Loads of Birds

[testudo]

Anyone here it yet? Should I pray for it being a new iteration of Darc?

[patrick]

nope. but it's pretty good... ambient with some dark singing by karl, some guitar (i love how much guitar is on this albumn)

overall i really enjoy this track... i like it more than a few on the main albumn

[the mongoose]

Sounds right up my alley. Dark vocals and guitar in an ambient UW track....fuck yes please!:cool:

[stimpee]

Its got slow beats and Karl vocals and an ambient groove. I like it. Its better than Good Morning Cockerel anyway and should have been on the album in its place.

[the real stuff]

I like it, too

it fits on the disc with an odd 15 minutes to spare, but it doesn't quite fit with the rest of the sounds on OwB. still a great track, maybe we'll see it again on that upcoming EP ;)


note: this EP doesn't technically exist yet

[BrotherLovesDub]

Loads of Birds sounds great if you put it on the album as track 11 and make Best Mamgu Ever track 12. try it out!

[dubman]

can someone possibly drop a link somewhere.
i swear i'll pick it up so it wont be littering.

[dc_04]

should of called it 'loads of bitcrushed birds'

i dig it :)

- dc

[stimpee]

For those thinking of ordering from Japan, I'd recommend CDJapan. The album is 3200 Yen but the cheapest post (1-3 weeks surface mail) is only 500 Yen. Next is hmv.co.jp which is 2850 Yen with post (airmail) and postage is 1500 Yen. Then theres Amazon.co.jp which is 2850 Yen and a ridiculous 2700 Yen + 300 Yen per item, so 3000 Yen postage.

CDJapan: 3700 Yen
HMV: 4350 Yen
Amazon: 5850 Yen

[Cadevil]

For those thinking of ordering from Japan, I'd recommend CDJapan. The album is 3200 Yen but the cheapest post (1-3 weeks surface mail) is only 500 Yen. Next is hmv.co.jp which is 2850 Yen with post (airmail) and postage is 1500 Yen. Then theres Amazon.co.jp which is 2850 Yen and a ridiculous 2700 Yen + 300 Yen per item, so 3000 Yen postage.

CDJapan: 3700 Yen
HMV: 4350 Yen
Amazon: 5850 Yen
Don't forget iTunes: 1500 yen (free delivery ;) )

[TheBang]

And 1283 kbits less fidelity. ;)

[marcolphus]

I think that it's better than 'Holding the Moth' and far much better than awful 'Boy, Boy, Boy'... It should be on the album worldwide.

[stimpee]

Don't forget iTunes: 1500 yen (free delivery ;) )...and does that include the DVD?

[patrick]

wrong... holding the moth = amazing music

[stauff]

I've listened to it a few times now and I reckon it fits on the album just fine, but maybe not as the final track. I'd tend to agree with BrotherLovesDub here, make it track 11 :)

- Matthew

[the mongoose]

Just heard it and WOW ITS GREAT!!!

Hands down one of the absolute best songs on the album and it's a fucking shame it's not on most copies of the cd. There's plenty of room for it on the cd so why can't the Japanese just get their special little bonus dvd and some remixes or whatever....are they really that nuts over bonus tracks, and is it the band or the label that bends over backwards to cater to this kind of stuff?!?:confused:

Underworld - guess you figure most fans will track the rare stuff down or import the Jap copy and it's no big deal....but I say, most Japanese won't even understand the words on Loads of Bird :p so why not give them something more experimental like Glam Bucket instead.

Still a great cd without it, but my overall "B+ rating" would have been changed to an A with this track tacked on I think.:)

[chuck]

man, I thought this thread was going to be about the loads of birds attending UW concerts - and sweaty pics from the front row.

bugger.

as you were.

[crazysugarboy]

Love this track:) - it's defo got a Massive Attack vibe to it methinks

[the mongoose]

Love this track:) - it's defo got a Massive Attack vibe to it methinks

Yeah, I was thinking that big time too!:cool:

[Flywaver]

Will this be shared..........:o ;)

[stimpee]

Will this be shared..........:o ;)not here it wont. i recommend buying the japanese releaseFor those thinking of ordering from Japan, I'd recommend CDJapan. The album is 3200 Yen but the cheapest post (1-3 weeks surface mail) is only 500 Yen. Next is hmv.co.jp which is 2850 Yen with post (airmail) and postage is 1500 Yen. Then theres Amazon.co.jp which is 2850 Yen and a ridiculous 2700 Yen + 300 Yen per item, so 3000 Yen postage.

CDJapan: 3700 Yen
HMV: 4350 Yen
Amazon: 5850 Yen

[negative1]

i think it's fine that it was an extra track on the japanese,

yes, its better than some of the slower instrumental tracks,
and of course ring road/boy boy boy..etc..

but its an average track for them..

later
-1

[BufoBufo]

Nice to see bits of LOB were used in the Sunshine OST. There's elements of it playing on the R2 DVD menu.

[cacophony]

i got my hands on this track back when this thread was first posted but i didn't really listen to it much or have anything to say about it. i had too many other tracks to catch up on and obsess over, so this one got back-burnered.

in hindsight, i wish i hadn't delayed. i pulled together a playlist i like to call "music for trains" (thank you eno) and this one made the cut. suddenly i find myself listening to it 6 or 7 times a day. every time i fire up the ol' ipod it's the first thing i select. it must have been a slow burn because it's fast become one of my absolute favorite songs. it's a very polydistortion/massive attack vibe.

Hands down one of the absolute best songs on the album and it's a fucking shame it's not on most copies of the cd.

hear hear.

[potatobroth]

I think it fits nicely with the album. I have it last after Best Ever but that's probably not the best place for it.

As for ordering from Japan... what a pain in the ass that can be. Back when JAL came out, I did the whole buy-a-japanese-itunes-gift-card thing. Dis.as.ter. I managed to get the tracks onto my machine and listen to them. But suddenly one day, they were locked and I was told by my computer that I no longer have the rights to play this music and it shall remain locked. Can't burn it, copy it to the iPod, nor convert it to aiff etc.

[nosajmunson]

I love this song. It haunts me. It has a very dark feel to it.
On the movie Sunshine, a version of it repeats throughout the film. I wish the version from the movie would be released some day, but that's another thread.

With the Japanese iTunes stuff, I've had a similar problem. I also got locked out of songs I purchased. What I did was this:

In iTunes go to Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Importing.
From there I changed the "Import Using" to MP3 encoder and the "Setting" to "Higher Quality (192kbps)". You can set up the 4 checkboxes however.

I then went to my "Music" list and found the tracks that were locked. I right clicked on them and selected convert selection to MP3. Each one took about a minute to convert. When it was done, I was then able to play, burn and export the new MP3 to my iPod. I then deleted the original locked file I got from iTunes. It's convuluted, but it's a great way to use iTunes against itself to unlock the tracks you already paid for.

This may or not help, but it did work for me.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1936/itunestricknj1.png

[potatobroth]

oh great tip! thanks!

[industri_studios]

I think that re-encodes and loses some quality, sadly, but I agree - getting the music is better than not... even if it's slightly degraded.

[dubman]

i think it's fine that it was an extra track on the japanese,

yes, its better than some of the slower instrumental tracks,
and of course ring road/boy boy boy..etc..

but its an average track for them..


yeah after the excitement died down karl is actually pretty weak on this one and the whole thing sounds a bit cliche. the bitcrushing and "WAOWWAOW" is a nice effect but the strings and the rest pushed the 'cinematic' vibe of the album a bit too hard.

[mondokat]

I love this song. It haunts me. It has a very dark feel to it.
On the movie Sunshine, a version of it repeats throughout the film. I wish the version from the movie would be released some day, but that's another thread.

With the Japanese iTunes stuff, I've had a similar problem. I also got locked out of songs I purchased. What I did was this:

In iTunes go to Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Importing.
From there I changed the "Import Using" to MP3 encoder and the "Setting" to "Higher Quality (192kbps)". You can set up the 4 checkboxes however.

I then went to my "Music" list and found the tracks that were locked. I right clicked on them and selected convert selection to MP3. Each one took about a minute to convert. When it was done, I was then able to play, burn and export the new MP3 to my iPod. I then deleted the original locked file I got from iTunes. It's convuluted, but it's a great way to use iTunes against itself to unlock the tracks you already paid for.

This may or not help, but it did work for me.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1936/itunestricknj1.pngLast time I tried this, it told me it couldn't recode it because it was drm locked. Itunes really sucks sometimes.

[nosajmunson]

Last time I tried this, it told me it couldn't recode it because it was drm locked. Itunes really sucks sometimes.

I've had that happen too. Honestly, I have been able to recode/convert about 40% of the locked tracks I've tried. The other 60% I get that DRM Locked crap. Why this trick works on some "locked" tracks and not others is beyond me.

Stupid iTunes.

[TheBang]

Some tracks sold by iTunes are iTunes Plus, which lack any DRM controls, so you can transcode those. For those that are "locked", put them into a playlist, and then burn that playlist to an audio CD (click the "Burn Disc" button in the bottom right corner). Once they are on the audio CD, they are standard, unprotected CD Digital Audio, and you can rip them to any format you wish.

For those of you having trouble just playing them in iTunes, what exactly is the error you're getting? You shouldn't have trouble playing them unless you've forgotten your Apple ID and password that you purchased the tracks with. Or if you exceeded 5 computers authorized with your Apple ID. If that's the case, log into your iTunes account, by going to the iTunes Store, and pressing "Log In" or your Apple ID in the upper-right corner of the Store. On Your Account screen, it will show how many computers are authorized. If you've reached the limit (5), a button will be available to "Deauthorize All" so you can start over.

[Dirty0900]

I've just been able to download this track and i like it a lot. Imo, it coud hsve snuck on to the album!

[potatobroth]

Some tracks sold by iTunes are iTunes Plus, which lack any DRM controls, so you can transcode those. For those that are "locked", put them into a playlist, and then burn that playlist to an audio CD (click the "Burn Disc" button in the bottom right corner).

Ive tried this. Didn't work, but in all honesty that was like 3 iTunes ago. I'll try both of the tips you've all offered. Thanks.

[melegant]

Just wondering, was Loads of Birds on ITUNES then not...I have the song and I am trying to figure out HOW I got it......

nice song. recgonize pieces from Sunshine (fantastic movie) and I just got parc and that is great.

Does anyone have a list of post OWB tracks or is there a thread that has a list?
_D)
Melegant

[dubman]

at first i was a little miffed but im pretty glad it's not on the album as a regular release. it's a bit cheesy.

anyway there were a few tracks posted to underworldlive.com as fun bonuses for fans that would check that never were 'officially released'. much of it was ambient or experimental. a couple of them were decently fleshed out, some were just having a bit of fun...

FONESTRAP 1
FONESTRAP 2
FONESTRAP 3
FONESTRAP 4
FONESTRAP 5
AUTOTRADER 2
AUTOTRADER 3
AUTOTRADER 4/FONESTRAP 6
BBOYBGIRL
SHARK ARP
CALONLAN
SIMPLE PEAL 1
CAN YOU FEEL THIS BASS (actually a darren price track, but made available all the same)

but if you''re looking to itunes, then you might want to check out "art of peace: songs for tibet" compilation. it has an alternate version of "to heal" with spoken bits called "to heal and restore broken bodies"

oh and just in case you missed underworld's web-only riverrun releases, they're available at the underworldlive.com shop along with a few other goodies.

[cacophony]

it's a bit cheesy.

blasphemy!

[TheBang]

Just wondering, was Loads of Birds on ITUNES then not...I have the song and I am trying to figure out HOW I got it.....
Loads of Birds was only available on the Japan iTunes Store, or on the Japan physical CD releases.

[dubman]

blasphemy!
i was all about it when i first heard it! but the broooooding strings, the lyrics.. aaah it was just all so obvious... felt rather goofy listening to it seriously.

[gambit]

I love Loads of Birds! It's better than 95% of OWB.

[potatobroth]

I love Loads of Birds! It's better than 95% of OWB.

everything except Crocodile, BB, Ring Road, Faxed Invitation, Glam Bucket, and Mamgu

[dubman]

I love Loads of Birds! It's better than 95% of OWB.
greg-

i would have words with thee.

actually now i'm back to thinking this albums better than when i first got excited then 'realistic' about it. i've had the come down and i think i've trashed the album more than i should have in the process. boy, boy, boy isnt a good tune yet but it's familiarity makes it pretty okay, making ring road the only one that still really suffers. i like the rest of it a lot more.

more than "loads of birds" anyway. which is why im now pretty glad it's not on there.

[gambit]

Have words, then, Alan!

I used to like Crocodile, but now it sounds too bland and boring. I do like Beautiful Burnout, Holding the Moth, and Best Mamgu Ever. Boy, Boy, Boy I do kinda like, but most of this album is not something I'm going to turn to listen to very often. Loads of Birds is just deep and dark and sexy, and maybe you think it's cheesy, which I don't see, and obvious, which I don't care because it does what it set out to do and did it well. It gets me in a mood whenever I listen to it, and I can't say for much of the album.

[dubman]

well since we both powerword-ed each other all i really need to say in addition to the BB, HTM, and mamgu love is

GLAM BUCKET
FAXED INVITATION
CUDDLE BUNNY

come on these were always the best tracks...

croccodile and the rest aside from 'those two' are good at the very least, and the 'sexiness' of LoB is suuuuuuper goofy.

[gambit]

LOL.

Okay, Faxed Invitation is pretty good. Glam Bucket could've been better because I loved it live. Cuddle Bunny....bleh.

[khouri]

Glam Bucket suffers from Twist syndrome, whereby it's quite boring on the record but unbelievably amazing live. What do they have in common? Dirty guitar!

[cacophony]

i won't stand for this badmouthing of glam bucket. i'm dangerously obsessed with that track.

also, i will say this about loads of birds: it doesn't really sound like an UW track. it's distinctly different from any of their other works. every time i listen to it i'm reminded of gus gus's "remembrance" on polydistortion, but glitchier and more contemporary. same mood, though.

[dubman]

i won't stand for this badmouthing of glam bucket. i'm dangerously obsessed with that track.

it's one of the best they've done.

[potatobroth]

im obsessed with the album recording of Faxed Invite, and the live version of Glam Bucket. Mamgu has probably reached a high level in plays as well. I think OwB is quite a good album and go back to it often.

Cuddle Bunny isn't even worth mentioning. It is what it is, but its nothing that I would ever get a craving to listen to. ever.

LoB reminds me of Massive Attack.

[cacophony]

LoB reminds me of Massive Attack.

yes, good call.

[stimpee]

I like the 2005 live version of Faxed Invitation. Its got that extra added something...

...Jason Roth talking all over the beginning.

[BrotherLovesDub]

live version does rool. i think it benefits from the faster tempo. would love to hear this on an upcoming Radio Show.

[oceanic]

I like the 2005 live version of Faxed Invitation. Its got that extra added something...

...Jason Roth talking all over the beginning.

oh my!

which gig? is the bootleg kicking around? really?! - Faxed was around as early as 2005?
I need to hear this.

Faxed, for me, is the best thing on OWB, and one of the best things UW has ever done

[TheBang]

2005-11-11 Luxembourg, opening track.

[oceanic]

Thank you!

[spacejunk]

...Faxed, for me, is the best thing on OWB, and one of the best things UW has ever done

agreed

[change]

...Faxed, for me, is the best thing on OWB, and one of the best things UW has ever done
agreed

Thirded

[dudedude32]

I'm sorry, where in underworldlive.com is all this fonestrap stuff?
me want!

[TheBang]

The Phonestraps are not currently available on the website. They were posted on the website from July-Oct. 2007, but have been unavailable since then. They might make a return to the Audio section of the Archive once that is populated, but we don't know at this point.

[dudedude32]

Would anyone care to upload the fonestraps etc etc to a rapidshare or equivalent? If you did i would be most grateful. I know you can as you didn't let me down with bootleg babies.:o

[BrotherLovesDub]

if the forums are searchable those tracks have already been compiled and offered via. rapidshare or equivalent.

[ultradave]

Glam Bucket... quite boring on the record but unbelievably amazing live.

not to totally get off topic, but i partially agree with this statement. it's definitely not the greatest recorded track, but it is extremely amazing live. first time i heard this track was at the Bowl and I was floored.

as for Loads of Birds - it took me a while to appreciate it. at first ear, i didn't care too much for it - but now i'm digging the repititious drumbeat.

as for my favourite OWB track, I would have to go with either
Holding The Moth
or
Beautiful Burnout
it's a tough decision...

[galama]

From a LoB topic it turned into what are the best OWB tracks. FINE! BEST MAMGU EVER. Someone on the forum told me that Mamgu means Granma in Welsh. Put some psychology behind it and its obvious that someone's had a special connection to his grandma...perhaps she made the best(fill in the blank...a staple Welsh dish) or she knitted really nice sweaters. This track is veery carefully produced, well though off and tender and the pads are drifting and its just marvelous. I love it and nothing else compares to it. Maybe BB because it's also very emotional and deep but BME takes it all.

[mondokat]

My favorite track ever is and always has been cowgirl. I also love the way they've mixed rez into it in all the various ways that they've done through the years. It kicks my ass every time I hear it.

[TheBang]

My favorite track ever is and always has been cowgirl. I also love the way they've mixed rez into it in all the various ways that they've done through the years. It kicks my ass every time I hear it.
+1

[galama]

Don't +1 him, or it. Cowgirl doesn't count. It's not OWB and it's not LoB related :P

[dudedude32]

Would anyone mind uploading or linking me to a page where I can download all the fonestraps and such? I've tried searching the forum but to no avail.

Sorry if this is against the ToS.:(