Numbers/The River Run Project

[undarrenworld]

What does these numbers mean?

Lovely_Broken_Thing_{221068}

221068


Anyone?:confused: :)

[sanakan]

i think it's just an id of the (external) webshop solution "da management" used.
check http://www.mppglobal.com/
(also check the "casestudies" section ;) )

[undarrenworld]

Oh I see, so the times of JBO 29R is over...:(

[sanakan]

no, they definitly are on JBO no more!
but i doubt that mpp thing counts as a label...


much more interesting:
following todays UWlive link to the electraglide page, i found this (http://www.electraglide.info/en_html/news/uw.html) (also a nice picture ;) )
Underworld
The Riverrun Project
'lovely broken thing' available globally online
- 10th November 2005
Label - www.underworldlive.com
Catalogue numbers - UWR-0500003-1
Download exclusively from: www.underworldlive.com
Price - £5 per package
so far so good: seems like they possibly called their new label "underworld records" or something - notice the catalogue number...

surfing on to the info about the 3h-recording (http://www.electraglide.info/en_html/news/uw2.html):
Artist: Underworld
Title: Live in Tokyo November 25th 2005
Cat. No: UWR-0500007-3
Price: 3,000 yen (w/tax)
so, where are UWR 1,2 and 4 to 6?
already done and waiting on aNts computer? ;)

[undarrenworld]

When Tongy played Electronic part 1 (JAL to Tokyo), there was Underworld label in tracklisting.


Called:

Sunday Club


http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/dance/petetong/pete_tong_archive.shtml?20051104



But here it written that its management.


http://www.thesundayclub.com/tsc/music.html

The Orb are on Michael Mayer`s Kompakt
Where will be Undie?

[big screen satellite]

its quite possible that UW's Management sent out this promos to Pete Tong, with an accompanting 'sticker' or something and as such he assumed it was from a label, rather than the management name...this often happens with promo's being distributed by various sources, and sometimes unlabelled promos get 'written down' as being on the promotors 'label'...

but currently Sunday Club is the management of UW, as you pointed out, and until someone official says so, i think these releases will be on UW's own UWR label, whatever that may officially be called...

[mmm skyscraper]

so, where are UWR 1,2 and 4 to 6?


UWR-0500004-1 is the number for 'Pizza for Eggs'.

The 1 must mean it's one 'disc' as opposed to the 3 in the Electraglide live cat. number.

[xolbe2]

If they're counting the Electraglide discs as a release, then could numbers 1 & 2 possibly be the Sophia and Benicassim gigs that they're dribbling to us, slowly but surely.
Infers that they also know what release 5 & 6 are gonna be ahead of time, i.e. they're almost ready and waiting ...

Neat.

[dubman]

If they're counting the Electraglide discs as a release, then could numbers 1 & 2 possibly be the Sophia and Benicassim gigs that they're dribbling to us, slowly but surely.
Infers that they also know what release 5 & 6 are gonna be ahead of time, i.e. they're almost ready and waiting ...

Neat.

whoa, there.

if, and IF these are catalogue numbers that run to 6, it doesnt make any sense to lump the live gigs (which they've released online before) into the riverrun project. electraglide, maybe, since it's an exclusive and i can imagine some live element playing into it.

but as far as the two gigs for download goes, this is just picking up where fuji left off.

but guess what, we dont really know anything.

[big screen satellite]

well what uysually happens with loads of releases on record catalogues is that the label sets out to release stuff from say 001 to 010...in the first instance.

it then assigns numbers to specific releases, perhaps well in advance of them being actually ready...or even leaves a specific number out because its for a special release....

Underwater records are a good case in point for this:

Emerson the owner of the label sidelined release H2O 050 for his own track, which didn't come out until after later releases such as 052, 054 & 057

and they are currently up to release H2O 073 in terms of numbers but there have not been 064 or 065 released yet...

its simple cataloging which Tony Wilson at Factory records was a genius at, and it may be something similar with Underworld (and their new? label) or may in fact be nothing...

i think you kinda need three releases for it to statistically be a trend...lets wait 'n' see :)

[Pappie]

Hey,

I was just wondering about the two new releases.
Lovely Broken Thing and Pizza for Eggs.

They both are numbered as follows:

Lovely Broken Thing : theriverrun03
Pizza for Eggs : theriverrun04

what happend to 01 and 02 ???????

Anybody knows ?
Somebody must know.
Where is this somebody?
Will he tell everybody ?


Pappie

[Jan]

those numbers are dates:D (riverrun03 --> riverrun2003)

[big screen satellite]

Hey Pappie

we're kinda discussing that and other numbers here:

http://www.dirty.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1771

[stimpee]

threads merged.

[the real stuff]

maybe they are dates, maybe they're not? I guess we'll know for sure when riverrun06 and 07 comes out.. ;)

[botkiller]

just like anything else, I think it's just cataloging, keeping track of things somehow. Also, when you buy the EP's you'll notice that it says that they are tagged with your info, so it could be user info, stuff like that.

just my thought.

[TheBang]

So, by my reckoning, so far we have:

UWR-00001 - ???
UWR-00002 - ???
UWR-0500003-1 - Lovely Broken Thing
UWR-0500004-1 - Pizza for Eggs
UWR-00005 - ???JAL to Tokyo (iTunes single)???
UWR-00006 - ???JAL to Tokyo (iTunes EP)???
UWR-0500007-3 - Live in Tokyo 2005
UWR008 - JAL to Tokyo 12"
UWR009 - Vanilla Monkey 12"
UWR010 - Play Pig (Buick Project Remix) 12"
UWR011 - Play Pig (Pig + Dan Remix) 12"
UWR012 - Peggy Sussed 12"
UWR-0600013-1 - I'm a Big Sister...
UWR-0600014-1 - The Misterons Mix

Edit: Updated with vinyl releases

[big screen satellite]

So, by my reckoning, so far we have:

UWR-00001 - ???
UWR-00002 - ???
UWR-0500003-1 - Lovely Broken Thing
UWR-0500004-1 - Pizza for Eggs
UWR-00005 - ???
UWR-00006 - ???
UWR-0500007-3 - Live in Tokyo 2005
UWR008 - JAL to Tokyo 12"
UWR-0600009-4 - Vanilla Monkey 12"
UWR010 - Play Pig (Buick Project Remix) 12"
UWR011 - Play Pig (Pig + Dan Remix) 12"
UWR012 - Peggy Sussed 12"
UWR-0600013-1 - I'm a Big Sister...
UWR-0600014-1 - The Misterons Mix


thats how i see it, although i think that the Japan ITunes release of JAL would take one of the '???' numbers...

and i also think for ease of cataloging all the numbers will revert to:

'UWR-0600010-4' or whatever, rather than just 'UWR010'

also i wonder what the '-4' stands for on Vanilla Monkey 12", as i assumed the '-3' on Tokyo was for three discs, and the '-1' on the other release meant just one download, unless '-4' means 12"


still at least we have some kind of system in place :)

[TheBang]

thats how i see it, although i think that the Japan ITunes release of JAL would take one of the '???' numbers...
Yeah, I suspect so too. I looked everywhere though, and couldn't find a catalog number hidden anywhere. Also, I think the "JAL to Tokyo single" on iTunes and "JAL to Tokyo EP" on iTunes are actually 2 distinct releases. Note the different release dates for the two. So, they could conceivably be 001 and 002, or 005 and 006 (most likely 5 and 6, based on release dates).

Ooh, I also just remembered that in the ID3 tags, LBT and PFE are tracks 1 and 2, and IBS and TMM are tracks 5 and 6. So tracks 3 and 4 could be the missing 001 and 002.

and i also think for ease of cataloging all the numbers will revert to:

'UWR-0600010-4' or whatever, rather than just 'UWR010'
Yeah, I would imagine so. I just used what they had listed on the HMV site, for lack of being able to read the text on the images, aside from Vanilla Monkey. I'm sure they'll have proper numbers once we can actually read them.

[Flywaver]

Nah you got it all wrong! Its an idea formed out of Trainspotting!
Download them and collect them and tick the numbers off!
Incidently i am a Train Driver and i drove UWR-00002 Dark Train LOL :D

[TheBang]

Updated:

UWR-00001 - ???
UWR-00002 - ???
UWR-0500003-1 - Lovely Broken Thing
UWR-0500004-1 - Pizza for Eggs
UWR-00005 - ??? (JAL to Tokyo (iTunes single)???)
UWR-00006 - ??? (JAL to Tokyo (iTunes EP)???)
UWR-0500007-3 - Live in Tokyo 2005 3xCD
UWR-0600008-4 - JAL to Tokyo 12"
UWR-0600009-4 - Vanilla Monkey 12"
UWR-0600010-4 - Play Pig (Buick Project Remix) 12"
UWR-0600011-4 - Play Pig (Pig & Dan Remix) 12"
UWR-0600012-4 - Peggy Sussed 12"
UWR-0600013-1 - I'm a Big Sister...
UWR-0600014-1 - The Misterons Mix
UWR-00015-3 - Oblivion with Bells CD advance promo (watermarked)
UWR-00016 - Crocodile 12" (UK Promo - A1 Pete Heller Rmx, B1 Oliver Huntemann Rmx)
UWR-00017-1a - Oblivion with Bells Beatport download
UWR-00017-3 - Oblivion with Bells CD
UWR-00017-4 - Oblivion with Bells 2xLP
UWR-00017-5 - Oblivion with Bells CD+DVD
UWR-00018 - ???
UWR-000019-1c - Crocodile 6-track Beatport download
UWR-000019-3 - Crocodile CD
UWR-000019-4 - Crocodile 12" (Part 1)
UWR-000019-4A - Crocodile 12" (Part 2)
UWR-000019-8 - Crocodile 1-track Beatport download
UWR-00020-1C - Beautiful Burnout 5-track Beatport download
UWR-00020-4A - Beautiful Burnout 12" (Part 1)
UWR-00020-4B - Beautiful Burnout 12" (Part 2)
UWR-00021-1B - Ring Road 6-track Beatport download
UWR-00021-3 - Ring Road promo CD (PIAS) - retail release with this cat. number was Cancelled
UWR-00021-4 - Ring Road 12"
UWR-0800022b - Live from Brixton Academy, 31st October 2008 pre-order bonus MP3 download
UWR-0800023b - Live @ Brixton Academy 01/11/2008 pre-order bonus MP3 download
UWR-0800024 - Phonestrap WAV download
UWR-0800024 - Holding the Moth download
UWR-0800025 - Phonestrap MP3 download
UWR-0800026 - 020202 WAV download
UWR-0800027 - 020202 MP3 download
UWR-00028 - ???
UWR-00029 - ???
UWR-00030 - ???
UWR-00031P - Scribble 4-track Promo CD
UWR-00031-1 - Scribble 12" (Netsky/Album)
UWR-00031-9 - Scribble 3-track digital download
UWR-00032P - Barking CD advance promo (watermarked)
UWR-00032-1 - Barking 2xLP
UWR-00032-2 - Barking Standard Edition CD
UWR-00032-5 - Barking Deluxe Edition (CD+DVD)
UWR-00032-5 PROMO - Barking Deluxe Edition Promo (identical to retail)
UWR-00032-6 - Barking Limited Edition (2CD+DVD)
UWR-00033 - ???
UWR-00034 - ???
UWR-00035-CDR - Always Loved a Film 2-track promo CD-R
UWR-00035-P - Always Loved a Film 5-track promo CD
UWR-00035-PX - Always Loved a Film 3-track promo CD
UWR-00035-PXX - Always Loved a Film 8-track promo CD
UWR-00035-4 - Always Loved a Film 6-track digital download
UWR-00035-8 - Always Loved a Film 6-track digital download (identical to -4)
UWR-00035-9 - Always Loved a Film (The French Remixes) 7-track promo CD
UWR-00036-P - Bird 1 10-track promo CD
UWR-00036-P - Bird 1 3-track promo CD
UWR-00036-4 - Bird 1 10-track digital download
UWR-00037-4 - Diamond Jigsaw 3-track digital download
UWR-00037-4P - Diamond Jigsaw 5-track promo CD (incl. Invisible remixes)
UWR-00038 - ???
UWR-00039 - ???
UWR-00040-3 - Frankenstein CD
UWR-00041 - ???
UWR-00042-1 - 1992-2012 The Anthology 25-track download
UWR-00042-2 - 1992-2012 The Anthology 3xCD (US release)
UWR-00042-4 - 1992-2012 The Anthology 3xCD (UK/EU release)
UWR-00042-4P - 1992-2012 The Anthology 3xCD Promo
UWR-00043-1 - 1992-2012 The Anthology (Bonus Material) 9-track download
UWR-00044-1 - A Collection 16-track download
UWR-00044-2 - A Collection CD
UWR-00045 - ???
UWR-00046 - ???
UWR-00047 - ???
UWR-00048 - ???
UWR-00049 - ???
UWR-00050 - ???
uwr00051 - STITI 4-disc Super Deluxe Box
uwr00052 - STITI 2-disc Deluxe Edition CD
uwr00053 - STITI 1-disc remastered CD
uwr00054 - STITI 2x LP remastered
UWR-00055 - ???
UWR-00056 - ???
UWR-00057 - ???
UWR-00058 - ???
UWR-00059 - ???
UWR-00060 - ???
UWR00061 - Barbara Barbara CD
UWR00062 - Barbara Barbara LP
UWR-00063 - ???
UWR00064 - Barbara Barbara Book Edition
UWR00065 - Barbara Barbara Special Edition Box Set
UWR-00066 - ???
UWR-00067 - ???
UWR00068 - I Exhale 2-track promo CD
UWR00068 P - I Exhale 4-track promo CD-R
UWR00068 - If Rah 4-track promo CD
UWR-00069 - ???
UWR-00070 - ???
UWR-00071 - ???
UWR-00072 - Beaucoup Fish 1-disc remastered CD
UWR-00073 - Beaucoup Fish 2x LP remastered
UWR-00074 - Beaucoup Fish 4-disc Super Deluxe Box
UWR-00075 - ???
UWR-00076 - ???
UWR-00077 - Nylon Strung 5-track promo CD
UWR-00078
UWR-00079
UWR-00080
UWR-00081
UWR-00082 - Ova Nova 5-track promo CD
UWR00083 - Long Slow Slippy / Everything But limited 12"
UWR00084 - Brilliant Yes That Would Be 1-track download
UWR00085 - Drift Series 1 Sampler Edition CD
UWR00086 - Drift Series 1 Sampler Edition black vinyl double LP
UWR00087 - Drift Series 1 box set (7CD+1BD)
UWR00088
UWR00089 - Drift Series 1 Sampler Edition coloured vinyl double LP limited edition
UWR00090 - Drift Series 1 Complete box set (8CD+1BD)
UWR00091 - Drift Series 1 Complete digital (non-Bandcamp, no Sampler Edition included)
UWR00091 - Cowgirl Limited Edition 2021




UWIP001 - Teatime Dub Encounters CD
UWIP002 - Teatime Dub Encounters black vinyl
UWIP002X - Teatime Dub Encounters limited edition clear vinyl
UWIP004 - Teatime Dub Encounters 5-track Japan download


A pattern has emerged where a trailing -1 seems to indicate a digital download, -3 a CD, and -4 a vinyl.

UWRLIVECD-001 - Southampton Guildhall. England 8.10.2007 - Unreleased
UWRLIVECD-002 - Birmingham Academy. England 9.10.2007
UWRLIVECD-003 - Glasgow Academy. Scotland 13.10.2007
UWRLIVECD-004 - Manchester Apollo. England 16.10.2007
UWRLIVECD-005 - London Roundhouse. England 17.10.2007
UWRLIVECD-006 - London Roundhouse. England 18.10.2007
UWRLIVECD-007 - London Roundhouse. England 29.02.2008 - Rescheduled from 19.10.2007
UWRLIVECD-008 - Frankfurt Cocoon. Germany 1.11.2007 - Cancelled
UWRLIVECD-009 - Berlin Columbiahalle. Germany 3.11.2007 - Cancelled
UWRLIVECD-010 - Rotterdamn Maassilo. Holland 29.01.2008 - Rescheduled from 5.11.2007
UWRLIVECD-011 - Köln Paladium. Germany 28.01.2008 - Rescheduled from 6.11.2007
UWRLIVECD-012 - Amsterdam Heineken Music Hall. Holland 30.01.2008 - Rescheduled from 9.11.2007
UWRLIVECD-013 - Ancienne Belgique, Brussels. Belgium 31.01.2008 - Rescheduled from "I Love Techno, Gent. Belgium 10.11.2007"
UWRLIVECD-013 - Live at The Oblivion Ball, Makuhari Messe, Tokyo, Japan 24.11.2007
UWRLIVECD-014 - London Roundhouse. England 28.02.2008
UWRLIVECD-015 - Brixton Academy, London, England. 31.10.2008
UWRLIVECD-016 - Brixton Academy, London, England. 01.11.2008

[negative1]

do you think there are numbers for these?

underworld tour book
underworld cd/dvd t shirt package (maybe the shirt?)

where was the urlivecd-001 allocation listed?

later
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[Jan]

http://www.underworldlive.com/liverecordings

Look at the picture.

I wonder if they are still going to record the postponed gigs.

[TheBang]

do you think there are numbers for these?

underworld tour book
underworld cd/dvd t shirt package (maybe the shirt?)

I doubt it.

I wonder if they are still going to record the postponed gigs.
Maybe. They're probably going to have to throw out all the packaging they printed up though, cause the dates are all wrong. I wonder if they'll recycle the catalog numbers, or just skip on to the next ones.

I made an inquiry about the Southampton show, but didn't get a reponse. I suspect that something went wrong with the recording that night (first show, and all), and so they weren't able to release that one.

[thee carp dreamer]

I doubt it.

why not? i mean, sabres of paradise records left out cat numbers for their t-shirts and stuff....

[mmm skyscraper]

UWR-00021-3 - Ring Road

[negative1]

Updated:

UWR-00042-2 - Anthology 1992-2012 3-CD
UWR-00043 - ???
UWR-00044-2 - Collection CD

A pattern has emerged where a trailing -1 seems to indicate a digital download, -3 a CD, and -4 a vinyl.


are there new numbers for the digital
downloads...


Last edited by TheBang; 12-10-2008 at 04:21 AM.
are you psychic? or did you just update this,
and the time stamp didn't change?

later
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[TheBang]

are there new numbers for the digital
downloads...
Those are the hardest ones to track, cause they're rarely included or referenced anywhere on the downloads, so I can only list those when I come across a reference.

As for those trailing numbers, they followed that pattern initially, but they've been inconsistent since then in their usage.

are you psychic? or did you just update this,
and the time stamp didn't change?
You've discovered my Delorean! :eek:

Because I'm an admin, the board doesn't show my edits unless I fill in the Reason, which I'm usually too lazy to do.

[negative1]

You've discovered my Delorean! :eek:

Because I'm an admin, the board doesn't show my edits unless I fill in the Reason, which I'm usually too lazy to do.

makes sense.

well, the post didn't get bumped.

it was buried 3 years ago.
i've had to go back through all
the posts from the beginning when
i found it.

later
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[Tendinha]

[UWR-000019-1c - Crocodile 6-track Beatport download
UWR-000019-3 - Crocodile CD
UWR-000019-4 - Crocodile 12" (Part 1)
UWR-000019-4A - Crocodile 12" (Part 2)
UWR-000019-8 - Crocodile 1-track Beatport download
UWR-00020-1C - Beautiful Burnout 5-track Beatport download
UWR-00020-4A - Beautiful Burnout 12" (Part 1)
UWR-00020-4B - Beautiful Burnout 12" (Part 2)
UWR-00021-1B - Ring Road 6-track Beatport download
UWR-00021-3 - Ring Road CD - Cancelled
UWR-00021-4 - Ring Road 12"


Why is there a "cancelled" on the Ring Road Cd?

The pias promo cd for Ring Road as a reference to that Code number.
( Copyright... licensed to Traffic, Japan; Side One Recordings to USA, Canada and Mexico and PIAS for the rest of the world excluding UK and Ireland UWR000213)

[TheBang]

Why is there a "cancelled" on the Ring Road Cd?

The pias promo cd for Ring Road as a reference to that Code number.
( Copyright... licensed to Traffic, Japan; Side One Recordings to USA, Canada and Mexico and PIAS for the rest of the world excluding UK and Ireland UWR000213)
There was originally planned to be a retail CD release of the single with that catalog number:

http://kwiebusch.blogspot.com/2008/05/ring-road-release-details.html

But then it was shelved. Most of the OwB promos that came out did not have catalog numbers (unlike the Barking promos). However, I am aware of this PIAS promo you're talking about, but have not actually seen one. This is the one with actual cover art for the promo, right? If you have any photos of it and/or can add information about it to Discogs (I think it might be this one (http://www.discogs.com/Underworld-Ring-Road/release/1405579)?), it would be much appreciated.

[negative1]

Updated:

UWRLIVECD-013 - Ancienne Belgique, Brussels. Belgium 31.01.2008 - Rescheduled from "I Love Techno, Gent. Belgium 10.11.2007"
UWRLIVECD-013 - Live at The Oblivion Ball, Makuhari Messe, Tokyo, Japan 24.11.2007


ok, digging up an old thread.

but i just noticed that, in fact, i'm just getting around
to listening to all these now.

so, both of these have the same catalog number.

checked discogs also which had the same,
i think the tokyo show had another number to distinguish it.

ok, well thats confusing.

later
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[TheBang]

They made a mistake and basically assigned the same catalog number twice.

The Oblivion Ball one does have a Traffic catalog number too though, since it was officially released on that label.

[TheBang]

I just noticed that we've got new UWR catalog numbers on the STITI remaster releases. I've updated the list on page 3 to reflect this.

[markreed]

The catalogue number for Tokyo on Target is TRCI3-4.

I'm very pleased these live sets were released ; it was the time when the band had the broadest collection of material and were still in their 'improv' years, albeit not as wildly as the 1994-1999 period.

[TheBang]

I can no longer edit the post on page 3, so I'll have to continue the number list from here:

UWR00092 - Two Months Off (Limited Edition 2021) 12"
UWR00093 - Dark & Long 3 12"
UWR00094 - Juanita 2022 12"
UWR00095 - And I Will Kiss / Caliban's Dream 12"
UWR00096 - and the colour red 12"
UWR00097 - denver luna 12"
UWR00098LP - Strawberry Hotel 2xLP
UWR00098CD - Strawberry Hotel CD
UWR00099LP - dubnobasswithmyheadman 2xLP The Catalogue Collection
UWR00099CD - dubnobasswithmyheadman CD The Catalogue Collection
UWR00100LP - Second Toughest in the Infants 2xLP The Catalogue Collection
UWR00100CD - Second Toughest in the Infants CD The Catalogue Collection
UWR00101LP - Beaucoup Fish 2xLP The Catalogue Collection
UWR00101CD - Beaucoup Fish CD The Catalogue Collection
UWR00102LP - A Hundred Days Off 2xLP The Catalogue Collection
UWR00102CD - A Hundred Days Off CD The Catalogue Collection
UWR00103LP - Oblivion with Bells 2xLP The Catalogue Collection
UWR00103CD - Oblivion with Bells CD The Catalogue Collection
UWR00104LP - Barking 2xLP The Catalogue Collection
UWR00104CD - Barking CD The Catalogue Collection
UWR00105LP - Barbara Barbara We Face a Shining Future LP The Catalogue Collection
UWR00105CD - Barbara Barbara We Face a Shining Future CD The Catalogue Collection

[negative1]

I was searching for this list.

But it doesn't show the current date.
I was wondering about the updates.

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[TheBang]

But it doesn't show the current date.
I was wondering about the updates.
As an admin, it doesn't show or track posts' edit information if I don't add an Edit comment, which I don't always do, which is why Denver Luna appears in the list above, but it looks like the post hasn't been edited since March.