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negative1
05-09-2019, 11:29 AM
https://i.imgur.com/68ccoR2.jpg

Taken from the archive - a boundless and insistent version of Second Toughest’s Airtowel that turns the original inside out and back again over ten transcendental minutes.

Very cool download.

Listening now.

later
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joethelion
05-09-2019, 11:41 AM
Yeah, pretty cool! Just started listening a few moments ago...

I think this is the same performance / jam as from "Lemonworld Jam, 2000" - except that one faded out at 8:54, and was low bit-rate, so this is a definite improvement!

potatobroth
05-09-2019, 11:53 AM
ah thats it. i knew i've heard this before but couldn't place where. cool.

iamneorev
05-09-2019, 12:09 PM
So is this one of the first times they let one of these in between rarities out as a free download?!?!

stargurl
05-09-2019, 12:21 PM
My husband thinks this was previously released on underworldlive.com circa 2006.

Love it, already played very loudly a couple times!

joethelion
05-09-2019, 12:25 PM
So is this one of the first times they let one of these in between rarities out as a free download?!?!

Yup, this is the fourth rarity that's been made available to download:

Small Conker And A Twix
Twist (Music Bank Jam Take 7)
Are You Rockstar
Airtowel A2778 Live Jam for Web Dec 2000

khouri
05-09-2019, 01:12 PM
I've always thought this was a mashup with the original Born Slippy. Pretty sure some of the BS percussion is in there.

dubman
05-09-2019, 02:22 PM
if this is what I think it is...

Narrator: it was
--

well, at least it's high quality. let's have ref.010101 while we're at it

dubman
05-09-2019, 02:28 PM
My husband thinks this was previously released on underworldlive.com circa 2006.

Love it, already played very loudly a couple times!

in 2002 (?), yeah

along with
ref. 010101 (unreleased)
010601 (alt stagger)
110501 (ansum edit)
180501 (unreleased)
200401 (mama beat)
250501 (alt thing in a book)
Mama nuxx jam
mmm sky jam
oich oich jam
vocoder monks
king of snake (sept 97)
kippers (for those willing to rip the homepage audio)

but mostly in 128/160 quality

negative1
05-09-2019, 03:03 PM
Yeah, pretty cool! Just started listening a few moments ago...

I think this is the same performance / jam as from "Lemonworld Jam, 2000" - except that one faded out at 8:54, and was low bit-rate, so this is a definite improvement!

yes, the transition starts happening around that point which is still
in unmixed form here.

later
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TheBang
05-09-2019, 03:46 PM
Yes, this is the same as Air Towel Jam, but it's . . . different. Not significantly so, but it's weird that what we got in 2002 was apparently edited.

In this new download, it contains sections that were excised from what was previously released.

0:13-0:42 on the new one were chopped at 0:13 on the old one.
2:48-3:01 on the new were chopped at 2:17 on the old one.
8:59-9:06 on the new one were chopped at 8:05 on the old one
And then the new one continues on for about 25 seconds longer at the end.

The last two edits, I can see that they were done because of mistakes made, but I don't know why they'd want to remove that, as that's all part of the live performance/experience. I don't know why they did the first edit which removed some percussion stuff.

The other weird thing is that while doing A-B comparisons, I couldn't shake the feeling that they were at different tempos. I threw them into a BPM analyzer and the old file came back at 140 BPM, and the new one at 137 BPM. I can only imagine that this is due to some analog tape playback speed issue, and I don't know which one would be right.

I've always thought this was a mashup with the original Born Slippy. Pretty sure some of the BS percussion is in there.
Absolutely. Elements of Born Slippy (some of them "live version"-only) are used throughout. I always imagined that this transitioned into a full-on performance of Born Slippy, but based on the extended ending on this new file, it sounds like it might've just petered out.

let's have ref.010101 while we're at it
Also known as Rope. I'm a bit surprised we didn't get that in the Beaucoup Fish boxset, as it was played out live during that era. Maybe the AHDO box set?

joethelion
05-09-2019, 04:09 PM
180501 (unreleased)

...Is that "Unruly July ("I've Been to Every Underworld Gig")"?

I don't have a file with '180501' included in the title / info...

2:55 long track, with a hip-hop-ish beat...

but back to Airtowel... maybe the edits were made back then because they weren't totally sure how & if the jam was going to be released?

Like, I could see UW making the edits, with the thought that the 'cleaned up' songs were going to be pressed to disc... then changing their minds & just offering them as downloads, along with all the other UWLive stuff...

dubman
05-09-2019, 04:32 PM
...Is that "Unruly July ("I've Been to Every Underworld Gig")"?

I don't have a file with '180501' included in the title / info...

2:55 long track, with a hip-hop-ish beat...



that's the one

joethelion
05-09-2019, 04:37 PM
that's the one

Phew! Okay, I was worried for a second that I was missing something

dubman
05-09-2019, 05:23 PM
i wrote down the list i had just in case i was missing one ;)

khouri
05-09-2019, 07:06 PM
I'm just missing Kippers, it was accidentally deleted in an old iTunes cleanup. Would love to have it back if anyone would care to send it!

dubnobasswithme
05-09-2019, 07:35 PM
Love having this track back on my hard drive. Having it at 320kb/sec is icing on the cake :D

holden
05-09-2019, 07:48 PM
I've always been a fan of "Air Towel", and this jam in particular.

Thanks to The Bang for the detailed side by side comparison. So, even though this isn't new for some, at least it's a little different and better Sonic quality.

If Rick and Karl are delving into the vaults, how about some Cappe Ffuno? It's for me what Five Points is to other old skool dirts!

taotsu
05-10-2019, 07:41 PM
I really do not care for the cover, but I love this version. I would really really love to have an archive release! But happy to have this version in a good quality

negative1
05-11-2019, 04:52 PM
I really do not care for the cover, but I love this version. I would really really love to have an archive release! But happy to have this version in a good quality

why, is it too literal. i thought the air towel fits it perfectly.

later
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taotsu
05-11-2019, 06:38 PM
I know, but I just don’t care much for public toilets.