Born Slippy, but which one?

[holden]

Okay all...maybe the polls are flying fast and frequently these days, but i haven't seen this one before, and seeing as how Born Slippy is the best known track, it's worth wondering:

Which version is tops?

[Icke]

I like "another dodgy trance mix version" :P

[Geo]

I miss the option for Born Slippy NUXX played live in this poll,
as I don't really like the album version very much.

Anyway, I heard the original BS live in Luxemburg last year, and was completely blown away! So I vote for the original.

But the BS NUXX on Everything Everything is also sooo damn awesome...

[Icke]

I miss the option for Born Slippy NUXX played live in this poll,
as I don't really like the album version very much.

Anyway, I heard the original BS live in Luxemburg last year, and was completely blown away! So I vote for the original.

But the BS NUXX on Everything Everything is also sooo damn awesome...
My ideal NUXX live version would be the Lowlands 2000 intro (those fast pounding drums) and then a recent live version with of .NUXX into NUXX 2003. Love it when the 2003 piano kicks in.

[King of Snake]

Nuxx is fun, but original rules tops

[sanakan]

Nuxx is fun, but original rules tops

no question about that!


btw: what's the "Deep Pan" mix? never heard of that...

[Roytron]

The deep pan mix is on the single.

Best version of BS.

1996 Munich.

[stimpee]

Original is by far the best, then Telematic. NUXX is way back in the distance.

You should all take a listen to the Darren Price Remix (not Mix) though as its completely different. Its not NUXX, its some Darren Price tune masquerading as NUXX and its a marvellous chunk of driving melodic techno.

holden: you really should have put all the officaial mixes here if you were gonna do it properly :)

[gambit]

I love Rick's 2003 12" mix. I don't think I've ever heard the 11 min version of the original NUXX before.

[Roytron]

Eeeek! Where can I obtain the original Born Slippy!

I've heard it live a lot, but I want to hear the studio.

I don't mean NUXX...

[bavarianbeer]

Yeah, the version of "Born Slippy NUXX" that's on Everything, Everything should be on here, as it is an official release in a sense. I always thought that was the best one, although the original version of "Born Slippy" is a close second.

[Lou]

i have to vote for telematic, although for me the whole single is totally awsome :D

that's where you can find the original mix, it's know as the lawnmower or the tractor single, look for it at ebay, it's there often enough.

[beavis14996]

i can't select the best one :)
born slippy .NUXX (darren price remix) [8:09]
born slippy .NUXX (deep pan) [9:58]
born slippy [8:30]
born slippy .TELEMATIC [9:39]

[BeautifulBurnout]

Born Slippy beats Nuxx into a cocked hat.

And hearing it live in Luxemburg was close to one of the most beautiful music moments of my life. :)

[m.g.]

I feel very sorry that i didn't register here before the Luxemburg gig as, apparently, i could have met some of you there... next time, then...

Born Slippy was amazing there, and, for me, is by far the best version.

[gaborez]

original and still the best :)

i agree about the version at lux... fab.

[negative1]

thats a tough choice,
it was hard to choose from
the full 11:37 version and
the original one...however
i liked the darren price mix
also...oh well had to choose
the full version as that was
one of the first songs i heard
from them..

although i do really like the
various live versions also...

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[negative1]

oh, if you're having trouble finding the original,
also look for this reissue of pearl's girl:
Underworld: Pearl's Girl [reissue]
[28 Oct 96] single
CD5: 1996 UK (Junior Boy's Own; JBO 45 CDS2) [new "red car door" ps]
8:11 Pearl's Girl (tin there)
3:53 Puppies
8:57 Born Slippy (extended album version)
---------------

if you want more information about the song,
hmm....i haven't updated it in ages, but here you go:

[info] -> ______uw_born___slippy___f_a_q___01__09__00__v_0.1 ________
http://www.negative1.net/uw/born_slippy/uw_born_slippy_faq.htm

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[joethelion]

hey - you forgot to list the original 9minute-ish version that's on the original single

...and I always thought that one of the Darren Price mixes - I forget which one (not sure if it was the "Mix" or "Remix", was really just a mislabeled mix of Banstyle, you know? I mean - it sounds closer to that track, and all the vocals are from banstyle too...

(edit)
and I always took Deep Pan as really a track in its own right... but was labeled as a remix b/c at the time, it probably was seen to be more eye-catching to have 'remixes' and not bsides

[holden]

Original is by far the best, then Telematic. NUXX is way back in the distance.

You should all take a listen to the Darren Price Remix (not Mix) though as its completely different. Its not NUXX, its some Darren Price tune masquerading as NUXX and its a marvellous chunk of driving melodic techno.

holden: you really should have put all the officaial mixes here if you were gonna do it properly :)

Yeah, maybe i shouldv'e put Pricey's mixes separately, though i'd just listened to the Born Slippy single before doing this, and i can't say they're all that different from NUXX. And then, there are all those other remixers out there...gotta draw the line somewhere. We don't need polls with 25 options now, do we we?;)

i'm surprised at how many folks are digging the original more than NUXX. That's fine...maybe the true fans are sick and tired of NUXX. i was, too, until i heard the whole thing again (none of these weak radio or soundtrack edits. Damn thing's 11:37 and 6-7 minutes is just poundingly good!)

[stimpee]

i'm surprised at how many folks are digging the original more than NUXX. That's fine...maybe the true fans are sick and tired of NUXX. i was, too, until i heard the whole thing again (none of these weak radio or soundtrack edits. Damn thing's 11:37 and 6-7 minutes is just poundingly good!)I'm not surprised at all. NUXX is only famous because it was used on the Trainspotting soundtrack. The original mix was chosen as the single by Underworld at the time because it was the best track and in my opinion (and it seems other people's too) that it still is the best version.

[denkbat]

I like the original in a "Pearl's Girl" sort of way. But it's got nothing in common with NUXX. They're just very different songs... I was surprised when I heard the original and found that it was something completely different. And since it's the NUXX-version that's become "Born Slippy" to me, I have to vote for that.

The original is a good song, but ironically, it's not "Born Sliippy"... They should rename it ;)

[stimpee]

And since it's the NUXX-version that's become "Born Slippy" to me, I have to vote for that.

The original is a good song, but ironically, it's not "Born Sliippy"... They should rename it ;)Boy you sure have some twisted logic. You dont HAVE TO vote for anything. NUXX isnt the only Born Slippy. What you're saying is that because of your ignorance, you have to vote for the most popular (well, outside of this poll) version.

[denkbat]

What you're saying is that because of your ignorance, you have to vote for the most popular (well, outside of this poll) version.I wouldn't call it ignorance... Sure, I got into Underworld a little too late to allow the original "Born Slippy" to be the first for me. But the fact that I've looked for, found and appreciated the original should count for something.

Still, when people say "Born Slippy", it's the NUXX-version I start thinking of. I can't help it, I can't change it, and when you ask me to vote for my favourite version of "Born Slippy", then NUXX is the one.

[stimpee]

denkbat: what i meant was that you seem to be choosing NUXX because you heard it first, and not on the musical qualities of the song.

[King of Snake]

who the f*ck cares anyway ;)

[joethelion]

...but the 11:30 min version is an EXTENDED mix of the original nine-minute-ish version (of NUXX)

seriously - check it out, on the original single (with NUXX as a bside) and then when NUXX was released as a single in its own right, it's even labeled as extended mix

[holden]

...but the 11:30 min version is an EXTENDED mix of the original nine-minute-ish version (of NUXX)

seriously - check it out, on the original single (with NUXX as a bside) and then when NUXX was released as a single in its own right, it's even labeled as extended mix


Woops! i don't have the original record...my Born Slippies are scattered among sources: NUXX, Deep Pan, Edit and Darren Price mixes on the EP,
Telematic from some crappy Dub collection, original in some dj compilations, etc. i shoulda consulted the discog! But like i said, there's so many remixes out there. And remember that the 1992-2002 anthology version is a different length than the Trainspotting mix or the extended version. Anyway, since the EP didn't say anything about "extended mix" on the 11:37 version, i assumed it was the whole deal and others are edited down.

But like it was said above, who cares? They're all great tracks! Just wondered if there were strong feelings one way or another! i love listening to the non-Nuxx versions every now and again to remember how UW used to make drastically different versions of the "same" song (a la Pearls Girl, Dirty Epic and Dark and Long).

[spoonman]

For my part born slippy nuxx is a wonderfull track, my BEST track, but as many people i think that the live version is better than the single one, but The best of the best i think is Born Slippy Nuxx Live @ Glasto 98 ! Wonderfull moments !!!

[negative1]

in case you're looking for a copy of the original cd,
or the rare japanese EP for it..check here:

http://www.dirty.org/forums/showthread.php?p=32197&posted=1#post32197

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[big screen satellite]

you want some Slippy!!! ...

here are all the versions, except live versions (unless released):

(plus some dodgy bootleg ones thrown in, that i know of...)

all available from this list: http://www.bigscreensatellite.co.uk/tracklistings.htm

Born Slippy 8:30 (12" / CD Remix)
Born Slippy 8:57 (Born Slippy original single 'a-side' not NUXX version 12" / CD / 12" Promo)
Born Slippy (Breakz Mix) 5:53 (Unknown Artists Bootleg Version 12" Only)
Born Slippy (Phrenetic Angel Mix) 9:01 (Bootleg Version CD-R Only)(CD-R)
Born Slippy (Fatboy Slim Mix) 2:32 (Right Here Right Now mix as featured on Big Beach Boutique CD)
Born Slippy (CJ Stone Mix) 6:40 (CD-R only)
Born Slippy Telematic 9:39 (Born Slippy original single 'b-side' not NUXX version 12" / CD / 12" Promo)
Born Slippy (Trance Mix 2001) 6:58 (Bootleg Version 12" Only)
Born Slippy (Trance Mix 2003) 6:34 (Bootleg Version 12" Only)
Born Slippy (Tribal Mix 2003) 9:31 (Bootleg Version 12" Only)
Born Slippy (Yves Deruyter Mix) 8:42 (CD-R)
Born Slippy ('Acoustic' Mix) 1:07 (Impromptu version recorded during an interview)
Born Slippy (Video) (CC) 4:27 (Capitol Records Inc Video)
Born Slippy (Tokyo Electraglide Mix) 13:30 (Ministry of Sound Club Classics 2004 Unreleased D/L special mix - not on Club Classics album)
Born Slippy (Brown Acid) (Version 1) 11:25 (Bootleg Version 12" Only)
Born Slippy (Brown Acid) (Version 2) 11:18 (Bootleg Version 12" Only
Born Slippy (aka Drug Boy) 6:17 (Hardcore version on Happy Jams Vol 2 12")
Born Slippy 2003 (Atomic Hooligan Mix) 7:23 (12" / CD)
Born Slippy 2003 (Atomic Hooligan Edit) 3:40 (Cd Promo Only)
Born Slippy 2003 (Radio Edit) 4:01 (Born Slippy single re-release remix CD / 12" / Promo)
Born Slippy 2003 (Paul Oakenfold Mix) 8:15 (Born Slippy single re-release remix CD / 12" / Promo)
Born Slippy 2003 (Paul Oakenfold Edit) 3:43 (Born Slippy single re-release remix Promo Only CD)
Born Slippy 2003 (Karls 'Ode to Cardiff' Mix) 5:40 (Radio 1 special recorded from source to MP3)
Born Slippy 2003 (London Elektricity Mix) 8:20 (Born Slippy single re-release remix CD / 12" / Promo)
Born Slippy 2003 (London Elektricity Edit) 5:03 (Born Slippy single re-release remix Promo Only CD)
Born Slippy 2003 (Rick's 12" Mix) 7:05 (Born Slippy single re-release remix CD / 12" / Promo)
Born Slippy 2003 (Rick's Down Ambient Mix) 4:57 (Born Slippy single re-release remix Promo Only CD)
Born Slippy 2003 (Rick's Edit) 4:04 (Born Slippy single re-release remix CD / 12" / Promo (same as radio edit))
Born Slippy NUXX 11:40 (12" / CD - it does also appear on the Anthology UK Promo CD)
Born Slippy NUXX 9:44 (Trainspotting CD version)
Born Slippy NUXX (NUXX Mix 11:40) same as long version above but called 'NUXX mix' occasionally
Born Slippy NUXX (Live) 10:56 (Everything Everything live version CD)
Born Slippy NUXX 7:33 (Anthology UK / Taiwanese / Argentinean commercial Versions CD & Vinyl)
Born Slippy NUXX (Edit / Short Version) 4:22 (Born Slippy single re-release CD)
Born Slippy NUXX (Short) 3:45 (French Cd single)
Born Slippy NUXX (Darren Price Mix) 6:31 (Born Slippy single 'b-side' remix CD / Vinyl)
Born Slippy NUXX (Darren Price Remix 2) 8:10 (Born Slippy single 'b-side' remix CD / Vinyl )
Born Slippy NUXX (Deep Pan) 9:59 (Born Slippy single 'b-side' remix CD / Vinyl)
Born Slippy NUXX (Fatboy Slim Version) 6:47 (dubious bootleg 12" / CD - played by Fatboy Slim / mixed by him?)
Born Slippy NUXX (Danny Boyles exclusive Trainspotting Edit) 3:58 (Promo VHS Video)
Born Slippy NUXX (Video (in the bath) 4:24 Promo VHS
Born Slippy 2003 (Video - Hula Hoop Version) 3:56 (Unknown Source)
Born Slippy NUXX (Video ) tba (Footwear Repairs VHS)
Born Sloppy (Plump Djs Mix) 6:52 Bootleg Version 12" Only
Born Slippy (Bare Foot) 4:10 (Bare Foot Jazzy Cover Version CD)
Born Sleepy (warb mix) 5:40 (fan mix)
Born Slippy Nuxx (another dodgy trance mix) 5:00
Born Slippy (Carl Cox remix) 4:45
God Born Slippy (Marco V Mash Up) 6:22
Born Slippy (Brainbotkiller Cover) 4:33
Born Slippy (DJ Pedroh Mix) 2:50+
Born Slippy (CSL Mix) 11.57 (fan mix?)
Born Slippy (Dictionaroke Mix) 2:52
Born Slippy 13:40 (Bootleg Babies Version)
Born Slippy NUXX 9:49 (Bootleg Babies Version)
Forget the Girl (Born Slippy) 9:10 (UK) Movin' (House tune sampling Born Slippy)

anyway.. i think Born Slippy sucks ;)

thats why i have this many versions of it... :eek:

[Dirty0900]

You forgot Born Apart, on 65 days of statics Unreleased/Unreleasable Vol 1 EP. Majorly hard to find now.

[holden]

you want some Slippy!!! ...

here are all the versions, except live versions (unless released):

(plus some dodgy bootleg ones thrown in, that i know of...)

all available from this list: http://www.bigscreensatellite.co.uk/tracklistings.htm

...

Yeah, that's a lot of remixes. But i think it's telling that despite everyone and their mum trying their hand at reworking a classic, no one here is voting for these "other peoples remixes". I mean, UW redid it in 2003 probably under some coaxing from management to have a promo single to go with the anthology and also to keep it semi-fresh when played live for the 5,000th time. Maybe it's time to rediscover the alternate versions?!

off-topic but: how about UW re-release "Rez" or "Cowgirl" as a substantially redone version? "Rez" could benefit from a 2006 overhaul?

[big screen satellite]

You forgot Born Apart, on 65 days of statics Unreleased/Unreleasable Vol 1 EP. Majorly hard to find now.

i could do with finding this...

[Dirty0900]

i could do with finding this...

You'd have a hard job finding the hard opy, theres a lot of 65dos fans [me included] wanting it to. I think theres a link to the file somewhere, i'll check it and see if i can get it for you, at least so you can listen to it,

[big screen satellite]

You'd have a hard job finding the hard opy, theres a lot of 65dos fans [me included] wanting it to. I think theres a link to the file somewhere, i'll check it and see if i can get it for you, at least so you can listen to it,

yeah that'd be cool....

i assumed it was a hard find seeing as its as rare as you state

[BeautifulBurnout]

Ha!

This is the first time I have realised that you can click on the number of votes in a poll and see who has voted for them. D'oh

/me slaps herself on forehead

[big screen satellite]

Ha!

This is the first time I have realised that you can click on the number of votes in a poll and see who has voted for them. D'oh

/me slaps herself on forehead

only if the poll setter sets that option you can....

its fun ;)

[Dirty0900]

yeah that'd be cool....

i assumed it was a hard find seeing as its as rare as you state

I've checked their forums for links to it, but there all old and dead:(

Check your favourite p2p or bittorent client, should properly be on their somewhere.

[big screen satellite]

I've checked their forums for links to it, but there all old and dead:(

Check your favourite p2p or bittorent client, should properly be on their somewhere.

thanks i did the same...

funnily enough i looked for 65dostatic gigs, and they are playing in Brighton, on the night of the dirty meet in London, shame i'd have liked to have checked em out...

[IsiliRunite]

Excuse me for being repetitious, but what version was on 92-02? Keep in my it's 7:34.

[big screen satellite]

Excuse me for being repetitious, but what version was on 92-02? Keep in my it's 7:34.


depends on which version of 92-02 you have....the basic commercial CD's all had the 7:34 mix, but the UK promo had different length mix, the 11:40 version appears on the UK promo...for some reason...

[IsiliRunite]

I have the commercial, I presume. I have NUXX full length, I was just curious how I got another, too.

[Icke]

Not really related, but not worth an own thread either;

A Dutch (evening) paper, NRC Handelsblad launched a new morning edition under the name "NRC.next" , reminded me of .NUXX :) .

[bryantm3]

i heard NUXX first, and i thought it was awful and annoying. then i heard the original, and i thought, "wow, this is way better. why did that crappy remix become a hit?"

i still think the lyrics might be "nigger nigger white thing" cos mabye they were trying to come up with some way to insult white people, but they couldn't. and if you're drunk, you can't control your actions and you see everyone else as being wrong, so nigger nigger white thing makes more sense to me than mega mega white thing. maybe they just said that it was mega so that people wouldn't think they were being racist. which even if my theory is right, they're not, they're just showing how if you're a drunk you hate the world.

[BeautifulBurnout]

i still think the lyrics might be "nigger nigger white thing" cos mabye they were trying to come up with some way to insult white people, but they couldn't. and if you're drunk, you can't control your actions and you see everyone else as being wrong, so nigger nigger white thing makes more sense to me than mega mega white thing. maybe they just said that it was mega so that people wouldn't think they were being racist. which even if my theory is right, they're not, they're just showing how if you're a drunk you hate the world.

Whatever YOU may think, you are totally, utterly wrong, extraordinarily offensive and, frankly, the first person I have ever heard even allude to this potential interpretation. It may be normal for YOU to use offensive language like this when you are drunk, but that is your problem.

[big screen satellite]

wow that is fucked up....

there is no way, even listening closely, that it sounds like 'nigger'...its so obviously 'mega', that i'm quite shocked that you came to this conclusion...

and why would 'nigger nigger white thing' make any more sense than 'mega mega white thing'...??

i'm so confused at this whole reasoning...?? it really makes no sense in the scheme of the song

[stimpee]

i still think the lyrics might be "nigger nigger white thing" cos mabye they were trying to come up with some way to insult white people, but they couldn't. and i think youre full of shit. now go and get your ears cleaned out, and while youre at it, your mouth and your mind.

[Scott Warner]

The original track with that breakbeat only possible via an Underworld composition is easily my favorite thing they've ever recorded.

[Leon]

i heard NUXX first, and i thought it was awful and annoying. then i heard the original, and i thought, "wow, this is way better. why did that crappy remix become a hit?"

i still think the lyrics might be "nigger nigger white thing" cos mabye they were trying to come up with some way to insult white people, but they couldn't. and if you're drunk, you can't control your actions and you see everyone else as being wrong, so nigger nigger white thing makes more sense to me than mega mega white thing. maybe they just said that it was mega so that people wouldn't think they were being racist. which even if my theory is right, they're not, they're just showing how if you're a drunk you hate the world.

You should do another poll man.

[TheBang]

Well, I have to relate that I have had TWO friends that have separately thought that the lyrics were "nigger nigger white boy." When they sang their incorrect lyrics along with the song while I was playing it, I had to correct them, while incredulously laughing at their mistake.

So, while I have always heard it correctly as "mega mega white thing," apparently it is not uncommon to hear something else.

http://www.amiright.com/misheard/artist/underworld.shtml

[holden]

(Offtopic)
Misheard Lyrics:
"You've been lied to, you've been lied to"
Original Lyrics:
"You bring light in, you bring light in"

This is true! My father heard Two Months Off and thought he was being "lied to"!


Back to NUXX:
Thisthread is the first i've ever heard of confusion regarding the mega mega part of Born Slippy. I just don't understand how that could even cross one's mind, though. It's sad, really.

[change]

I often get the feeling that some people are fishing for a response from UW via the daily updates.

[bryantm3]

I often get the feeling that some people are fishing for a response from UW via the daily updates.
i'm trying to do that with the mellotron thread.

but seriously, though, don't get all riled up. it just makes sense to me, that when you're drunk and your friends are trying to tell you to stop, you might say something like 'shut up you crazy nigger' or 'i'm gonna beat the shit outta you, mick', and maybe what the song is saying is that drunkenness brings out the bad in us, and brings out hatred. y'all think i'm trying to be racist, but i'm really not. it's just an interpretation.
but what i can't figure out is why black people can call white people honky, and white people that know each other can call each other honky, and black people that know each other can call each other niggers, but even if your best friend is black, and you're white, and you say 'word up nigger', then it's politically incorrect. my opinion is, that race doesn't really matter. what happened with racism and all the terrible things, is mostly in the past. to me, race is just another thing like gender, religion, etc. ie: how come you can call a girl ho when you're teasing her? we should either have it all one way or all another. i'd be fine if it was politically incorrect to call anyone ANY names, to prevent someone from getting their feelings hurt. but on the same token, i think that it's actually more racist against blacks to say that you can't tease your best friend, whilest you can tease your best friend that's chinese, or turkish, or polish, etc.

[BeautifulBurnout]

but seriously, though, don't get all riled up. it just makes sense to me, that when you're drunk and your friends are trying to tell you to stop, you might say something like 'shut up you crazy nigger' or 'i'm gonna beat the shit outta you, mick', and maybe what the song is saying is that drunkenness brings out the bad in us, and brings out hatred. y'all think i'm trying to be racist, but i'm really not. it's just an interpretation.
but what i can't figure out is why black people can call white people honky, and white people that know each other can call each other honky, and black people that know each other can call each other niggers, but even if your best friend is black, and you're white, and you say 'word up nigger', then it's politically incorrect. my opinion is, that race doesn't really matter. what happened with racism and all the terrible things, is mostly in the past. to me, race is just another thing like gender, religion, etc. ie: how come you can call a girl ho when you're teasing her? we should either have it all one way or all another. i'd be fine if it was politically incorrect to call anyone ANY names, to prevent someone from getting their feelings hurt. but on the same token, i think that it's actually more racist against blacks to say that you can't tease your best friend, whilest you can tease your best friend that's chinese, or turkish, or polish, etc.

Maybe it is a question of education and upbringing. My son doesn't even know what those words mean and it would never occur to him to refer to someone's race as a way of insulting him. This is because he has been brought up to transcend and ultimately respect difference, cultural, racial or otherwise. I believe Rick and Karl share those values too. Which is why I believe that, whatever you THINK you might hear, (or perhaps, even, WANT to hear in order to justify your skewed view of the things "people" might say when drunk), you are totally wrong. And yes, I still think you are being offensive. What you and your best friend say to one another is one thing. What you post on a public internet forum is quite another.

[gaborez]

...and you can stick your pointless opinions up your mellotron :eek: