to defend my team...

Except i can't because i don't actually know what happened.

They simply fell apart (combined with Liverpool being resurgent). I would have taken 2-1 defeat, but being humiliated 4-1 at home by our biggest rivals hurts - it hurts bad, and will take something to get over - I'd rather have got knocked out of Europe than lose to Liverpool at home - seriously...

I have a couple of possible explanations

1. United were complacent - and assumed a draw would have been enough

2. Liverpool so needed to win that they played their socks off.

3. Liverpool were still on a crest of the wave that was the Real Madrid result (they too, a big club must be reeling a bit)

4. United's defence, which was at fault for three goals, and a sending off was also so complacent after the long run of results... this showed

5. Vidic has been bribed by Mourihno to scupper our season after not being banned for 3 games.

United should still win the league, but the difference between losing 4-1 and say 2-1 at home is massive... and it could psychologically harm them - its certainly harmed me!!

I wish I could brush it off but its not that easy... Fergie thinks we played well, possibly in parts, but it wasn't good enough, and 4-1 was flattering but it happened and Liverpool deserved the win - lets just leave it at that. Rafa will be smiling, lets hope at the end of the season or in the Champions League we can shove the result back in Rafa's bearded face.

the only concelation should come at the end of the season when we should reclaim the league but if this has damaged the team then that is something to worry about... we need a game soon to bounce back

not a good weekend to be supporting the Red Devils.. :(

matt

03-16-2009, 03:45 AM

I'd rather have got knocked out of Europe than lose to Liverpool at home - seriously...That's an absolutely ridiculous thing to say (and I've seen Liverpool fans offer similar sentiments that they'd rather have lost to Madrid if it meant they could win at Old Trafford). Why would you rather win a more or less meaningless league game than progress to the Quarter Finals of the Champions League? So you lost a game at home to one of your rivals, so what? In the big scheme of things you're still going to win the league and you're still very much in the mix for the FA Cup & Champions League and could end this season with an unprecedented Quintuple.

And if the Liverpool fans still bring this game up at the end of the season then just point to their empty Trophy Cabinet and your overflowing one and see who laughs longest...

Tiger

03-16-2009, 01:28 PM

then just point to their empty Trophy Cabinet

without wishing to be too much of a smartarse, but when you win the European Cup 5 times you get to keep it for good..............................and anyway its March, the season's far from over

matt

03-16-2009, 02:41 PM

without wishing to be too much of a smartarse, but when you win the European Cup 5 times you get to keep it for good..............................and anyway its March, the season's far from overI support Spurs so what would I know about such things? ;)

Rog

03-16-2009, 05:37 PM

Why would you rather win a more or less meaningless league game than progress to the Quarter Finals of the Champions League? ...

not being a supporter of either team you wouldn't understand.....and i'm not patronising you or anything, that's just the way it is.......as i said, one of my good mates who's a manc won't even answer his phone so i can take the piss:D i''l get him the weekend

matt

03-17-2009, 02:31 AM

not being a supporter of either team you wouldn't understand.....and i'm not patronising you or anything, that's just the way it is.......as i said, one of my good mates who's a manc won't even answer his phone so i can take the piss:D i''l get him the weekendWell, there is the Arsenal thing, but I'd take losing to Arsenal everytime if it meant Spurs were winning League Titles and European Cups.

Plus there seems to be echoes of Welsh Rugby in that for years there was this mentality that as long as we beat the English it was a successful season, even if we lost all the other games. Thankfully we seem to have left that behind now (although there's still a minority that think that way). And while it will be great if we beat Ireland on Saturday and so win the Triple Crown I'd much rather we had put more points on Italy and so also be crowned champions if we were to win on the weekend

big screen satellite

03-17-2009, 03:37 AM

not being a supporter of either team you wouldn't understand.....and i'm not patronising you or anything, that's just the way it is.......as i said, one of my good mates who's a manc won't even answer his phone so i can take the piss:D i''l get him the weekend

i was exactly like that with my mum (who supports Liverpool) i didn't speak to her all weekend.

its more than just a game in the league for fans of these two clubs - see Rooney & (in previous years) Gary Neville's comments to the game's build up

As a United fan, i would rather win the Premier League every season, than the Champions League - i don't care what Fergie's priority is - the League to me is THE most important thing, and losing so heavily to the biggest rivals is THE worst you can get

beating Inter Milan - so what - its still just a knock out club competition, the League is a long fought out campaign which pits you against the same teams every year which you always want to beat. Simple.

Rog

03-17-2009, 06:37 AM

couldn't have put it better myself! for us the premiership is the holy grail.....so what if we beat a few spanish and italian teams? It takes nearly 9 months of football to win the premiership......

sanblaster

03-18-2009, 09:39 AM

IsiliRunite

03-18-2009, 11:59 AM

Keep in mind that some fans like beating their rivals and some fans like knowing their team has beaten the best competition available.

big screen satellite

03-19-2009, 04:00 AM

5 more years of Rafa...

he won't last two more seasons, unless they can win the league in that time...

I ask LFC fans... what would you rather win this year / next year The Premiership or the Champions League...??

big screen satellite

03-19-2009, 04:16 AM

Funny.... in Spain everybody would agree that winning the Champions League would be far more difficult, if only for the level of the other competitors.... If you ask any Barça/Madrid fan they'd choose winning the European Cup over the League any day (at least I would!).

It is kinda more unpredictable, because its a cup, (well in the final stages it is)...

I mean, the Champions League is a money making exercise first... because you play 6 games and only really need to win 3/4 of them to qualify for the knock outs... almost always the best teams get through... then they get to play a 'lesser' side by being top seeded... its all so that the best teams get to the final - and yes its harder to beat the best teams... but you get two chances, home and away... its too random really to have fans get passionate about it as they do over 'home' league football.

League football has always been the 'bread and butter' of all clubs in England, and the 'home' league is a harder longer fought out campaign and during it you get to play several teams that you just never want to lose to...

LFC had never played Real Madrid at Anfield before - so there was no rivalry, yes they were upset when they lost 4-0 but it won't have hurt so much as losing to say Athletico Madrid or Barca in the league... surely?

Last years final when Man United beat Chelsea was truly exciting, but I still think that if that game was to determine who would win the Premier League it'd have more passion and more riding on it...

Everyone hates Man United (mainly because of success and popularity), but they have 5 big rivals that MUFC fans 'hate', but none are European beacuse we don't play them often enough and most of the time when we do its just in the Champions League, League stages...i.e. unimportant games...

United in my opinion want to beat these teams in this order (mainly in the League): Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, Leeds

no one else comes close...

I'd take winning the Premiership each season over anything else... (provided Arsenal, Liverpool & Chelsea don't win the European Cup!) I might be in the minority, but i think the League is still No. 1 for most United fans...

stimpee

03-20-2009, 03:31 AM

That's an absolutely ridiculous thing to say (and I've seen Liverpool fans offer similar sentiments that they'd rather have lost to Madrid if it meant they could win at Old Trafford). Why would you rather win a more or less meaningless league game than progress to the Quarter Finals of the Champions League? So you lost a game at home to one of your rivals, so what? In the big scheme of things you're still going to win the league and you're still very much in the mix for the FA Cup & Champions League and could end this season with an unprecedented Quintuple.Sheffield Wednesday have done the double over Sheff Utd for the first time since 1914 but i'd swap that for promotion to the premier league any day. It meant a lot to beat them but theyre still the ones in the playoff positions and we're stuck in midtable. I know its not quite the same...

Liverpool have to enjoy that theyre the most successfull european team of the last 5 years and that theyve done the double over United. But United will win the league, which is something Liverpool havent done since 1990, evn though theyve managed to win everything else in the years since then.

Rog

03-20-2009, 06:11 AM

I ask LFC fans... what would you rather win this year / next year The Premiership or the Champions League...??

you already know the answer to that one matt!:p:D

BeautifulBurnout

03-22-2009, 04:17 PM

Deary me oh lore! :D

First we hammer ManU, and now we thrash Villa 5-0.

Ok, so ManU have a game in hand, but there is only one point in it at the top of the table now.

Tsk. Tsk. :p

big screen satellite

05-14-2009, 07:41 AM

18 ALL

unless you think we'll not get 1 point from our last two games...

i'm counting my chickens now...

stimpee

05-14-2009, 08:36 AM

Well, Arsenal away is one that you could lose, but then you've got Hull who are desperate for points to stay up. I don't hear any fat lady singing yet.

//\/\/

05-14-2009, 08:39 AM

from my point of view, it'd be handy if the arse pulled off a surprise so you'd have to make sure of doing the job on hull...

...but i'd be surprised if you slipped up at the weekend!

Dunwho

05-14-2009, 08:55 AM

Heres for a big slip up this weekend and a heroic hull win... because hull will have nothing to lose and United will not know what hit them...

..but this is only on the condition that Newcastle win their next game, otherwise United can thrash the hell outa hull and i would not give a toss

big screen satellite

05-14-2009, 09:20 AM

Well, Arsenal away is one that you could lose, but then you've got Hull who are desperate for points to stay up. I don't hear any fat lady singing yet.

well we're at home and we'll get the trophy if we can get a point at HOME on Saturday, we've only been presented the trophy once at OT in the 11 times we've won it - so the boys will certainly be up for it....

you seriously think that United will lose their last two games having just won 7 in a row...?

i feel you and the whole of anfield are wishfully thinking....

i see a West Brom upset on Sunday anyways...

big screen satellite

05-18-2009, 04:00 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/philmcnulty/2009/05/man_utd_are_deserved_champions.html

"Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez grabbed a few more headlines on Saturday morning (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/may/16/rafael-benitez-liverpool-manchester-united)with a somewhat churlish - make that mystifying - claim that the best team does not always win the title, it just means they have more points than anyone else.

Not so Rafa. Not so at all. Any argument is always won by the team holding the trophy and no-one can seriously discredit them."

thanks for the congrats Rafa, Fergie will be thinking of you whilst on 'Holiday' in Rome next week :D