Beautiful Burnout - Art Jam, New York

[TheBang]

As announced in the broadcast, and on underworldlive.com:

"We are pleased to announce that from the 1-15 August the ArtJam will be arriving in New York!
Beautiful Burnout is a multi-media exhibition/installation of video, art, photography and text at the Jacobson Howard Gallery (http://www.jacobsonhoward.com/) in Madison Avenue."

This corresponds with when they will be there for All Points West Festival.

John Warwicker and Toru Yoshikawa, who both contributed to the Makuhari Art Jam, will also be contributing. John writes some more about it at Tomato (click the headline to expand the article):

http://www.tomato.co.uk/?p=1621
http://www.tomato.co.uk/?p=1626

Wish I could be there. Have fun, New York.

[galama]

can't fucking wait

[Caprice]

should we have a "meet up" then of dirties?
I had New York City as one of my travel spots this summer. By then funds should be better.

how about it?

[potatobroth]

oh nice. I'll be at this for sure.

[geoff]

Awesome. Will there be a full-on UW concert as part of this event? (~2 hr. set?)

EDIT: Hmm... the Oblivion Ball was in a converted aircraft hangar; this one is in an art gallery... so probably not? :)

Well, i'm with nosajmunson, hoping for an impromptu gig elsewhere in the city.

[nosajmunson]

The Wifey & I are going to the Big Apple for our Anniversary in August. The Timing is perfect. See UW at the All Points Fest then go to this. Maybe R&K will swing by to put on an impromtu gig before/after the All Points Fest?

Here's to hoping....

[negative1]

i'm there for sure..

not missing out this time...

see all of you there!!!!

later
-1

[qirex]

That's excellent news!! Whenever Underworld comes to your hometown it's a event that cannot be missed.
Is this process open to the public? Can you meet the guys?

[ndrwrld]

as i understand it, you may see rick and or karl...good luck guessing what days.

[TheBang]

More details on underworldlive.com now:

http://www.underworldlive.com/artjam

Sounds exciting:

The ArtJam in the JacobsonHoward Gallery will be consistent with its general aims, process
and behaviour but will configure itself and respond to the unique attributes of the space,
its context (New York City) and the length of its duration (2 weeks, August 1-15). Unlike
the Makuhari this ArtJam will be a multi-media installation of video, sound, sculpture,
drawing, painting, photography and text/writing. And unlike the Makuhari it will ‘start’ with
the space already ‘in action’. From thereon the space will be in constant flux with work being
created on site, positioned, repositioned, altered, removed and then replaced and reconfigured
once more. Forages into the city to gather material will also be made, brought back to the
space and reconfigured. Our term for this process is the Joycean riverrun, with all its elastic
linguistic forms and connotations.

This process will be continuously documented throughout the duration of the installation
and the photographs displayed as part of the installation. This will also be streamed onto the
internet as part of our continuous transparency of our process, blurring the published work
between the physical and the virtual connecting many different cultural communities in this
activity (as we have done for the past 5 years).

The participants of the ArtJam New York will be Rick, Karl (on the 7th and 11th) and John
with Simon Taylor (tomato) and Naomi Troski (sculptor) who were essential contributors
of the Makuhari ArtJam (and will be present throughout) as well as local artists Richard
Schwamb, Laura Schwamb and Graham Wood who are part of our ‘extended family’.
The inclusion of ‘local’ artists, such as Toru Yoshikawa at the Makuhari, is an essential
part of our inclusive process.

Graham Wood's no longer at Tomato?

[jose m]

i'm there for sure..

not missing out this time...

see all of you there!!!!

later
-1

not if you're seen first pal !

[negative1]

not if you're seen first pal !

funny, how schizophrenic i am?

i know they have the capability to put out brilliant
stuff, their artwork, the artjams, the book of jams,
their covers, all are quite cool..

but what actually gets released is puzzlingly low key,
and substandard (videos, singles, etc)...

thats why i hold out hope that this will be exciting?

see, i'm not all doom and gloom , you know..

later
-1

[jose m]

i'm sure it wont live up to your expectations but just knowing you'll be there might push rick and karl to try and reach new levels of creativity and, in so doing, live up to the potential you see in them !

[negative1]

i'm sure it wont live up to your expectations but just knowing you'll be there might push rick and karl to try and reach new levels of creativity and, in so doing, live up to the potential you see in them !

you mean, they might actually live up to the standards that they
raised for themselves, with their other installations and concerts
(see japan).....

imagine that...

later
-1

[Caprice]

When should be the best time to go there? To the Art Show?

I want to go, but I want to make it part of my "summer vacation", so I am trying to plan ahead


thanks

[TheBang]

When should be the best time to go there? To the Art Show?
If I were there, I would go on August 7th and/or 11th. :)

[TheBang]

As posted by Jason Kedgely, preparations for the art jam:

http://www.tomato.co.uk/wp-content/2008/07/don_spray.jpg
http://www.tomato.co.uk/wp-content/2008/07/ken_spray.jpg

[potatobroth]

there really should be more paper down :P

can't wait for the show.

[TheBang]

Art Print: Beautiful Burnout, 2008 handmade silkscreen on rag paper, signed,
limited edition of 100, 37 x 29 inches.

http://www.tomato.co.uk/wp-content/2008/07/artjam-artprint-tomato.jpg

[dubman]

beautiful.
i want one

[Dirty0900]

beautiful.
i want one

That won't be cheap...

[dubman]

does it say anywhere how not cheap it will be?

[TheBang]

Posted by Simon:

Part of the ongoing typewriter series. This one included in the Underworld ArtJam, NYC.

http://www.tomato.co.uk/wp-content/2008/07/evidence.gif

[negative1]

Art Print: Beautiful Burnout, 2008 handmade silkscreen on rag paper, signed,
limited edition of 100, 37 x 29 inches.

http://www.tomato.co.uk/wp-content/2008/07/artjam-artprint-tomato.jpg

i'm scared to ask how much!

later
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[negative1]

ok,
here's the plan..
aug 1st - can't go..working (darnit)
aug 2nd - go check it out..if i can get a chance
aug 7th - start early in the morning go to new york (hang around for awhile)
aug 8th - go to see uw in festival in new jersey
aug 9th - go to see uw in festival in baltimore

have a crazy, good time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
later
-1

[TheBang]

Live Webcam, coming soon

http://www.underworldlive.com/artjam

Too bad I'll be out of town away from my computer from Aug. 1-3

[TheBang]

The webcam is live (http://www.underworldlive.com/artjam)! (Supposedly. I haven't gotten it to work yet.)

Edit: It's live. Some kind of sounds and music playing. And it looks like I'm looking at a curtain.

Edit 2: Sounds like the Anti-rom soundtrack.

I think there might be a problem with the reference movie on the website. Edit: I figured it out. The reference movie doesn't have autoplay (or a controller) enabled. After you click "View Live Webcam", you THEN have to double-click the resulting QuickTime logo (may be a white screen for some people) in order to initiate the connection to the streaming server.

If you can't get the stream to work, try this:

1. Open QuickTime Player
2. Go to File -> Open URL
3. Enter rtsp://a140.l10230139.c102.g.lq.akamaistream.net/D/140/102/v0001/reflector:30139

Edit 3: Definitely stuff from the 1996-ish era, which I think first appeared on Anti-rom. The stuff currently playing was played at the end of the Roskilde concert.

Edit 4: Continued playlist:

Good Morning Cockerel
Unknown (something ambient)
Bungalow with Stairs (ambient portion only, 19 minutes long!)
More ambient (cool piece with deep bells)
Simple Peal (more bells!)
Jumping Then Cran
Another unknown ambient (wow, this one could be a movie soundtrack)
and back to the beginning, the Anti-rom stuff

[Jan]

The broadcast is beautiful... very nice music! I haven't heard the Antirom sound track before.

[TheBang]

The broadcast is beautiful... very nice music! I haven't heard the Antirom sound track before.
I reviewed my Oblivion Ball videos, and the track I'm calling the antirom stuff is actually the full soundtrack from a Tomato film. But parts of it and samples were also used on the Antirom and in the 1996 tour. I'm not sure which came first.

The movie is the one that has 2-3 separate screens of various images from a road trip across America. The imagery is of various things on the side of the road, not footage of the road itself (that's the M25 movie). It's the footage that plays during the Neu and Adriano Celentano tracks on the 2008-04-23 webcast. Does anyone know what the name of the movie is?

[jose m]

i've got a webcam set up on me doing my back bedroom...........with capital gold on the radio if anyones interested?

[TheBang]

Art Print: Beautiful Burnout, 2008 handmade silkscreen on rag paper, signed,
limited edition of 100, 37 x 29 inches.

http://www.tomato.co.uk/wp-content/2008/07/artjam-artprint-tomato.jpg

Limited edition of 100 Signed Karl Hyde, Rick Smith, John Warwicker
Contact gallery for sales information

Also:

Rick Smith
Liquids, 2008 (http://www.jacobsonhoward.com/files/images/fluids%20(1).jpg)
Digital prints on cotton rag
34 x 36 inches
Edition 1 of 15

Installation in progress (http://www.tomato.co.uk/wp-content/2008/08/artjam-ny01.jpg), posted by John to Tomato's site.

[negative1]

darn missed it..

'the gallery is now closed'..

later
-1

[DaddyAdv]

/edit: The Bang already mentioned it: lovely ambient UW tunes as backgroudn music

[dubman]

yeah ive got it open in another window so i'm listening while doing other things. it's really quite nice. i recognize simple peal... hope they release the other stuff too?

pictures of the gallery and setting up are just beautiful. looks immense and cohesive. really wish i could see it but im happy that theyre doing stuff in the galleries again. i'm also afraid to ask how much those posters go for :o

[lloyd]

[21:45] <lloyd> would be nice if there was some text about what's going on and who's who etc
[21:45] <yannick> yeah we need karl to show notes on the cam

:D

[the-star-samurai]

Mmmmm~ if I can't go to their Baltimore set next Saturday, well, this is making up for that loss. :)
The music was a nice surprise with the webcam. Didn't expect it!

[swannman]

Someone recording the background music?

[TheBang]

Of course. So far though, it's just been the aforelisted songs on a one hour-ish loop.

[holden]

Such a lovely project!

Been watching Slow Bells video...very contemplative. At first i thought the baloons were digital because of the linearity of the lights flashing on them. But looks like it's just an amazing lightshow...way to go, H!

[m.g.]

I love the Slow Bells video... and the audio too ;)

[TheBang]

Yeah, that is a very nice video. It's from the balloon drop at Rock Werchter. Must've been filming with a high-speed camera.

[TheBang]

This explains the piece that's being shown on the webcam the past couple days:


ArtJam New York. Work-in-progress, 2
john
Saturday, 7:19 AM
jhg/nyc. August 1- August 15

High Pigment Oil Stick on Aluminum Panels
8′ x 8′. 2008

This drawing accumulates over time (the duration of the exhibition) documenting the movement
of visitors within the gallery. Everyone that visits the gallery is recorded.

THe work is under a skylight so the tonality of the metal changes constantly through
the day. The intense colour field of Naomi’s painting (to the right) also effects the surface
of the aluminum. Naomi’s painting will have a colour sequence - green to orange to yellow
to light blue violet, all of which will effect my ‘ground’.

http://www.tomato.co.uk/wp-content/2008/08/jw-jhg01a.jpg

[crazysugarboy]

Yeah, that is a very nice video. It's from the balloon drop at Rock Werchter. Must've been filming with a high-speed camera.

What an absolutely beautiful video:) I love the way that time is frozen everytime the big booming bell/drum is heard

[TheBang]

Has anyone actually gone to the Art Jam yet? Aug. 7 maybe?

[Arakias]

I have yet to go, but if you try and go Aug 7th it might be best to wait towards the end of the day as Karl and/or Rick are supposed to be there in the evening for the Songs for Tibet cd release (this thread (http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showthread.php?t=9088&page=3))

[nosajmunson]

Our flight lands at 2:35pm. Haul ass to check in at the Hotel, then onto the gallery. Is there going to be any other dirts for sure there on Thursday 8-7?. Anyone want to discuss a dirty meet on Thursday night after the gallery closes?

[TheBang]

Karl and John are on the camera right now, talking to each other. They're discussing this print:

http://www.underworldlive.com/artjam/mainColumnParagraphs/04/content_files/file/isdirt.jpg

and Karl is now adding new marks to it. Karl spent about 10 minutes working on the print.

Everything is Dirt & All the Dirt is Beautiful, #1 - #4
Karl Hyde
Digital Print on cotton rag paper, 1m x 1.4m, 2008.

Everything is Dirt & All the Dirt is Beautiful is the first in a yet unnamed suite of 30 prints.
Each print comes in an edition of 10. 4 prints to be shown at the gallery.
Each print to have additional drawn marks, painting, unique to that print and
added during the show.

Edit: A wooden airplane just flew by the camera. How odd.

http://www.aloha.com/~tabanger/underworld/bbartjam/airplane.jpg

Edit 2: Looks like Rick just arrived in the gallery (straight from the airport? He's carrying a duffel bag). He and Karl had a hug. Karl continues to work on the print.

http://www.aloha.com/~tabanger/underworld/bbartjam/karljohnrick.jpg

Edit 3: John, Rick, and Karl now signing the limited-edition Beautiful Burnout ArtJam prints (http://www.underworldlive.com/artjam/mainColumnParagraphs/02/content_files/file0/MG_4783new_web.jpg).

http://www.aloha.com/~tabanger/underworld/bbartjam/signing1.jpg
http://www.aloha.com/~tabanger/underworld/bbartjam/signing2.jpg
http://www.aloha.com/~tabanger/underworld/bbartjam/signing3.jpg
http://www.aloha.com/~tabanger/underworld/bbartjam/signing4.jpg

http://www.aloha.com/~tabanger/underworld/bbartjam/randk.jpg
http://www.aloha.com/~tabanger/underworld/bbartjam/karlatwork.jpg

[negative1]

schedule : (took the day off from work, ha! i'm getting paid for this)..

pick up rental car in morning : drive for 2hours
----------------------------------------------
look around for parking
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i will be there promptly at 10am or before...

====================================
i have 1 notebook, and a pen ...

wander around gallery for 8 hours.....until 6pm

oh yeah, i guess i need to eat or something in the middle..

head back, and prepare for the 2 festivals coming up..

later
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[lloyd]

Rick there now too

[TheBang]

Well, I called the gallery to ask about the limited edition art prints.

The first 25 are $1800 each, and the last 75 are $2000 each. (Not sure why the last ones are more expensive.)

I also asked the staff to have the band wave to the webcam.

http://www.aloha.com/~tabanger/underworld/bbartjam/karlsayshi.jpg

[lloyd]

:)

some more screen dumps at my blog

1800 dollar... about 2euroandchange

Camera gets moved by hand between views every now and then, one of the reasons of the 'arty' angle right now I guess.

[negative1]

yup, that sounds like the going price for the prints...oh well....

maybe there are other things for sale there....

thebang, were you able to get any more information from the staff?
it seems you're in pretty good with them about whats going on...
any details about tomorrow??

i will have my pda, which has web access....so i'll be able to check up
here...

later
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[TheBang]

thebang, were you able to get any more information from the staff?
it seems you're in pretty good with them about whats going on...
Haha, not particularly. I just call the phone number and ask them simple questions. I don't want to bother them too much. Especially since it's not like I'll be making any use of the information. I'd say give them a call, but there's no one there now, and you'll be there at opening time tomorrow, so you might as well just ask them in person when you get there.

You should totally take your OwB and/or a LHN album with you and have John (cause of the artwork) and R&K sign it.

[negative1]

oh, don't worry thebang,
i'm taking a lot more than that...

anyways, i'm off...i don't know how much i can post or when
i will for the next few days.......lets see how tired i am !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

later
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[phaseblue]

`Art of Peace` press conference...coming soon!!! :)

[Arakias]

whats soon? you mean before the 6 pm cd-release party thing?

[phaseblue]

Yeah. Just watching everyone set up the table, chairs and such builds anticipation!

Unfortunately it will be too late for me to watch it!

[joethelion]

there doesn't happen to be a web page where you can buy the prints is there?
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I haven't been able to be online recently

and I'm kinda ticked that I can't go to New York

[Lx_Nen]

Well, watching the press conference on the webcam isn't all that enlightening, since we're still hearing the looped soundtrack rather than what's being said.

[phaseblue]

Well, watching the press conference on the webcam isn't all that enlightening, since we're still hearing the looped soundtrack rather than what's being said.

Yeah, it`d be interesting to hear what`s going on.

[TheBang]

there doesn't happen to be a web page where you can buy the prints is there?
I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I haven't been able to be online recently
If you're interested in buying the prints, just call the gallery at (212) 570-2362 and they will take down your information.

[gillenium]

Looks like Karl's doing an interview right now. Hope we get to read it soon!... or watch it, the camera man's there, too.

[lloyd]

hmms, missed that due to work
not that a interview with no sound is that interesting..
Or was is subtitled by karl on his notepad?

[negative1]

ok, dudes and dudettes, about 1 million things happened today..

i'm still in new york, at the apple store (for internet access),
i'm heading back for the after hour party..

yes, i got to hang out with karl most of the morning,
and boy do i have a lot to say...

sorry, no pictures, or recordings though.....

wow , is there a lot going on today...

more to come..

later
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[TheBang]

Can't wait for the report, -1. Sounds like you were a lucky boy today.

[negative1]

car rental : $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
gas money : $$$$$$
toll money to ny : $$$

getting paid time off from work, to go to ny,
hang out with karl, rick, and john warwicker, and
the rest of the tomato people : priceless

i am SO TIRED RIGHT NOW, i can hardly type....
i have to sleep for a few hours, and then take off
to new jersey for the festival tommorow, and then
go to baltimore the day after that..

i have about 8 pages of handwritten notes....but you know
what, maybe we need a different approach....i don't even
know how i'm going to collate this data...

and does anyone really care?????

most of it is just my personal musings about what was
going on, and how it happened, etc...it was more like
a lot of conversations..............

i think i'll just do the approach : from a journalists point
of view, and leave myself out of it......so it doesn't come
across as braggy, pretentious, or biased....

we'll see...

oh , and Thebang, and lloyd, check your pm..
later
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[negative1]

quick notes :
finally saw "van halen van halen rock band"

met john warwicker, danielle, their tour manager rick?, guys from their visual team, etc..

one of the interviews with karl, were the guys from SPIN magazine...

karl finished another piece of artwork.

john warwicker finished his piece also...

rick popped in an out of the exhibit a few times today....

photography can be fun...

more to come..

later
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[dubman]

so jealous that i couldnt bring myself to reply the first time, but goddamn man, what a time for you. congrats!

[grady]

Can't wait to read more about the experience -1. I've had the webcam up all day everyday this week at work. Perhaps you walked around in frame at one point or another.

[galama]

Day 7...a beautiful day. I walked around the city building up energy to spread at the gallery and what a pleasant place it is....full of Karl, John and the rest of the crew(didn't see Rick though). I witnessed the piece of Day 7 coming to life, spoke with Karl and John about some of the works there, pleasant pleasant times. Negative 1 too bad we missed each other bro, but next time..

[negative1]

Day 7...a beautiful day. I walked around the city building up energy to spread at the gallery and what a pleasant place it is....full of Karl, John and the rest of the crew(didn't see Rick though). I witnessed the piece of Day 7 coming to life, spoke with Karl and John about some of the works there, pleasant pleasant times. Negative 1 too bad we missed each other bro, but next time..

did we miss each other? hmm....checks back through memory..

later
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[Arakias]

oh, so whats the photo policy for the gallery? i want to bring my dslr and take pics... of course i am comfortable with no flash, just want to know if photos are allowed at all.

[Dirty0900]

Edit 4: Continued playlist:

Good Morning Cockerel
Unknown (something ambient)
Bungalow with Stairs (ambient portion only, 19 minutes long!)
More ambient (cool piece with deep bells)
Simple Peal (more bells!)
Jumping Then Cran
Another unknown ambient (wow, this one could be a movie soundtrack)
and back to the beginning, the Anti-rom stuff

Anyone ripped this to the internet?

[TheBang]

It'll be up later, in, you know, the usual place.

[m.g.]

Well, I called the gallery to ask about the limited edition art prints.

The first 25 are $1800 each, and the last 75 are $2000 each. (Not sure why the last ones are more expensive.)
It seems that the price of the BB prints dropped now to 1200$ each... (as it's said here (http://www.jacobsonhoward.com/) )

[dubman]

the uki-gumo piece on the artjam page is pretty stunning.

[Dirty0900]

It'll be up later, in, you know, the usual place.

Wink wink nudge nudge;)

[txjaxx]

I got to experience the Art Jam today. What a great time! If you were watching around 3:00 or 4:00 today, you probably saw me being painted by John Warwicker (what an honor). He's a doing a cool piece on metal that you can't really see too well from the webcam. Me and a couple of other guys talked to him for about half an hour before I realized who he was. He's a really nice guy and quite entertaining to listen to, in addition to his amazing art skills. I got to ask him about some of my favorite Tomato pieces while he painted us into this piece he's working on.

The gallery space is cool - there's an opening wall space with the title of the exhibition in gold print. Then there are 2 video installations, one of which is the guy jumping thru glass from Push and then the other is a longer loop of various things. There are speakers throughout playing the music from the webcam.
Then the main space has several framed photos and the live art pieces on the cam. I'm probably going to buy a print tomorrow - they're very nice. I'm going back tomorrow to see how the painting has changed and hopefully I'll get to meet Karl and Rick. Oh, and The Floating World is still coming out - apparently very soon.

[lloyd]

I've linked a couple of flickr streams and (p)reviews at my blog.
Also a couple of recent interviews related to the artjam. All are interesting to read because they are not the do you still like to sing BS? and what is your fav colour? Q&A's

[crank]

I guess UW took in a show tonite whilst in NYC (scroll to the bottom)::
http://www.ateaseweb.com/2008/08/08/radiohead-live-at-all-points-west-night-1-live-report/

[TheBang]

They opened for Radiohead at All-Points West.

[negative1]

They opened for Radiohead at All-Points West.


they DID NOT open for anybody....
technically, all the groups just played independantly
for the time slots they were allocated...

coincidentally, they were on before radiohead..

later
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[lloyd]

just another festival line-up...

http://www.spin.com/articles/underworld-unveil-new-art-exhibit-nyc
with video interview with karl and John

[Dirty0900]

Very much like this quote from an interview:

CJ: How would you describe ArtJam to someone who has never heard of it?
Karl: We’ve got this track we do live and it’s called You Do Scribble which comes directly from that. It’s a group of friends that have been jamming together for 27 years now, with music and arts. When we get in a room we feed off each other and inspire each other to make things that we wouldn’t make when we’re on our own. On the walls there will be things that we’ve made, photographs we’ve taken, paintings, drawings that we’ve done over the last year, things that we’ve jammed on the Internet, lifted directly off our website. It’s quite fun. I spent five years in art school and I loved it, I really loved it, but showing your work in galleries in the 70s felt really elitist and I didn’t like that. I come from a quiet family that never went to any art galleries. I loved them but it really intimidated all my mates. In those days if you didn’t go to art school you didn’t know anything about art. I didn’t like that, so I abandoned it for 10 years and turned to music and I thought I’d make it on the radio. And then Rick and I met up with these guys who were different sorts of artists who really inspired us before we met Tomato. What was cool about Tomato was not only were they doing graphic design and advertising but they were real fine artists. They were making stuff just because they felt like it not because they were getting paid for it. That was really cool and really inspiring. There is just something great about working with visual art that takes you on a completely different trip.

[dubman]

they DID NOT open for anybody....
technically, all the groups just played independantly
for the time slots they were allocated...

coincidentally, they were on before radiohead..

later
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lol settle down there...

anyway. for the last song of the second encore radiohead dedicated "everything in its right place" to Underworld for being "a big influence on us"

[negative1]

just another festival line-up...

http://www.spin.com/articles/underworld-unveil-new-art-exhibit-nyc
with video interview with karl and John

that is exactly what was being taped by SPIN in the afternoon,
they did ask more questions, but probably editted it for space..

(ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH...........thats me at 0:14-0:16 mark,
sitting down in the corner with the hand on my head)...

whats up with the namechecking, and the description of
the afterparty? to their credit the video is excellent.

a transcript of it , would have been much more informative..


later
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[crank]

Very much like this quote from an interview:

CJ: How would you describe ArtJam to someone who has never heard of it?
Karl: We’ve got this track we do live and it’s called You Do Scribble which comes directly from that. It’s a group of friends that have been jamming together for 27 years now, with music and arts. When we get in a room we feed off each other and inspire each other to make things that we wouldn’t make when we’re on our own. On the walls there will be things that we’ve made, photographs we’ve taken, paintings, drawings that we’ve done over the last year, things that we’ve jammed on the Internet, lifted directly off our website. It’s quite fun. I spent five years in art school and I loved it, I really loved it, but showing your work in galleries in the 70s felt really elitist and I didn’t like that. I come from a quiet family that never went to any art galleries. I loved them but it really intimidated all my mates. In those days if you didn’t go to art school you didn’t know anything about art. I didn’t like that, so I abandoned it for 10 years and turned to music and I thought I’d make it on the radio. And then Rick and I met up with these guys who were different sorts of artists who really inspired us before we met Tomato. What was cool about Tomato was not only were they doing graphic design and advertising but they were real fine artists. They were making stuff just because they felt like it not because they were getting paid for it. That was really cool and really inspiring. There is just something great about working with visual art that takes you on a completely different trip.

Honestly, it makes perfect sense to me and I totally agree with it.
thanks for this.
crank.

[dubman]

man the media misquoting karl seems to happen an awful lot these days. wonder whats happening..

[TheBang]

Anyone else having problems connecting to the live gallery feed at the moment?

[lloyd]

won't connect nope :(

[Chris M]

man the media misquoting karl seems to happen an awful lot these days. wonder whats happening..

right, not in this case alone but, this is just one of many reasons why journalism as a whole is on the decline within the last several years (even with news networks like CNN). lots of inconsistencies, lack of due diligence, and quite often unreliable sources.


on a side note i was able to make it out to the gallery on thursday when spin was doing their interview w/karl... stay tuned for pics and words:)

[Arakias]

i found a few photos on this flickr page (http://flickr.com/photos/sachyn/sets/72157606648798270/).

[lloyd]

stream is working again.

[negative1]

since i intend to post some more interesting observations,
and details....i will posting in the 'process' forum, as i feel
thats a bit more appropriate....and i don't want to clutter
up this thread..

there are 3 types of information
-------------------------------------[public]-----------------
this is known information, such as the press conferences,
the artwork, the prints, etc..... i have no problem with
passing on this information....

============================[personal]============
well, this is a little bit more of information from my perspective,
and my thoughts about the events, and what happened etc..

still it won't be ALL the details, since i do prefer some privacy...

==============================[private]===========
this is stuff that was spoken to me by various members of the
group, the staff, and other tomato people, and i will not divulge
any of it, since it's really their information, and not mine...

it's not like i signed an NDA (non disclosure) or anything, but
how would you like it if, it personal information about you,
your projects, or anything else was given out, and shared
without your consent.....especially if it spoken in a shared
friendly manner?.............so you won't hear much about these,
or if you ask a question, i might politely decline it...

anyways, there's really a lot of cool stuff to look forward
to....i hope you check out the postings once i have them
ready......

later
-1

[TheBang]

Looks like there was some kind of mixer tonight. The webcam was going till 9:30 PM New York time, and there were lots of people there. Karl left at about 5:00 PM, but John was there till later, mingling.

[nosajmunson]

I just got back home to Colorado. After spending 5 days in New York, the Art Jam was the highlight.

My wife & I were there Thursday night for quite a while. Meeting John W, Karl and Rick was fantastic. The gallery was amazing. The art was incredible. I drank too much wine and kept sneaking up to the roof to smoke.

Saturday we went back and hung out with John for over an hour while he painted his metal wall. Had some really great discussions about art. John was starting his "repairs" from the incident Thursday night. (Someone bumped into the wall and smeared everything. John wanted to kill him) He invited us to come back Monday to see the progress.

So, Monday, we went there as soon as the gallery opened to see John's "Finished Repairs". Karl and John were both there. The four of us hung out and talked. We all looked at Robert Motherwell's that the gallery had in storage.
Karl telling us stories about bars in Japan and his times in Denver!

Then the fire alarm went off. John didn't want to go out into the rain and he could stomach the evil loud fire alarm. Karl, A woman from the gallery, my wife and I had to run out through the back fire stair well. But then the bottom was locked. So we had to find another way out through the clothing boutique around the corner. We said our goodbyes and parted ways in the rain.

It was an incredible time. So, if the Tomato Crew and/or Karl and Rick ever read this:

Thank you so much for a wonderful, truly fantastic time!

-Jason & Amanda!

[nosajmunson]

P.S. - I have tons of pictures I want to post, but I don't want them out there for the whole Web. Just the Dirties. Anyone have any thoughts were to publish? The Tracker maybe?

[TheBang]

Sounds like a fun time. There IS an as-yet-unused Photos category on the tracker...

[txjaxx]

Here are my photos from my two stops to the Art Jam along with a few video clips:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20968123@N00/sets/72157606698258299/

Hope you enjoy, and I'd love to see other people's pics (not sure why you wouldn't want to share with "the whole web"). Again, I really enjoyed meeting Mr. Warwicker and I can't wait for more Tomato things and events in the US.

[nosajmunson]

I've posted some on Flickr. I will play with loading more into the Tracker.
I'm all for sharing with other dirties.
I simply didn't want "others" to get them and use them for something else. Plus there are a bunch with people I don't know and didn't really ask them if they'd mind. Karl and John on the other hand were fine with me snapping away.

Here you go:

08-07-2008:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29508411@N04/sets/72157606701172943/

08-09-2008
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29508411@N04/sets/72157606701236283/

08-11-2008
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29508411@N04/sets/72157606701315759/

[TheBang]

Very much enjoying the pictures and movies. Thanks!

[lloyd]

this is a cool piece of art http://www.flickr.com/photos/20968123@N00/2758509550/in/set-72157606698258299/
and a fine pic of it too.

[switchbladesusie]

I love John's metal wall piece. I just love the psychology of it and how the human brain finds human features in abstract things even though there may not be anything there at all.
Instead of the face on Mars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydonia_Mensae), we have doodles in New York :D

[khouri]

I wasn't sure if that text-on-glass-block thing was a part of the underworld show or was just something the gallery manager kept in her office (that's where it was located, near the window) and I was too terrified to ask John W.

[negative1]

I wasn't sure if that text-on-glass-block thing was a part of the underworld show or was just something the gallery manager kept in her office (that's where it was located, near the window) and I was too terrified to ask John W.

i don't know it was or not either, but i don't think so,
there were several other pieces of artwork that john and
karl mentioned in there, that they were trying to figure out what they were..

there was a metallic sculpture in the corner, and a black geometric
figure, and of course some of things on the bookshelves..

later
-1

[nosajmunson]

They had a Robert Motherwell hanging up in the "Office/Glass" area. They also had a few Motherwell's in storage that they are getting ready to show after the Artjam is wrapped up.

[TheBang]

Well, I think the webcam is done. Earlier today it wasn't streaming because the encoder machine at the site wasn't broadcasting. Now I'm just getting a "Not Found" error for the stream. Oh well. It wasn't very interesting today and yesterday anyway.

I've got a nice project for the webcam in mind that I'll post maybe this weekend.

[lloyd]

really something for me to highlight a non related piece of aRt :confused: ;)

Yeah was an interesting project. I had fun watching it for a bit seeing art being made etc.

[txjaxx]

I wasn't sure if that text-on-glass-block thing was a part of the underworld show or was just something the gallery manager kept in her office (that's where it was located, near the window) and I was too terrified to ask John W.

John did say they were a part of the show. I certainly may have misunderstood him, but he did point out those two pieces in that room. Thanks for the compliment on the pic.
Webcam shows "THE EN " now, the D seems to be missing.

[Arakias]

i went back there just before the "D", took a few more photos of the final works (not the same camera and am not on my own computer to edit them) so those are up here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sachyn/sets/72157606648798270/) if you care to see them.

but you can see the "d" now in the live feed. and someone moved the "e" to "ethe nd" by accident. cool.

[TheBang]

Yeah, the letters have been kicked around a bit. Especially when what looked like a schoolbus-ful of kids came through.

[TheBang]

I've created a time-lapse movie of the webcam footage over the course of the entire Art Jam. I call it:

Beautiful Burnout ArtJam - 15 Days in 15 Minutes
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RL2WZ0A2
http://rapidshare.com/files/137931110/bbartjam15days15min.mov.html

Also, now available on Vimeo for those of you who like to watch your movies as Flash embedded in web pages. There's also a link on Vimeo for downloading the original QuickTime file:

http://www.vimeo.com/1562359

The footage runs at about 380x real time, or approx. 6 min. shown per second. It's fun to watch the patterns that emerge out of the high-speed movement, and things like the bars of sunlight crawling up the wall. If you missed any of the web cam, here's your chance to see it in one sitting.

Quick tip: When viewing with QuickTime Player, you can advance forward or backwards one frame at a time at any point by using the left and right arrows on your keyboard.

[lloyd]

thnx!

[BrotherLovesDub]

wow. thanks thebang!

[galama]

the bang, beautiful! thank you.

[negative1]

dude, that was one of the coolest things i've ever seen on this site, period.. i actually remember a large part of that when karl was fixing up the sketch on the ground, the tibet peace conference, and the aftershow. i think i'm in a few frames, but i didn't check it closely enough.. later -1

[nosajmunson]

Damn, that is Sweet Ass Sweet.
I found us in several frames. Very cool to watch like this.

Thanks for piecing that all together.
The Bang: best dirty of the day for this one!

[Jan]

This is pure awesomeness... Thanks!

[immobilisme]

haha, i totally saw myself in the time lapse, but not sure which day. probably the 12th.

[immobilisme]

also, i purchased the photograph of the alley in japan, it arrived today via fedex!

[nosajmunson]

also, i purchased the photograph of the alley in japan, it arrived today via fedex!

Was it the one with the "flaming guitar looking smear/spot" in the upper left hand. That one was my favorite of all the photos displayed.

You lucky rich bastard! Good for you!

-Jason

[immobilisme]

indeed it was that one. i am very happy with it!

[TheBang]

Pictures of John's finished people painting:

http://www.tomato.co.uk/wp-content/2008/08/jw017640web.jpg
http://www.tomato.co.uk/wp-content/2008/08/jw029640web.jpg
http://www.tomato.co.uk/wp-content/2008/08/jw005640web.jpg

[txjaxx]

finally got my print and had it framed. hopefully the first of many tomato purchases.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20968123@N00/2862051772/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20968123@N00/2861220477/

Thanks John, Rick, and Karl!

[TheBang]

Oooh, nice. What number is that? 7/100?

Oop, nm, I can see it in the larger size. 3/100, cool

[Dirty0900]

finally got my print and had it framed. hopefully the first of many tomato purchases.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20968123@N00/2862051772/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20968123@N00/2861220477/

Thanks John, Rick, and Karl!

Very nice, so how much did that set you back?

[m.g.]

Just waiting for my print which is in a postal or an UPS pipe atm... ;)

[txjaxx]

Very nice, so how much did that set you back?

quite a bit, but worth it i think. i just need a better apartment to put around it!

[TheBang]

Comprehensive article and interview with John and Karl found by someone:

http://whitehotmagazine.com/whitehot_articles.cfm?id=1537

[negative1]

thanks for the link..
i still need to get my act together,
and do a write-up for this...to many
things going on!

later
-1

[rayray]

great article - thanks for the good reading.

[txjaxx]

3 new Books of Jam up yesterday documenting the Art Jam. Awesome stuff :D