BIG Sister Poll...

[big screen satellite]

how good is it?

just vote out of TEN

[dubman]

stephen you're a jerk

[BeautifulBurnout]

stephen you're a jerk

Hey! Everyone's entitled to their own opinion!







(Yeah, Dubman's opinion is the right one. :p)

[denkbat]

The question is about "the release". I'd put the music up at 8, but the slideshow is pointless in my opinion... A waste of opportunity, since they can make something special out of these packages. Therefore I went for a 5 :)

I'm assuming Stephen didn't like the slideshow either ;)

[Tendinha]

I will wait for a few days before my vote!

I have to listen for a few times to really apreciate the music...

I hope it will grow on me.

[the mongoose]

1 out of 10 for the bitrate assfucking alone!:mad::mad::mad:

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

heh, heh, heh - I'll keep my mouth shut.


Best of the three, hands down. It's a lullaby(in a good way), so I'd recommend no one listen to this in a jacuzzi or pool.

[m.g.]

not 10 because perfection doesn't belong to this world...
not 9 'cos i listened some uw tracks a bit better than this one...
so... it'll be 8 ;)

[Dirty0900]

Best one of the three.

[undarrenworld]

I like that. Its 8/10.

[potatobroth]

i gave it a 2 out of 10 and here is why:

It's quite boring and has almost no replay value to me. Musically its pretty nice for a single listen through i cannot imagine having any desire to listen to this again unless i was taking a bath or something. Dont mistake me for saying its bad, because its not. Its just not my cup of tea where underworld is related. here's my breakdown:

The first two tracks, Peach Tree, an Mowed Path I believe, work very well together but, again imo, are wildly underdeveloped. Peach Tree seems to take me right to the apex, right to the point where it can deliver some great and heavy beats but it doesnt. instead it drops us off into an OichOichy track (and my fave on here) but a downer after a 10minute buildup. I especially like the feel of the beginning of Peach Tree in the same way i like the beginning of Deep Arch. Both of these tracks have a similar held-chord loop that brings the emotion, but both of these tracks hold the same fate of dropping you off before you arrive at your destination.

Showlder is nice, but again, ill never be saying, "oh man, im in a mood to hear Showlder!"

The vocals in Wedge make me uncomfortable. I cant describe it but i get the same feeling when i hear Shakiras voice. its that muted chord sound that i cant listen to. i do not like this track at all.

100Hz (last track?) has a charm much in the same way the Avalanches piano tracks do too, but again, no desire to be charmed by it again.

[Jan]

I agree that you can barely understand the lyrics of Wedge and that it doens't work well at the beginning of that track. But when the drums kick in it becomes fitting.
The underdevelopement of some tracks... i thought that was the whole point of the RiverRun? Anyway, i don't think the tracks suffer that much from it.
Maybe i'll rate it in a few months... when i'll have listened to it more.

[potatobroth]

I agree that you can barely understand the lyrics of Wedge and that it doens't work well at the beginning of that track. But when the drums kick in it becomes fitting.
The underdevelopement of some tracks... i thought that was the whole point of the RiverRun? Anyway, i don't think the tracks suffer that much from it.
Maybe i'll rate it in a few months... when i'll have listened to it more.

yeah, i dont really want to give the impression that i thought it was bad, but more that it wasnt my style of music. its actually quite good at having the UW sound and being unique, its just that im not fond of this particular installment. the drums at the end of Wedge do fit with the lyrics, but still to me feel underwhelming. in fact thats the common theme for me in this installment, underwhelming percussion when im expecting to be overwhelmed. its a personal preference of course, and by no means does it mean they shouldnt continue to dabble in this kind of music.

EDIT:
the last track, has a very David Lynch/Badalamenti soundtrack feel to it. couldnt place my finger on it, but it just hit me.

[Cadevil]

i gave it a 2 out of 10 and here is why:

It's quite boring and has almost no replay value to me. Musically its pretty nice for a single listen through i cannot imagine having any desire to listen to this again unless i was taking a bath or something. Dont mistake me for saying its bad, because its not. Its just not my cup of tea where underworld is related. here's my breakdown:

The first two tracks, Peach Tree, an Mowed Path I believe, work very well together but, again imo, are wildly underdeveloped. Peach Tree seems to take me right to the apex, right to the point where it can deliver some great and heavy beats but it doesnt. instead it drops us off into an OichOichy track (and my fave on here) but a downer after a 10minute buildup. I especially like the feel of the beginning of Peach Tree in the same way i like the beginning of Deep Arch. Both of these tracks have a similar held-chord loop that brings the emotion, but both of these tracks hold the same fate of dropping you off before you arrive at your destination.

Showlder is nice, but again, ill never be saying, "oh man, im in a mood to hear Showlder!"

The vocals in Wedge make me uncomfortable. I cant describe it but i get the same feeling when i hear Shakiras voice. its that muted chord sound that i cant listen to. i do not like this track at all.

100Hz (last track?) has a charm much in the same way the Avalanches piano tracks do too, but again, no desire to be charmed by it again.

Found your comparisons to the PG EP fitting, though that is a reason for me to like this release as I LOVE everything on Pearl's Girl. I will reserve judgement on Big Sister as I've only listened to it twice. First impressions put this at a #3 ranking behind P4E and LBT, for me.

I get that sort of filthy underworld feeling towrds the end of this that I just love. Hard to explain....but it's great.

[dog]

oh reading this i really don't have much desire to download it, probably will due to collection value, but the other RR's were pretty boring IMO

[Future Proof]

I think that you definately have to be a fan of ambient music to dig this one. It's quite good in that aspect and I was listening to it while working and found it to be really good in the background. The fact that they have a new album coming soon tells me that they have what they feel is a crop of A-side tracks and I don't think the RR series was meant to deliver on that premise, although JAL To Tokyo was quite nice in that respect.

In all, I give this a 7/10, average. No way in hell though do I give this or any of the other installments higher, nor do I think they expect that I don't think. There were a whole lot of good ideas expressed though the various RR releases but good ideas don't always make good songs and I know this -- I have about 100 good ideas on my studio HD myself, and they're going nowhere. :)

[the real stuff]

This is just flowing with style. It's fucking gorgeous -- I can see why it's boring for some, but I eat this stuff right up. Easily my favorite of the three releases so far.

Not anything I'd expect on their next album, but damn if it isn't beautiful.

[negative1]

a little too mellow for my tastes,
i listened to it, and didn't notice to
much activity in it..

if this is the last riverun, then i'd be
disappointed..

taking the three together as a whole
makes it ok (i hope the mix is better)..

i still think the first release was the best.

4/10

later
-1

[Dirty Canuck]

Have listened to it for a few days now to properly wrap my head around the new music (as with almost everything U/W), and think it's simply beautiful and hypnotic....
"Peach Tree" and "11 Hundred Hz." is worthy enough to be slotted any album, for sure....

[lowbit]

There is definitely a much greater focus on the ambient sound aspect of the work in this one than in previous releases, although that may just be because the work as a whole is more understated.

It's going to be very interesting to see which bits from RR are selected out for the album and how they're connected back together (and whether the album is released as a continuous-sounding mix or discrete tracks). With one more RR release they could have enough for a double album, or even two albums (one soft, one loud?)!

[mmm skyscraper]

It's going to be very interesting to see which bits from RR are selected out for the album and how they're connected back together (and whether the album is released as a continuous-sounding mix or discrete tracks). With one more RR release they could have enough for a double album, or even two albums (one soft, one loud?)!

If they shaved off about 6 minutes here and there, they could release all the RR as one cd. Or on cassette with no editing.

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Or on cassette with no editing.
Oh god I wish the rolleyes emote was bigger but for now I just have to give you

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Eikman]

4/10 from me. first part is nice, after that it becomes a bit dull (and no, i like ambient in general)

[undarrenworld]

I like that. Its 8/10.

Im starting to like it more and more!
Its amazing!

[lloyd]

I don't think we'll see parts of riverrun back on an album. There will be parts of the 3 rrp releases used in the 'misterons mix' that will be released july 10th though.
And don't forget the remixes by others that will be released on 12"!
Who knows what will be on those for B-sides..

[Flywaver]

Haven't done the other polls but ill give this an 8/10. Pizza For Eggs i would give 9/10 as i like more tracks and LovelyBrokenThing 7/10.
Pleased i have finally got the download :)

[*_*]

5/10

The slideshow is the highlight for me.

[polar_action]

11 Hundred Hz on loop.... chilled :rolleyes:

For me, this is fine underworld. there are bits i like, bits that i'm indifferent about and bits that i absolutely love.



sorted, respect due (c) harry hill

[jose m]

well said sir ! thats underworld !:)

[King of Snake]

I gave it a seven. There's some really nice chilled sounds in there but nothing really stands out. Still, overall it's not bad at all.
I'd give PFE a 8.5, mostly because the first two tracks are abolustely brilliant, and the rest pretty decent as well. LBT would probably get also 7 from me. Some good moments but not really enough to keep me coming back for more.

[Dirty0900]

5/10

The slideshow is the highlight for me.

i still cant get mine to work:(

[BeautifulBurnout]

i still cant get mine to work:(

Have you tried changing the name of the file to something else? Had this problem too and Lloyd pointed me in the right direction. I just changed mine to 05 Slideshow.mov and it works a treat in Media Player Classic.

[stimpee]

As there are 5 tracks, then I'd have to rate each track out of 2. therefore i think i'll rate each track out of 20 and then total up to give a %. not finished listening yet :) still sinking in. no point in voting yet. i think i'll split the files also first. Still perfecting the CUE file.

[big screen satellite]

i voted initially 7, but i'd like to downgrade my mark to a 5, because i think that this is more than 30% off perfect and nearer to just 50% good -

in a sense - will i be listening to this in 6 months time? no probably not - i might dip back into it but its not something that i will put on and play back because i really dig it, because i don't think i will....

thats not to say i don't like the music in it or the production, which i think are both great, its just as a piece of music it really doesn't do anything for me...

i really prefer single ambient pieces in shorter bursts, rather than longer sections, and I much prefer P4E & LBT and i'd only rate those 8 & 7 out of 10 respectively, so to give this 7 was initially a bit rash and so would like it noted that i rate this 5 in retrospect

overall as a package the deal is great - a cover, the quicktime movie etc, but I really won't be revisiting it that often....

but each to their own - this may be more to other's liking so enjoy it if you do

Matt

[holden]

thats not to say i don't like the music in it or the production, which i think are both great, its just as a piece of music it really doesn't do anything for me...

i really prefer single ambient pieces in shorter bursts, rather than longer sections...

but each to their own - this may be more to other's liking so enjoy it if you do

Matt

i agree with you. It is an excellent indication of the ambient side of Underworld, and though there are lots of cool subtleties, for me, it's not very memorable. In contrast, i can recall/hum/sing various tracks from LBT and to a lesser extent, P4E.

For me, this is beautiful music for doing something else, but it probably won't be the first record i reach for if i wanna hear some UW!

There are also grades of ambient music. For some folks, the more minimal, the better. Personally, i can't take fifteen minutes of a single droning sound (not saying that UW did this!). On the other spectrum is something like the Orb (ambient house, i suppose they're considered), which i totally dig because the sounds keep changing throughout those 15 minutes.

Still, i can totally appreciate "I'm a big sister" and am all the more looking forward to the soundtrack, since it probably has more in the way of experimental sounds/ambient bits versus dance and lyric-driven tracks. Just speculatin'.

[Stephen]

stephen you're a jerk
Yeah. Well. Your mum's a jerk. How the fuck did you know that was me? I don't really think it's a 0 out of 10, I just thought it was pretty lame to stick this poll up within minutes of the release being up. We all know scoring systems are flawed and not least so when you're scoring something when you've barely had time to listen to it twice. People have commented on it and what they like about it and that's all cool, as is UW being able to release effectively what they want. I guess I just don't think that this is constructive, perhaps because it gives the proper fanboys a chance to go "LOOK! People think the new RiverRun is awesome! As do I! Now I need not think about what it is about it that I like! I HEART UW!"

Seriously though, how did you know that was me?

[Jan]

Don't you know that? Just click on the number and it will show the results. ;)

[dubman]

it does say that results are public

also: chill?
i know people who toss what they can't handle say that, but i honestly wasn't insulted. just thought you were being contrary for whatever reason (ie: reasons just stated)

also your whole family is a jerk.

[Stephen]

Whilst I say your mum is a jerk, it is in jest. I'm sure she's lovely. And that wasn't meant to sound as ranty as it did. I think that came more off the back of me not realising I could view the poll results like that than getting called out for rating it a zero. Now I see though so I've learnt something today at least. Je suis chilled.

Anyway, I think the new RR is alright, not terribly interesting though. Might burn it to CD so I can have it in the car and digest it further.

[Dirty Canuck]

Burn it to a CD and play it on a really good system. I did and I appreciate "I'm a Big Sister......" even more. The subtleties really come out in it this way....

[ultradave]

Wow! How'd I miss this over 10 years ago! Can't believe how long it's been since the Riverrun Series. I'd actually rate I'm A Big Sister high on the scale. Of the 3 (The Misterons Mix doesn't count to me - but this has been played in 2nd place), I still listen to I'm A Big Sister... quite frequently.

8.75/10 is my vote!

[nelfun5]

The Riverrun Series is the last memorable EP/concept Underworld has released in my book... It's been a while now.