X-Men 3

[gambit]

So, um, who else was extremely disappointed by this movie? Did anyone stick past the credits to see a Professor X scene (supposedly)? I missed that.

[cured]

I didn't see the scene after the credits...I was long gone.

I was VERY disappointed by this hacked-up reproduction or the great comic series.

All we see of Juggernaut is him running into a wall and knocking himself cold? The end? No nightcrawler? And how is it they showed just about every possible second of Archangel in the trailers and he didn't do anything worthwhile in the movie (and spare me how he changed Storm's mind)?

4/10...I expected more.

[adam]

I'm not bothering with this one. The first two sucked too. It was fun to see special effect recreations of that calibre of classic characters, but that's all they offered. The plots have always been mediocre, the scripts blah, and the directing uninspired: word is this one is worse on all three counts.

I find I get most disagreement from people who weren't fans of the comic. The comic's occasional brilliance set the bar too high for me, I guess. Did you see who wrote this one? Partial credit to the knob who wrote Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Fuck everyone.

[dubman]

despite the blown opportunities, despite the convoluted crap and the bobby/rogue romance disaster adventure, and despite all the other ways this could have been done...

i enjoyed myself immensely.

[dog]

Rogue: most pointless xmen ever!

But i did enjoy it, turn of the ol' noggin and i think there will be a lot for most to enjoy.

[Malt Refund]

I loved it. Colussus throwing Wolv, Sentinels, Danger Room, Phoneix, Brotherhood.. etc. It was definately for the fans.

[koisk]

I loved it, but it's still at the bottom of the list in the ranking of X-Men movies (X-Men 2 being my favorite). A great summer movie, but perhaps not up to par with the series. Hopefully the old director will come back to 4.

[joethelion]

what?

I actually really liked this film, and I used to be absolutely obsessed with the comic books, my local shop would hold for me all the "X-books" every month

I thought it was definitely better than the first one, and I'm a bit hazy with the second, but this, I thought was more true to the comics than previous films

they couldn't do the 'proper' Phoenix saga, and this was probably the best way to convey it (believably). I mean - honestly, was anyone expecting to see the Shi'ar at all?

and there were definitely little bits here and there that were pretty much direct translations f/ the comics (like the last scene with Wolverine + Phoenix [don't want to spoil that])

and yea - there was a scene after the credits... it's in Moira Mactaggert's lab with that guy that Prof X started to talk about when he was lecturing the students....

and I loved that scene with the security guard & Mystique - where he's like "I will spray you in the face with this, bitch!" and she just replies w/ I' will kill you ... or that scene with Kitty Pride and Juggernaut

[cured]

dumb usage of the word "bitch" in both those scenes, Joe :)

My favorite was when we see Mystique locked up and she's in the form of the President, screaming for help.

[XCheeseMan]

dumb usage of the word "bitch" in both those scenes Do you not know who I am?!?! (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3934651591022114445)


Best part of the entire movie. Best part.

[myrrh]

The battle at the end was cool, mainly the part where you see Beast jumping which was right out of the comic book. Other than that, I think it was disappointing. They seemed to try to pack too much into it.

I was hoping that there would be more Xmen fighting though. Like if you read the series when Jim Lee was illustrating it, those huge Xmen posse's is what I was expecting. Where was Nightcrawler? Where was Gambit (he was listed in the database on Xmen 2)? Where was Jubilee? Too many Xmen died in this too.


On the other hand, did they show the Ghost Rider trailer where you guys saw it?

[koisk]

On the other hand, did they show the Ghost Rider trailer where you guys saw it?

Yeah, Ghost Rider and Snakes on a Plane!

[gambit]

There was no competence or emotion in the movie that it just fell apart to pieces for me. The dialogue was some of the most trite, predictable shit I've heard in a movie, and like someone else said, they tried packing in way too much for such a (relatively) short film. Even Hugh Jackman fell short of his usually great performance of Wolvie. I don't care if they follow the comics to a "T," but I'd like the movie to make sense, the dialogue to sound natural, and the characters to be believable.

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I mean, how long did it take them to realize that Scott was missing? After Logan found his glasses and when they found Jean suddenly alive, shouldn't he have stepped and asked someone, "Uh, where's Scott?" Not that they were great buddies in the film, but fuck, if Jean suddenly comes back from the dead (not a normal occurence yet in the films), that should be a huge ass red flag. And wouldn't the Professor realize that Scott was dead since he was one of his best students?

And why didn't they just use the cure on Jean? Distract her long enough while she was in her indifferent daze, and have Wolvie stick the needles in her. Same for the dangerous mutants they were transporting (Mystique, Juggernaut, Multiple Man). Why didn't they use the cure on them if they were so dangerous?

I personally hated how they handled all the deaths. Scott is first of all treated like a B-lister throughout the franchise, and his death is made known via a few passing sentences. Jean's dual deaths both seemed forced as well as the Professor's, like they were mining for sentiment.

Ugh, I could go on for a while, but unlike some people have suggested elsewhere, I do think a Phoenix story and a cure story can coexist in one movie, but not when it's so compressed. I don't see what people like in this movie.

[Malt Refund]

Can someone tell me, in invisible spoiler text.. what happened after the credits? I didn't stick around.

[gambit]

Can someone tell me, in invisible spoiler text.. what happened after the credits? I didn't stick around.Do we still have the invisible spoiler text? Anyway, I'll do it the old fashioned way.

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Remember that scene early when the Professor was showing the video with Moira MacTaggert to his students? It had an unconcious guy in there and they were talking about transfering another mind into his. From what I understand, at the end of the credits, Moira turns around and says, "Charles?"

[ffolkes]

i'm skipping x-3, and maybe see it on dvd some day.

never cared for singer's versions either (imo they were pretty crap), and ratner just sounds even worse.

and yeah i've read x-men.

[cured]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL9scj1qM-c&search=x-men%203%20end
a cheesy clip where you can hear people talking over the movie...but it is the last clip in question with Moira McTaggert and "Charles."

[potatobroth]

despite the blown opportunities, despite the convoluted crap and the bobby/rogue romance disaster adventure, and despite all the other ways this could have been done...

i enjoyed myself immensely.

exactly the same feeling myself.

[Malt Refund]

I thought the girl who played shadowcat was ULTRA CUTE! Mmm if only i was 14 again.

[b.miller]

I thought the girl who played shadowcat was ULTRA CUTE! Mmm if only i was 14 again.

watch a movie called HARD CANDY

[mmm skyscraper]

Where was Gambit (he was listed in the database on Xmen 2)?

from imdb.com

Josh Holloway was offered the role of Gambit, but turned it down because the character was too similar to his character on "Lost" (2004). As a result, the character was never added to the film since this would have been a special cameo put in later had Josh decided to sign on.

[theviirus]

some seriously fatal flaws but looking forward to the next properly produced xmen film.


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bad screenwriting. no bones about this. even the cast were infuriated with the director when in production.

jugglenuts' stupid "bitch" line.

believeability issues, such as when storm and wolverine exit the plane and she does not think to clear the air until she is asked..then goes white in the eyes and does it dramatically.

overuse of CGI. (i found the mass death from disintegration at the last battle to be completly excessive.)

many more too, but basically that was it.

i do like how magneto's power manifests in the very last scene. with this, plus the closing scene, there is room and HOPE for a better x-men film.

[myrrh]

I had forgot to mention in my other post, that I had heard that this was the last X-Men movie, and that they were going to make a Wolverine spin-off instead.

I would like to see a fourth X-Men but to be honest, it would have to to be something great to make up for what did one did, imho.

[sloff]

I thought it was a fine "stupid comic book movie." Its an action film, we're not talking about making Citizen Kane or Metropolis here guys. I've been a long time comic nerd and X-men collector and I can appreciate this for what it is.

Its like getting a couple months of comics written or drawn by someone you don't think is quite as brilliant as Chris Claremont or Jim Lee.
It was still decently crafted and presented, obviously a little less than what we've had but still not as horrendous as the early 90's Captain America or Punisher films. My only negative points: If they'd filled a whole 2 hours it would have been easier to pace the scope of the plot and Nightcrawler needed to appear again.

More power to Synger for doing Superman. There is no bigger turd of a superhero around and it will take a lot of talent to make a character so shallow and lame into a decent film. Good luck man, good luck.

[potatobroth]

dumb usage of the word "bitch" in both those scenes, Joe :)

My favorite was when we see Mystique locked up and she's in the form of the President, screaming for help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Juggernaut_Bitch

So i just dug a bit deeper and found that the "I'm the juggernaut, bitch!" line that is in the film, was first found the redubbed cartoon found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mYaTivlH8A&search=jaugernaut

SO the line in the movie was a direct response to that cartoon and not the other way around. makes the line in the movie a bit funnier now to me. i had wrongly assumed the cartoon was made after the X3 film.

[theviirus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Juggernaut_Bitch

So i just dug a bit deeper and found that the "I'm the juggernaut, bitch!" line that is in the film, was first found the redubbed cartoon found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mYaTivlH8A&search=jaugernaut

SO the line in the movie was a direct response to that cartoon and not the other way around. makes the line in the movie a bit funnier now to me. i had wrongly assumed the cartoon was made after the X3 film.
i know...and i think it silly to validate something so moronic.

[potatobroth]

i know...and i think it silly to validate something so moronic.

meh. its just a little joke.