beautiful burnout

[Rog]

apart from being the nickname of janie......... is a most fuckin awesome tune......it makes me cry its so lovely........:o

[Jan]

I rate Biro the Leggy higher. A shame that there is just the 96 kbps version.

Honestly, when I heard the album version the first time (from a downloaded version), I though for a moment that all the use of traditional instruments in the beginning (especially at 0:45-1:00) was the watermark... :o
Also I don't think the bongos blend in particularly well.

I don't think it's an awful song, but Biro the Leggy captured that special atmosphere of the song much better in it's simplicity.
BB on the other hand, with its many, many things going on, tries to much (and fails somehow). Karl repeats the lyrics so often that they almost lose their meaning and effect. The synth stabs are cool for the first time, but after the 20th listen they are just annoying.

Oh my god, I just noticed that I sound like a bad critic that BLD hates so much.
*puts flame-proof vest on*

[cacophony]

speaking of that, allow me to ask one of the stupidest questions ever asked on this forum:

which came first? the track name or the dirty forum nickname?

[Jan]

The dirty forum name. Which came from the lyrics of Biro the Leggy. Which was an early incarnation of the Beautiful Burnout we have now. :)

[cacophony]

i'd love to hear this early version, particularly after reading your comparison between the two.

[Jan]

Recently bryantm3 posted a link:
http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showpost.php?p=80153&postcount=24

It still might sound like a lot work in progress, but for me BB was a missed opportunity to build on that and refine it.
This early version makes me think about trains, sunsets on the beach, used cars, and of course rayray ;).
BB feels sort of empty, even though it is full with effects... I can't really explain it.

[cacophony]

thanks for the link. maybe it's the old "you prefer the one you heard first" syndrome, but i really prefer the direction they went with the OWB version. and the live performance on wednesday gave me goosebumps.

[Cadevil]

I really didn't get into this track until I finally heard the OwB version...

Keep in mind though that Biro the Leggy dates back to pre-AHDO and spawned Mo Move. The song has gone through many iterations at Lemonworld...apparently.

[BeautifulBurnout]

It is (quite evidently) one of my favourite UW tunes ever. I loved it as Biro, I love it even more in its present version. And live, now that it has been perfected (no disrespect to R & K, but they kinda fudged it a bit at Cocoon last year) is absolutely goose-bump-tastic.

I disagree about the bongos. I think it brings a kind of purpose to the song that was missing in the original Biro version. Prior to that, Biro was beautiful but didn't go very far. It would have made a very good ambient track in and of itself, but this has metamorphosed into a dark, brooding, delicious dance track.

My favourite song on the album, and possibly now my second favourite UW song ever, just behind PG.

[Blueski]

It's a good track. But I rate other songs on the album much higher, like 'boy, boy, boy', 'faxed invitation', 'holding the moth' and 'cuddle bunny vs. the celtic villages'.

[Dirty0900]

hasnt the name been kicking around since the AHDO era? on the t-shirt pack you could buy, one of the iron on sticker things was "biro the leggy". then we heard it on a lemonworld broadcast and later the peel tribute show thingy.

much prefer the album version, never liked the strange vocal about the car in BTL. guess it was an experimental vocal for autotrader;)

[Mike]

A really cool early Biro The Leggy was played live in 2000 ;-) We used to call it Trousers, in the olden days.

Ive never been a huge fan of it, mainly because the versions ive heard have been distorted, lossy or too much crowd noise, but also because i found it rather boring and dull..

When i heard BB on the new album, i really like it - there are parts of the track which build and build, and i keep hearing new sounds that i really like.

Interestingly Karl has been refering to BB as biro on the "official" setlists..

Mike

[cacophony]

this is what i get for jumping into the deep end of the pool with the truly committed die-hard fanboys/girls. :D

[BeautifulBurnout]

this is what i get for jumping into the deep end of the pool with the truly committed die-hard fanboys/girls. :D

Geeks r Us! :p ;)

[cacophony]

seriously, i thought i was a crazed fanatic completionist until i started peeking into this section of the dirty community. now i'm disappointed by my lack of dedication. i am a mere padawan learner, it would seem. ;)

[viddy]

I like the breakdown of Biro The Leggy. It was simpler; Karls vocals sounded better with just reverb and no delay and it had a more pronouced bassline.

The breakdown of Biro The Leggy combined with the beat and "action" of Beautiful Burnout would be sweet.

[votingfloater]

Biro the Leggy might still be my favourite things they've done so far. I have no idea why; everything you've all said is pretty fair, but despite that I still listen to it pretty often.

Plus, Biro got there first and has been digging in ever since. The squelchy, farty bass suits it. The whole thing is rougher and dirtier and I love it to bits.

But it wouldn't have seemed right like that on OWB, which I'm actually really getting into, so everything works out for the best, no?

[change]

The squelchy, farty bass suits it.

I caught a farty bass one time when i was fishing down in Louisiana, it was pretty easy to know where he was swimming.

get it? ;)

Seriously though Biro reminds me a lot, like someone else mentioned, of Phonestrap. An early version that was begging to be built up. I still like it, but I like the end result more.