why owb is probably the best [Archive]

m.g.

11-21-2007, 07:08 PM

.......i think it,s a very emotional album, straight from the heart of rick and karl.....more emotional than any of their other albums. It should carry a health warning that if you are feeling a tad emotional or fragile, it.s beauty can make you well up into tears.....well it does with me anyway, does anyone else agree (or if you want to disagree ai would discuss it with you if you provide the tissues:D )Even if it's very difficult for me to say that any of UW album is the best, I totally agree with what you're writing here, Rog.

IsiliRunite

11-21-2007, 08:12 PM

I listened to River of Bass again today, and that sees to have some emotional significance.

gillenium

11-21-2007, 10:41 PM

I'm still not sure if it's the best, but it does feel the most honest. It feels as though Rick and Karl took their souls and just pumped them directly into the tracks. When I gave my disc the very first run-through (I turned on my kickass UDO disco ball and let the room dance), I felt a bigger connection to Underworld than with any other album. That's a huge achievement in my book.

bryantm3

11-22-2007, 01:11 AM

personally i think dubno has the most emotion of all of the albums, especially 'dark and long', 'tongue', 'dirty epic', and 'river of bass'. i can just connect with those songs in a way i can't with the others. the most detached albums to me are probably BF and AHDO, even though they're very good albums, they seem more intentionally dancey than emotional.

TheBang

11-22-2007, 03:42 AM

Both Rick and Karl put a ton of emotion into Boy Boy Boy on stage. (I just don't happen to like the oppressive feelings it gives me.) I have video of it that I'll post once I get back to the States.

Ally

11-22-2007, 02:22 PM

It should carry a health warning that if you are feeling a tad emotional or fragile,

Fuckin' right. Don't want to say too much but yeah I've really cottoned on to the sounds of this album in the past weeks.

dog

11-22-2007, 03:43 PM

Without sounding like an utter tool, I personally find this one of their worst albums. I initially thought yeah, this is good- but on repeated listens i find it quite a drag. I listen to crocodile, beautiful burnout and boy boy boy and err thats it... There are also a few tracks that are a bit embarrasing (immediately Ring Road springs to mind) and others which are non-memorable and easily skip-able.

I think the reason i've posted this is because i'm so bitterly disappointed having waited so long for a studio release which feels so average...

dubman

11-22-2007, 04:09 PM

it's got too many flaws to be best anything

it's pretty great though

cacophony

11-22-2007, 05:48 PM

the good parts make it some of their best material. the bad parts make it some of the worst.

it's a great album, and if not for the flawed songs plunked right in the middle that kind of ruin the vibe (boyboyboy, cuddle bunny) it would be absolutely top of the heap. i can't remember the last time i listened to one single album this many times in a row without losing interest and deviating to other artists. it's been weeks now and OWB is still pretty much the only thing i want to hear. my lastFM account stats tell the story. obvoiusly there's greatness there.

i agree that it's a very honest and emotional work. there's an intimacy that's absolutely wonderful. it's something of a slow burn and it's a shame reviewers have to chug through a listen and crank out an opinion so fast. i think it would have been reviewed more consistently top-notch if reviewers had taken the time to let the emotional side of the album grow on them.

//\/\/

11-23-2007, 06:26 AM

everything she said /\ except i can't bear 'ring road' it really bears repeat listening, which is more than i ever felt about ahdo.

Dirty0900

11-23-2007, 05:18 PM

To Heal is one of my fav UW songs and that is weird coming from a supposed banging techno off ya face sterotyped group.

taoyoyo

11-24-2007, 08:18 AM

i have to say i really like 'ring road', although it does makes me homesick for the uk and london in particular.

[ i'm sure i could write a 'spaghetti junction' track about atlanta or perhaps a GA 400-inspired lyric but i don't know how bouncy that would be ('people are shaving whilst driving their cars... let's have a little wreck, blame it all on sonny perdue' etc).]

i've heard the streets comparison dragged out but to me it makes more sense as a continuation of the 'bruce lee' style... the lyrics and style are very much karl and not streets fella.

cacophony

11-24-2007, 08:30 AM

[ i'm sure i could write a 'spaghetti junction' track about atlanta or perhaps a GA 400-inspired lyric but i don't know how bouncy that would be ('people are shaving whilst driving their cars... let's have a little wreck, blame it all on sonny perdue' etc).]

ring road = 285? ;)

except the lyrics would be something like, "stuck in traffic, trying to get onto the 400 on-ramp, 5 lanes condensing down into 1, hey look there's the hospital. oh now what's going on here? a lexus has just rear-ended a mercedes. this isn't going to help."

and that's where the song would end. :p

taoyoyo

11-24-2007, 08:41 AM

ring road = 285? ;)

except the lyrics would be something like, "stuck in traffic, trying to get onto the 400 on-ramp, 5 lanes condensing down into 1, hey look there's the hospital. oh now what's going on here? a lexus has just rear-ended a mercedes. this isn't going to help."

and that's where the song would end. :p

yes... 285... they call that spaghetti junction right? lovely place to be in rushhour with a car that's gone wonky.

i'm going to make a list of stupid things that people do here whilst driving... my favorite was some guy cleaning his teeth... using one of those sonic toothbrushes... i was curious as to how exactly he was going to rinse. (guess it saved him on the special syrup for the minty starbucks drink?).

... but back on subject. OWB is definitely an interesting album... a lot more song-based than past ventures. i can see why people like the first half as it's very hooky... the second half is almost an Eno-tribute but in the nicest possible way, it's very UW though. i don't mind the fact that it's not quite as 'banging' as usual at all. they made the album they wanted to make and that's always more interesting and inspiring than a band making an album for a record label or the fans.

Liam

11-24-2007, 11:24 PM

No comment on the music, but this album has some of the worst track names that I've ever heard! :D

Dirty0900

11-25-2007, 12:11 PM

No comment on the music, but this album has some of the worst track names that I've ever heard! :D

Thats true. Cuddle Bunny by a mile.

Cerberus

11-25-2007, 12:17 PM

OWB is simply this:

Underworld is not as RUSTY as Chemical Brothers (is it neccesary to say that I hated We Are The Night? XD)

Leon

11-25-2007, 01:30 PM

No comment on the music, but this album has some of the worst track names that I've ever heard! :D

I agree. When I saw the tracklisting for the first time, I actually thought it was a joke!

gillenium

11-25-2007, 07:58 PM

OWB is simply this:

Underworld is not as RUSTY as Chemical Brothers (is it neccesary to say that I hated We Are The Night? XD)

Aw, I loved We Are the Night! Especially live. Their live show is freakin out of this world. I wouldn't call either band rusty at all.

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j

11-25-2007, 10:03 PM

I thought the tracklisting was a joke too! Ahhh but it's just track names isn't it? I think the album IS one of the worst, but only by virtue of being from a band that's put out so many great albums in their career. Obviously it's a bit worrisome when you think of it in this way, like they've lost it, but seriously there have been so many ace tracks over the last 5 years, not even half of which made the album.

taoyoyo

11-26-2007, 08:44 AM

Rog

11-26-2007, 09:23 AM

Obviously it's a bit worrisome when you think of it in this way, like they've lost it, but seriously there have been so many ace tracks over the last 5 years, not even half of which made the album.
lost it?? are you sure you're listening to the same album?? As tao says what point is there in making another 'dubno' or 'stiti'?

negative1

11-26-2007, 11:36 AM

it's the sound of a band making the album they wanted to make... it doesn't sound like any of their other albums and i appreciate that. as much as i love 'dubnobass' or 'second toughest' or 'beaucoup fish' i don't want to hear another album like those... and i didn't get that... i'm enjoying this album the more i listen to it and enjoying the fact that it's not obvious underworld at times!

like it or not UW challenged us with this album. and good for them.

i don't like the album much either.....but that's fine..
since there's enough other material coming out to
supplement it with..

i've never known a band that constantly produced
material that i've liked 100% (kraftwerk comes pretty close though)..

i've enjoyed the riverrun material more, so i'm sticking
with listening to that..

-1

34958hq439-qjw9v5jq298v5j

11-26-2007, 07:23 PM

lost it?? are you sure you're listening to the same album?? As tao says what point is there in making another 'dubno' or 'stiti'?

I dunno, even if it's stylistically similar, I think if UW could make an album as good as those I doubt anyone would complain. I didn't say they've lost it, by the way :)

taoyoyo

11-27-2007, 02:50 AM

i don't like the album much either.....but that's fine..
since there's enough other material coming out to
supplement it with..

i've never known a band that constantly produced
material that i've liked 100% (kraftwerk comes pretty close though)..

i've enjoyed the riverrun material more, so i'm sticking
with listening to that..

-1
i'm cool with that, i remember how disappointed i was to hear 'middle of nowhere' by orbital after 'insides'.

i listened to the first riverrun today again and apart from wishing i had in a lossless format i enjoyed it.

it's just refreshing for me to see a band releasing exactly what they want... especially in these times, where record label executives (read accountants) are known to visit studios with their bands recording and 'offer them advise' on what they should be doing!

(i'm one of those 'music, it's art godammit' people!)

Liam

11-27-2007, 07:53 PM

i'm cool with that, i remember how disappointed i was to hear 'middle of nowhere' by orbital after 'insides'

Now there's a can of worms that every music forum on the web knows. I think Middle of Nowhere is their best album!

galama

11-27-2007, 10:26 PM

2 things:

Everything is matter of opinion(the pressure of opiniouuns)

Great musicians don't repeat themselves.

Cerberus

11-28-2007, 02:12 AM

Great musicians don't repeat themselves.

GOD

Because of that, I love ADHO too. I'd love to hear another Twist, another Little Speaker. Another single like Ansum too. But maybe I can only wait for something similar :)

taoyoyo

11-28-2007, 02:26 AM

Now there's a can of worms that every music forum on the web knows. I think Middle of Nowhere is their best album!

Fantastic! :)

My 'Insides' is your 'Middle of Nowhere'! :D

Maybe I need to dig that out again... I thought 'Style' was a fantastic single and I loved all the mixes. The 'John Craven's Newsround' track made me chuckle but I can't remember liking too much else off that album. It felt very digital to me after the warmth of 'In Sides'.

It just goes to show what a great thing individuality is and how one's perception (or taste) can be completely different, even when honed down to 'you like Orbital, I like Orbital' levels.

I would like to know why 'MON' does it for you... not in any snarkey way... I'm genuinely interested. :)

Flywaver

11-28-2007, 04:13 AM

I was more disappointed hearing 'The Altogether' after 'The Middle Of Nowhere!' :eek:

potatobroth

11-28-2007, 07:22 AM

I'm with Rog, I think this album is fantastic.

I skip 100% of the time: Boy, Boy, Boy and Cuddle Bunny
I skip 50% of the time Good Morning Cockerel

Other than that, this album delivers some great vibes. Replace BBB with either Darc, Bamboo, or a slightly less dancy version of Always Loved a Film/Boots and put that track after Cuddlebunny and we have a winner! Cuddle Bunny BEGS to lead into a track like Bamboo - why even include it on the album if you are going to drop the vibe its leading us towards?

Ring Road is fantastic. I understand how others wont like it, but it actually the third most played track for me on that album according to my iTunes. iTunes NEVER lies! :D

cacophony

11-28-2007, 08:50 AM

^ i agree with you 100%. get out of my head. :)

negative1

11-28-2007, 09:09 AM

I'm with Rog, I think this album is fantastic.

I skip 100% of the time: Boy, Boy, Boy and Cuddle Bunny
I skip 50% of the time Good Morning Cockerel

if you skip all these tracks, there's not much left is there..
how does that make it 'fantastic'?

Other than that, this album delivers some great vibes. Replace BBB with either Darc, Bamboo, or a slightly less dancy version of Always Loved a Film/Boots and put that track after Cuddlebunny and we have a winner! Cuddle Bunny BEGS to lead into a track like Bamboo - why even include it on the album if you are going to drop the vibe its leading us towards?

i've stopped listening to the album completely now,
there's no point to it...since i skip over most of it..

what i do listen to is a custom track listing, mix of the
recent songs/mixes i do like, including all the web only,
etc tracks...

your really should listen to the second part of the interview
posted....like i keep mentioning to everyone else on the board
also...

i'll try to do a transcript of the second part..

they answer pretty much every question about each
album track, why it was on the album, and what the
purpose of it was, and why it ended up being the way
it did...

i don't speculate anymore on why the album is the way it is,
or why they picked certain tracks..

there was a plan, as much as we might not like it,
there was one..

later
-1

BrotherLovesDub

11-28-2007, 09:44 AM

In 5-10 years, i'll rate Oblivion with Bells as high as Dubnobass + STITI. All 3 albums are unique but they all form a cohesive unit. I love OWB and couldn't imagine the band releasing a better album at this stage in their career.

there are a few gems left unreleased at this point. what i'd like to see is Underworld do a Live Studio Mix for their next release. Perform the unreleased songs live in the studio with Darren Price, perhaps include Pricey's jams too.

they're clearly capable of doing it and it's something they haven't done yet. could be interesting.

potatobroth

11-28-2007, 11:47 AM

^ i agree with you 100%. get out of my head. :)

But its so cozy and well decorated in here.

potatobroth

11-28-2007, 11:53 AM

if you skip all these tracks, there's not much left is there..
how does that make it 'fantastic'?
Whats left is: Crocodile, Beautiful Burnout, Holding the Moth, To Heal, Ring Road, Faxed Invitation and Best Mamgu Ever. That right there is pretty awesome.

Well because I skip on ALL Underworld albums.

DUBNO: Surfboy, M.E.
STITI: Blueski, Stagger
BF: Skym, Push Downstairs
AHDO: EssGee, Little Speaker
OWB: BoyBoyBoy, Cuddlebunny

Its still a fantastic album. I only truly dislike one song - Boy Boy Boy - and the other one is just a lead-in track. Basically the good far outweighs the skips on this album.

I actually like some of the songs above that I skip, but I just hardly ever want to hear them. Although EssGee is just the worst. Blech!

cacophony

11-28-2007, 01:52 PM

AHDO: EssGee, Little Speaker

yes. i also skip sola sistim. because sola sistim is to AHDO as boy boy boy is to OWB.

taoyoyo

11-28-2007, 03:50 PM

I was more disappointed hearing 'The Altogether' after 'The Middle Of Nowhere!' :eek:

haha! :)

see i thought 'the altogether' was better than 'middle of nowhere'. not a perfect album by any means but an improvement. :D

taoyoyo

11-28-2007, 03:53 PM

'boy boy boy' has taken on a new dimension for me since hearing/seeing the live version on saturday with rick's vocoded vocals... both him and karl wrung some heavy soul vocal on it. i was a bit unsure of the track until that point.

Cerberus

11-28-2007, 08:38 PM

DUBNO: Surfboy, M.E.
STITI: Blueski, Stagger
BF: Skym, Push Downstairs
AHDO: EssGee, Little Speaker
OWB: BoyBoyBoy, Cuddlebunny

Surfboy??? M.E.??? Stagger??? Little Speaker???

Four great tracks of course, I don't know why do you dislike ADHO so much...

And also, you never mention a great track in OWB: Glam Bucket (with Crocodile, B. Burnout, Best Magmu Ever and Loads Of Birds, the greatest in the last album).

cacophony

11-28-2007, 11:00 PM

And also, you never mention a great track in OWB: Glam Bucket

then let me mention it. i'm friggin' obsessed with glam bucket. i just checked my last.fm stats and for every OWB track i've listened to, i've listened to glam bucket twice. i can't get enough of it. i want to listen to it loud, lots, and over and over and over and over. love it.

dubman

11-29-2007, 02:15 AM

good thread.

for me the thing with OWB is that it has as many pratfalls as AHDO and BF, it's just that as with each successive album, the falls come a bit harder than last time. skym and mama just had really ill-advised moments, but were still listenable. Trim and DA3D were mildly embarassing to listen to overall, each one potentially displaying a band with its quality filters turned off and losing the ear for something special as opposed to just different.
on this album the lows are so low that its come to a love/hate fiasco. ring road, with its preposterous drums and a shouty pseudo-beat poet/unmusical vocals, is so brazenly unconcerned with sounding like anything we've heard before and tap into something really 80s about them that you'll eventually be charmed by it or just get disgusted. speaking of the 80's... boy, boy, boy is almost irredeemable. i didnt really want to hear it live, and nothing's changed because of that. i think it's bombastic and pretentious and overblown and shitty. it sounds bad from the first second with it's tinny beat to the last asinine string section. it is the worst thing they've done. worse than a grand majority of underneath the radar.

with that said, faxed invitation and glam bucket handily make up for it by showing them at their most brilliant (something which AHDO, for all its great tracks, never managed to acheive).
other songs range from decent to great. i keep warming up to crocodile AND the video for it (purely because i'm in my garage when i play it and i'm always walking around doing something... hmmm nicely familiar). BB is pretty good, but not innovative in the least. got into holding the moth pretty severely today, to heal is still very nice. I DONT SEE WHAT YOU PEOPLE HAVE AGAINST CUDDLE BUNNY. as far as atmospheric tracks go it's absolutely beautiful and real. i'm so glad they included something pushing them just that much more somewhere else, that and just the sounds of it are really inspiring. cockerel is great too. not a huge fa of mamgu as it's a drawl of downtempo with some pretty things around but totally aimless. i'll take it but least inspired closing from them ever. i may not be a fan of M.E. but it certainly attempted SOMETHING.

so if we're going by skipping tracks:

dubno: M.E
STITI: Juanita (sue me. it goes too long. i skipped it and listened to the rest and it felt so much more complete and whole)
BF: Skym and winjer 75% of the time. Jumbo 50%. something like a mama 25%
AHDO: Twist 25% of the time. Sola sistim, Trim, and DA3D 100% of the time. LITTLE SPEAKER AND ESSGEE ARE ALWAYS PLAYED BECAUSE THEY'RE GREAT
OWB: Ring Road 70% of the time. Boy Boy Boy 100%. i 'forget' to play Mamgu about 50%

King of Snake

11-29-2007, 03:11 AM

I kinda liked Glam Bucket at first, but I've developed a dislike for it now for some reason. I guess it's because it's because the whole song is basically this buildup to those grating violin-like screeches that just hurt my ears. It just sounds depressing to me.
Boy Boy Boy for me ins't quite as bad as Dubman makes it out to be but it doesn't really do anything for me either. The vocoder on the live version added some interest. The ending with the strings is pretty bad, and I feel the same with the ending of Holding the Moth with it's noodly piano nonsense (i like the rest of the track up to that though).

potatobroth

11-29-2007, 08:35 AM

Surfboy??? M.E.??? Stagger??? Little Speaker???

Four great tracks of course, I don't know why do you dislike ADHO so much...

And also, you never mention a great track in OWB: Glam Bucket (with Crocodile, B. Burnout, Best Magmu Ever and Loads Of Birds, the greatest in the last album).
I just overlooked Glam Bucket. I love that track.

Surfboy? are you serious? That track is so blah it hurts. Thats an easy skip for me. M.E. yep, its true I skip that track every time. Stagger bores me and Little Speaker is ok, but its so long and takes so long to get to the good part that I skip it or at the very least fast-forward it.

Thats not to say I don't like these tracks at all, its just that if I want to listen to say, AHDO, then I usually don't want to hear Little Spearker or Ess Gee.

And who said I disliked AHDO? I like that album quite a bit. Its not their strongest but there are plenty of tracks I really like on there: Twist, TMO, Luetin, Ballet Lane, Trim, among others.

My whole point was that with each Underworld album, there are songs that even though I may like them, I still skip a decent amount of em. Boy Boy Boy and Ess Gee = 100% skip. I really dislike those songs. Everytime I hear someone say that they love Ess Gee, I go back and see if I've missed something. Sure enough, I didn't. IMHO, its terrible and I can't get past that.

Cuddle Bunny isn't bad so to say, but it leads NO WHERE. Cuddle Bunny needs to lead right into Bamboo (the one played from the Oblivion Ball special) for it to be used to its fullest potential. Its as if Stagger were to lead into Ess Gee. It wouldn't make sense and CB leading into Faxed Invitation really ruins the vibe its created.

cacophony

11-29-2007, 09:19 AM

ring road, with its preposterous drums and a shouty pseudo-beat poet/unmusical vocals, is so brazenly unconcerned with sounding like anything we've heard before and tap into something really 80s about them that you'll eventually be charmed by it or just get disgusted.
i have to say, i wouldn't have put it like this but i have to agree with your assessment. i was disgusted the first 2 or 3 times i heard ring road. but then the vocoded bits suddenly struck me as lovely and the character of the song charmed the pants off of me. now i love the track, but i realize that affection is an anomaly. if any other musical act had produced it, i would have never forgiven it. but as it stands, i absolutely adore it now in spite of the fact that i completely understand why people hate it.

i love it, but i would be too embarrassed to blast it in my car with the windows down. i don't want to be overheard listening to it. but i love it love it love it. it's a love that dare not speak its name.

Rog

11-29-2007, 10:01 AM

track skipping.......hmmm....... i don't generally do it meself.i can understand why some don't like ringroad but my son loves it and thinks its the best tune on the album!.....he also likes occasional 'streets' tracks (the fool) so i can understand where he's coming from. Its the only track i'm ambivilant towards......as for other tracks i don't like moaner and half the tracks on AHDO but like all the tracks on STITI and dubno. 'Underneath the radar' is vile! i can't stand it and i will give the vinyl away to anyone who wants it..........:)

//\/\/

11-29-2007, 10:04 AM

maybe that has something to do with not living in engerland? it sounds too similar to cod-poetry being hawked round on records over here that i just don't buy into (cf the streets, lilly allen, blah...) cramming words into unscanned lines etc - just not my cuppa apples and thank you and ta

...as for the rest - beyond the unbelievable opening 2 tracks (which the rest, understandably, fail to live up to) - most of it is growing nicely on me, bar the odd bit of soundtrack "deep voice" in particular - oh yes!

(and to whoever said "me" was no good - wtf?!?!)

negative1

11-29-2007, 10:39 AM

good thread.
STITI: Juanita (sue me. it goes too long. i skipped it and listened to the )

there's a 3 min 50 sec promo edit, that you might like....

i actually skip banstyle/sappys curry for the same reason
[too long], and the remix of banstyle is ok...

later
-1

botkiller

11-29-2007, 01:08 PM

What I dig about OWB is that it's not a genre album. It spans all manner of emotions, sounds and feelings, and I think it's an album that UW really made for themselves, like they were not setting out to make another dance floor banger, or anything else, they just wanted to make an album, and do it as much with their hearts as always. They suceeded greatly.

While it is not my favorite album, it is definitely an awesome listen and it grows on me every time I load it up.

Liam

11-30-2007, 05:21 PM

I'm not going to be dragged into the OWB debate.

***********
ORBITAL SIDE LINE
***********

Regardless of our opinions, that The Blue Album is their worst is an objective truth. :D

Rog

11-30-2007, 07:03 PM

bollocks! The altogether is the worst:D

Rog

11-30-2007, 07:08 PM

:p
i've stopped listening to the album completely now,
there's no point to it...since i skip over most of it..

-1

you're just wrong.....in a nice way:p

Rog

11-30-2007, 07:13 PM

..........and whoever it was who said that juanita was crap needs their head looking at (again in a nice way)..... it's my favourite track EVER:p

Rog

11-30-2007, 07:25 PM

........heh! at the end of the day if we liked the same thing life would be fuckin boring.....am i right\?:D

am i pissed?:D

right on both counts maybe?

taoyoyo

12-01-2007, 08:10 AM

bollocks! The altogether is the worst:D

oi! you! outside now! :D

(worse than what rog?)

Flywaver

12-01-2007, 01:16 PM

taoyoyo

12-01-2007, 05:05 PM

Right thats it. Ya puppets run by Muppets!

Orbitals best to worst

1 Brown Album
2 Insides
3 Snivilisation
4 The Middle Of Nowhere ( Lovely snow flakes on the ceiling hearing Way Out at V99) :)
5 The Blue Album
6 The Altogether
7 The Green Album. (Sorry i find it bland :( " But hey it started the journey") :)

Ohh and some other bands best to worst...

1. Second Toughest In The Infants
2. Oblivion With Bells
3. DubNoBasWithMyHeadMan
4. A Hundred days Off ( Sometimes depending what mood Beacoup Fish is better )
5. Beacoup Fish ( Push Upstairs was ruined for me as i keep thinking of Big Brother with this but the album had a redeeming kittens ) :)

BRING IT ON!

okay, this might be a fun exercise:

1 Insides
2 Snivilisation
3 Brown Album
4 The Green Album
5 The Blue Album
6 The Altogether
7 The Middle Of Nowhere

UW:

1 DubNoBasWithMyHeadMan
2 Second Toughest In The Infants
3 Oblivion With Bells
4 Beacoup Fish
5 A Hundred Days Off

It should be noted that the UW order was a lot closer from top to bottom than the orbital one!

dubman

12-01-2007, 07:42 PM

i cant even be called an orbital fan, everything is ass backwards for me. i can't even really rate them as i've kept the altogether for slightly sentimental reasons but sold off "In sides" because it had a wealth of ideas produced for the shittiest speakers ever. there was no weight to the sound and i hated listening to it except for the box and the first one. snivilisation bored me, didnt like green, loved brown, blue is fun, and middle of nowhere is my favorite

as for underworld
1: second toughest
2: beaucoup fish
3: dubnobass
4: oblivion with bells
5: hundred days off

Rog

12-02-2007, 05:05 PM

1st Brown
2. insides
3. snivilisation
4. green
5. blue
6. altogether

1. STITI
1. dubno
1. OWB
2. BF
3. 100 days off

is about where i am at the moment

Liam

12-02-2007, 09:18 PM

Rhythm & Stealth is better than Leftism :p

taoyoyo

12-02-2007, 11:20 PM

Rhythm & Stealth is better than Leftism :p

Oddly enough, I would agree with you completely. :p

Rog

12-03-2007, 08:58 AM

Now i know you're joking!!:P

Leon

12-03-2007, 10:29 AM

Oddly enough, I would agree with you completely. :p

I listen to it more than Leftism lately, mainly because it's better as a whole album. Still, Leftism has the quality tunes, although a bit dated, that still rock.

RandomViolence

12-03-2007, 04:23 PM

1st Brown
2. insides
3. snivilisation
4. green
5. blue
6. altogether

1. STITI
1. dubno
1. OWB
2. BF
3. 100 days off

is about where i am at the moment

You and I are of one mind.

gillenium

12-03-2007, 04:37 PM

Time to be controversial.

Orbital isn't that great and Oblivion with Bells is the best.

Ooooooh!

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12-03-2007, 07:30 PM

qirex

12-03-2007, 07:42 PM

In sides is lush from start to finish, you can't help but consider it one of the best "electronica" albums of all time; In my opinion.

How'd we get on Orbital in an UW forum anyway?

*Jams out to "dark train"*

patrick

12-03-2007, 08:35 PM

yes... insides is the best!

done and done!

taoyoyo

12-04-2007, 06:07 AM

Now i know you're joking!!:P

nope, 'leftism' has some cool tracks (and 'open up' being dropped at midnight at a nye megadog was a fantastic moment!) but is a little bit erm, 'proto-prog house' but 'stealth' sounds *amazing*... it has a fantastic cohesive feel to it.

i feel like we need to have a chat about oliver lieb or something to make up rog?! ;) :)

holden

12-04-2007, 07:35 AM

Personally I always thought that Insides and Snivilisation were the best, Brown and Middle of Nowhere were great but just a little shy of perfect, and the other three were merely okay. I will contend that Altogether had some cool songs though! (so did Blue, really)

Pretty much my sentiments, exactly! As for the Leftfield debate, i think "Leftism" is much more varied, being largely constructed of previously released singles, and it has that epic quality (some consider it the "Dark side of the moon" for electronic music...doubt it...that's squarely in the Orb's Ultraworld domain!), whereas "Rhythm and Stealth" feels so much more mechanical, an effort to be consistently hard, but sounding a lil tired.

If it hasn't already been brought up, we did a lil ranking of the UW albums in this thread:
http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showthread.php?t=6883