If Rah

[BishBash]

There's a video now. The edit's not bad actually. Zips along.
http://vevo.ly/sorpWz

[King of Snake]

I get an *oops cannot stream* ... kind of message.

edit: it seems to work from here:
http://pitchfork.com/news/64569-underworld-share-if-rah-video-watch/

[TheBang]

Available on YouTube now too:

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[Mike]

This is a song that divides opinion, so I am disappointed that there isn't a more inspiring video.

I have warmed to the album art after seeing more interpretations through prints and posters, and there is an accompanying video which is used in this promo that wish would be utilised in a video.

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[TheBang]

There is an If Rah video that Tomato did in advance of the O exhibition that incorporates those visuals. They've also been using those visuals on the live show. Unfortunately, this video might be region restricted. I'm not sure where all exactly it is playable from:

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[philth]

Like the song. Don't much like the official video. Like the style of the visual experiment.

The is a great shot in the official video with the dancer moving slowly on the left of the screen and the really long shadow to the right, but the rest of it doesn't hang together for me. Maybe I just don't get it! :) Didn't much like the I Exhale video either.

[potatobroth]

i haven't really liked an UW video since Footwear Repairs. They're fine, but after one watch, I never watch again.

[holden]

It makes sense that electronic music, so often inspiring dance, or thrown into the EDM category, should feature dancers in videos. I like the freeform nature of the routine, much like an uptempo version of the Chemical Brothers' recent "Wide Open" vid. Yet that had a concept...the dancer turning to mesh. Here, it's just a nicely synchronized routine. I guess I like a little variety (see modern dancers in UW's "Moon in Water"... Great quick cuts of multiple dancers, in studio and nature, group and individual routines). This and the vid for " I Exhale" are one note ideas.

BTW, I do like most of the Barking vids. Less crazy about those from OWB. Yeah, they don't make em like Shoewear Repairs anymore!

[rohanworth]

Yes, agree with the view that the vids haven't always been that inspiring or whatever. I do love this one though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfH8qHFvEEY

[txjaxx]

There is an If Rah video that Tomato did in advance of the O exhibition that incorporates those visuals. They've also been using those visuals on the live show. Unfortunately, this video might be region restricted. I'm not sure where all exactly it is playable from:

ZM3nOeRyshs

Can someone rip this with Keepvid? It's not viewable in the US.

[sbommer]

Can someone rip this with Keepvid? It's not viewable in the US.

It's also blocked in Denmark, so I would also appreciate an alternative link.

[joethelion]

I dunno... I've liked a fair number of videos since 'Footwear Repairs' (Push, KOS, TMO, most of the ones off of Barking... oh, and I did like the one for "Ring Road")

but this... just seemed uninspired. Like, I feel like I've seen it before - even down to the costuming.

However, I really do like this radio edit... it's probably the first time I've ever preferred an edit over the album version...

[philth]

The digital promo for If Rah just arrived along with a Matthew Herbert Lunar Dub and the radio edit.

The Herbert dub is interesting, a long slow build, quirky, but better for listening than for the dancefloor I suspect.

Oh, and an instrumental too. Almost forgot. Time to invert an isolate the vocals... :)

[BrotherLovesDub]

drooling over the Herbert mix. can't wait to get that.

[marcolphus]

Can you provide the tracklisting for this promo?

[philth]

Can you provide the tracklisting for this promo?

If Rah (Original Mix) [07:13]
If Rah (Instrumental) [07:13]
If Rah (Matthew Herbert's Lunar Dub) [07:54]
If Rah (Radio Edit) [03:34]

[marcolphus]

Thanks!!

[negative1]

If Rah (Original Mix) [07:13]
If Rah (Instrumental) [07:13]
If Rah (Matthew Herbert's Lunar Dub) [07:54]
If Rah (Radio Edit) [03:34]

thanks, added to uk mk3 listing.

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[TheBang]

There is an If Rah video that Tomato did in advance of the O exhibition that incorporates those visuals. They've also been using those visuals on the live show. Unfortunately, this video might be region restricted.

I've uploaded it here:

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[BrotherLovesDub]

Oh wow. An Instrumental If Rah. That's great news. Hope this comes out on 12".

[khouri]

The only other instrumental mix I can recall being officially released was Scribble, which IMO is the superior version of that High Contrast version of the song. If Rah is probably my least favorite track on BB, but maybe I'll come around with the instrumental.

[marcolphus]

Bird 1 and Always Loved a Film also have instrumental versions (on promos and digital though).

[kontakt1968]

the whole of Barking was released as instrumentals on a U.S promo cd.

[saintrik]

Love the song... But really underwhelmed by the video... Nice concept - well shot and edited, but it just seems unfinished to me.

I found myself messing around with the different video elements last night and came up with this:

https://youtu.be/-DgtCiMxKmw

Not necessarily any better or worse - but seems to harkens back to earlier, more layered UW videos.

Cheers.

[khouri]

the whole of Barking was released as instrumentals on a U.S promo cd.

WHAT. I gotta find this. I stand corrected.

[purlieu]

However, I really do like this radio edit... it's probably the first time I've ever preferred an edit over the album version...

For me: Ring Road, with that chord building up to the last chorus. KOS Barking Mix. And strangely, Pearl's Girl, which I find works better as a 'song' rather than a long sprawling piece with vocal passages.

[negative1]

WHAT. I gotta find this. I stand corrected.

you were the third person to post that you wanted it.

OT : https://www.borndirty.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17272&highlight=barking+instrumentals

and:

https://www.borndirty.org/forums/showpost.php?p=156102&postcount=44

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[txjaxx]

I've uploaded it here:

https://vimeo.com/162142646

Thanks!

[TheBang]

If Rah (Matthew Herbert Lunar Dub) can be heard here at the 23:05 mark:

http://www.benzmixes.com/turned-on-118-cassius-seth-troxler-tom-trago-matthew-herbert-david-august-juan-maclean-uffe/

[cdave2]

Oh, that is NICE. Takes me back to Sweet Exorcist a bit. Thanks, Bang!

[kontakt1968]

Really like the lunar dub wonder when this will get a release?
Just realized theres valhalla shimmer in the lyrics one of my favourite plug ins!

[Lx_Nen]

There's a 4 track promo CD with it on ebay for silly money.

Yet again I have to wonder why people who want music on CD are being made to give large amounts of money to random ebay sellers.

Current business model: Band pays for CD, gives it to random person. Random person puts it on ebay for 40 quid. Fan buys it.
Result: Band out of pocket having paid for manufacture of CD. Ebay makes approx 2x normal CD single cost in fees, random person makes a lot more, fan pays ridiculous money.

Rational model: Band pays for CD, Fan gives them money for it. Band makes more, fan spends less, everybody apart from Ebay and random person is better off.

If exclusivity is the problem, just delay posting the CD until after the promotional exclusive period is over. If price is the problem, charge more - the market will obviously bear high costs. If post and packing is the problem, sell subscriptions - 'all 6 promo CD singles for this album, to be posted once the last one is done, 50 quid', done deal.

[philth]

Two more If Rah remixes landed today. Can't find samples online yet.

If Rah (Voiski Remix) - 5:47
If Rah (Voiski Sleepless Remix) - 6:34

"The ever impressive Parisian producer Voiski has created two mind blowing remixes of Underworld’s new single 'If Rah' from their amazing ninth studio album 'Barbara Barbara, We Face a Shining Future’.

Using the vocals effectively in both remixes as he builds up the main assault, to unleash two cracking Techno tracks. Both these remixes are bound to turn up the heat of any dance floor."

[joethelion]

'all 6 promo CD singles for this album, to be posted once the last one is done, 50 quid', done deal.


I absolutely wish bands would do this...

...and if labels did that in the 90's... man... I would have spent soooo much less money on Depeche Mode singles ;)

[negative1]

new order is doing a good job of releasing all the singles on cd/vinyl, with lots
of remixes for 3 so far. they are also releasing stems for 2 tracks and a 2cd
set of the extended mixes for all the tracks, which most of them were on
vinyl (there are 2 mixes that have been changed).

would be nice for underworld to follow suit.

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[philth]

Record labels, will they ever learn...

[Troy McClure]

I don't know what makes for an interesting remix, but I like the Voiski Sleepless Remix of If Rah.

[Georg.]

There's a 4 track promo CD with it on ebay for silly money.
Yet again I have to wonder why people who want music on CD are being made to give large amounts of money to random ebay sellers.


Here is a a deeper look at who is making the money out of the promo CDs (NOT Underworld obiviously!!! :mad:).

Past ebay sales for the "I Exhale" promo CD (2 Tracks)

end date - price - seller
06-04-2016 - £11,49 - luckylarryspromoshack
09-04-2016 - £17,00 - luckylarryspromoshack
12-04-2016 - £10,21 - luckylarryspromoshack
17-04-2016 - £10,50 - luckylarryspromoshack
20-04-2016 - £ 5,88 - luckylarryspromoshack
23-04-2016 - £ 6,56 - luckylarryspromoshack
26-04-2016 - £ 3,53 - luckylarryspromoshack
29-04-2016 - £ 4,24 - luckylarryspromoshack
15-05-2016 - £ 4,19 - kingcinder69


Past ebay sales for the "If Rah" promo CD (4 Tracks)

26-04-2016 - £15,49 - luckylarryspromoshack
29-04-2016 - £21,09 - luckylarryspromoshack
08-05-2016 - £21,87 - luckylarryspromoshack
15-05-2016 - £18,00 - luckylarryspromoshack
17-05-2016 - £39,00 - eazeism
23-05-2016 - £12,50 - eazeism
26-05-2016 - £24,00 - luckylarryspromoshack

As you can see one seller made £169,86 from selling 13 promo CDs at ebay...!! (they were never intented to be used as promos!?)
I can't understand why Underworld doesn't want to make that money?! :confused:
I would happily pay them my money for the CDs or a lossless download (at underworldlive.com), but.... :(

[BrotherLovesDub]

They do want to make money, they just want to make $100 per shipment of a box set to the US.

[saintrik]

http://d250ptlkmugbjz.cloudfront.net/images/covers/23/53/0060254795323_300.jpg

This is now available:

IF RAH
1 If Rah (Radio Edit) 00:03:34
2 If Rah (Matthew Herbert Lunar Dub) 00:07:51
3 If Rah (Voiski Remix) 00:05:47
4 If Rah (Voiski Sleepless Remix) 00:06:34

http://www.qobuz.com/gb-en/album/if-rah-underworld/0060254795323

[holden]

Really enjoying the Vioski remixes, especially the Sleepless version - nice oscillating buzz and the arpeggiated key has some room to breathe.
The Herbert Lunar dub is okay, a little bit too much thrown against the wall at the end (though one could argue that this happens in the original, too!)
Glad this is out, anyway. Much preferred to the Koze remix from I Exhale.

[darktrain]

Is it just me or is the radio edit vocal slightly slower than the album version?

[negative1]

will be adding this to the songography list shortly.

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[purlieu]

I know this is a well-worn subject, but given that High Contrast mentioned the album was cut down from a huge bulk of songs, how wonderful would some b-sides be right now?

[Dino3D]

Is this promo really just a CDr? Are all the Barabara promo CD singles just CDrs?

https://www.discogs.com/Underworld-If-Rah/release/8811078

[TheBang]

Is this promo really just a CDr? Are all the Barabara promo CD singles just CDrs?
Just If Rah, for some reason. The other 3 are pressed CD's.

[Dino3D]

Just If Rah, for some reason. The other 3 are pressed CD's.

Thanks for the helping!

[mark3]

Just If Rah, for some reason. The other 3 are pressed CD's.

What do you look for to tell the difference?

Also, If Rah and I Exhale (4 track promo) share the same cat.no. UWR00068 P .. ?

[TheBang]

What do you look for to tell the difference?

Also, If Rah and I Exhale (4 track promo) share the same cat.no. UWR00068 P .. ?
Well, if you just look at the underside of the disc, you can usually tell the difference between CD and CD-R media. CD-R uses a dye-based phase shift medium which looks different from a pressed, replicated CD. The data area is usually much more defined (to the naked eye) on a CD-R.

The other major way to distinguish is the matrix area. Pressed CD's have a lot of information in the Matrix, including SID codes. CD-R's usually have no matrix information, and a dot-matrix-like batch code. You can see more information on Discogs:

https://www.discogs.com/help/submission-guidelines-release-format.html#CD_Versus_CDr

As for the catalog numbers, I think that was a copy-paste mistake. I think If Rah should have had a different catalog number. BTW, did you mean 2-track promo for I Exhale? I'm not aware of a 4-track promo.

[mark3]

Thanks a lot for explaining - and thanks for the link.

Yes, there is a 4-track promo cd of I Exhale.
And it was probably the reason for my question as I believe the 4-track I Exhale promo is a CDr too.
I couldn't tell the difference between If Rah and this one.

Sorry for the lousy quality

http://markcod.dk/iexhale.jpg

[TheBang]

Nice. I wish I had that one. What's the exact catalog number on it?

[mark3]

It's LC 34323 UWR00068 P

[TheBang]

Thanks

[jOHN rODRIGUEZ]

ya know Benatar's Shadows Of the Night video has always been a favorite of mine