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lowbit
09-28-2007, 07:37 AM
I confess to slight disappointment with OWB. Not because I dislike the music, but rather because I really loved most of Riverrun and was hoping that some of it would appear in real physical CD form as part of the new album.
Has the possibility of a physical release of Riverrun ever been mentioned? I would gladly shell out more than a few shekels for a two- or three-disc set containing the Riverrun suite.
potatobroth
09-28-2007, 07:38 AM
I confess to disappointment with OWB. Not because I dislike the music, but rather because I really loved most of Riverrun and was hoping that some of it would appear in real physical CD form as part of the new album.
Has the possibility of a physical release of Riverrun ever been mentioned? I would gladly shell out more than a few shekels for a two- or three-disc set containing the Riverrun suite.
This strikes me as an incredibly odd thing to be disappointed about. You already have an official released version of the tracks you love, why on earth would you want these same songs taking up a spot on the new album?
You have both, and you think that would be 'good enough' ;)
Dirty0900
09-28-2007, 07:39 AM
I confess to disappointment with OWB. Not because I dislike the music, but rather because I really loved most of Riverrun and was hoping that some of it would appear in real physical CD form as part of the new album.
Has the possibility of a physical release of Riverrun ever been mentioned? I would gladly shell out more than a few shekels for a two- or three-disc set containing the Riverrun suite.
If you look on ebay, there are promos with all three releases on. They crop up every now and then. Not sure how much it'll go for though.
lowbit
09-28-2007, 07:47 AM
This strikes me as an incredibly odd thing to be disappointed about. You already have an official released version of the tracks you love, why on earth would you want these same songs taking up a spot on the new album?A good point -- I wouldn't want to do without the tracks on the new album, and in time they of course may prove even more gratifying than Riverrun. I guess I'm greedy (as well as a bit of an audio perfectionist) -- if Riverrun had appeared in part on OWB then I would hope that any tracks that got pushed off OWB would mean that the next album would just appear all that much sooner! :)
BrotherLovesDub
09-28-2007, 07:53 AM
sounds like someone's porridge is too hot. or was it too cold?
dubman
09-28-2007, 07:54 AM
i thought i heard them once in a broadcast or interview that physical copies will eventually appear. besides, i doubt they'd let it hang there at simply 192. stuff just takes time. uwlive is set to explode with shop goodies it seems only a matter of time.
i suppose i'd be a bit ticked off seeing as how i paid a little over $9 for each one already, but i'd probably bite the bullet and pay an extra.... 30? maybe 40 at the very most. at any rate it'd be kind of a rip.
Dirty0900
09-28-2007, 08:27 AM
Peachtree is on Croc single as a b-sdie. Surely we should be pissed off there is not a fresh slab of meat to hear. Me? Not really, Riverrun was more for the hardcore fan and will sell more when more people get the new album.
King of Snake
09-28-2007, 08:49 AM
would definitely be cool to have riverrun cd's for sale trough the online shop. Then again, I don't really actually listen to cd's anymore anyway. It just get's rippped to 192k mp3's anyway. :)
holden
09-28-2007, 08:56 AM
With minimal editing and a lil mixing, all 3 RiverRuns fit on one 80 minute CD. Problem solved! ;)
I prefer higher quality mp3s as much as the next guy, but i still don't understand the complaints with the 192 kbs riverrun downloads. For me, those releases will always be special, awaiting the day they appeared on uwlive. But they are in-betweens - not the physical album. They are more experimental, as KArl mentioned in interviews.
Lx_Nen
09-28-2007, 09:08 AM
I'd love to get unmixed versions, come to think of it. RiverStops anyone?
nosajmunson
09-28-2007, 10:15 AM
I'd love to get unmixed versions, come to think of it. RiverStops anyone?
Someone else mentioned this before, but there is a Riverrun DJ Sampler CD promo out there. It has some great remixes of JAL, Play Pig, Vanilla Monkey and Peggy Sussed. 6 tracks, about 45 minutes. It's not unmixed, but pretty good remixes. Good stuff.
negative1
09-28-2007, 01:04 PM
Someone else mentioned this before, but there is a Riverrun DJ Sampler CD promo out there. It has some great remixes of JAL, Play Pig, Vanilla Monkey and Peggy Sussed. 6 tracks, about 45 minutes. It's not unmixed, but pretty good remixes. Good stuff.
you mean this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250164828104&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=015
yeah, it was up there for a while...couldn't resist...
besides, i just got them all on vinyl also..
i prefer those, for the extra tracks, and the covers/packaging..
later
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koisk
09-28-2007, 02:58 PM
I'm fine with the mp3s, although I'd be happer with FLAC. I like the way they approached digital releases with the riverrun project becuase it came with the photos and extra content that didn't make sense in the CD world - it kind of changed my perspective on digital distribution.
lowbit
09-28-2007, 04:48 PM
Aside from the sound quality, I think a significant part of the appeal of an UW physical CD release is the style and care that goes into the way it's packaged and presented. Most UW discs (even the singles) are put together in a way that makes them satisfying to hold and own, and not just for the hard core fan. They're thingular.
negative1
09-30-2007, 01:26 PM
I'm fine with the mp3s, although I'd be happer with FLAC. I like the way they approached digital releases with the riverrun project becuase it came with the photos and extra content that didn't make sense in the CD world - it kind of changed my perspective on digital distribution.
all that could have easily been placed on the cd, as an enhanced
extra...i don't think it had to be digital only. why wouldn't that make
sense?
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koisk
09-30-2007, 04:35 PM
all that could have easily been placed on the cd, as an enhanced
extra...i don't think it had to be digital only. why wouldn't that make
sense?
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Ok, true, but I hate enhanced CDs. Most of them blow. The digital thing seems more natural. A nice complete digital package where all the elements are part of the whole. Enhanced CDs (in my mind) are like an afterthought - a little extra data to supplement your experience rather than be an integral part of it. I suppose its context of delivery? I admit it would all bascially amount to the same amount of content in the end.
Let me put it this way - with the extra content in the digital release I feel satisfied in filling the hole left by not having a physical product. In the physical release the packaging is the context, where here that context (or same type of experience) shifts to the digital world.
Remember the Daft Club player? That thing was total junk.
bryantm3
09-30-2007, 07:42 PM
well, in contrast, i didn't like riverrun all that much. i felt that it was all incomplete studio tracks- none of them stood out to me at all, really. i was disappointed by them. however, from what i've heard from the new album, it is much much better in comparison- and i'm looking forward to opening the mailbox on 15 Oct.
qirex
09-30-2007, 11:10 PM
After buying it once as a digital release, if we got some sort of discount buying the physical release you can sign me up
negative1
10-01-2007, 09:08 AM
Ok, true, but I hate enhanced CDs. Most of them blow. The digital thing seems more natural. A nice complete digital package where all the elements are part of the whole. Enhanced CDs (in my mind) are like an afterthought - a little extra data to supplement your experience rather than be an integral part of it. I suppose its context of delivery? I admit it would all bascially amount to the same amount of content in the end.
Let me put it this way - with the extra content in the digital release I feel satisfied in filling the hole left by not having a physical product. In the physical release the packaging is the context, where here that context (or same type of experience) shifts to the digital world.
Remember the Daft Club player? That thing was total junk.
ok, maybe i'm dragging this out too far..
but this is tomato we're talking about here,
i really enjoyed the extras on the 'everything, everything' dvd,
and also they've done multimedia in the past:
from : http://www.lowculture.com/transmission/harvard/disco2.html
(yeah, its an old link)
a cd-rom has been released, "Anti-ROM," which covers the various multimedia productions of the group. If you have shockwave installed, proceed to this macromedia-enhanced site, www.antirom.com (http://www.antirom.com/).
i'm pretty sure if they had the time, they could have put
together something just as eloquent for it.
later
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lloyd
10-01-2007, 09:51 AM
Although I would like to have riverrun as cd(rom), I think we forget that for them it was a web based idea. Produce tracks, put them on the web to spread and get direct reactions through the boards. That's what karl tells in each and every interview. Kinda arty concept thingy or something ;)
negative1
10-04-2007, 10:40 AM
ok,
since i've been out of it for awhile now,
what was the reception of the riverrun on
vinyl series?
did it do ok?
did most people ignore it?
did a few fans get it?
i'm wondering how well those mixes were recieved?
i'm enjoying them a lot now, because i finally got
them on vinyl..
later
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big screen satellite
10-12-2007, 04:32 AM
as a post script to this thread, i wasn't sure if anyone was aware that all of the vinyl only released river run remixes are available at Beatport as digital downloads,
https://www.beatport.com/
including all three pig & dan mixes of Play Pig, if no one has these i'd suggest going over to Beatport and picking them up....
joethelion
10-12-2007, 08:34 AM
hey, -1
long time no see
but from what I recall about the RiverRun 12" -es; the 'set' was pretty 'well received'... most fans either bought them through hmv.co.jp or had to wait untill they were released in the UK
I wouldn't say that any of the tracks were massively played out... like - there wasn't a rush for a specific 'banging mix'... but you would find the "Play Pig" or the Vanilla Monkey mixes popping up in random dj sets
botkiller
10-12-2007, 11:22 AM
I'm good with them as they were - I saw them as musical sketches that the boys wanted us to all hear, and so tossed them out for a few bucks. I don't think they need to be on disc, I'd certainly consider buying it but I think that asking for them to be on disc is kind of like asking for all the many many other random jams, intro/outros and mashes to be on disc, there's really no need as it's all just more material to enjoy.
negative1
10-16-2007, 08:44 AM
i agree, that some of the tracks were definitely 'in progress' works,
but overall, including the mixes, i think these were better overall
than the current OWB...
in fact, i find myself listening to these more now..
later
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