View Full Version : Not another Nuxx thread, surely?
BeautifulBurnout
03-18-2008, 06:48 AM
:o
Well, yeah, actually. I have always got the most amazing rush of adrenalin at gigs and even when listening to live recordings when the first few notes of Nuxx come in and the crowd go ballistic.
This is a vid of Johan Gielen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7oNAIXBlCk) Live at the Sunrise Festival, and it just goes to show that it isn't only at UW gigs that the crowd go mental to Nuxx - there seems to be a universal love of this tune throughout dance culture. I hope the boys are justifiably proud of the indelible mark they have left on the history books of popular music.
And it gives me goosebumps and makes me smile this morning :D
holden
03-18-2008, 08:18 AM
:o
I hope the boys are justifiably proud of the indelible mark they have left on the history books of popular music.
And it gives me goosebumps and makes me smile this morning :D
I'm sure they are!
Sadly, i do know a lot of people who don't recall the song, or at least not by name. I always go, "Have you seen 'Trainspotting', you know, with the toilet and the baby crawling on the ceiling, and Ewan MacGregors privates..."
"Uhhh, not sure".
These people obviously have poor taste in music and film or have been living in caves!
I went through a period of being kinda burnt out on the "big hits", i guess after hearing them so often, and the regular tracklists of the 2002-03 shows. But all has been remedied. Hear NUXX live and you will go mental.
pafufta816
03-18-2008, 09:23 AM
"oh oh it's magic"
Spooky Shoes
03-18-2008, 11:17 AM
Reminds me of summer '95. :)
dubman
03-18-2008, 01:31 PM
goddamn that is annoying.
Dirty0900
03-18-2008, 02:47 PM
Not getting to number one was probably annoying but having one of the songs of the 90's is a bonus...
dubman
03-18-2008, 03:24 PM
i'm talking about the DJ, dumpus ;)
does no one get even remotely disgusted at DJs who act like this though?
BeautifulBurnout
03-18-2008, 03:36 PM
i'm talking about the DJ, dumpus ;)
does no one get even remotely disgusted at DJs who act like this though?
Depends how much I've had to drink by the time they start spinning :p
Yeah, pretty much in general, though. On the other hand, there is nothing worse than a totally boring dj who does nothing to whip up the crowd.
dubman
03-18-2008, 03:44 PM
Depends how much I've had to drink by the time they start spinning :p
Yeah, pretty much in general, though. On the other hand, there is nothing worse than a totally boring dj who does nothing to whip up the crowd.
you can do it without the pyro and the christ pose.
i'd have a few more words for that but i might betray my vocabulary as being "stunted"
big screen satellite
03-18-2008, 03:56 PM
Nuxx Off
cacophony
03-18-2008, 03:59 PM
:o
Well, yeah, actually. I have always got the most amazing rush of adrenalin at gigs and even when listening to live recordings when the first few notes of Nuxx come in and the crowd go ballistic.
...And it gives me goosebumps and makes me smile this morning :D
when i hear the opening strains i always tear up a little. like, oh yeah i remember how afuckingmazing this song is and i'm so glad i get to hear it once again.
maybe it's just us chicks who get all emo over this little tune. ;)
big screen satellite
03-18-2008, 04:23 PM
my BS page (created a while ago) :
http://www.bigscreensatellite.co.uk/bornslip.htm
idoru
03-19-2008, 03:08 AM
I've always found the crowd reaction to Nuxx to be interesting. Most people seem to recognize only the main chords and the lyrics. Even at a solo Underworld gig this is very prevalent. Most of us on the forum will recognize it right away; the kick, the percussion, we'll know it less than a second from when it starts.
The majority of the crowd wont. They'll stand there bobbing their heads because they don't really know the track, and they don't know what's coming. Then when it hits, they're overjoyed.
*shrug*
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big screen satellite
03-19-2008, 03:45 AM
I've always found the crowd reaction to Nuxx to be interesting. Most people seem to recognize only the main chords and the lyrics. Even at a solo Underworld gig this is very prevalent. Most of us on the forum will recognize it right away; the kick, the percussion, we'll know it less than a second from when it starts.
The majority of the crowd wont. They'll stand there bobbing their heads because they don't really know the track, and they don't know what's coming. Then when it hits, they're overjoyed.
*shrug*
thats why i hate bs nuxx live...
i was at the knebworth gig last year and the bloke next to me asked me three times if the track playing was born slippy, each time he was wrong, eventually when the track did come on he only recognised it from the pianos and mainly sung the 'lager lager lager' bit - n00b
sadly a large majority of ppl only know underworld for this one track by name, when i say who's my favoruite band i would like to say, you know, 'moaner', 'juanita', 'dubnobass'... sadly i have to go 'born slippy' and if they don't recall from that i have to go - the song that goes lager lager lager...
i don't hate the track per se, but in a kind of snobbish fanboy way, i want to educate people into better more subtle underworld tracks....
the other issue is that BS nuxx was never on an album and as such, ppl only bought the single and never really went to to buy dubno / stiti because it didn't have that track on it... it is an epic anthem, but its overplayed over hyped and i could enjoy a uw live show more if bs nuxx wasn't going to be played!
not gonna happen i know
cacophony
03-19-2008, 06:43 AM
when i say who's my favoruite band i would like to say, you know, 'moaner', 'juanita', 'dubnobass'... sadly i have to go 'born slippy' and if they don't recall from that i have to go - the song that goes lager lager lager...
that's the price you pay when you choose to fall madly in love with ARTISTS rather than mainstream acts. if you wanted everyone to know who your favorite musical act was, you could always say "madonna." :p
negative1
03-19-2008, 07:01 AM
i actually LIKE the full 11minute version of nuxx....especially the second
half of the song.....but i don't think they've EVER played it live, go figure..
i keep waiting for the break, and the beats, but it NEVER gets played,
same with the TELEMATIC version.....or some of the other mixes of it..
maybe someday..
later
-1
BeautifulBurnout
03-19-2008, 07:15 AM
thats why i hate bs nuxx live...
i was at the knebworth gig last year and the bloke next to me asked me three times if the track playing was born slippy, each time he was wrong, eventually when the track did come on he only recognised it from the pianos and mainly sung the 'lager lager lager' bit - n00b
Yeah, but to be fair, the tent was jammed full of Sasha and Digweed fans, who had been playing for the previous 3 hours. No surprise that you were standing next to a n00b - I had two blokes standing next to me who spent the whole of the gig blathering on about what they had done the weekend before and what they were doing the weekend after. Waste of valuable UW fan space, imo :D
sadly a large majority of ppl only know underworld for this one track by name, when i say who's my favoruite band i would like to say, you know, 'moaner', 'juanita', 'dubnobass'... sadly i have to go 'born slippy' and if they don't recall from that i have to go - the song that goes lager lager lager...
i don't hate the track per se, but in a kind of snobbish fanboy way, i want to educate people into better more subtle underworld tracks....
the other issue is that BS nuxx was never on an album and as such, ppl only bought the single and never really went to to buy dubno / stiti because it didn't have that track on it... it is an epic anthem, but its overplayed over hyped and i could enjoy a uw live show more if bs nuxx wasn't going to be played!
not gonna happen i know
True - I don't think it would reasonable to expect the band to play a gig without their biggest hit in it though. Unless of course they were going to do a special invitation-only gig for us lot. ;)
But I still get a buzz from the crowd reaction every time, even though NUXX is not my fave number by a long chalk.
stimpee
03-19-2008, 03:37 PM
Fuck me, this is one of the worst versions of Nuxx i've had the displeasure of not just hearing, but having to watch this muppet clap / pray and walk on the decks while taking credit for playing a record that someone else made, and some other idiot then remixed into some trance hell. Johan Gielen is a king twat. For a change, he isnt from the Netherlands tho like his twat contemporaries Tiesticles and Armin van Boring. He's from just over the border in Belgium.
I did appreciate NUXX at the roundhouse on the 28th Feb. That was pretty damn good. A return to form. This version and this fannying around by the talentless git behind the decks is just an insult. Thanks for wasting my time.
BeautifulBurnout
03-19-2008, 03:40 PM
Thanks for wasting my time.
You're welcome.
The point was the crowd reaction, not the dj, or even the version of NUXX, but hey...:rolleyes:
big screen satellite
03-20-2008, 03:56 AM
the thing is with that nobend Johan Gielen, is that the crowd were not specifically reacting to the tune, yes the tune was part of the event - and it does get reactions, but any big tune from 'that era', coupled with the stupid lasers, god like apperance of the arse of a dj and the stupid stuff falling onto the crowd would have, imo, prompted the same reaction
trouble with trance crowds is that they nod along for 2 and a half hours and raise their hands for the rest of the night when any relevant breakdown or key point of an anthem kicks in... it could have been any number of classic club tunes creating the same reaction, let alone a bastardised version of an Underworld tune which only uses about three key elements of the original NUxx version
the crowd reaction is more disturbing than endearing imo, because they are praising a fuckwit of a DJ for playing a record they like, fuck me, put chris moyels up there.... anyone can play born slippy off vinyl, but only one band made it and plays it live....
imo, its a weak assed lame dj that plays born slippy to get his kicks from a crowd, play something original or from your own vast collection Johan... or fuck off back to belgium, you twat
long live Underworld...
still its a good debate....:o
Spooky Shoes
03-20-2008, 04:09 AM
imo, its a weak assed lame dj that plays born slippy to get his kicks from a crowd
Couldn't agree more... Another track commonly used in this fashion is Higher State Of Consciousness by Josh Bastard Wink.... Grrr! If any DJ plays these two tracks they need to have their ears plugged and fingers amputated.
big screen satellite
03-20-2008, 04:15 AM
Couldn't agree more... Another track commonly used in this fashion is Higher State Of Consciousness by Josh Bastard Wink.... Grrr! If any DJ plays these two tracks they need to have their ears plugged and fingers amputated.
its not the playing of born slippy or any other track that is wrong, per se, its the fact that the cunt of a dj is standing there, arms aloft living off the energy of a track he had nothing to do with except add some noodly trance shite too (if it is indeed his remix, which i think it might not be).
karl hyde can stand there and take acclaim when uw play it live, for sure, he wrote the fucking tune and it means something emotionally special to him and the band, hell even darren emerson could stand up there and play it live to live off it if he wants, but some belgian twat with no balls milking a e'd up crowd of goons, fuck off...
i'm mad now...
not at the thread but at DJ's in general... :hate: :hate:
BeautifulBurnout
03-20-2008, 04:17 AM
the thing is with that nobend Johan Gielen, is that the crowd were not specifically reacting to the tune, yes the tune was part of the event - and it does get reactions, but any big tune from 'that era', coupled with the stupid lasers, god like apperance of the arse of a dj and the stupid stuff falling onto the crowd would have, imo, prompted the same reaction
(...)
long live Underworld...
I dunno about it being "any number" of choons from that era. You can see by the way he set it up that Gielen has thought out the impact NUXX is gonna have, and has worked the crowd with it.
It is an iconic piece (no matter how much you want to pretend it isn't cos you're being a fanboy snob :p ;))
And it is my bet that in ten years time it will still have the same effect on the crowd. Long live Underworld!!!
still its a good debate....:o
Sure is ;)
undarrenworld
03-20-2008, 04:18 AM
anyone can play born slippy off vinyl, but only one band made it and plays it live....
Well said Matt;)
Spooky Shoes
03-20-2008, 04:20 AM
its not the playing of born slippy or any other track that is wrong, per se, its the fact that the cunt of a dj is standing there, arms aloft living off the energy of a track he had nothing to do with except add some noodly trance shite too (if it is indeed his remix, which i think it might not be).
Two Words....
Norman Cook.
http://xs125.xs.to/xs125/08124/_38135104_fatboy4347.jpg
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big screen satellite
03-20-2008, 04:27 AM
Two Words....
Norman Cook.
yeah true,
but the thing is, norman does it, and milks it, but he created the mix version he uses, and he uses it as a kind of trademark.... like that planet of the phatbird track...
and he's remixed Underworld so i kinda think he has some credibility, and he doesn't stand up with halo's of light around him like some born again christ like superstar, he's just some dodgy ex-housemartin who waves to the crowd every time a tune he plays comes on... he's not in the same twat league as Gielen
and i see him in sainsburys quite a bit ;)
BeautifulBurnout
03-20-2008, 04:27 AM
This is kinda weird - cos surely without the "c*nt of a dj standing, arms aloft living off the energy of the track" how would any dance track make it?
The essential thing about dance music is that people associate it with a whole experience. It isn't just hearing it on the radio that is going to turn it into a Top 10 hit (unless Pete Tong or some other high profile radio jock is on a mission like he was with this).
Slagging dj's for living off the energy of the tracks they play is a little like slagging a conductor of a classical orchestra for getting his kicks out of conducting Mozart. Everyone knows he wasn't the bloke wot wrote it, but that doesn't mean that he should be given no credit for bringing it to the people that want to hear it.
big screen satellite
03-20-2008, 04:53 AM
there are djs and then there are cunt djs like this one... some play tunes because they like them and know a crowd likes them, then there are people like tiesto and many a trance dj who basically take the crowd for some kind of cheap ride to boost their own pathetic egos
yeah put on a show, yeah play some big tunes, but don't stand there asking the crowd to praise you for some track that you put on, which had nothing to do with you...
dj's of old never used to do this, they were stuck in a booth played some tunes and the crowd still went wild and they still took home a nice hefty paypacket and were still considered god like, they just didn't milk it - most knew their place
djs were revered and there is nothing wrong with that, but there are limits and this twat has gone way over...
this is a new era of dj's that are talentless goons living off everyone else
i appreciate the art - hell i'll even accept he cued up the track for the whole snowy effect, but its grating me that he's standing there like some kind of god -
YOU
ARE
A
FUCKING
DJ
YOU
PLAY
RECORDS
(most NOT VERY GOOD)
end of story...
and for that matter of knowing that that track would get the crowd going kinda hints to me that his entire set was programmed with no invention whatsoever, its way too coreographed to be spontanious, or reacting to the crowd... i bet this guy has like three or four standard sets (all on Dat) which he brings along and says to the event organisers - right, here when this tuen kicks in i want snowy feathers to fall down, during this part i want a light shining behind me, and at the end i want to decend over the crowd on a highwire, no - don't worry about the music, the dat will keep playing....
maybe i'm getting old, and this is what does it these days for kids...
it was better in my day... bring back the Hac
BeautifulBurnout
03-20-2008, 05:21 AM
Ah! Fair enough, then.
I thought for a minute it was dj's in general, not this type in particular, that were getting your goat.
I think Gielen is a bit of an extreme example, probably cos he was wanting to put on a "show" at a big event. Most club dj's are still in booths/cages, relying on whatever lighting the club might have and the quality of their own skills mixing choons and creating drops. Not up on a stage fannying about like this guy.
I still get goosebumps when I hear the crowd's reaction to NUXX though.
stimpee
03-20-2008, 06:33 AM
I still get goosebumps when I hear the crowd's reaction to NUXX though.i'm not annoyed by DJs playing NUXX. and sometimes i do get goosebumps too. But when gimps like this act like twats and milk a really shitty version of NUXX i dont get goosebumps. I just want to smack them in the face with a cricket bat. I think you used a very bad example to illustrate your goosebumps theory. Johan Gielen goes onto the same shitlist as Marco Bailey.
holden
03-20-2008, 08:28 AM
yeah true,
but the thing is, norman does it, and milks it, but he created the mix version he uses, and he uses it as a kind of trademark.... like that planet of the phatbird track...
and he's remixed Underworld so i kinda think he has some credibility, and he doesn't stand up with halo's of light around him like some born again christ like superstar, he's just some dodgy ex-housemartin who waves to the crowd every time a tune he plays comes on... he's not in the same twat league as Gielen
and i see him in sainsburys quite a bit ;)
Since you brought him up, i recall Fatboy Norm saying in an interview that half the time, he does nothing to the songs, hardly even mixing them into one another or tweaking anything, and the crowd just goes nuts when certain songs drop, so he does his wave. At least he recognizes that it's the music that moves people, and he has a little humor for the people who don't realize he's just playing records. Technically, he is a crap DJ, but he does get the crowd moving.
Agreed that there are too many "superstar DJs" these days that just milk the crowd.
(anyone seen "It's All Gone Pete Tong"? Great movie!)
If they're an actual producer, that gives them some cred (unless of course the music is trash or they endlessly play their own tunes).
BrotherLovesDub
03-20-2008, 09:13 AM
Paul Oakenfold needs to be strung up and humiliated for the crimes he's committed.
BrotherLovesDub
03-20-2008, 09:17 AM
This is kinda weird - cos surely without the "c*nt of a dj standing, arms aloft living off the energy of the track" how would any dance track make it?
oh, i don't know, maybe by being featured in a huge blockbuster movie? that seems to do the trick. take Nuxx/Dark Train out of Trainspotting and we'd all have more room to dance at UW gigs. not sure you can say a percentage of the crowd are there cuz they heard DJ Trance Sucker play their tunes.
BeautifulBurnout
03-20-2008, 09:52 AM
Paul Oakenfold needs to be strung up and humiliated for the crimes he's committed.
Aww... I got a neat version of Cowgirl in one of his sets. ;)
pafufta816
03-25-2008, 09:51 AM
i think norman and oakenfold just got too big for their own good. i feel like they got too much fame and fortune to be good for their music. they didn't get to mature musically, and instead became businessmen.
i still remember when fatboy was hip for doing acid house/break stuff, and oakenfold was doing goa sets. things have changed!
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