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joethelion
04-08-2008, 02:42 PM
Ok

so the last time UW released a single (Boy Boy Boy) I seemed to be the LAST person who knew about it... what about this time?

quoted from another blog...

Underworld - Ring Road (Laidback Luke Remix)
Ring Road remixes EP to be released in july. on this one The Luke saves a quite boring track from 2007 Oblivion With Bells from... oblivion ah.


...I actually quite liked Ring Road

Dirty0900
04-08-2008, 02:54 PM
Yer i like Ring Road to.

I cant see any decent remix's of this happening, its to strong on the vocal for it to be chopped up and spliced around.

Spooky Shoes
04-08-2008, 02:56 PM
Could explain why I haven't seen that Red Bull advert again, either that, I was completely wrong in the first place or because I don't watch much TV.

July would be a good time to release it..

TheBang
04-08-2008, 03:02 PM
Ok

so the last time UW released a single (Boy Boy Boy) I seemed to be the LAST person who knew about it

Then I guess you must be the LAST person to know about the Beautiful Burnout single release which was the actual last time Underworld released a single. :D

nosajmunson
04-08-2008, 03:37 PM
lloyd already posted this on his blog, but....

AutoKratz has it on their MySpace page that they remixed Ring Road. They updated their MySPace page a few days ago to say that their version will be released in July:
__________________________________________________
REMIXES BY AUTOKRATZ::::::::::::
Underworld - Ring Road (Dirty Music) July 2008

http://www.myspace.com/autokratz (http://www.myspace.com/autokratz)

holden
04-08-2008, 03:50 PM
Yer i like Ring Road to.

I cant see any decent remix's of this happening, its to strong on the vocal for it to be chopped up and spliced around.


Yeah, but something fun-n-dubby could be made just using the chorus and the beat, i'd bet.

But enough with the remixes...how about some UW B-Sides? The Huntemann remix of Crocodile grew on me, but i can't say i care about any of the others for that track or Beautiful Burnout.

Spooky Shoes
04-08-2008, 03:56 PM
B-Sides Mmmm.

stimpee
04-08-2008, 04:35 PM
Underworld - Ring Road (Laidback Luke Remix) oh no. Laidback Luke is the biggest bag of dutch techno boring shit you have ever heard, and I have had the displeasure of hearing... except for Marco Bailey who destroyed my ears at I Love Techno 2005 warming up for Underworld. But hey, i'll give it a listen. Maybe Laidback Luke has discovered melody ;)

BrotherLovesDub
04-08-2008, 04:58 PM
laidback luke had a respectable run in dance music back in the late 90s but i haven't followed his sound since then.

happy to hear there's another single coming out though.

nosajmunson
04-08-2008, 05:11 PM
oh no. Laidback Luke is the biggest bag of dutch techno boring shit you have ever heard, and I have had the displeasure of hearing... ;)

OK, I just dowlnloaded & Listened to this remix (thanks to lloyd's blog) and it really.....well...um....sucks.
It is boring as all get out. 100% Craptastic.
And I thought that before I read stimpee's post.
The beat just feels off with the vocals. And the vocals are chopped up too much. It never really gets going.

negative1
04-08-2008, 05:12 PM
underworld really has dropped the ball on the singles,
and releases..

when will it end??

(hopefully with the next REAL riverun release)

later
-1

holden
04-08-2008, 06:32 PM
OK, I just dowlnloaded & Listened to this remix (thanks to lloyd's blog) and it really.....well...um....sucks.
It is boring as all get out. 100% Craptastic.
And I thought that before I read stimpee's post.
The beat just feels off with the vocals. And the vocals are chopped up too much. It never really gets going.

Just did the same. And i agree. This isn't a remix, it's some crappy house track with a bit of Karl's vocal, not even in the same key, added on top. "It's a rush job" indeed.

big screen satellite
04-09-2008, 05:12 AM
"its a rush job, it looks good for long enough, knock em out sell 'em, move on its a rush job...."


laidback luke takes this seriously - that just about sums up this remix

what a steaming pile of poo of a remix, its totally ruined the good elements of Ring Road imo, and its devoid of any quality - where's melody from the chorus???

if this is what the kids are listening to in the clubs, i'm glad i'm out of it...

2/10 (max)

lets hope the other mixes are much much better....

to quote more of the single - "lets have a little moan..."

dubman
04-09-2008, 07:54 AM
yeahhh, gotta do a big facepalm on this one.
a crap song with crap remixes all goes out on the latest single with no hint of any b-sides on the horizon.


ppppfffffffffffffftttt.

BrotherLovesDub
04-09-2008, 12:43 PM
i didn't expect to like this mix but i actually do like it. speed it up a few bpms and i can see it being pretty great on a dancefloor. pretty nice sounds imho. esp. the bit at about 4mins.

if this was mixed into a misterons radio set with no info given, people would be shitting themselves.

holden
04-09-2008, 12:51 PM
if this was mixed into a misterons radio set with no info given, people would be shitting themselves.

As in, the "brown noise"? :p

Agree that on the dancefloor, this could work, but how can it be called a remix since all it uses are poorly placed vocal snippets? As an original production, it sounds like a couple half-tracks smushed together. Associating it with UW is just wrong!

BeautifulBurnout
04-09-2008, 01:04 PM
Just listening to this for the first time as I type. I love the intro (loves me minimal bumps and blops, I do).

My two penn'orth: this will really work well in a club. The build up to the second "put the world to rights, sit right back and watch it all slide by" break at about 5mins10 is gonna produce a massive hands-in-the-air moment if it is done properly.

Nice break-sy ending.

First listen nearly over, and I want to listen to it again now. :)

BrotherLovesDub
04-09-2008, 01:45 PM
how can it be called a remix since all it uses are poorly placed vocal snippets?

welcome to post-1980s era remixes. where have you been?

big screen satellite
04-09-2008, 02:05 PM
i didn't expect to like this mix but i actually do like it. speed it up a few bpms and i can see it being pretty great on a dancefloor. pretty nice sounds imho. esp. the bit at about 4mins.

if this was mixed into a misterons radio set with no info given, people would be shitting themselves.

yep quite literally over the direction the remixes are taking with Underworld's good name on the line ;)

stimpee
04-09-2008, 03:28 PM
This sounds like some dance track LL had laying around with some UW samples badly bolted on. "a rush job". nice choice of sample. Its really nothing special at all, and without the sample no-one here who says they like it would be the slightest interested.

BeautifulBurnout
04-09-2008, 03:40 PM
... and without the sample no-one here who says they like it would be the slightest interested.

I don't like it just because it is Underworld. I like it because I like it. You don't like it. Horses for courses.

The spoken sample could be from any other artist or poet, as far as I am concerned, as long as it had a similar impact. If it was "constructed" in the same way, I would like the tune, irrespective.

(Whether I would have heard it as quickly, or at all, if it hadn't been a remix of an UW tune is another matter.)

joethelion
04-10-2008, 08:38 AM
if this was mixed into a misterons radio set with no info given, people would be shitting themselves.


totally agree. The first time I listened to this mix, I was a bit 'ehhh'

but then when I was walking down to the printmaking studio, listening to the track on my headphones, it hit me like a ton of bricks - yea... this song IS actually pretty damn good!

I wanted to run back to my apt and try and use it in a mix, asap

like that part at around 5:30 where the beat comes back in = awesomeness

Jason Roth
04-10-2008, 09:33 AM
This sounds like some dance track LL had laying around with some UW samples badly bolted on. "a rush job". nice choice of sample. Its really nothing special at all, and without the sample no-one here who says they like it would be the slightest interested.

Yup.

holden
04-10-2008, 09:53 AM
totally agree. The first time I listened to this mix, I was a bit 'ehhh'

but then when I was walking down to the printmaking studio, listening to the track on my headphones, it hit me like a ton of bricks - yea... this song IS actually pretty damn good!


like that part at around 5:30 where the beat comes back in = awesomeness

Yeah, like all tunes, there will be some that you like, hate or grow on you. I can see how this is a grower, but i still think it's a crap excuse for a remix. Yes, many remixes are much different from their original, but they almost always contain some elements in addition to the vocal that make them recognizeable to listeners as derivatives of the original track. That's what, by definition makes it a remix. Mixing anew some of the tracks, whether subtly or quite dramatically. Maybe Luke has disguised it well, but other than the vocal, i can't detect anything from Ring Road... not the drums, not the melody, no hooks.
Also, i think this song makes an impression at 4:00 and 5:30 whatever, because it is so different from what came before, hence my comments that it sounds like a few half completed tracks put together. But that's just my opinion.

But i think the underlying issue here, as some have already mentioned above is, why another single backed with remixes, no indication of B-sides? Maybe we'll be surprised. But the Laidback Luke comment on "Remix EP" doesn't sound promising.

Please, UW, please include something fresh and new! At this point, it's the difference between buying an import (cos you'll hardly ever find the singles in the US shops) and not bothering.

joethelion
04-10-2008, 11:48 AM
you see... I think Luke kinda went at this remix as if he was a member of UW, turning it into a different beast altogether. Like what they did with tracks such as "Dark & Long" and turned it into "Burts" or like "Born Slippy" -> "Deep Arch"

like, what I hated about pretty much all the remixes by other artists pre-River Run 12"-es was that, they pretty much only added a few frivolous stuff on top of the track, not really doing anything new

cacophony
04-10-2008, 12:05 PM
what a steaming pile of poo of a remix, its totally ruined the good elements of Ring Road imo, and its devoid of any quality - where's melody from the chorus???

100% agree. what a terrible terrible bit of "music."

BeautifulBurnout
04-10-2008, 12:27 PM
It's quite simple really.

If you don't particularly like breakbeat, you probably won't like this.

If you have a preconceived hatred of the DJ, you probably won't like this.

If you think remixes should be a simple variation on the original piece, you probably won't like this.

If you think it is obligatory that a remix contain the melody and harmony of the original piece, you probably won't like this.

All these things aside, you might well like this.

Then again, you might not.

To call something a steaming pile of poo or whatever else because you don't like it is a bit of a stretch, but understandable (especially round these parts ;) ). As the French say, les gouts et les couleurs, ca ne se discute pas.

But, unless people are either telepathic or qualified clinical psychologists who have published research in the field, to suggest that the only reason someone likes it is because it has an Underworld sample in it is insulting the intelligence of the people who do like it.

What a bunch of elitist cock.

cacophony
04-10-2008, 12:38 PM
that it's a steaming pile of poo is my opinion. it's subjective. just as it's your subjective opinion that it's enjoyable. it doesn't make anyone right or wrong, and it certainly doesn't make the criteria you laid out apply. none of those things apply to me yet i still very much dislike it. and i'm a remix junkie that can usually tolerate the most deviant take on a tune.

it's all about what floats your boat. it's not a contest to see who's right and who's wrong. like if X number of people say aye, and X+1 say nay, the nays have it. it's all just personal taste.

and i personally dislike the taste of poo. :D

stimpee
04-10-2008, 12:42 PM
This remix insults the intelligence of (at least some of) the Underworld fans here. Its unimaginative and doesnt even deserve to be called a Ring Road remix. A remix should include more elements of the song than just a few samples, and not just sound like some unfinished tune off his hard disk with the afforementioned samples pasted in using Reason.

BeautifulBurnout
04-10-2008, 12:49 PM
This remix insults the intelligence of (at least some of) the Underworld fans here. Its unimaginative and doesnt even deserve to be called a Ring Road remix. A remix should include more elements of the song than just a few samples, and not just sound like some unfinished tune off his hard disk with the afforementioned samples pasted in using Reason.

...which is a valid reasoned comment, although I don't agree with it. Thank you.

Cacophony: Aside from all the "criteria" I did also say that people may still not like it any way. I accept that entirely. I don't accept being told the only reason I like it is because it has an Underworld sample in it. That was the elitist cock to which I was referring. ;)

BrotherLovesDub
04-10-2008, 01:06 PM
This remix insults the intelligence of (at least some of) the Underworld fans here. Its unimaginative and doesnt even deserve to be called a Ring Road remix. A remix should include more elements of the song than just a few samples, and not just sound like some unfinished tune off his hard disk with the afforementioned samples pasted in using Reason.

without addressing the quality of the remix in question, i just want to point out again, that right or wrong, remixing is now more or less just adding a few samples from the original track over a piece of music that is identifiable by that remixers personal style. the old style 1980s extended mix remixes are gone. i haven't heard many remixes in the last 10 years that weren't completely new backing tracks with a few sprinkles from the original track left intact. not acknowledging that fact is to be blind to the last 10-20 years of remix culture.

holden
04-10-2008, 01:23 PM
without addressing the quality of the remix in question, i just want to point out again, that right or wrong, remixing is now more or less just adding a few samples from the original track over a piece of music that is identifiable by that remixers personal style. the old style 1980s extended mix remixes are gone. i haven't heard many remixes in the last 10 years that weren't completely new backing tracks with a few sprinkles from the original track left intact. not acknowledging that fact is to be blind to the last 10-20 years of remix culture.

Clearly we're listening to different remixes! :p
I regularly download 5-10 mixes a week from hybridized.org or Mixdepot.com, and yes, i agree with you that whilemany remixes are quite different from the originals, there are still most often more than "a few samples" or "sprinkles" left intact. Admittedly, most of the mixes i enjoy are progressive, electro or breaks sets, if that makes any difference.
but when i know the original tune, i can recognize it's essence in the remix. So, i don't think i'm being blind to remix culture, because it's not just junking a vocal on a new composition. Take most of the other UW remixes we've had by other artists since Beaucoup Fish, ten years ago till today: Most of them had quite recognizeable parts of the original in addition to the vocal...and still managed to be unique creations of the remixer.

Yes, the days of an extended mix where a lil beat or EQ was tweaked are gone. But i'd like to think that there are clever(er) producers who can work with the original tracks in a new way, rather than what LL and others are apparently doing, taking their own song and pasting a vocal on top. That seems to me a cop-out and a bit of a hanging on the coat-tails of the more famous UW to get your record played or sold. For right or for wrong.

BrotherLovesDub
04-10-2008, 01:59 PM
That seems to me a cop-out and a bit of a hanging on the coat-tails of the more famous UW to get your record played or sold. For right or for wrong.

Underworld are using Laidback Luke (and other remixers) solid reputation to sell copies, not the other way around. It's UW who are riding the coattails of the remixers. Wighnomy/Pete Heller/Huntemann et.al were chosen because they were/are very popular with dj's. Pete Heller didn't ask to have a remix on the single so he could take some of UW's glory. UW, or their management, asked Heller (and Laidback Luke) because they liked their work and thought it would sell copies. You've got this all backwards. BTW, all of those mixers i mentioned created mixes that had little or nothing to do with the original songs other than the vocal track.

cacophony
04-10-2008, 02:33 PM
Laidback Luke solid reputation

a solid reputation of being a complete nobody to 99% of the populace? not sure i agree with your assessment.

BrotherLovesDub
04-10-2008, 03:21 PM
the singles with remixes are aimed at Dj's, not whining retards on a message board. if you're a DJ and you don't know Laidback Luke, you don't know your history. Laidback Luke was a huge name in techno at the end of the 90s.

saying he's unknown to 99% of the populace is being willfully ignorant of the target audience for this particular remix/release.

jose m
04-10-2008, 03:48 PM
he's pretty hot right now in the uk and europe.

Dirty0900
04-10-2008, 03:49 PM
Is it er...not coz Karlos/Ricko/Daz like said person and know they may do a semi decent job? Why not ask Simian who were meant to tour with UW, Errors or Thom York seeing UW are meant to be touring with them. They wouldn't ask me:(

BrotherLovesDub
04-10-2008, 04:22 PM
Why not ask Thom Yorke...


the absurdity has just peaked.

stimpee
04-10-2008, 04:33 PM
the singles with remixes are aimed at Dj's, not whining retards on a message board. if you're a DJ and you don't know Laidback Luke, you don't know your history. Laidback Luke was a huge name in techno at the end of the 90s. All this does not make it a good remix. I know of Laidback Luke. I already expressed my opinion. Whatever. Its a bad remix. Thats that. In fact, this is one of the worst official Underworld remixes I've ever heard. Apologies to the Underworld guys and Steve Hall but this is a stinker. I hope it does well in the clubs but it does nothing for the reputation of Underworld and it wont sell any albums.

negative1
04-10-2008, 04:48 PM
without addressing the quality of the remix in question, i just want to point out again, that right or wrong, remixing is now more or less just adding a few samples from the original track over a piece of music that is identifiable by that remixers personal style. the old style 1980s extended mix remixes are gone. i haven't heard many remixes in the last 10 years that weren't completely new backing tracks with a few sprinkles from the original track left intact. not acknowledging that fact is to be blind to the last 10-20 years of remix culture.

the irony here, being that underworld did the exact same thing
to almost all of the remixes they did for other artists in the
mid 90's...

you can barely tell what happened to the original sounds..
from most of the mixes they put out (ie one dove, drum club,
bjork, everything but the girl, eagles prey, etc)..

(by the way, i'm a big fan of most of those though), i can't
really stand the originals for most of them...

later
-1

BrotherLovesDub
04-10-2008, 04:54 PM
Its a bad remix. Thats that.


LOCK THREAD, THE MASTER HAS SPOKEN!

negative1
04-10-2008, 05:00 PM
All this does not make it a good remix. I know of Laidback Luke. I already expressed my opinion. Whatever. Its a bad remix. Thats that. In fact, this is one of the worst official Underworld remixes I've ever heard. Apologies to the Underworld guys and Steve Hall but this is a stinker. I hope it does well in the clubs but it does nothing for the reputation of Underworld and it wont sell any albums.

i wondered if this could be any worse than the boy boy boy(remix)..
which is probably their worst ever.. it isn't..

that said, the album version is terrible enough, so almost
anything would have been an improvement..

in this case, the remix fumbles badly, and might be their 2nd
worst ever..

oh the humanity!!!! (zepplin crashes into the ground, and
bursts into flames)..

hopefully, if we're REALLY lucky, it will be a japanese release
ONLY...(again)..

later
-1

BrotherLovesDub
04-10-2008, 05:14 PM
i agree the Switch mix was miles worse than this (Jesse Rose's mix was much worse than this as well and don't get me started on the bland as fuck Futureshock mixes)

the only issue i have with this mix is the over use of the first set of samples near the 2min mark. the sample would have been more effective if it had only played once as the break was leading back into the beats.

i think the sound of the kicks is great, the melodies and layers build coming out of the first break until LL overuses the "people are squinting..." loop (again) at about 5mins.

this is nowhere near the worst mix on an UW release. this isn't even the worst remix of songs from the new album.

on the topic of what samples were used and what weren't used, unless you were there with LL and have heard the original seperate audio tracks UW sent out for remixing this song, you have no fucking clue what sounds were used. the entire track could be constructed using only material sourced from the UW original and we'd have no idea. it's not difficult to take a noticeable sound and distort it beyond recognition with softsynths/audio programs.

cacophony
04-10-2008, 05:18 PM
the singles with remixes are aimed at Dj's, not whining retards on a message board.

saying he's unknown to 99% of the populace is being willfully ignorant of the target audience for this particular remix/release.

mmm. still disagree with your assessment here. ultimately the point of the remixes are to appeal to the mass audience.

BrotherLovesDub
04-10-2008, 05:22 PM
mmm. still disagree with your assessment here. ultimately the point of the remixes are to appeal to the mass audience.

we'll just have to disagree then. if appealing to the mass audience was the point, the RRP remix 12"s would be available on one budget priced CD. Beautiful Burnout / Boy Boy Boy cd singles + 12" mixes would be released in all countries.

Underworld haven't tried to appeal to the mass audience with their releases in ages.

joethelion
04-10-2008, 06:25 PM
Underworld haven't tried to appeal to the mass audience with their releases in ages.

actually, I would go almost as far as saying - that they really never have tried to go for mass appeal for any of their singles

and -1 beat me to the punch a bit - for those who hate this remix b/c it 'sounds like a LL track with some random UW samples" - do you also hate... um every single freaking remix UW have ever done? (Rick's "Soft Mix" of Depeche Mode's "Barrel of a Gun" springs to mind)

this is by far - absolutely nowhere near the worst UW remixes... have you forgotten about:

the Cowgirl Futureshock & Bedrock remixes
the lazy-as-f_ck Two Months Off remixes?
I seem to recall some of the KOS remixes were quite bad too...
Born Slippy 03 (Paul Oakenfold Remix)

but then... I like remixes that end up being almost different songs altogether

cacophony
04-10-2008, 07:03 PM
we'll just have to disagree then. if appealing to the mass audience was the point, the RRP remix 12"s would be available on one budget priced CD. Beautiful Burnout / Boy Boy Boy cd singles + 12" mixes would be released in all countries.

Underworld haven't tried to appeal to the mass audience with their releases in ages.

you're missing the point. it isn't about making available on the mass market. what are the DJs going to do with the remix? play it at clubs and shows, of course. they will be the conduit that brings it to the masses. they will deliver a level of promotion that the album itself could probably not achieve. and to those people who will be exposed to the remix, they may or may not be familiar with the name of the dude who did the remix. it's about their song, not riding the coattails of some DJ who, as i said, most of the listening audience is likely ignorant of.

Spooky Shoes
04-10-2008, 07:12 PM
Is anyone really surprised that there aren't too many regular poster around here?

You must realise that arguing a difference of opinion with a fellow obsessive is futile? The only reason any of us is here is our obsession - Prove me wrong. :D

Anyone fancy a bacon roll?

I like Ring Road... all we need is a good summer. :cool:

jose m
04-11-2008, 02:28 AM
this remix is fab,i don't know what everyones talking about? its the missing link between underworld 1993 and underworld 2008 can't you hear it? laidback luke should take over production duties for the next album.he could put back the sparkle that went when emerson left.its more than a remix,its a blueprint for the future.

stimpee
04-11-2008, 02:53 AM
There have been some wonderful remixes though. The Pig and Dan Remix 3 of Play Pig is absolutely brilliant and its a crime that it was hidden away where it was.

King of Snake
04-11-2008, 02:58 AM
this remix is fab,i don't know what everyones talking about? its the missing link between underworld 1993 and underworld 2008 can't you hear it? laidback luke should take over production duties for the next album.he could put back the sparkle that went when emerson left.its more than a remix,its a blueprint for the future.

I just hope you're joking ;)

I listened to this remix and while it's not the worst piece of music I've ever heard, I would not call it a good remix.
BLD, yes hypothetically he could have made all the sounds from underworld source material, but you know as well as I do that that is highly unlikely. It seems more likely that it really is pretty much just the vocal sample that got used.
The track itself has some good bits but ultimately (imo) it's nothing more than a run-of-the-mill house track with an underworld sample in it.

King of Snake
04-11-2008, 03:18 AM
to suggest that the only reason someone likes it is because it has an Underworld sample in it is insulting the intelligence of the people who do like it.

[devil's advocate]
not sure how that is different from suggesting that if you don't like the track, you probably have preconceived hatred for the dj etc...
[/devil's advocate]

stimpee
04-11-2008, 06:12 AM
If this is a leaked track and not meant for release, I'd have serious second thoughts about giving it an official release. I think the reason why this remix is getting singled out is because Ring Road is one of the most interesting and different tracks that Underworld have ever released. It has so many great little loops and layers and the vocals are like nothing before. So, to hear it used this way is such a disappointment. Maybe I shouldn't be so harsh. Maybe I need to go through the other remixes to give this some perspective. But whatever, I don't think it will make me like this remix any more than I do now.

jose m
04-11-2008, 06:41 AM
i think it must be a dutch thing going on here,whats laidback done to you?

cacophony
04-11-2008, 07:08 AM
why does it have to be a personal thing against LL? maybe tastes are different from person to person. it's okay not to like stuff, you know. :rolleyes:

jose m
04-11-2008, 07:30 AM
how much expierence of the dutch do you have? are you aware of the tribal lines the country is divided by and the conflict that rages in the land of orange?

holden
04-11-2008, 08:00 AM
I listened to this remix and while it's not the worst piece of music I've ever heard, I would not call it a good remix.
BLD, yes hypothetically he could have made all the sounds from underworld source material, but you know as well as I do that that is highly unlikely. It seems more likely that it really is pretty much just the vocal sample that got used.
The track itself has some good bits but ultimately (imo) it's nothing more than a run-of-the-mill house track with an underworld sample in it.

That's what i've been saying, too!

-1 raises a good point that UW's glory days of remixing other artists did radically change the songs ( Chems' "Leave Home" both mixes come to mind). I missed that irony as i'm predisposed to love UW!

:)

cacophony
04-11-2008, 09:48 AM
how much expierence of the dutch do you have? are you aware of the tribal lines the country is divided by and the conflict that rages in the land of orange?

what on god's green earth does that have to do with anything? specifically, and in particular, ring road?

if you want to get all creepy and nationalistic, take it to the world forum, bub.

BeautifulBurnout
04-11-2008, 10:36 AM
[devil's advocate]
not sure how that is different from suggesting that if you don't like the track, you probably have preconceived hatred for the dj etc...
[/devil's advocate]

Preconceived hatred of LL was expressed in this thread quite early on, which is why I referred to it specifically. And I didn't say that if you didn't like it, it was because you had a preconceived hatred. That is the wrong way round. I suggested that if you DO have a preconceived hatred for LL, you prolly won't like the track.

You stick to your day job (which you do so well, I might add) and I'll stick to mine...






.... <runs away>

stimpee
04-11-2008, 10:41 AM
i think it must be a dutch thing going on here,whats laidback done to you?I don't think its anything against him in particular. If I'd have come across it without a name then i would have been equally unimpressed. I am surprised about the level of hostility towards it but I suppose that we here at the dirty forums have pretty high standards when it comes to our favourite band.

jose m
04-11-2008, 11:16 AM
what on god's green earth does that have to do with anything? specifically, and in particular, ring road?

if you want to get all creepy and nationalistic, take it to the world forum, bub.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha would it help if i used some of these? (ALL THE SMILEYS IN THE WORLD)

cacophony
04-11-2008, 11:42 AM
congrats, dude. i have no idea what your deal is but let's not dwell.

King of Snake
04-11-2008, 11:45 AM
Preconceived hatred of LL was expressed in this thread quite early on, which is why I referred to it specifically. And I didn't say that if you didn't like it, it was because you had a preconceived hatred. That is the wrong way round. I suggested that if you DO have a preconceived hatred for LL, you prolly won't like the track.

you didn't explicitly say it, but it was suggested by the way it was presentend (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truism) (I'm sure simply for the sake of argument)


You stick to your day job (which you do so well, I might add) and I'll stick to mine...
yeah I'll be sure to continue to read between the lines of your lawyer-speak :D

jose m
04-11-2008, 11:46 AM
ok duuuuuuude

BeautifulBurnout
04-11-2008, 11:54 AM
yeah I'll be sure to continue to read between the lines of your lawyer-speak :D

SLAP!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMKCLyhBBwI)

:D

potatobroth
04-11-2008, 01:01 PM
well now I want to hear this track. typically I don't bother remixes but anything that sparks such vast differences in opinion I feel like I need to hear.

( Yes, I know a bunch of this is in jest, although I don't get how it turned into a civil war lesson. )

chems1919
04-11-2008, 10:23 PM
Hmm..the remix is causing quite a stir. I checked on Soulseek for it, but no one has it. Schmehhhh.

The only song I've heard from Laidback Luke is his remix of Daft Punk's Crescendolls which I remember liking. Anyone wanna upload the remix? ;)

Vectorman0
04-12-2008, 01:42 AM
Follow the trail and you can find it!

http://kwiebusch.blogspot.com/

purlieu
04-17-2008, 12:34 PM
You can stream it here (http://hypem.com/track/524650) as well.
It's a nice enough track, I agree that it's not an especially good remix from an Underworld perspective, but I can imagine a number of past Underworld remixes haven't been very good tracks for fans of those artists they're remixing. See it as... Ring Road for house fans who don't really like the style of the original.

big screen satellite
04-17-2008, 04:09 PM
ring road didn't need remixing in the first place (as Stimpee said, its so unique), but take out all of the elements of UW out of the LL remix and it would still be shit even if LL was the bestest remixer in the world ever (which he is not)

nothing against the remixer - but he hasn't done anything clever- unless he has, which is take the context of the song and used the lyrics ironically - then if he has. the guy is a fucking genius

holden
04-17-2008, 06:30 PM
Sooo annnywayy....

In addition to Laidback Luke and (apparently) Autocratz, any other remixes for this track? Anyone heard anything?
Oh man, i hold out hope that there's an UW B-Side on this. OR heck, even a drastically different UW remix of Ring Road:o

potatobroth
04-17-2008, 06:32 PM
I just heard this and, well, it doesn't sound any different than a majority of the remixes I've heard since the BF era.