1-18-08

[Winston]

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/11808/large.html



seems to be cool,altough i don't understand why releasing this trailer 6 months before release date

[grady]

The trailer is intriguing, but I have no interest in viral web games that really do nothing to enhance my enjoyment of said film. Just show me the trailer, a poster, and the film.

[Scott Warner]

I have a feeling the date is bullshit coz Jan is when movie studios historically release their crappiest films. OR, perhaps they already know this film is crap!

[GforGroove]

i thought was the trailer of Rescue Dawn for some reason..
and ugh.. what a bad taste for starters with this trailer!..

[cured]

In JJ Abrams I trust. I think it'll be a good one.

[Malt Refund]

JJ is just producing it though.. not directing or writing it. Tarentino produces some god awful shitty films.

So, it could still be very bad. Releasing the trailer without a name is just tacky as all hell. Drew Goddard is writing it and he's a big time Buffy/Angel writer so I'm comfortable with that.

[Tom]

Rumors circulating that it's going to be set within Lovecraft mythos, which could fucking rule.

[grady]

I have a feeling the date is bullshit coz Jan is when movie studios historically release their crappiest films. OR, perhaps they already know this film is crap!
Two good points, both the bad release date and the film being crap. When I saw this in the theater proper before Transformers my friend with me leaned over and whispered similar sediments. Who releases a film in January, the start of the winter dumping ground of write offs for studios that lasts until mid April. Granted there are exceptions each year like Fincher's Zodiac this past March.

[viddy]

Best teaser I've seen in a while, I just didn't expect it to turn out like that in the end. Cool.

[Winston]

indeed, the head of the statue of liberty that drops on the street, kinda irony
we'll see
anyway, it hits theaters here probabley in february or march

example, still waiting on pathfinder here

[luminary]

hmmmm ... interesting

after a little digging I came across the commemt on a blog:

"14. Okay, folks. Listen up! If you listen carefully to the trailer you hear somebody in the crowd yell something like "Look, its a lion, its huge!" A lion? AND you know there was an allusion to Japan at the party. AND you know that it was the last preview RIGHT BEFORE Transformers began. Lion? Japan? Transformers related? Hello! VOLTRON!!!!
Posted at 9:41AM (http://www.cinematical.com/2007/06/30/j-j-abrams-and-the-cloverfield-debate/#c5784885) on Jul 4th 2007 by VinDogg"

http://www.cinematical.com/2007/06/30/j-j-abrams-and-the-cloverfield-debate/

VOLTRON!

:D

[Sean]

hmmmm ... interesting

after a little digging I came across the commemt on a blog:

"14. Okay, folks. Listen up! If you listen carefully to the trailer you hear somebody in the crowd yell something like "Look, its a lion, its huge!" A lion? AND you know there was an allusion to Japan at the party. AND you know that it was the last preview RIGHT BEFORE Transformers began. Lion? Japan? Transformers related? Hello! VOLTRON!!!!
Posted at 9:41AM (http://www.cinematical.com/2007/06/30/j-j-abrams-and-the-cloverfield-debate/#c5784885) on Jul 4th 2007 by VinDogg"

http://www.cinematical.com/2007/06/30/j-j-abrams-and-the-cloverfield-debate/

VOLTRON!

:DThe line was "I saw it, it's alive, it's huge". It jumped out at me because it was delivered so horribly.

[mkb]

hmmmm ... interesting

after a little digging I came across the commemt on a blog:

"14. Okay, folks. Listen up! If you listen carefully to the trailer you hear somebody in the crowd yell something like "Look, its a lion, its huge!" A lion? AND you know there was an allusion to Japan at the party. AND you know that it was the last preview RIGHT BEFORE Transformers began. Lion? Japan? Transformers related? Hello! VOLTRON!!!!
Posted at 9:41AM (http://www.cinematical.com/2007/06/30/j-j-abrams-and-the-cloverfield-debate/#c5784885) on Jul 4th 2007 by VinDogg"

http://www.cinematical.com/2007/06/30/j-j-abrams-and-the-cloverfield-debate/

VOLTRON!

:D

Different movie, that is (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472429/)

[GreenPea]

Rumors circulating that it's going to be set within Lovecraft mythos, which could fucking rule.
A Lovecraftian story if not done right could be really really really fucking bad. I've heard this rumor too though.

[Malt Refund]

Why would Voltron be chucking a Statue of Liberty head?

I also heard 'It's a lion!' when I saw it in theaters.

[the mongoose]

Seems the title will be "Cloverfield" and the trailer will debut in front of Beowulf. Here's a description of what to expect in the 2 minutes of footage:

Click (http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12367)

[Stephen]

A Lovecraftian story if not done right could be really really really fucking bad.
Yeah, maybe, But I'm not sure how it should be 'done right'. Lovecraft's literature thrived on what were almost abstract descriptions of his monsters, which gave (at least me) more of a feel for the being rather than a clear visual reprentation.

Basically, if they show any of Lovecraft's creations/ideas, they're almost bound to ruin it.

For what it's worth, I thought that trailer looked pretty cool though.

[m.g.]

Title will also be "06-02-08" apparently, which is also the release date in France & Belgium (which a good release date here...)

click (http://imdb.com/title/tt1060277/)

[GreenPea]

Basically, if they show any of Lovecraft's creations/ideas, they're almost bound to ruin it.


That is pretty much my point. Honestly interpreting the Lovecraftian monsters literally would make then look quite silly, triagle shaped aliens, gods with octopus heads, crabmen...But what Lovecraft tried to really do with those descriptions was just to emphasize the alieness of these beings, and as there are no human words capable to describe them they are compared to familiar beings..

But anyway my favorite Lovecraft stories are not even the Cuthulu mythos ones but those like Dreams at the Witchhouse or the Shadow over Insmouth, in which normal humans slowly through the story start playing with the occult opening a world of madness that ultimately destroys them....

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

I used to love Krafties images until I found he was a racist fuck wit.

[GreenPea]

I used to love Krafties images until I found he was a racist fuck wit.
Not to defend him, but a lot of the people on his time were racist (Jack London i think?) Some of his stories are fucking awful when this aspect comes into play but in most cases it doesn't. I find Tolkien literature more racist than Lovecraft...

[b.miller]

yeah I was a big Lovecraft fan at a formitive age so I still hold out hope for a decent Mythose movie (what I picture is more of a period detective story with aspects of the Mythos at the heart of a mystery, not tentacled monsters running around killing people). To my knowledge, his racism wasn't terribly out of place back in his day and his location. New England has always been very stodgy and wary of outsiders (even today) and in the mass immigration of the 20s and 30s, I can kind of see how someone in his closed circly of life would see anything new as a threat. Not to say it's the right way to think, but my hunch is that the culture was much more nationalistic back then in most places not just America.

What I find more interesting than his racism is his lack of any vice. From what I've read, he never drank or smoked opium or any of it. It's pretty damn hard to believe that given much of what he wrote.

In my opinion, a successful Lovecraft movie would be much like the man himself: straight-laced and proper on the exterior, dark and wet and unspeakable on the interior.

[GreenPea]

What I find more interesting than his racism is his lack of any vice. From what I've read, he never drank or smoked opium or any of it. It's pretty damn hard to believe that given much of what he wrote.



Actually it makes a lot of sense to me, more than being straigth edge or whatever he was more than anything a loner and very conservative, someone that seems unconcerned with daily life and its pleasures or any sort of hedonism. Many of his main characters are loner antiquarians or people self absorved with esoteric affairs. I feel only a person like Lovecraft could have come up with this kind of stuff. His creations were a product of his social detachment and akwardness rather than drugs...

[b.miller]

true, greenpea.

I know this isn't Cloverfield but since we're all talking about Lovecraft anyway I want to mention that THE MIST is very lovecraftian and there's one moment near the end that really satisfies that vision for me. It's worth checking out.

[Scott Warner]

This will definitely be interesting!

Like I mentioned a while ago, everything I know about marketing movies suggests that this is a stinker that will be dead on arrival. But, ya never know... maybe the studio is trying something a little different (not likely based on current trends!)

[GreenPea]

I just found this clip of Neil Gaiman talking about Lovecraft in which he discuss some of the same topics on this thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqx7AGcxOO0

[grady]

I'm bit late coming into the conversation of Lovecraft, as well as reading Lovecraft, but the whole Cloverfield/1-18-08 doesn't and has never really sat well with me. Maybe it's my hesitation towards the games(see viral), but also enjoying the Lovecraft film festival that has been going on here in Portland for more than a few years now.

link (http://www.hplfilmfestival.com/)

This year there was a film apltly titled Cthulhu that delved into the mythos. The film wasn't too shabby and quite unsettling. Ultimately, I feel that this film will most likely be more effective.

I'd recommend those interested in Lovecraft to check out this film.

link (http://cthulhuthemovie.com/)

(And, yes, that is Tori Spelling in the film too, but she is quite bearable.)

[Winston]

trailer out on apple.com/trailers, looks cool