Lemonworld 2006-05-13 how to split it

[stimpee]

Ok boys and girls, here is how to split the recent 3hr Lemonworld broadcast. If you follow these detailed instructions to the letter you'll have the mp3's in no time at all:

Get the official download from Underworldlive (http://web.underworldlive.com/uworldlive/060513/060513_96k.mp3)
Install CueSplitter 0.6beta8 or better from somewhere. Here's a link to the download (http://www.enfis.it/software/bin/CUE_Splitter_v0.6.msi). Its freeware.
Get the CUE file (http://www.dirty.org/~steve/Underworld_Lemonworld_2006-05-13_RTSR.cue). This was painstakingly made by me after repeated listening, sometimes requiring listening to the original tracks. After that I could mark each track and correctly label it too. The official tracklisting is way out on most of the titles.
Open CueSplitter and open the cue file. This will automatically open the mp3 if its in the same folder. Make sure the cue and mp3 are in the same folder!
Into the Comment: field copy this important message: www.underworldlive.com / rtsr.rowla.com NOT FOR SALE
Into the Year: field, simply type 2006.
For the File Mask click the +(Add) and type in a mask name of anything you like, and a mask of %n %a - %t. This will leave a track with, for example 01 Underworld - Born Slippy. Click Accept and make sure that this mask is selected in the main window.
Press F6 to bring up the Config window and in the CUE file mask and m3u file mask boxes, just type %T (capital T), then click Accept.
From the Genre: list, select Electronic (easiest way is to click on the list and press E, then select it)
(If you want to really know how to use CueSplitter, then there is an up-to-date tutorial (http://tutorial.enfis.eu/) on all the features.)

You are now ready to split the mp3. Click the Split! button and in a few seconds it will be done. This will create 37 mp3's that are tagged with Name, Title, Track Number, Genre and Comment, and are named in a numbered format with Artist and Title. It will also create a labelled WinAmp .m3u playlist and a new .cue file also.

Macintosh users: There is a freeware tool also called cue-splitter (http://www.gritsch-soft.com/_appcuesplitter/index.html) for MacOS X that will take the above mp3 and cue files, allow you to similarly split and tag the mp3 with Name, Title, Track Number and Genre, and name the files in a numbered format with Artist and Title.

EDIT: Some Mac users are finding that cue-splitter v2.6 and v2.5.2 crash when you click "split". The solution is to use v2.2.2 but there is a check inside it which means it will only run on MacOS 10.3. If youre using MacOS 10.3 this isnt a problem, but if you're using 10.4 the solution is below. I know this easy fix works because I made it myself!

1. get the cue-splitter v2.2.2 (http://gritsch-soft.com/_appcuesplitter/dl.html)
2. get HexEditor 2.0 from macupdate.com (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/17562) or versiontracker.com (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/10658)
3. load in the cue-splitter to HexEditor.
4. find Resources/MacOS and go to offset 00009E10
5. look for 10.3, change to 10.4.
6. save and run :)

[BeautifulBurnout]

Nice work! Even I could manage this. And you know what women are like with computers! ;) :p

[patrick]

wow. this is so comprehensive stimpee. you are amazing

most painstaiking post ever!

[bryantm3]

um... the mac application just crashes.... :(
sometimes having a mac is really frustrating, sometimes it's a relief.

[swillhite]

stimpee- thank you for taking the time to create and post this, it worked perfectly.

[spacefish]

Thanks, stimpee! :)

[Flywaver]

When i open in same folder as the MP3 it doesnt seem to recongise it being there!? :confused:

[lloyd]

You're sure you didn't rename the file Flywaver? I had ofcourse to make destinction between the downloads and then I got an error too.

[stimpee]

When i open in same folder as the MP3 it doesnt seem to recongise it being there!? :confused:The mp3 must be called 060513_96k.mp3 (that's what its called at underworldlive.com), and in the same folder as the cue file.um... the mac application just crashes.... :(I haven't tested this so I don't know but it does say that the latest version has only been tested on Tiger, and not Panther. Try v2.5.2 or v2.2.2 if the latest one doesnt work for you. I'll try and test it today on my G4 and see what's up.

EDIT: Ok, i've done some detective work on the Mac and you're right. It crashes both v2.6 and v2.5.2 when I click "Split!" (I'm using MacOS 10.4.6). So I downloaded v2.2.2 but that came up with a message saying its for 10.3 only. So I did what most people would do, and got out the Hex Editor :p and changed the 10.3 string to 10.4 and ya know what? It loaded, AND it split the files without error. Gotta go now, but I'll be back later and post more instructions, or this hacked version of v2.2.2 for people to use.

[froopy seal]

Get the CUE file (http://www.dirty.org/%7Esteve/Underworld_Lemonworld_2006-05-13_RTSR.cue). This was painstakingly made by me after repeated listening, sometimes requiring listening to the original tracks. I know what you're talking about, listening to Underworld music hours upon hours... *sighs*

Hehe, just kidding. Thanks for the comprehensive manual!

[TheBang]

Here's the easiest way I've found with Mac.

1. Download MP3 Trimmer (http://www.deepniner.net/mp3trimmer/) (fully-functional shareware)
2. Open MP3 Trimmer.
3. Drag and drop the MP3 file onto the window. Wait a couple minutes while it processes.
4. Drag and drop the CUE file onto the window.
5. A new Auto-Trim window should open. Click the "Auto-Trim Now!" button, and you're done!

Only bad thing is it doesn't put the track numbers in the name or tags. If you want track numbers, you might want to edit the ID3 tag for each track before pressing the "Auto-Trim Now" button.

[botkiller]

you're a king of men Stimps.

[bryantm3]

Here's the easiest way I've found with Mac.

1. Download MP3 Trimmer (http://www.deepniner.net/mp3trimmer/) (fully-functional shareware)
2. Open MP3 Trimmer.
3. Drag and drop the MP3 file onto the window. Wait a couple minutes while it processes.
4. Drag and drop the CUE file onto the window.
5. A new Auto-Trim window should open. Click the "Auto-Trim Now!" button, and you're done!

Only bad thing is it doesn't put the track numbers in the name or tags. If you want track numbers, you might want to edit the ID3 tag for each track before pressing the "Auto-Trim Now" button.

wish it worked for me. it splits the files but some of the mp3s that are produced are competely blank. maybe i didn't do it right. i'll try it again.
edit: tried it again- same thing, don't know why.

[xonize]

someone make a cue file that works in foobar, a lot better in my opinion, keeps the one file but lets you skip to diff tracks by predefined times.
any takers ;o ?

[bryantm3]

so, stimpee... can't wait for that modded program. :D

[aaron5000]

Your set up was perfect, thank you. I downloaded the program, the cue, put them into the same folder, loaded the cue, and clicked split. Didn't need to do anything else.


Thanks for taking the time. Much appreciated.

[bryantm3]

hey.. ho.. where's your modded program-o?:p

[Lou]

yes thanks so much Stimpee, it even worked for me :D

(and i wish there was an ignore possibility in the logged-in mode as well :S )

[stimpee]

hey.. ho.. where's your modded program-o?:pokay okay. I'll do it, unless you want to have a go yourself :)

1. get the cue-splitter v2.2.2
2. get HexEditor 2.0 from macupdate.com or versiontracker.com
3. load in the cue-splitter to HexEditor.
4. find Resources/MacOS and go to offset 00009E10
5. look for 10.3, change to 10.4.
6. save and run

[stimpee]

someone make a cue file that works in foobar, a lot better in my opinion, keeps the one file but lets you skip to diff tracks by predefined times.
any takers ;o ?I tried to make foobar do what I wanted but this seemed to be the best solution for most people, so its easier to just quickly download CueSplitter and follow the instructions.

[Clipitar]

Thanks very much Stimpee! Much appreciated!

[bryantm3]

stimpee! works perfectly. thanks a ton!

[stimpee]

Thanks very much Stimpee! Much appreciated!stimpee! works perfectly. thanks a ton!I love (http://www.punto.it/img/spaziofoto/space10/137470/ImmG_hytorakiki_01135762241.jpg) it when (http://www.angelfire.com/hi/hiropro/images/DSGPfc.jpg) a plan (http://henkjan.he.funpic.org/images/ateam.jpg) comes (http://i.tvspielfilm.de/img/gen/P/C/HBPCAJMaadg_Pxgen_r_360x240.jpg) together (http://www.ecranlarge.com/images/dvd/tests/agencetousrisquess207.jpg)! :cool:

[aaron5000]

I love (http://www.punto.it/img/spaziofoto/space10/137470/ImmG_hytorakiki_01135762241.jpg) it when (http://www.angelfire.com/hi/hiropro/images/DSGPfc.jpg) a plan (http://henkjan.he.funpic.org/images/ateam.jpg) comes (http://i.tvspielfilm.de/img/gen/P/C/HBPCAJMaadg_Pxgen_r_360x240.jpg) together (http://www.ecranlarge.com/images/dvd/tests/agencetousrisquess207.jpg)! :cool:

How long have you been stockpiling those for this moment?

[oversight]

Thanks a lot for the cue and the info, Stimpee! Great work!

b.t.w. to the ones who have never heard of foobar, looking for less trouble playing the tracks individually: the player foobar (http://www.foobar2000.org) is capable of opening the CUE file directly, as if it were a playlist.
All that is required are the files Underworld_Lemonworld_2006-05-13_RTSR.cue and 060513_96k.mp3 residing in the same directory. Good luck!

[m.g.]

1. get the cue-splitter v2.2.2
2. get HexEditor 2.0 from macupdate.com or versiontracker.com
3. load in the cue-splitter to HexEditor.
4. find Resources/MacOS and go to offset 00009E10
5. look for 10.3, change to 10.4.
6. save and run Ok. my G4 uses 10.4.6, got cue-splitter, v2.6 & v2.5.2 crashed (i like to try ;)), got cue-splitter 2.2.2, got HexEditor, never found this offset 00009E10 BUT i changed every "10.3" to "10.4" (3 times) AND it worked like magic...

Thank you so much Stimpee... (and how can you know things like that?!)

ps : if I could do that, even a donkey or a wheelbarrow can do it... :) <--- m.g. happy!

[bartl]

On Windows, in Winamp, using the Cue Player (http://winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=143011) plugin, there's no need to split the mp3. Place the .cue file next to the .mp3, load the .cue file into Winamp's playlist, and Cue Player will split it into virtual tracks in Winamp's playlist. There's no gap/closed gap on continued playback between the tracks at all, but it's nice to be able to know what is playing, and of course, you can now easily jump to another part of the file.

[Bargo]

Finally got around to trying this out, and it worked a treat. Thanks Stimpee, for writing idiot-proof instructions. :)

[Sinus]

Did the HexEdit mod on CueSplitter 2.2.2
CueSplitter only made 33 files for me.
Over and over again I tried it - 33 files only.

[mmm skyscraper]

The download from www.underworldlive.com doesn't have Something Atmospheric on it, so the cue file doesn't work. Is there an easy way to just delete the first track off the cue file?

[holden]

The download from www.underworldlive.com (http://www.underworldlive.com) doesn't have Something Atmospheric on it, so the cue file doesn't work. Is there an easy way to just delete the first track off the cue file?

Really? The DL and cue Stimpee provided worked perfect for me!
If you save the cue as a .txt file, you can go in and edit/renumber as needed, i think.

[Sinus]

The download from www.underworldlive.com doesn't have Something Atmospheric on it, so the cue file doesn't work. Is there an easy way to just delete the first track off the cue file?

I concur - cue file is for an mp3 that is over 3 hours long,
the one I downloaded today (5-22) is 2:58.

Begins with Jack Kerouac - there's no 14 min track before that.

Maybe that's why CueSplitter didn't work properly for me?

Only explanation I can think of is that a longer file was available for a few days, and now there's a shortened version on uwlive.

[mmm skyscraper]

Really? The DL and cue Stimpee provided worked perfect for me!
If you save the cue as a .txt file, you can go in and edit/renumber as needed, i think.

Thanks, I guess I'll just have to edit it by hand.

[Sinus]

would anyone care to link to the original (longer) file?

[Roytron]

The cue file doesn't download correctly. When I click the link, it just shows me the text of the cue file. When I option click, it downloads as <filename>.cue.text

[bryantm3]

The cue file doesn't download correctly. When I click the link, it just shows me the text of the cue file. When I option click, it downloads as <filename>.cue.text
rename the file <filename>.cue and you should be all set :)

[Roytron]

rename the file <filename>.cue and you should be all set :)


ok thanks

i'm about to download it...

[spacefish]

I concur - cue file is for an mp3 that is over 3 hours long,
the one I downloaded today (5-22) is 2:58.

Begins with Jack Kerouac - there's no 14 min track before that.

Maybe that's why CueSplitter didn't work properly for me?

Only explanation I can think of is that a longer file was available for a few days, and now there's a shortened version on uwlive.

This sounds likely since the version I dl'd included that atmospheric track. It worked perfectly with Steve's cue sheet using mp3DirectCut. I wonder why they decided to exclude it after the fact?

[Jan]

I wonder why they decided to exclude it after the fact?
At least the last track is not cut off.
For the atmospheric track, i'm sure it was there because people could join 15 minutes after the start and not miss anything of the real show. Like they did with the last broadcast where they played Kraftwerk. (first time i heard Kraftwerk in English.:))

[stimpee]

Thanks to aNt for the replacing the file (I assume it was he). The full 9mins of Fovea Hex is just wonderful. I love this stuff. However, my CUE file is a bit screwed now, yes. Maybe i'll produce another one.

[Sinus]

Maybe i'll produce another one.

Yay! :) :) :) :)

[Pappie]

i love you Stimpee (not physicaly I mean)
:D

[Hoevenen Lion]

Ok boys and girls, here is how to split the recent 3hr Lemonworld broadcast. If you follow these detailed instructions to the letter you'll have the mp3's in no time at all:
Get the official download from Underworldlive (http://web.underworldlive.com/uworldlive/060513/060513_96k.mp3)
Install CueSplitter 0.6beta8 or better from somewhere. Here's a link to the download (http://www.enfis.it/software/bin/CUE_Splitter_v0.6.msi). Its freeware.
Get the CUE file (http://www.dirty.org/%7Esteve/Underworld_Lemonworld_2006-05-13_RTSR.cue). This was painstakingly made by me after repeated listening, sometimes requiring listening to the original tracks. After that I could mark each track and correctly label it too. The official tracklisting is way out on most of the titles.
Open CueSplitter and open the cue file. This will automatically open the mp3 if its in the same folder. Make sure the cue and mp3 are in the same folder!
Into the Comment: field copy this important message: www.underworldlive.com (http://www.underworldlive.com) / rtsr.rowla.com NOT FOR SALE
Into the Year: field, simply type 2006.
For the File Mask click the +(Add) and type in a mask name of anything you like, and a mask of %n %a - %t. This will leave a track with, for example 01 Underworld - Born Slippy. Click Accept and make sure that this mask is selected in the main window.
Press F6 to bring up the Config window and in the CUE file mask and m3u file mask boxes, just type %T (capital T), then click Accept.
From the Genre: list, select Electronic (easiest way is to click on the list and press E, then select it)(If you want to really know how to use CueSplitter, then there is an up-to-date tutorial (http://tutorial.enfis.eu/) on all the features.)

You are now ready to split the mp3. Click the Split! button and in a few seconds it will be done. This will create 37 mp3's that are tagged with Name, Title, Track Number, Genre and Comment, and are named in a numbered format with Artist and Title. It will also create a labelled WinAmp .m3u playlist and a new .cue file also.

Macintosh users: There is a freeware tool also called cue-splitter (http://www.gritsch-soft.com/_appcuesplitter/index.html) for MacOS X that will take the above mp3 and cue files, allow you to similarly split and tag the mp3 with Name, Title, Track Number and Genre, and name the files in a numbered format with Artist and Title.

EDIT: Some Mac users are finding that cue-splitter v2.6 and v2.5.2 crash when you click "split". The solution is to use v2.2.2 but there is a check inside it which means it will only run on MacOS 10.3. If youre using MacOS 10.3 this isnt a problem, but if you're using 10.4 the solution is below. I know this easy fix works because I made it myself!

1. get the cue-splitter v2.2.2 (http://gritsch-soft.com/_appcuesplitter/dl.html)
2. get HexEditor 2.0 from macupdate.com (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/17562) or versiontracker.com (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/10658)
3. load in the cue-splitter to HexEditor.
4. find Resources/MacOS and go to offset 00009E10
5. look for 10.3, change to 10.4.
6. save and run :)
Thx Mate, Echt bedankt!

Do you have the same service for the previous radioshow?

[stimpee]

Do you have the same service for the previous radioshow?The previous radio show was split and distributed via RTSR. Its probably archived away now.

[happiness stan]

thanks stimpee, good work.

[crazysugarboy]

I cant do it!!!:confused: I have the broadcast download as a real player file plus cue splitter and stimpees cue sheet (the real player file and the cue shett are defo in the same folder - but when I click the cue sheet file it simply says "unable to find the source file audio specified in CUE file"! Should i try to change the broadcast file from a real player file to something else??

[stimpee]

I cant do it!!!:confused: I have the broadcast download as a real player file plus cue splitter and stimpees cue sheet (the real player file and the cue shett are defo in the same folder - but when I click the cue sheet file it simply says "unable to find the source file audio specified in CUE file"! Should i try to change the broadcast file from a real player file to something else??the latest version of the show for download differs from the CUE sheet. If you downloaded the show before this weekend then you can simply follow the instructions in the first post. What you are doing with a Real Player file, I dont know. Its an mp3.

[crazysugarboy]

the latest version of the show for download differs from the CUE sheet. If you downloaded the show before this weekend then you can simply follow the instructions in the first post. What you are doing with a Real Player file, I dont know. Its an mp3.

every audio track i download from underworldlive.com comes as a realplayer file - it just does

[aaron5000]

every audio track i download from underworldlive.com comes as a realplayer file - it just does


Sounds like you probably just have it assoc with real player rather than it being a .rm file.

[stimpee]

from uwlive.com "last day today, wednesday 24th may". if you havent got it, get it now.

[crazysugarboy]

Sounds like you probably just have it assoc with real player rather than it being a .rm file.

i have just deleted the real player prog from the comp and all the files have turned into windowa media files - but still no joy?????

[stimpee]

i have just deleted the real player prog from the comp and all the files have turned into windowa media files - but still no joy?????I think firstly that Real Player stole all the file associations and then you removed it so Windows Media Player took them all. Both nasty applications. It appears that you do have the mp3 though. Does it start with the ambient track or the jack kerouac?

[crazysugarboy]

I think firstly that Real Player stole all the file associations and then you removed it so Windows Media Player took them all. Both nasty applications. It appears that you do have the mp3 though. Does it start with the ambient track or the jack kerouac?

it starts with the ambient track (i'm assuming the kerouac track is the one with the guy talking bout san fransisco) - whenever i download a track off the u/w archive, they appear as realplayer files - all my saved realplayer/u/w files now can only play in media player!! I bort this comp from pc world and it comes with these progs - why aren't we told, from the very start, that they are "nasty applications" (to quote stimpee)

why does everything have to get worse these days??

[stimpee]

it starts with the ambient track (i'm assuming the kerouac track is the one with the guy talking bout san fransisco)Ok, if you have the 14min ambient track then just follow the instructions in the first post exactly. You shouldnt be opening the file in Real Player or Windows Media Player anyway. What you should be doing is opening the CUE file in CueSplitter. If the uwlive recording is in the same folder, it will find it.whenever i download a track off the u/w archive, they appear as realplayer files - all my saved realplayer/u/w files now can only play in media player!!Heh. its not that bad. I suspect that what happened was that you had Real Player installed and it stole the file associations for all media types. Then you uninstalled that and then MS Windows Media Player took them all meaning that all media files now open in that. I also suspect that you dont have visible file extensions (go into My Computer/Tools/Folder Options/View and de-select the "Hide extensions for known file types" box). Hopefully the file you saved from Underworldlive.com will now show up as .mp3 (although the icon next to it may show Real Player or Windows Media Player and open in one of those applications). I bort this comp from pc world and it comes with these progs - why aren't we told, from the very start, that they are "nasty applications" (to quote stimpee) BTW, by a "nasty application" I mean ones that do things that you don't ask it to, such as changing settings like which application is chosen to open certain file types.

[crazysugarboy]

Many, many thanks stimpee for your detailed replies - however, it still doesn't work:confused:

My files now have the .mp3 suffixes, and they now have a different icon (the one of the square with the top blue bar and 6 little squares, like a pc window, against a white page with the top right corner folded back.)

Shall I just wait for r&k to put the live tracks on the archive, as promised??

[aaron5000]

it starts with the ambient track (i'm assuming the kerouac track is the one with the guy talking bout san fransisco) - whenever i download a track off the u/w archive, they appear as realplayer files - all my saved realplayer/u/w files now can only play in media player!! I bort this comp from pc world and it comes with these progs - why aren't we told, from the very start, that they are "nasty applications" (to quote stimpee)

why does everything have to get worse these days??

What program do you llike to use to listen to music? Right click on the file, click on 'open with', click 'choose program', put a check in the empty box, double click on the program you want to play your music files.