Crocodile preview... listen to Pete Tong now... [Archive]

patrick

08-03-2007, 11:37 AM

arggg! i hate real-media and wma-streaming SO badly. i use only mac or linux computers. it is silly. if i was a british citizen and actually had grounds to be, i would be pissed... and their whoel download thing is windows only too... brilliant. they could have chosen open standards...

soo...

i'm anxiously waiting for someone to rip this and re-up it in mp3 or whatnot

P

ps. yannick, you should change your sig link.

BrotherLovesDub

08-03-2007, 11:53 AM

H U G E!!!!!!!!!!!!

fuck yeah!

BrotherLovesDub

08-03-2007, 11:55 AM

Crocodile on Tong, aka, 5 minutes in heaven.

/me closes stream

dubman

08-03-2007, 11:57 AM

what patrick said.
fucking realplayer

the mongoose

08-03-2007, 12:05 PM

Seems I'll just have to wait for a rip of the show as well.:mad::mad::(

testudo

08-03-2007, 12:11 PM

grrrr
.. i need this NOW

big screen satellite

08-03-2007, 12:28 PM

mmm...

i certainly need to hear that in better quality audio because from what i heard on my laptop i was slightly underwhelmed

its sounds sooooo much better live...

lets hope it was just my crappy laptop speakers...

one listen doesn't make a summer (or something)

BeautifulBurnout

08-03-2007, 12:29 PM

It'll be on Listen Again after the show, on the Radio 1 website as usual. I didn't get a rip of it cos I buffered out the first 30secs or so, but yeah. Massive.

Not entirely sure how I feel about the vocal effects at the moment. Very echoey, and not at all like the live performances. But having said that, I can remember feeling the same about JAL to Tokyo (or Bang the Pole, as we thought it was called) when I first heard that on Tongy, and it grew on me.

Anyway - good news. Nice to hear it out there, and in EYE-BEE-THA as well :D

sloff

08-03-2007, 12:29 PM

Damn I missed it. Stupid me taking a late lunch.
Anyone know how long it takes for the BBC to upload this weeks session into the archive? I'd love to be able to listen to this when I get home from work.

viddy

08-03-2007, 01:11 PM

anyone? anyone? new underworld now please...

sloff

08-03-2007, 01:14 PM

It seems like the new session is up, but its still labeled as last weeks.

BrotherLovesDub

08-03-2007, 01:16 PM

it was played on the hour, not sure what hour, but it was 12pm on the dot here in Seattle

sloff

08-03-2007, 01:19 PM

thanks that was what I was about to ask. Now scanning the set for the goodies.

sloff

08-03-2007, 01:27 PM

Oh its great. I got chills just like the first time I heard Two Months Off. This is going to be a very long month to wait.

Dirty0900

08-03-2007, 01:33 PM

Need a rip!

testudo

08-03-2007, 01:35 PM

the intro is incredible, VERY Terry Riley.:D

i wish pete was quiet during that part... I want to hear more of that INTRO

grady

08-03-2007, 01:37 PM

I'm flashing back to the Summer of 02 and can't help but get the chills as I'm really loving this track in all it's incarnations thus far.

Did anyone else notice what sounded like Biro the Leggy starting to playing in the background as Tong was talking?

Anyone rip it an mp3 it yet?

I would but I'm at work at the moment. sigh....

Dirty0900

08-03-2007, 01:37 PM

Last weeks ES is still up not this weeks. Eck.

sloff

08-03-2007, 01:39 PM

Seriously its up, I'm listening now. Listened to Crocodile twice.
Like I said its just labeled as last weeks still.

BrotherLovesDub

08-03-2007, 01:41 PM

edit the track and post the mp3 already! i'm dying for a second listen.

Dirty0900

08-03-2007, 01:45 PM

What time is it roughly on?

BrotherLovesDub

08-03-2007, 01:46 PM

should be appx 1hr into Tongs show. right after Chris Lake or whatever on the phone. its on the hour.

Dirty0900

08-03-2007, 01:52 PM

Starts at 1.01, as stated it is on even though the track listing is wrong.

Im listening as i type this and in the first ten seconds it sounds fucking awesome. Nice bass line which sounds so different from what has been done live. There seems to be some cut up vocals before Karls slighly distorted main ones come in.

Only heard it once but it sounds pretty solid and i can see this doing quite well on the club and commercial circut.

TheBang

08-03-2007, 01:59 PM

Here we go

http://rapidshare.com/files/46802092/Crocodile_on_Pete_Tong.mp3.html

the mongoose

08-03-2007, 02:03 PM

Here we go

http://rapidshare.com/files/46802092/Crocodile_on_Pete_Tong.mp3.html

Thank You!!!:cool:

grady

08-03-2007, 02:04 PM

thank you The Bang

TheBang

08-03-2007, 02:05 PM

Did anyone else notice what sounded like Biro the Leggy starting to playing in the background as Tong was talking?
Or Beautiful Burnout, yes. Maybe he was playing it off the album? If the album version of Crocodile really is only 6 minutes or so though, maybe we can get an extended version on the single please?

grady

08-03-2007, 02:08 PM

Or Beautiful Burnout, yes. Maybe he was playing it off the album? If the album version of Crocodile really is only 6 minutes or so though, maybe we can get an extended version on the single please?

I was wondering if Tong had the album and if there was an extended single mix.

BrotherLovesDub

08-03-2007, 02:09 PM

thanks The Bang! your services are appreciated as always.

the mongoose

08-03-2007, 02:18 PM

Sounds good, like a mix between Two Months Off and Mmmm...Skyscraper.
Can't wait for the rest of the tracks and better quality recordings etc.:cool:

BeautifulBurnout

08-03-2007, 02:27 PM

TheBang

You rock!!!! :D

Ta for this, mate.

mmm skyscraper

08-03-2007, 02:27 PM

Awesome!

Is that really you?

jOHN rODRIGUEZ

08-03-2007, 02:36 PM

Very Enoesque.

big screen satellite

08-03-2007, 02:49 PM

sure sounds better on a better system - so yeah first impressions were impaired by my laptop

the melody & breakdown elements are awesome

hope there are some kicking mixes of this coming...

now if Karl can tell me why this is called 'Crocodile' i'll be happy... ;)

BrotherLovesDub

08-03-2007, 02:50 PM

Leon

08-03-2007, 02:55 PM

Nice......

Leon

08-03-2007, 02:57 PM

HOLY SHIT this is fucking beautiful! I'm so glad they put that part in where Karl sings those sweet words in that BEAUTIFUL melody. dunno how to explain. DAMN

King of Snake

08-03-2007, 02:57 PM

i love this song, however, i've got to say.

What is the deal with all the reverb/delay on the vocals? it's a bit over done. the vocoder as done live is great, but the reverb/delay added to this version is really too much.

it's a bit much yeah. They could have taken the whole vocal down a bit imo, although it's hard to judge from a hyper-compressed radio broadcast.
I kind of miss the melodic elements that the cocoon version started with (and that ran trough the track).

btw. thanks TheBang for posting this!

Scott Warner

08-03-2007, 03:03 PM

This song is a comfy robe at Christmas time with hot chocolate.

crazysugarboy

08-03-2007, 03:10 PM

Firstly I shall add my thanks to TheBang - can you believe it but I had Tongey playing in the kitchen but was watching Dr Who, so mised it!!

I am asuming the slightly muffled/cotton wool audio is owing to the internet thingey of the file (Tongey sounds as if he has a cold) - otherwise methinks I shouldn't be too hastey to judge. If I am honest, the cocoon version is one of my fav u/w tracks - the bassey bassline, karl's deep voccoder-a-thon vocals, and the gentle snare/cymbal rythm in-fills ammount to a truly sublime track. This version, in comparison, seems a bit too busy. However, a) I will doubtless grow to love it on its own merits, and b) it maybe a single mix and therefore subtly different from the album version.

Ultimately, I trust karl, rick and darren to give us an utterly beautiful cd come October :)

BrotherLovesDub

08-03-2007, 03:24 PM

well put crazysugarboy. i am not badmouthing it. just stating my initial opinion and thoughts. i've got it on repeat here and have pretty much gotten over my distaste for the extra vocal effects. that melody that comes in at 3:50 is incredible.

dubnobasswithme

08-03-2007, 03:46 PM

hottt! i really like that bassline! thanks for the u/l, thebang.

the album can't come soon enough :D

dubman

08-03-2007, 03:48 PM

it's a wonderful groove and it makes me more excited for the new album than when i first heard two months off. the music is really impecable, like a mix between the push upstairs, dino adventure 3d, and skyscraper vibe...
but the vocals are really overtreated. i mean, it could be the bad quality, or that i should get used to it first like all new underworld songs, and that it's the right decision overall, but with AHDO, the recent riverruns, and now this, i just think it's a bad way overall and i want his voice to come out more.

then again i hated hated hated the JAL vocals and now i love them, so who knows, but i cant think of too many instances where that kind of magic can happen again and again.

potatobroth

08-03-2007, 05:25 PM

i love it.

stauff

08-03-2007, 05:49 PM

I've gotta admit I didn't really get in the grove of JAL when I first heard it at a similar compression level.. then I loved it when I heard the final riverrun version. I'm pretty sure this one will be a similar story.. I love the cocoon version already :)

Thanks for the upload thebang :)

Bargo

08-03-2007, 06:33 PM

Holy shit I love this song. I can't wait to hear it in good quality.

Thanks heaps thebang!

BufoBufo

08-03-2007, 08:42 PM

You're a diamond, Mr TheBang. What a stonker! Very carnivally feel to it; reminds me of bits of AHDO. Bring on the Bells ;D

Mike

08-03-2007, 09:29 PM

I was wondering if Tong had the album and if there was an extended single mix.

He is the kind of guy that would brag about it if he had the album :)

Postal

08-03-2007, 10:06 PM

I could swear I've heard Underworld play "Crocodile" live during one of their webcast-only video shows. Not the same as the album version, but close enough that I recognize the rhythm.

It's definitely living up to their reputation, however. Looking forward to the final album, which I'm buying unless I hear of terrible reviews.

the mongoose

08-03-2007, 10:47 PM

why this is called 'Crocodile'
If you've ever heard a baby croc before, a similar sound starts to happen in the song around 46 seconds into it. *Chirp* *Chirp* (repeat)

maybe it is a baby croc.....probably it's just a sample of a guitar chord cut short.:)

ndrwrld

08-04-2007, 01:04 AM

i do believe it was played at the cocoon gig, no ?

King of Snake

08-04-2007, 01:48 AM

yes it was

the mongoose

08-04-2007, 02:11 AM

i do believe it was played at the cocoon gig, no ?

It was a version of it featuring a slower beat, and a more "haunting" main synth part that, while cool, gave it an ackward vibe IMO. The vocals are only echoed/vocoded in the chorus, and the breakdown synth stuff is more in the background than on the studio version (and sounds a little different too).
It sounds a lot better now that it's faster, shorter, and has better effects and such. Still ain't diggin' the lyrics much however.

grady

08-04-2007, 02:22 AM

who wants to start the lyrics thread?

Jafs

08-04-2007, 02:28 AM

let's go for the first listen

testudo

08-04-2007, 03:09 AM

grady

08-04-2007, 03:27 AM

yes, i think he DEF has the full album... at the end of song you hear Beautiful Burnout (kind of cut off on the 'bang' mp3. though you can still hear it a little) OK anyone else want to beg Pete to play us some more? :D
If Tong has it that could mean that others do too. It's only a question of time before a leak is sprung....I hope.

To base this on past events after the debut of the new track on Tong's show it took a matter of two weeks or so before AHDO appeared online.

stimpee

08-04-2007, 04:08 AM

the mongoose

08-04-2007, 04:33 AM

who wants to start the lyrics

It's something like:

is that you
is that, is that real E, you...
cum between my lips
you had to gook
you're fingers pushed
and you scratch my back for real though
slow d00d, slow fast
ask for a knight to rap around us
I think the Wii will get some sweet stuff

Oh......Bee Stings, End Me! (kill me)

Oh.......Bee Stings, End Me! (kill me)

is that you
is that, is that really you
to 'ho' beneath my seat
two numb birds click
between worm touch
when you bum me down lets shoot em
rice isn't rising
remember the inside of every outside beating
ballin',
me in there
gettin' dat sweet stuff

Oh.......Bee Stings, End Me (kill me)
Oh.......Bee Stings, End Me (kill me)

*the vocoder part:
"you....don't....know....what....this....says"
"you....don't....know....what....this....says"
"you....don't....know....what....this....says"

is that you
is that, is that real E, you...
cum between my lips
you had to gook
you're fingers pushed
and you scratch my back for real though
slow d00d, slow fast
waiting for a knight to rap around us
I think the Wii will get some sweet stuff

Oh......Bee Stings, End Me

Oh.......Bee Stings, End Me (kill me)

I could be a little off.......:D

TheBang

08-04-2007, 05:02 AM

Been downloading other files today, stimpee? :)

http://download.yousendit.com/EB6D0ADC48C2B466

This link has a limit on the number of times it can be used. Please use it only if RapidShare is not working for you.

King of Snake

08-04-2007, 05:05 AM

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try this http://www.sputnikkproductions.com/Crocodile_on_Pete_Tong.mp3

btw is that opening melody that Tong is talking over a part of the track or is it the previous track fading out?

testudo

08-04-2007, 06:15 AM

i am 90% sure that the croc intro is the keyboard wash... they are the same sounds that are in part c of the song

BeautifulBurnout

08-04-2007, 06:24 AM

I could be a little off.......:D

Nah, you got it spot on, Mongoose :D

testudo

08-04-2007, 07:00 AM

After a day of reflection (or close to it) I have come to the conclusion that this is so heavily influenced by Talk Talk (spirit of eden/laughing stock era). I am mostly talking about stucture, though those who are really perceptive will see the sound influence.

I think I'd give large amounts ($,£) for UW to cover a Talk Talk track... though I know they have historically stayed away covers

thee carp dreamer

08-04-2007, 07:24 AM

it's a bit......meh.....

patrick

08-04-2007, 09:56 AM

i really like it..!!! i don't like the vocals in "jal to tokyo" very much at all because they are too compressed but i think this is not too bad... i feel that once we get a good version we will really hear his voice come out a bit more. i'm not sure it is even in a vocoder..???

besides, my fav uw track is very vocoder heavy (juanita/kiteless/tdol)

bryantm3

08-04-2007, 10:09 AM

wow- amazing. way better than cocoon. i can't wait for this album to come out.

Cadevil

08-04-2007, 11:24 AM

wow!...

Compression definitely playing a role in the sound...This will be a top club song for sure.

definitely hearing beautiful burnout at the end, too.

change

08-04-2007, 11:59 AM

yes, i think he DEF has the full album... at the end of song you hear Beautiful Burnout (kind of cut off on the 'bang' mp3. though you can still hear it a little) OK anyone else want to beg Pete to play us some more? :D

I agree. The last few seconds of the mp3 while Tong is talking are definitely the beginning of Beautiful Burnout. According to the tracklist it is the next song on the album. Very cool, I like it even though it's different from what we've all heard before. :) I hope the mellower downtempo version is released someday as well...

jOHN rODRIGUEZ

08-04-2007, 12:04 PM

I like the vocals, but not so jazzed up with the music. Not bad, just not stellar. Still looking forward to hearing the full on album. :cool:

patrick

08-04-2007, 12:24 PM

i thought the next song was actually 'all these things' the dnb song?

King of Snake

08-04-2007, 12:37 PM

i thought the next song was actually 'all these things' the dnb song?

?? Crocodile = All These Things

the mongoose

08-04-2007, 04:36 PM

Nah, you got it spot on, Mongoose :D

I strive for perfection.;)

Ufotofu

08-04-2007, 07:11 PM

This version is quite decent...it's a step above the Cocoon version, I think. The delay might be a tad over-done in the verses, but it makes Karl's "Allll theeesse thiiinnngsss" simply beautiful. Also, the synth solo after the first or second chorus is amazing! If Underworld follows the pattern of some of their previous singles, they might release an "ambient" version that is a bit more like the Cocoon version. Or, they might not.

I want this album.

bryantm3

08-04-2007, 08:41 PM

let me add something else- it's the best thing i've heard from them in 5 years of demos and live tracks. really inspiring. the cocoon version was lackluster in comparison and had me worried.

on a different note, listen to the very end of the clip, it sounds like biro the leggy fading in. could we be in for an update of this?

dan

TheBang

08-04-2007, 09:27 PM

As has been mentioned, Biro the Leggy has become Beautiful Burnout, the second track on the new album, and fairly similar to the form we heard it in at Cocoon last year.

undarrenworld

08-05-2007, 03:07 AM

I like it!

irishboy

08-05-2007, 03:52 AM

i really like it, it's mellow yet kinda bouncy - 'mellcy' perhaps haha :p (thanks again to thebang for the link)

bearbrick1

08-05-2007, 03:59 AM

I think I can safely say that this track is absolutely smokin !

patrick

08-05-2007, 04:16 AM

oops. i meant you do scribble... that is the one it sounds like after to me...

King of Snake

08-05-2007, 04:31 AM

well as far as we know, You Do Scribble is (sadly) not on the album.

sunflowereye

08-05-2007, 05:19 AM

Many thanks to The Bang! :eek: Awsome tune! Can't wait for this to be dropped at Red Rocks & Central Park! Is it vacation time yet? :D

TheBang

08-05-2007, 05:46 AM

oops. i meant you do scribble... that is the one it sounds like after to me...
You're thinking of Small Conker and a Twix, the intro to You Do Scribble. But no, it's Beautiful Burnout, not Conker.

viddy

08-05-2007, 08:28 AM

I like it; fits just what I want to hear lately from music.

Thanks for putting the mp3 up!!!

Dirty0900

08-05-2007, 09:26 AM

After listeing to it a fair bit i do like it and feel good things will come from the album when it surfaces in whatever way, though does anyone else think its a bit chilled for a first release? If you look at Push Upstairs and TMO, they seem to have a lot more energy to them. I dunno, just an opinion.

jOHN rODRIGUEZ

08-05-2007, 09:28 AM

Seems to be a rule of thumb in my world that the singles of artists during their hey day are my least favorite.

This one's growing on me.

crazysugarboy

08-05-2007, 01:27 PM

To continue from my previous posting, this is definitely growing on me:) . I am now listening to it as a unique tack rather than comparing it to the cocoon version. It conjours up visions of continual crashing waves, like the cover of System 7's sublime cd "Seventh Wave:) . Just wish it was longer than 6-ish mins

hypeless

08-05-2007, 01:59 PM

can't help myself - have the track on infinite loop...

...so I couldn't help but tack on the Boston show to my vacation.

bryantm3

08-05-2007, 02:57 PM

i wish i could hear the whole thing end to end without that bloke talking all over it. not that i don't like him- he played the song!

the mongoose

08-05-2007, 04:36 PM

Some minor complaints:

-It feels like a summer song and it's almost over....:p
-the lyrics are kinda blah
-Food A Ready and Back in the Fears whoops the shit out of this. If songs like those and Scribble are passed over for a album of stuff that sounds like this I'll be a little let down. But Cups doesn't sound like Moaner so I'm sure the first track is no indicator of how the rest of the album will flow. :)

bryantm3

08-05-2007, 08:16 PM

gambit

08-05-2007, 08:40 PM

luminary

08-05-2007, 10:07 PM

This is a great song.

Complex, rich, lots of texture, rolling groove, deep, beautiful layered vocals ... with a lingering aural taste on the sonic palette. To be enjoyed now, but will also age well

:)

King of Snake

08-06-2007, 12:13 AM

i get the idea that this one is going to be more like their art-rock album more than their straightforward prog house they've been doing the last few years. what i mean is that i think this one is going to be more arty or proggy than dancey. which i think is a good thing. you can't dance to a lot of dubnobasswithmyheadman cos of the odd beats (wasn't dark & long in some weird thing like 15/8?) and ambient tracks like tongue (when i say ambient, i mean in the true sense of the word, not the garbage music, that it conveys nature or environment).

well, apart from Tongue and River of Bass, all of Dubno is pretty much straight 4/4 rhythms, nothing too complex there really. I don't really get the art-rock angle you're describing here. Underworld's output of the past few years has been mostly quite ambient or industrial even (Riverrun series, Breaking and Entering soundtrack), while Crocodile sounds decidedly more dancey than any of that stuff.

Food A Ready and Back in the Fears whoops the shit out of this. If songs like those and Scribble are passed over for a album of stuff that sounds like this I'll be a little let down. But Cups doesn't sound like Moaner so I'm sure the first track is no indicator of how the rest of the album will flow.

Food A Ready and Back in the Fears are part of the Riverrun series so I don't see how those tracks would ever have been contenders to be on the album.

kowalski__

08-06-2007, 03:07 AM

great single.
i had a feeling that underworld had their own 12 inch mix.

also i listened this song live with rick's guitar. where guitars went ?!

there was also one more new song with guitars, darc ??

dubman

08-06-2007, 03:56 AM

Sounds great even for terrible audio quality. Yeah, the vocals sound overtreated, but a better quality will probably yield better results with that. The lyrics almost sound fairly straightforward (if that's possible for Karl) in structure if not content, so I don't know what to make of that. I can't wait to hear the entire album though. It needs to be out sooner than October.

(So You Do Scribble isn't on the album either?)
no and thank god for that.
i never understood the fuss about Scribble. it's like the most stressful live acrobatics that more than not falls on its face because it hiccups too much and never becomes coherent. when it works it's beautiful, but i've only heard that once or twice. i can't imagine a studio version being release-worthy at all.

stauff

08-06-2007, 04:31 AM

no and thank god for that.
i never understood the fuss about Scribble. it's like the most stressful live acrobatics that more than not falls on its face because it hiccups too much and never becomes coherent. when it works it's beautiful, but i've only heard that once or twice. i can't imagine a studio version being release-worthy at all.
I am absolutely in love with the way it sounded in Tokyo, but for some reason I can't imagine it ever working on a CD :(

holden

08-06-2007, 10:20 AM

I was already excited for Oblivion With Bells...now that the lead single is almost here, i'm getting jumpy!

The beginning percussion is very reminiscent of TMO and much of AHDO, the shaker sound...the compression kills the details, though, so i'm not worried...this will undoubtedly rock in the clubs!

Love the growly bassline...classic UW!

The reverb doesn't bother me...gives it a LOT of atmosphere, and Karl's singling is lovely! The vocoded bit ~4:30 is indecipherable, but what else is new? :p JAL to Tokyo was a lot more difficult to understand throughout.

Personally, i like this better on first blush than TMO...there's just a lot more going on in Crocodile. And, i like that it apparently mixes into Beautiful Burnout...maybe the album will feature more continuous mixes (think the first half of the Chems' "Dig Your Own Hole" or "Puppy" by Fluke).

i agree with what was written above: bring on those bells!

hypeless

08-06-2007, 11:37 AM

man, listening to this song reminds me so much of the fall when TMO came out - and that was just such a happy time for me. i think with this record this fall, it's gonna be a most excellent year. i can hear it in the wind.

also, i just wanted to let everyone know that i'm gonna listen to crocodile on infinite repeat all day at work today.

that is all.

the fall seems so far away...

King of Snake

08-06-2007, 11:47 AM

there's a pretty good quality recording of Tong's show over here (http://www.newmixes.com/pete_tong-the_essential_selection_in_ibiza-sat-08-03-2007.html)
I extracted Crocodile using cue splitter. Download here (http://www.sputnikkproductions.com/Underworld-Crocodile.mp3)
This version is still pretty compressed, but better than the one posted before.

Flywaver

08-06-2007, 11:47 AM

Flywaver

08-06-2007, 11:52 AM

I am getting Married at the Weekend and i have to say many thanks for the perfect Wedding Present Underworld!!! ;) :D
Still wanted you to perform at the reception though. Any late flights to Kaunas going!?

DaddyAdv

08-06-2007, 11:57 AM

I've listened to the song a couple of times this morning.

It kept spinning in my head the whole day. R&K doing magic again :)

BeautifulBurnout

08-06-2007, 12:08 PM

Thanks KoS!

And congrats to you and your Good Lady, Flywaver! :D

crazysugarboy

08-06-2007, 01:22 PM

Thanks KoS!

And congrats to you and your Good Lady, Flywaver! :D

Many thanks also King of Snake:) And what a romantic tableux Flywaver has created - getting married the very same w/e that the utterly beautiful crocodile is premiered.

Mike

08-06-2007, 01:54 PM

Notice how the tracklist shows the record label as JBO? I thought they were using their own label now??

mmm skyscraper

08-06-2007, 03:36 PM

Very Enoesque.

Some of the effects remind me of "Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On)" from Remain in Light by The Talking Heads.

jOHN rODRIGUEZ

08-06-2007, 04:15 PM

I have to give that a listen.

I still hear Eno by a long shot.

Oh, I get it, you are being manipulated and don't even know it. When the realization comes around, keep in mind you are not alone. ;)

the mongoose

08-06-2007, 06:21 PM

Food A Ready and Back in the Fears are part of the Riverrun series so I don't see how those tracks would ever have been contenders to be on the album.
Biro the Leggy (B. Burnout) came before RiverRun as well but it's reworked to be on the album. Quality songs like 8 ball and Back in the Fears seem to usually get the backburner to the Ibiza "famous djs will play this!!!!" stuff (2 month off, crocodile) when it comes time to pick album tracks and most importantly singles.

Guess what I'm trying to say is, some of the better production work I've heard from these guys will only see the light of day as a crappy 192kbps mp3 and you can almost listen to those songs and tell they took longer to make than Crocodile would have. Why waste more energy on something that will be b-sided than the actual album tracks?

I think that the rest of the album will no doubt have songs that are in the same vein as the trippy RiverRun stuff and maybe after hearing those, I'll go, "now I see why these were picked over Fears, etc" but right now I'm thinking....
"why didn't they just rework Fears into an eight minute epic instead of making a direct to video sequel to Two Months Off's shaker drums.":p

btw....I hated all four albums when I first heard them. Ha.

Jason Roth

08-06-2007, 06:38 PM

Crocodile sounds decidedly more dancey than any of that stuff.

good - that's the point

King of Snake

08-07-2007, 12:11 AM

Biro the Leggy (B. Burnout) came before RiverRun as well but it's reworked to be on the album.

Biro was never released as such, unlike the Riverrun tracks which were proper releases (albeit in mp3 only)

Quality songs like 8 ball and Back in the Fears seem to usually get the backburner to the Ibiza "famous djs will play this!!!!" stuff (2 month off, crocodile) when it comes time to pick album tracks and most importantly singles.

Well, what's the point of releasing a single if not for DJ's to play it? It seems obvious that the most DJ-friendly tracks would be picked to be singles. Don't get me wrong though, I love 8-Ball and Back in the Fears is one of my favourite Riverrun tracks, and would definitely not have misstood on a proper Underworld album. It's just not single material.

Guess what I'm trying to say is, some of the better production work I've heard from these guys will only see the light of day as a crappy 192kbps mp3 and you can almost listen to those songs and tell they took longer to make than Crocodile would have. Why waste more energy on something that will be b-sided than the actual album tracks?

well you're entitled to that opinion of course, but I respectfully disagree.
There's no way for you to tell how much time they spent on something, but obviously Crocodile has been worked on for a long time as well, since we heard it first in october last year.

I think that the rest of the album will no doubt have songs that are in the same vein as the trippy RiverRun stuff and maybe after hearing those, I'll go, "now I see why these were picked over Fears, etc" but right now I'm thinking....
"why didn't they just rework Fears into an eight minute epic instead of making a direct to video sequel to Two Months Off's shaker drums.":p

Well, uw's albums have always been a mix between dancefloor singles and more ambient and experimental work so I'd say it's a very safe bet that it's gonna be like that again.
Still can't see why you would want another version of Back in the Fears on the album though...

BeautifulBurnout

08-07-2007, 01:24 AM

... but obviously Crocodile has been worked on for a long time as well, since we heard it first in october last year.

Hello! Mrs Pedant here. We actually first heard this track as the opening to the Zurich gig in 2005.

So, yes, it has been in the works for a long time. :)

King of Snake

08-07-2007, 01:45 AM

Hello! Mrs Pedant here. We actually first heard this track as the opening to the Zurich gig in 2005.

So, yes, it has been in the works for a long time. :)

ha, didn't even know that :)

grady

08-07-2007, 09:57 AM

I wonder how long before the verison from the Zurich show will be added to the archive at underworldlive now that the song is somewhat official out there.

I hope soon, or at least with the next update. It will be nice to eventually replace that audience recording I have.

bryantm3

08-07-2007, 10:18 AM

Guess what I'm trying to say is, some of the better production work I've heard from these guys will only see the light of day as a crappy 192kbps mp3 and you can almost listen to those songs and tell they took longer to make than Crocodile would have. Why waste more energy on something that will be b-sided than the actual album tracks?

i think peter gabriel, when he was introducing 'sky blue' on his most recent concert DVD, he was talking about some songs just seem to fall into your lap and they seem like the best thing you've ever written, and then other songs, you'll get a whim one day and record a little bit, and you end up tweaking it for years, and then it's finally finished. i would guess that's the story behind 'crocodile' and 'beautiful burnout'. the first version i heard of biro the leggy was very rough, not even B side material, although i could hear the idea there.
this album version will probably be completely different from what we originally heard 5 years ago- and it will be loads better. i have confidence in what they've put on the album and what they've left off. i know this new album will be great and we'll all appreciate it more once it comes out.

the real stuff

08-07-2007, 11:16 AM

I listened 3 times last night, took a nice (LONG) sleep, and listened again. I'm absolutely in love with the beat now -- the beginning is catchy, groovy.

I'm still getting used to the vocals, which will probably sound better uncompressed on a CD. Underworld is not meant to be heard at this quality! So much fine detail is completely inaudible in this low-bitrate version.

This sounds different from previous Underworld sounds, which is exciting. Their albums are all distinct and I'm confident Oblivion will be, too.

so excited :D

sanakan

08-07-2007, 11:27 AM

i still think the zurich/cocoon version is somehow better than the "new" one from the album

grady

08-07-2007, 04:08 PM

i still think the zurich/cocoon version is somehow better than the "new" one from the album

I think my liking of the zurich comes from a longer exposure time to the track in that form. After a couple months I'm sure this new version will begin to grow on me.

mmm skyscraper

08-07-2007, 09:11 PM

Notice how the tracklist shows the record label as JBO? I thought they were using their own label now??

Different

http://www.differentrecordings.com/

Flywaver

08-14-2007, 10:36 AM

Thanks KoS!

And congrats to you and your Good Lady, Flywaver! :D

Cheers BB! We had a great Wedding. It's a two day experience in Lithuania. The Weather been superb!
Just had the weirdest thing happen. Listening to Kittens live off BigScreenSatelites mix in my Wife's parents garden on MP3. Happily eating smoked fish and drinking a local beer i look down at my feet and two kittens and there Mother looking up at me wanting my fish! Didn't know where they came from. It's a good job i wasn't listening to Crocodile! LOL

crazysugarboy

08-14-2007, 01:04 PM

Cheers BB! We had a great Wedding. It's a two day experience in Lithuania. The Weather been superb!
Just had the weirdest thing happen. Listening to Kittens live off BigScreenSatelites mix in my Wife's parents garden on MP3. Happily eating smoked fish and drinking a local beer i look down at my feet and two kittens and there Mother looking up at me wanting my fish! Didn't know where they came from. It's a good job i wasn't listening to Crocodile! LOL

That is SOOO spooky flywaver. I will never forget 10 years ago when I asked out a random guy from my local waitrose. The same day, I bought a random cd by Bjork - on the initial listen, the track that really stood out was track 09 - gr8 rythm, bass, and melody. A few days later, the guy still hadn't got back to me and I was totally devasted. At this point, to cheer myself up, I read the lyrics of track 09 from the cd insert - "I miss you, but I haven't met you yet"