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the mongoose
06-28-2006, 12:03 PM
This film just didn't do it for me at all. I wanted it to kick ass so it's a damn shame. For starters, it's just too damn long and there's not enough action to really justify it. It started out very promising in the first half but slowy along the way turned into a big mess of a flick that was pretty hard to stomach near the end. The acting is great for what it's worth, but it aint worth shit because the stuff they're told to say and do either don't make sense or are outright dumb.
Parker Posey is annoying as all hell playing Kitty Kowalski. Lex Luthor is ruined because they make him into a dumbass buffoon that bumbles arounds with Kitty and the crew like it was Boris and Natasha.....uh.
The whole love triangle thing is teeth grating and snooze inducing. Lame use of EXACT shots and music etc from the first films really distract instead of adding anything special. Not to mention some gigantic glaring plot flaws that will make your head explode if you think too hard about them.
They should've just started anew instead of "Returning"....that would have effectively nixed a lot of the weird story decisions they vomited out for the second half of this bloated beast. The John Williams score is great of couse, and I've gotta give credit to the sound effects guys cause the explosions are so fucking tight sounding!
Anyways, that's my spoiler-free opinion of it.....hopefully you'll enjoy it better than I did but don't get your hopes up (up and away).
Malt Refund
06-29-2006, 11:01 AM
Sucks to hear.. well, I'm sure to like it anyway. Who knows? Maybe I'll like it. I liked X-Men 3 even though it was universally disliked by almost everyone.
Caprice
07-02-2006, 09:11 PM
i liked xmen 3,
i did not like superman returns,
SPOILER
the end was just terrible
Bargo
07-03-2006, 12:49 AM
I liked it, but didn't love it. Agree that the end was just.. muddled, mis-timed and could've done with a bit more editing and focus.
SPOILERS BELOW
Superman totally comes off looking like a crazy stalker. Those scenes of lurking around the back of Lois's home, and using x-ray vision on her whilst she's at home or in the elevator.. I got a really weird vibe off that which probably wasn't intentional. :confused:
Malt Refund
07-03-2006, 08:30 PM
I didn't get that at all. He just loved her, they're supposed to be together after all. If he was a stalker he'd be seeing thru her panties or something. He's Superman you have to cut him some slack.
chuck
07-03-2006, 11:54 PM
Have to go with the goose on this one - just didn't quite make it for me. Am on holiday and watched it in a small theatre with rock hard seats, so that didn't make it any easier - but it just could have been so much better.
More action - more conflict - less pouting and long lingering looks.
Routh does Kent even better than Reeves - but in some ways thats too creepy as well. I liked the production design - sets were cool and the suit was done right - but the sound was dodgy at this old theatre I saw it at, so that can't have helped.
more when i'm not sitting in an internet cafe!!
the mongoose
07-04-2006, 02:48 AM
I didn't get that at all. He just loved her, they're supposed to be together after all. If he was a stalker he'd be seeing thru her panties or something. He's Superman you have to cut him some slack.
Well if he's not a creepy asshole for that then:
(spoilers)
Mind wiping a pregnant woman and leaving for 5 years then coming back only to fly the fuck away again, with not one bit of child support.....man, there's a creep for you right there.;)
dubman
07-04-2006, 05:18 PM
you people are idiots.
and that's a fact.
this movie was damn good.
Sarcasmo
07-04-2006, 08:41 PM
you people are idiots.
and that's a fact.
this movie was damn good.
So exactly what side of the fence are you on?;)
the mongoose
07-04-2006, 10:50 PM
this movie was damn good...........
.....FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!;):D:D
sloff
07-05-2006, 12:47 PM
While I realize I mentioned my utter dislike of Superman on the X3 thread, my friends talked me into going.
Superman Returns was better than I expected, but I expected the worst.
I felt like Spacey and Posey were really the highlights of the film and was interested by the angle that Lex is trying to "check" Superman's all powerful self (with a profit for himself of course).
I was also very put off by the creepy stalker vibe of Supes.
Oh, and here's the comic geek in me, Metropolis was based on Toronto not NY. NYC is Gotham. I don't mean to say that the city in the film should have looked like Toronto, but maybe a lot less like New York.
All in all, I was very bored and wish I had 6.50 of my $8.50 back. This is without a doubt a film to see in the second-run discount theater.
dirtytomato
07-06-2006, 10:57 PM
SPOILER
...Superman totally comes off looking like a crazy stalker. Those scenes of lurking around the back of Lois's home...
I tried to keep from laughing when I saw this scene because it reminded me of this:
http://www.superdickery.com/other/40.html
sloff
07-07-2006, 02:22 PM
This is sooo great. How have I never seen that site before? Thanks for brightening my day.
gambit
07-08-2006, 03:13 PM
you people are idiots.
and that's a fact.
this movie was damn good.I agree with this man. Didn't really get Luthor's plan, and yeah, somethings could've been tightened up a bit, but I really did like it.
dubman
07-08-2006, 04:32 PM
I agree with this man. Didn't really get Luthor's plan, and yeah, somethings could've been tightened up a bit, but I really did like it.
BIRDSHIT ISLAND! :D
the best part is that it was divided into states
re: superman as a stalker
dude is in love. can't expect aliens to know what's creepy or unacceptable. he just acts according to himself and what he observes. so he's dorky clark kent as what he thinks dorky is, he upholds the vague concept of "good" unfailingly as superman, and love is something he's dealing with in his own odd way. yes, this makes him seem vacant and super-distant, but i rather llike this interpretation of how simply someone who is, after all, AN ALIEN, acts.
another best scene: the elevator. kent is totally goofed out and she's having none of it. i dont know why it was so funny.
a friend said she was reminded of me when luthor went into the "i just want to hear it one more time. i just want you to say it" with a perverse delight.
i dont know how i feel about that
myrrh
11-04-2006, 09:29 AM
I know this is late but...
I finally saw this last night. I was extremely hesitant due to the negative press it got here, but I must say that I totally dug it. I didn't feel it was too long. I thought that there was enough action. I liked all the aspect of Superman that they went into that they didn't do in the old movies. I thought it was great that they continued the storyline and pulled it off, in my book. I liked the piano to the head. I liked how the use of todays special effects made Superman much more cooler and more 'realistic'. All in all, there wasn't really anything I didn't like enough about it to make me think bad of it.
I wish I would've seen it on IMAX.
b.miller
11-04-2006, 10:32 AM
I wish I would've seen it on IMAX.
Aside from the bigger screen, the IMAX version of this movie is really nothing special. They advertise it as 3D but it's really only about 15-minutes through the entire film. They pick really weird sequences to do in 3D too. Like... the beginning credits? perhaps the best most made-for-3D beginning titles of all time? nah, they're flat. Never mind that they are completely CG and would have been dead easy to convert. Instead, you get a 3D cornfield when he's running through it yay! The shuttle sequence is in 3D, which does look awesome. and somewhere around the island-making climax it goes into 3D again... I can't remember exactly where... so for most of the movie you're just holding the dumb glasses and waiting. Kind of a waste in my opinion.
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