Darc

[testudo]

This is an appreciation thread. I Luv it SOOO much.

Seems as if the title is absolutely "Darc"... the archive has been updated.

oh yeah and there is a clip of this song in the ps2 tomato title, wordimagesoundplay (released 17 March 2004)
Which means this baby has been sitting around for quite some time... I am DYING to hear the final version.

[Leon]

Darc, Shake That Higher, All The Things In Me, Globe, 5 Ft Five...


They should all be on the album in some way... They should put All The Things In Me on the album just like it was played at Cocoon.

I love All The Things.

[grady]

I've been listening to this on a pretty constant loop today at work.

I'm now torn between my liking of this track and All These Things as my new favorite live tracks.

Though All These Things from the Zurich show in 05 has some wonderful bits that are lacking in the Cocoon performance.

[crazysugarboy]

I totally agree with leon - all these things is sooooo beautiful:)

[patrick]

can someone tell me where to find the cocoon gig? is there a link here (aka freely available, ccause it was kinda shared for free wasn't it?) or do i have to go to rtsr?

[holden]

patrick, check yer PM.

Back on target, this track is way too uplifting in melody to be known as "darc". Though the lyrics are definitely a bit sinister
From the loopy lil analog harmony that kicks it off to the guitar chords and solo halfway through...it feels very finished. So, yeah, count this along with Globe, You Do Scribble and maybe All These Things and Always Loved a Film as ready for, no, needing studio release!:D

I like the lyric "waiting for winter, dancing for rain" as a possible title.

[dubman]

patrick, check yer PM.

Back on target, this track is way too uplifting in melody to be known as "darc". Though the lyrics are definitely a bit sinister

I like the lyric "waiting for winter, dancing for rain" as a possible title.
:confused:

[holden]

:confused:

i'm not crazy...those words are spoken near the end of the track! Really!
Has anyone tried to make out all the lyrics? It's not quite an upper, is it?

[change]

i'm not crazy...those words are spoken near the end of the track! Really!
Has anyone tried to make out all the lyrics? It's not quite an upper, is it?
I gave the lyrics a good listen when i first got the set, and yeah they aren't very chipper, but they are fitting. This is a really great song. To me, this seems to say a bit more about the direction of UW in that they are much more 'songs' than they've written in a while. I love all of their stuff but these remind me more of a very mature Dubno sound than most releases since then. :)

Am I the only one who is somewhat annoyed by "Shake that Higher"? Is it a Price piece?

I don't mean that to be dicouraging.

[Dirty0900]

Sorry, im not digging this one. May have to wait for some kind of studio release to get an opinion.

*Avoids bricks*

[potatobroth]

Sorry, im not digging this one. May have to wait for some kind of studio release to get an opinion.

*Avoids bricks*

awww. this track is just what i was looking for when i first heard it a year ago (crappy recording.) i also like how it builds into 5ft5 and then Juanita. a very nice trio of songs.

[dubman]

big fan of this one, been on repeat for awhile.
speaking of being in the minority, they don't seem to have the lenny penne/you do scribble thing quite down. i know it's a favorite around here but it's always just this side of annoying, like it hiccups just before it gets into a good groove.

[testudo]

Lenne Penne is the worst track ever by UW, IMHO... though the rain sample does go nicely into Small Conker and a Twix.

[gaborez]

mmm i like this :)

[gaborez]

anyone remember the lux gig? is this the track they opened with there?
stimpee will know?
it's a really nice groove to get you movin :cool:

[TheBang]

nope, different song at Lux

[Dirty0900]

From my vague memories of Global Gathering and its shite sound system, im sure UW did something else which hasn't been heard via bootleg etc. Though i could be wrong as it was over a year ago!

Matt, Rog? You were there somewhere weren't you?

[stimpee]

anyone remember the lux gig? is this the track they opened with there?
stimpee will know?
it's a really nice groove to get you movin :cool:that was another new one. until now, the only place to hear this tune was the bootleg of the amsterdam show complete with wailing "ai-ai-ai-ai!" banshee.

[big screen satellite]

having listened to this a few times now, i've come to the conclusion that its like a real song, rather than the usual abstract lyrics Karl spouts (nothing wrong with those, mind).


i could certainly see this appearing on the forthcoming (?) album...


to me the lyrics are in the same vein as those Underworld used to write in the 1980's(!) even if the beat is groovier than the 80's sound, the vibe of the lyrics seem to be more song based, imo...

and i like it

:)

[Dirty0900]

Who even knows if there just doing new live tracks and then never seeing the light of day. Raidoheads last tour has given at least an albums worth of new stuff but i doubt it'll all come off......

[Leon]

having listened to this a few times now, i've come to the conclusion that its like a real song, rather than the usual abstract lyrics Karl spouts (nothing wrong with those, mind).


i could certainly see this appearing on the forthcoming (?) album...


to me the lyrics are in the same vein as those Underworld used to write in the 1980's(!) even if the beat is groovier than the 80's sound, the vibe of the lyrics seem to be more song based, imo...

and i like it

:)

Yeah when you listen to All These Things and Darc for example, the singing is really melodic and it's beautiful!

[holden]

big fan of this one, been on repeat for awhile.
speaking of being in the minority, they don't seem to have the lenny penne/you do scribble thing quite down. i know it's a favorite around here but it's always just this side of annoying, like it hiccups just before it gets into a good groove.

I hear what you mean, i think. Are you saying that the short quiet part, Small Conker and a Twix is a distaction between the two beat-heavy tracks? For me, the blast of drums as You Do Scribble kicks in is a great hiccup! But yes, i agree that YDS has some trouble settling out of the breakbeat and into the twinkly synth groove.

[potatobroth]

I'm completely lost on the 'hiccup' theory. I'm not sure he is calling Small Conker... the hiccup. I think he is calling the off-beats or stumbling beats before the downbeat the hiccup. Oddly enough, when I hear Lenne Penne (which I like quite a bit more now than I did back 'then') it somehow triggers thoughts of Radiohead's Hail to the Thief. It comes off, to me, as the least Underworld-sounding tune of their newest tracks. You Do Scribble on the other hand I have no problem discerning as an Underworld track - just with more of a non-typical Underworld beat.

[holden]

Okay, given the love professed for this track, Darc, i had a go at transcribing the lyrics...but they need your help!
Here's what i got (uncertainties in parentheses):

I've seen the animal, the animal is waiting, under a full moon, of shiny faces.
Down by the river, two dogs attack each other. A woman is screaming at a boy in a baseball cap.
Angel boy, in pristine white, comes running. Here comes the gang, having fun,
Big brown dog, let loose. Big man cuts between, points the way, full moon watching, red steel with rubber,
you want me? Animal is waiting.

With a (......... glass in her hand)
(inky inky finger there's more feel riding here)
From the east end of London, past the M25
How many of us will get out here alive?

Wipe the salt from my skin, take the pressure from my head
(I come) from the station, gonna watch you slide instead
Two eyes on the wristband, one pair of battered ( beads?)
Is this perfection? Is it time for us to leave?

( ? ) from the corners of your door
Pulls me down and made me clean, i wanna get some more
Numbers on your collarbone, will you be my sun?
Whip it out and ( ? )

Cruel and tender, magic degrees of truth,
Like a spider on my skin, like the way you slip away from me
Wave something ( ) is burning ( )
Waiting for winter, dancing for rain, my temptation, in pink and gold... (start of 5ft 5)
Orbits me, and i, at the center of eye,
and crystal water running straight to the sea of release
i see eye looking back at me
freshly squeezed and funky...

[Leon]

Okay, given the love professed for this track, Darc, i had a go at transcribing the lyrics...but they need your help!
Here's what i got (uncertainties in parentheses):

I've seen the animal, the animal is waiting, under a full moon, of shiny faces.
Down by the river, two dogs attack each other. A woman is screaming at a boy in a baseball cap.
Angel boy, in pristine white, comes running. Here comes the gang, having fun,
Big brown dog, let loose. Big man cuts between, points the way, full moon watching, red steel with rubber,
you want me? Animal is waiting.

With a (......... glass in her hand)
(inky inky finger there's more feel riding here)
From the east end of London, past the M25
How many of us will get out here alive?

Wipe the salt from my skin, take the pressure from my head
(I come) from the station, gonna watch you slide instead
Two eyes on the wristband, one pair of battered ( beads?)
Is this perfection? Is it time for us to leave?

( ? ) from the corners of your door
Pulls me down and made me clean, i wanna get some more
Numbers on your collarbone, will you be my sun?
Whip it out and ( ? )

Cruel and tender, magic degrees of truth,
Like a spider on my skin, like the way you slip away from me
Wave something ( ) is burning ( )
Waiting for winter, dancing for rain, my temptation, in pink and gold... (start of 5ft 5)
Orbits me, and i, at the center of eye,
and crystal water running straight to the sea of release
i see eye looking back at me
freshly squeezed and funky...

I think it's

"Is this perfection? Is it time for us to be?"

and

"It's a beauty pattern, from the corners of your door"

[irishboy]

.... i also like how it builds into 5ft5 and then Juanita. a very nice trio of songs.

i totally agree - a lovely little trio that work really well together!

[dubman]

I think he is calling the off-beats or stumbling beats [s]before (after) the downbeat (SC+T) the hiccup.
i only heard them nail it down perfectly in one version out of 6 (serbia/montenegro festival), and it was pretty good in sofia, but they routinely abuse the stop and start either from the get-go or as it climaxes so that it just gets awkward instead of being a really deft maneuver to build some great momentum

it ends up reminding me of that game where someone puts their hands on top of yours and you're supposed to slap it before they draw back. it's like playing with someone who's entirely too jumpy.

[Geo]

I think it's

"Is this perfection? Is it time for us to be?"



I like to think it's:

"Is this perfection? Is it time for us to meet?"


This is fun :p

Darc is so great...
As long as they don't bring Oich oich into their live sets again,
Darc makes an excellent replacement for that heavenly track!

[testudo]

check my sig, actually in the bootleg released quite some time ago you could hear the lyric, "is it time for us to meet" very easily

[BeautifulBurnout]

Testudo!

Oh ye of little memory. ;) You remember posting this thread (http://www.dirty.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3117) a while back? Is it the same choon after all?

[joethelion]

I just wish someone would be willing to rip WISP for all of us who don't have a PS2 or those who have one, but can't play Japanese video games

[testudo]

nope i remember, i didn't think anyone else would so...
;)

[BeautifulBurnout]

Of course, we mustn't forget to thank Geo for the first available version of this. If it hadn't been for his l33t recording skill3z at HMH, this would have been the first hearing of this choon.

Props, Geo. :)

[testudo]

Yes, much respect to GEO! ;)

[stimpee]

Of course, we mustn't forget to thank Geo for the first available version of this. If it hadn't been for his l33t recording skill3z at HMH, this would have been the first hearing of this choon.

Props, Geo. :)and also props to me and King Of Snake for working on the resulting audio and making it listenable and to yan for making the cover :) but without Geo's huge belgian balls to dare to record it in the HMH (notorious door security) it wouldnt have been. true dat.

[Geo]

Yup, I got my minidiscrecorder -covered in my wallet- into the venue, eventhough for like two seconds a security guard had it in his hands :D

You're welcome btw ;)

And thx indeed to Stimpee and King Of Snake for getting rid of the AYAYAYAYAYAAA!

[crazysugarboy]

Can someone please tell me what HMH and WISP stand for??

[BeautifulBurnout]

Heineken Music Hall (venue in Amsterdam)
WordImageSoundPlay (Tomato/UW project for Playstation, I think?)

[stimpee]

WordImageSoundPlay (Tomato/UW project for Playstation 2)

[holden]

Can we get a confirm (Karl?) if this track is really named "Darc"? Or is it sort of a placeholder name for a work-in-progress?

Nothing wrong with Darc, but when there are other songs with the word "dark" in their title, it could generate confusion w/
Dark and Long
Dark Train
Dark Hard
:confused:

[joethelion]

WordImageSoundPlay (Tomato/UW project for Playstation 2)

and isn't it specifically for the Japanese PS2

[stimpee]

I thought it was just released in Japan but it does run on other Playstation 2s.

[joethelion]

I thought it was just released in Japan but it does run on other Playstation 2s.

well - I'm not a huge gamer... but from what I understand, you need to have a mod chip (or something to that effect) so that you can play Japanese video games

unless - PS2 is the exception to the rule. A friend of mine was/is huge into that "scene" and he had to do that with like, all of his various game platforms

what's funny, is that he'll spend hours tweaking consoles to play different stuff, and download new games, but doesn't understand my 'obsession' with music (getting mixsets, d/l new tracks, etc etc)

[big screen satellite]

Can we get a confirm (Karl?) if this track is really named "Darc"? Or is it sort of a placeholder name for a work-in-progress?

Nothing wrong with Darc, but when there are other songs with the word "dark" in their title, it could generate confusion w/
Dark and Long
Dark Train
Dark Hard
:confused:

& The Darcness :p

[patrick]

maybe it is an acronym?

D.A.R.C?

i thought a bit, but coulnd't come up with anything worthwhile

[crazysugarboy]

Many thanks beautifulburnout and stimpee for the info:)

[BeautifulBurnout]

maybe it is an acronym?

D.A.R.C?

i thought a bit, but coulnd't come up with anything worthwhile

How about Down At Rick's Castle? :D

[patrick]

damn. that's pretty good

better than mine: Does art require colour?

hahahah, SO SO pathetic. my brain is dumb

[testudo]

wisp: can be played only on a japanese ps2 (and maybe a japanese ps3)...

though... if you are really smart, there is a way around this; ;)


and yes, i was the first to mention that this track (darc) was in wisp... though it is a
very small clip (roughly 5-10 seconds) and it is not so easy to get to...

[mmm skyscraper]

and yes, i was the first to mention that this track (darc) was in wisp... though it is a
very small clip (roughly 5-10 seconds) and it is not so easy to get to...

I also mentioned it here (although at the time I didn't know it was in WISP.)

http://www.dirty.org/forums/showpost.php?p=24337&postcount=43

other track titles from WISP(?):

"P"
Bullet
Bullet Lullaby
Bullet Train To Kyoto
Duty Paid
Flower Prayer Section 2
Gallery Pearl
Girl Poem
Horse Snake Rabbit Ladder
Music Box
Ocean
Phonology Audio
Sleeping Eye

Bullet Train To Kyoto is a nice companion to JAL To Tokyo.

edit: on the warner website http://www.warnerchappell.co.uk/ if you search for Karl Hyde for songwriter, there is also a song called Darc R18. This song is credited 'Hyde, Karl/Smith, Richard', while 'Darc' is 'Rick Smith/Karl Hyde', whatever that means. There seem to be some typos on that site as there is a song called 'Foil Gif Sett R22b D 1 Mix' and then one called 'Foil Giff Set R22'. There is also a song called 'Cuddle Bunny Vs Celtic Villages'.

I wonder if some of these unknown songs are Sunshine tracks.

[testudo]

i listened to darc today, it made me smile ;)

[hypeless]

can anyone tell me where on WISP i can find darc? after the thread, i'm quite compelled :)

[joethelion]

...boy it sure would be nice if some kind soul would PM me and say "hey joe, b/c you don't have a PS2, let alone a PS2 that can play Japanese video games, here's mp3 copies of the tracks"

...just sayin'

[testudo]

In WISP it is sort of a random process, you need to keep playing and searching for it to generate the action... rest assured it is a very quick clip... you may be VERY let down, now that we have a quality show recording.

[hypeless]

ok... now... i'm missing something... can i get the "quality show recording" from somewhere?

[TheBang]

http://www.underworldlive.com

In the Archive, Audio 2005, Amsterdam show.

[hypeless]

omg - i dunno how i missed the new material in the archive...

thanks TheBang - feeling pretty damn stupid :)

[Roger_Smith]

Frankly, Darc is one of the best track that Underworld has wrote these last months with Shake that Higher. Lenny Penne is not really good but peggy sussed in a little better with a rock touch. I really hope that Darc will be on the next album because I am addicted to it ! :D :)

[testudo]

I really can't wait for a proper release of this track...

This song is legendary, the way it builds... wow! :D