Next single: Boy Boy Boy (was: whhhhhaaaaA?????????????)

[TheBang]

If you do a Google search for TRCP-18, you'll find numerous places have "Boy, Boy, Boy" listed as the next single for release on 11/14/07.

Tracklisting from http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2632360 (thanks mark3):

1. Boy, Boy, Boy (Album Version)
2. Boy, Boy, Boy (Switch Remix)
3. Peach Tree
4. Holding the Moth (Jesse Rose mix)
5. Boy, Boy, Boy (Video)

[BrotherLovesDub]

http://kwiebusch.blogspot.com/2007/10/2nd-single.html

posted monday at Kweibusch. not discussed much here though so...

btw, anyone who hasn't made Lloyd's blog a daily stop need to do so asap. absolutely the most up to date, complete source of underworld related news online. if you don't like the babble and noise from the forums but want to stay connected to all the action, check http://kwiebusch.blogspot.com/ on a regular basis.


as for boy, boy, boy being the next single, i'm skeptical. matt reminded me that twist was listed on some japanese sites in 02 as being a single but never came out. apparently, Simian Mobile Disco have done a mix of Ring Road and Beautiful Burnout already has a remix floating around. they could release diff. songs in diff. countries but who knows. boy, boy, boy does sort of make sense with Larry Mullen Jr. in the credits (and U2's name on the sticker on front), and it is a very dynamic/unique song from Underworld. radio friendly etc. i'd rather see beautiful burnout and glam bucket as singles but that's just being greedy.

[TheBang]

Yeah, I saw that, but wanted to post it in a separate thread here, since people were still holding out hope for Holding the Moth, and also the listing started showing up on a lot more sites.

[BrotherLovesDub]

yeah, it's a good idea since it wasn't really posted here and i don't think many (enough) people visit Lloyd's blog.

i do find myself singing "boy boy boy boy, wraps his arms around a skinny thing..." quite a bit.

[dc_04]

i do find myself singing "boy boy boy boy, wraps his arms around a skinny thing..." quite a bit.

that's the worst part of this track, imo.. it's dreadfully flat and forced - the only track on the album i consistently skip over - but damn if it ain't catchy.

- dc

[the mongoose]

One of the best tracks on the cd...can't wait for the various mixes but mainly some tasty B-sides.:)

Here's to hoping it's like the classic singles (packed full of value...sometimes more like an EP) than the standard single fare of late.

[lloyd]

Thnx for the heads up ;)

Here (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=TRCP-18) they list it with the discription that it contains video too.

[TheBang]

"Japan-tour single", eh? Well, it is right before the tour hits Japan. Maybe it'll be a Japan exclusive?

[dubman]

god i cant stand this one. bombastic empty calories that inspire nothing and falls flat on its face. starts boring, ends over-inflated, i cant find anything redeeming in this track at all anymore, it's just terrible.

[mark3]

Track listing:

1. Boy, Boy, Boy (Album Version)
2. Boy, Boy, Boy (Remix)
3. Crocodile (Innervisions Orchestra mix)
4. Faxed Invitation (Jesse Rose mix)
5. Boy, Boy, Boy (Video)

Fucking awesome, especially looking forward to the Faxed Invitation remix

Edit: source: http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2632360

[big screen satellite]

Track listing:

1. Boy, Boy, Boy (Album Version)
2. Boy, Boy, Boy (Remix)
3. Crocodile (Innervisions Orchestra mix)
4. Faxed Invitation (Jesse Rose mix)
5. Boy, Boy, Boy (Video)

Fucking awesome, especially looking forward to the Faxed Invitation remix


where'd you get that info?

[mark3]

Sorry, forgot the link http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/2632360

[joethelion]

http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=417294

how didn't I know about this before???!?!?!??!?!?!?!

1. Boy, Boy, Boy (Album Version)
2. Boy, Boy, Boy (Remix)
3. Crocodile (Innervisions Orchestra mix)
4. Faxed Invitation (Jesse Rose mix)
5. Boy, Boy, Boy (Video)

[dc_04]

yea :(

- dc

[bryantm3]

you didn't get the e-mail?
we were all notified of this at least a week ago.

[luminary]

I think this a a great track and is an appropriate second single.

The track has really grown on me. I love the vocal harmonies in particular

Really looking forward to hearing the remix

:)

[lloyd]

http://kwiebusch.blogspot.com/2007/10/2nd-single.html
october 1th...
copied that info from these boards I think.

[dubman]

UGH.
i hate this song so much. but that's part of it right.
I ALSO HATE THESE REMIXES.

[the mongoose]

One of the better tracks.....especially for a single. Can't wait to hear the remix.

"Your razor wire beauty.":cool:

[big screen satellite]

http://kwiebusch.blogspot.com/2007/10/2nd-single.html
october 1th...
copied that info from these boards I think.

indeed i posted it in this thread :

http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showthread.php?t=6644 a while back - when i updated the front page....

not sure why people are surprised and / or bothered - what does it matter that its a single... its got a remix - which is good, and a remix of faxed invitation... also good - more UW material in the open

its not gonna dent the charts specifically, its just another Underworld record that most people (here) will buy in some format - i like ring road, but tbh it would make no difference if it didn't get released as a single because its on the album...

although i want to hear the SMD version of it... :D

[stimpee]

Threads merged :)

(joethelion: get with the programme!) :cool:

[joethelion]

yea - sorry guys...

It just really surprised me, when I got an email from eil.com & amongst their "new singles" releases... there was Underworld

I don't know how I missed it!

[mark3]

Seems this release will be delayed.. now some listings say November 20th while HMV Japan says 'Unreleased item'.... And still no info on the Traffic site

[holden]

Seems this release will be delayed.. now some listings say November 20th while HMV Japan says 'Unreleased item'.... And still no info on the Traffic site

Seems like it might be smart to coincide a new single with tourdates, if/when the shows are rescheduled ?

[crank]

UGH.
i hate this song so much. but that's part of it right.
I ALSO HATE THESE REMIXES.

dubMAN, have you heard these trax already?
crANk

[Dirty0900]

Not on UK release system for anytime soon.

[mark3]

Seems the December 12th release date is now official.

Cat# TRCP18

Boy, Boy, Boy
Boy, Boy, Boy (Switch Remix)
Peach Tree
Holding the Moth (Jesse Rose Remix)Listen here

http://trafficjpn.com/underworld/newrelease.html

I wonder if there's also a Jesse Rose Remix of Faxed Invitation ??

[mmm skyscraper]

the cover of the single is nice

does this mean there is no remix for faxed invitation?

[negative1]

yes, the cover is pretty cool.
i listenend to the audio previews...
pretty wild for the switch remix..


also, that is just a very cool site with
a lot of extras, videos, pics, etc, etc..
works well with the typography, and
japanese characters....why can't we
get sites like that...go figure..

later
-1

[Dirty0900]

Ummmmmmmmmm hasn't Peach tree been a B-side on Croc? Im guessin this a Japanese only release?

Will check these out on work system tomorrow.

[TheBang]

Artwork and disc shots on discogs now:

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=1170780&showpending=1

[Ufotofu]

Artwork and disc shots on discogs now:

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=1170780&showpending=1

That artwork is certainly different. I like it!

[mark3]

Did anyone else notice that Peach Tree on the BBB single is different from the one on the UK Croc single? The beat comes in one minute earlier on the BBB single, and the last three minutes also differ slightly. And throughout the track, I think the beat is crisper on the BBB version, but that could be me. Track length is the same, approximately 12:36

[TheBang]

I sat down and listened to both Peach Tree's now that I have them, and that's very interesting. The Croc Peach Tree seems to be the same mix as the RiverRun download version. The BBB Peach Tree, though, seems to have been redone. Very interesting.

[negative1]

what a waste of a single..

yes , the artwork is cool..
peach tree is awesome..

but the other tracks are a waste..
holding the moth is bruce lee part 2..

and the switch mix of boy boy boy is
possibly the worst remix EVER made
of an underworld track (including that
weird bruce lee(dobropet) mix)...

ughhh

later
-1

[nosajmunson]

what a waste of a single..
but the other tracks are a waste..
holding the moth is bruce lee part 2..
and the switch mix of boy boy boy is
possibly the worst remix EVER made
of an underworld track (including that
weird bruce lee(dobropet) mix)...

ughhh

later
-1

Amen. That Switch Remix actually made me convulse with repulsion. I apologized to my speakers when I was done listening to it.

[jose m]

sometimes the japs aren't so lucky eh?:D

[holden]

Holding The Moth is the new Bruce Lee? Hmmm...more like the new Cups, in my opinion. Wither way, i dig both those Beaucoup tracks, as well as HtM, so no worries! Or did you just mean the Jess Rose remix? i thought it was okay, just a bit more dancey than the lp version.


Yeah, not sure about "Peach Tree" being effectively a B-Side on this single. Chances are the folks who buy the BBB single already have RR, and the differences are subtle. Seems a little bit like recycling. Why not stick Pearl's Girl on there?:p

[gillenium]

Nooo, Ring Road is the new Bruce Lee. Holding the Moth is the new Cups. Both are improvements in my opinion.

[DwarfeD]

and the switch mix of boy boy boy is
possibly the worst remix EVER made
of an underworld track (including that
weird bruce lee(dobropet) mix)...

I always liked that dobropet mix of Bruce Lee, it had that really weird hard en dark sound where you wondered can I dance to this? Or should I just listen :rolleyes:

[khouri]

I really, really, really liked "Holding The Moth" when it was "Globe" and had that really cool electro-techno style ending riffs, like the version played at the Sven Vath show. I couldn't wait to hear a studio version, but "Holding The Moth" is probably my biggest disappointment on the new album. Unlike the brilliant, instantly classic "Crocodile" and "Beautiful Burnout," they took a live thing they'd been doing and made it much, much worse.

What they've done to "HTM" on OWB is load it up with extra noises and turn it into a kind of Ring Road II but with even more AHDO-era piano junk at the end. That synth bit I like isn't even there anymore. Yeah, Bruce Lee.

I fear "Bamboo" is to suffer the same fate. The version they spotlighted in a recent UWlive broadcast was a tragedy compared to the gorgeous, dark and building track from the Music Bank download from years ago. That new riff is just unnecessary. When it comes time to release "Bamboo," please, Underworld, "KEEP IT SIMPLE."

[dubman]

it does strike me that this album, as improved as it on the last one, is a bit of a U2 moment for them, so some tracks have this unecessary polish and work on them that could have benefitted from.. less of it.
not going so far as to write off bamboo. i dont know if it needs more, but to make a studio version it needs something a bit.. better. it works fine as a live jam, tho.

but dobropet is excellent.

[negative1]

if anything, this release has made me look at the 'bruce lee'
release as almost brilliant..

i can't stop listening to the micronauts mix of it..
(highlighted on their new 2cd remix retrospective..
here : http://www.darktrain.org/dirty/forums/showpost.php?p=85168&postcount=633 )

whats wrong with me?
later
-1

[holden]

it does strike me that this album, as improved as it on the last one, is a bit of a U2 moment for them, so some tracks have this unecessary polish and work on them that could have benefitted from.. less of it.


I can't speak to the "u2 moment" you mention, since imho, everything U2 has done since "Zooropa" has been a replay of their past, and a watered down version, at that ("all that you can't leave behind"= snoooozefest. Who's with me?!)
But i think the extra layers and effects on OWB give it more of a live feel than AHDO and anything else in their cannon. I remember reading an interview (in EQ? Keyboard? i forget) around the AHDO era, where KArl mentioned that Rick spent hours moving the percussion a fraction off-beat to make it sound as if performed live. But sadly, the result was a very sterile, mechanical sounding LP. With OWB, they have these little voice snippets that remind you that there are humans behind the beats. And there's a "space" in most of the tracks, raw guitar, a bit of experimentalism that we probably haven't heard since STITI. Maybe using Abbey Road studios and their recent soundtrack work gave them an appreciation for a lil studio ambience that certainly doesn't come through on BF and AHDO.

Holden

p.s to Negative1: yes, Micronauts remix of Bruce Lee is realy good actually. I love how it starts with a noisy mess, goes quiet, and then becomes this stomping electro animal. It actually seems ahead of its times. Fits right in with the minimal techno of 07!

[dubman]

i suppose i was being vague.
i remember reading an interview with bono where they were effectively dismissing a wide swath of their early-ish discography because much of the songs sounded underproduced and unfinished. this was a little bit after "all that you can't leave behind", an album that buried what was already a group dubiously teetering between fashion and experimentation, then just fell completely into outright pap. and it made me think that their worst album came at a time when they were in the ideal position to have all the tools they ever wanted to get the sounds "just so". it was super clean, very deliberate. they wanted to make the type of song that could be structurally perfected more than one that was interesting or maybe just instinctively "right".

so now take OWB. johnny metropolis has a valid point, i think, in comparing globe, which feels very loose and appropriately live, and HTM, which for some reason incorporates some jazzy riffs, piano, and gives it a very different lounge atmosphere. it's good in some ways: a different way of doing the stram-of-lyrics approach, but i have to ask whether it's really necessary. it doesnt make it any more interesting, and simply adding more for the sake of musicality or filling it out is why i made the U2 comment. it doesnt *sound* as if each part were necessary to the whole, but more like musicians being "proper" musicians.
this basically means (again, to me... this is just what i notice and dont mean to say that this exactly is what happening as UW make music) that most images and ideas they go after get watered down not by process, but by the obligations of a *certain* process the music goes through. tracks that are, i guess, supposed to sound big-hearted and booming, like ring road, fall just short of that extra uncouth enthusiasm needed and end up sounding the bad kind of goofy.

this isnt a persistant problem on OWB for me. it's still underworld, and they're still doing great things. faxed invitation is wonderful for what little it has and glam bucket is a gem and a fine example of this perfection taken in the right direction. but there's something ominous creeping in the background. a certain standard for the kind of finish and production that would make tracks like a majority of the riverrun "not fit" for wide release even as most of it is more interesting than a lot of OWB. as nice as "to heal" is, wtf is the point? and why take out the spoken bit sample? the part that brought it a bit further away from routine cinematic baiting? i get the nagging feeling that even the first two tracks could have done a lot more with a lot less; BB especially sounds constrained, despite the unusual lyrical arrangement, in explicitly being driving and "intense" so that it doesnt feel adaptable to different ideas and interpretations.

this is something i've noticed in them since AHDO's release. the kind of visual versatility and sleight of hand shown in videos like push upstairs and jumbo gave way to straight interpretations (and lyrics) in TMO and an especially ill-advised DA3D video (taking the straight nature of the track as "dance" and applying some of the most rote and god-awful imagery for it). so while OWB might not nearly be as boxed in as AHDO in terms of ideas, it's certainly getting further into post-producing it like a group that belives in something being objectively great, and wants that more than making something *actually* different.

[gillenium]

OWB is perfect. You all are WACKED! :P

[pafufta816]

it does strike me that this album, as improved as it on the last one, is a bit of a U2 moment for them, so some tracks have this unecessary polish and work on them that could have benefitted from.. less of it.
not going so far as to write off bamboo. i dont know if it needs more, but to make a studio version it needs something a bit.. better. it works fine as a live jam, tho.

but dobropet is excellent.i think they were ready to do something polished, considering the way they wrote the rivverrun stuff, and the live jams. they have their minimal side, but they were probably tired of doing that thing and wanted to "polish" things for OWB.

i enjoy the album, some songs i don't find quite remarkable, but i think it was something UW really wanted to create.

[Dino3D]

Just found this topic when I ordered finally the CD single. I'm excited to get it.

[Dino3D]

The BBB CD single just arrived to me. It's incerible feel to hold it in my hands! :)
I'm not a huge fan of the remixes, but overall it's a very thick and good EP like single.