Dubnobasswithmyheadman: 20th Anniversary 5-CD Deluxe Boxset

[Troy McClure]

Everyone stop what your doing and check out the shop page! Dubno...

Deluxe 5 CD boxset (info taken from the shop page)
released on 6th October 2014. Includes previously unreleased material and rare alternate mixes alongside the record’s original companion singles and remixes and a 50 page book containing memorabilia and new artworks by tomato.

CD1// 1. Dark & Long / 2. Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You / 3.Surfboy / 4.Spoonman / 5.Tongue / 6.Dirty Epic / 7.Cowgirl / 8.River Of Bass / 9.M.E .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...................................... //

CD2 // 1.The Hump (Wild Beast) / 2.Eclipse / 3. Rez/ 4. Dirty / 5. Dirty Guitar / 6.Dark & Long (Hall's Edit) / 7.Dark & Long (Dark Train) / 8.Spikee .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...................................... //

CD3 // 1.Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You (Jam Scraper) / 2.Cowgirl (Irish Pub In Kyoto Mix) / 3.Dark & Long (Most 'Ospitable Mix) / 4.Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You (Telegraph 16.11.92) / 5. Dark & Long (Burts Mix) / 6.Dogman Go Woof / 7. Dark & Long (Thing In A Book Mix) .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...................................... //

CD4 // 1.Concord (3 Comp75 id9 A1771 Aug 93A) / 2.Dark & Long (1st ruff id3 A1551 2) / 3. Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You (A1765 Sky Version id4. Harmone6 COMP43) / 4.Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You (After sky id6 1551 2) / 5.Can You Feel Me? (from A4796) / 6. Birdstar (A1558 Nov 92B.1) / 7.Dirty Epic (Dirty Ambi Piano A1764 Oct 91) / 8. Spoonman (version1 A1559 Nov92) / 9.Organ (Eclipse version from A4796) / 10.Cowgirl (Alt Cowgirl C69 Mix from A1564) .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...................................... //


CD5 - LIVE JAM KYME RD // 1. Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You / 2.Improv 1 / 3.Bigmouth / 4.Improv 2 / 5.Big Meat Show / 6.Improv 3 / 7.Spoonman

AND

a BluRay Disc for sale.

http://underworldlive.spinshop.com/

[saintrik]

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Good lord.

[jetpig]

It's everything -1 dreamed and more! Time to get a blu-ray drive. Also the 5 cd thing...

Most interesting is the pre-order for that show... curious to see the full news release. Dont miss the front page of the website!

[Troy McClure]

It's everything -1 dreamed and more! Time to get a blu-ray drive. Also the 5 cd thing...

Most interesting is the pre-order for that show... curious to see the full news release. Dont miss the front page of the website!

Can't wait to crank up the BluRay to 11. This definitely is a huge thrill.

The 5 CD set is definitely for the life long fan in all of us. So much stuff.

Thank you Underworld.

[fastone]

...and a live performance at the South Bank.....excellent day today

[fastone]

...ooops
details here http://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/support-us/membership/priority-booking/underworld?utm_source=wordfly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=[E]Underworldann24/6/14&utm_content=version_A

[purlieu]

Gonna be the first to say "shame it doesn't have all the b-sides and remixes from the era" - although this is blatantly for time reasons (the remaining Dark & Long versions would pretty much fill another CD for a start). Otherwise, pretty great. Cannot wait to hear CD4 in particular.

[Troy McClure]

The press release is up too on their page and Facebook:

http://www.underworldlive.com/news/2014/06/dubnobasswithmyheadman-20th-anniversary-re-issue-show-2/

To coincide with the re-release of Dubnobasswithmyheadman, Underworld will play the album in full at a one-off show at London’s Royal Festival Hall on Saturday 11th October 2014. This show will offer fans a unique chance to see Underworld in one of the capital’s most iconic venues playing this classic album in its entirety for the first time. Tickets cost £35/£30 and are on general sale from 4th July.

AND

Dubnobasswithmyheadman is the first remastered work to be released, there are plans in place to remaster and reissue all of the Underworld’s studio albums in the next few years.

[Troy McClure]

Gonna be the first to say "shame it doesn't have all the b-sides and remixes from the era" - although this is blatantly for time reasons (the remaining Dark & Long versions would pretty much fill another CD for a start). Otherwise, pretty great. Cannot wait to hear CD4 in particular.


That's true, but persoanlly I'd rather have something like CD4 and CD5 then something that was already released.

The press release says CD5 is 'previously unreleased live rehearsal recorded in the band's home studio in 1993'


Jason

[khouri]

Fantastic news. A better reissue package than we could have reasonably hoped, not to mention the live show (which I will buy tickets for even though I've no idea whether I can travel to England or not).

It's astonishing to learn there's that much unreleased/alt material from the era considering how much they put out at the time. The album proper, the Dirty Epic, Cowgirl, Dark & Long singles plus Spikee/Dogman and the LI stuff and yet there's still more we haven't heard. What an astonishingly fertile era for the band. I hope that revisiting it has inspired Rick and Karl to write more together.

[scary man]

This is all wonderful news!

Please tell me the RFH is not seating only.

[kontakt1968]

This is a dream come true hope i get tickets too:)

[fastone]

"This is all wonderful news!

Please tell me the RFH is not seating only."

It is

[bazwint]

At last... a change to the setlist

Nostalgia ain't what it used to be (groan) :)

[scary man]

"This is all wonderful news!

Please tell me the RFH is not seating only."

It is

Tt.

[Lx_Nen]

5CD set and blu-ray on order. Very nice looking set, and it hasn't *quite* made all my import CD singles obsolete.

Kyme Road, eh? As I was a Romford lad back in the 90s, I always wondered where Lemonworld actually was - looks like it was somewhere here:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.571134,0.189145,3a,75y,193.22h,88.09t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1syJEhOvEkml-_b4h5RD0Ezg!2e0

See you all at the gig!

[holden]

Very cool! Definitely excited about discs 4 and 5. And the gig! STITI and BF boxsets for their 20th? Very interested:)

[ThingInABook]

sorry guys, i'm about to bring a bit of a happysad story:

i just recieved my canadian visa, so i need to save money. me, being the hysterical underworld fan i am, i honestly LUST for that boxset, so i'm willing to sacrifice the $150+ needed to pay for the records and for the shipping.

the problem is that i might not be able to listen to the whole thing, since all my records and players will end in storage until i can ship them from chile to canada. and that means a year and even more to settle down there. a boxset that big will take more than 2 months to land here (chilean post is the worst ever) and i might leave during january.

i'm in a bit of a disyuntive here, you see: i can order the boxset, even if it's a bit of a waste of money, because i need it for my travel things. but the thought is i might not be able to enjoy it until my things arrive from home. i would love to know if the boxset is a limited edition. because if it is limited, i'm screwed :(

[negative1]

It's everything -1 dreamed and more! Time to get a blu-ray drive. Also the 5 cd thing...

Most interesting is the pre-order for that show... curious to see the full news release. Dont miss the front page of the website!

well, i ordered the deluxe set.

but there's always room for improvement:
==============================
- where are the videos?

- what happened to the rest of the mixes that are missing?


definitely glad to see more demos and live tracks on discs 4 and 5.

the bluray audio will be cool too. but i doubt it is a 5.1 mix,
probably just stereo.

cool, they are doing this, and hopeful for second toughest in
the infants.

later
-1

[nelfun5]

To coincide with the re-release of Dubnobasswithmyheadman, Underworld will play the album in full at a one-off show at London's Royal Festival Hall on Saturday 11th October 2014.

Since it's the original version they will play, Darren Emerson might be there as well or am I completely raving mad?

[nelfun5]

"Please tell me the RFH is not seating only."

It is

An Underworld seated concert? Worst nightmare I can imagine.

Let me get it straight: Dubnobasswithmyheadman is my favorite electronic music album. I would go to space to enjoy a full performed show of it and I didn't even dare to hope UW would make that happen one day. That said, I probably won't attend the RFH concert if it is seating only.

I have seen them performing live four times and these concerts always provided me fantastic feelings, both mentally and physically. My first UW gig in Riga (2006) was an exctatic experience I will never forget.
Not being able to dance on their act would be a real torture as their music live is for me all about dancing: enjoying the music with every part of your flesh.

I understand that this one show is more a kind of anniversary ceremony than a festival gig but I can't help but think that making it seating only is doing the wrong tribute to one of the most acclaimed Techno music albums of all time.

Karl, Rick, don't you agree (http://youtu.be/8ajr7InllAI?t=8m20s)?

[jetpig]

5 cd set ordered blu ray will be soon and MAYBE even the vinyl. Now to see if it's economically feasible to get the two of us to London...

[Spooky Shoes]

. because if it is limited, i'm screwed :(

Not necessarily, I've seen a few of the Barking boxes in record shops, don't think that I would have any bother getting another one.


Please tell me the RFH is not seating only.

Fairly sure it is. Could make filming a bit easier, if that were to happen.

5 CD ordered, am debating Vinyl/Bluray atm.

[testudo]

Since it's the original version they will play, Darren Emerson might be there as well or am I completely raving mad?

I thought the same thing... especially since Darren is all over the promotional photos in the email for thsi, etc...

[Andrea]

Oh, great news! Now I can at least dream of seeing him dance live in the near future.
How many membership fees are needed to get to the first row ´you think? Is it even possible?

Generous track listing but I miss the Born Slippy Jam.
Why is it so hard to add that to the CD5? Or will it have its own anniversary?

[Dunwho]

Hi everyone!

This is fantastic news! I am trying to figure out if I should get the 5CD set but the art on the box alone is probably going to sell it for me.

I am definitely ordering the vinyl however. That is the one album I do not have on vinyl and I have never really wanted to dish out the 60e that a lot of traders are asking for. I also like the idea that I purchased it at a time I was actively following the band rather than a retrospectively... I was barely 6 when the album came out originally.

It is great to have so much activity recently with Karl doing so much with Eno and now this.

I think a trip to London may be on the books.... :)

[scary man]

An Underworld seated concert? Worst nightmare I can imagine.

Let me get it straight: Dubnobasswithmyheadman is my favorite electronic music album. I would go to space to enjoy a full performed show of it and I didn't even dare to hope UW would make that happen one day. That said, I probably won't attend the RFH concert if it is seating only.

I have seen them performing live four times and these concerts always provided me fantastic feelings, both mentally and physically. My first UW gig in Riga (2006) was an exctatic experience I will never forget.
Not being able to dance on their act would be a real torture as their music live is for me all about dancing: enjoying the music with every part of your flesh.

I understand that this one show is more a kind of anniversary ceremony than a festival gig but I can't help but think that making it seating only is doing the wrong tribute to one of the most acclaimed Techno music albums of all time.

Karl, Rick, don't you agree (http://youtu.be/8ajr7InllAI?t=8m20s)?

Fuck it.

I'm going.

I'm dancing!

[Dunwho]

sorry guys, i'm about to bring a bit of a happysad story:

i just recieved my canadian visa, so i need to save money. me, being the hysterical underworld fan i am, i honestly LUST for that boxset, so i'm willing to sacrifice the $150+ needed to pay for the records and for the shipping.

the problem is that i might not be able to listen to the whole thing, since all my records and players will end in storage until i can ship them from chile to canada. and that means a year and even more to settle down there. a boxset that big will take more than 2 months to land here (chilean post is the worst ever) and i might leave during january.

i'm in a bit of a disyuntive here, you see: i can order the boxset, even if it's a bit of a waste of money, because i need it for my travel things. but the thought is i might not be able to enjoy it until my things arrive from home. i would love to know if the boxset is a limited edition. because if it is limited, i'm screwed :(

I wonder if it is possible for you to have the box set delivered to someone on here who lives in Canada or the states? Then you could have them send it to your new address in Canada?


Also congrats on the Canada visa!
:D

[TheBang]

FYI, I received clarification that the Blu-ray is high-res stereo. No multi-channel mix.

[testudo]

Wish they just released a SUPER set that included Blu-ray, Vinyl and 5CD

I just ended up ordering all of these ala carte. :)

[Troy McClure]

FYI, I received clarification that the Blu-ray is high-res stereo. No multi-channel mix.

Any idea if they will be a video component to the Blu-ray? Either way, still ordering it.

Thanks,

Jason

[cdave2]

An Underworld seated concert? Worst nightmare I can imagine.

Sounds as if there will be seats, but that doesn't mean anyone's going to be seated. :)

Very envious of those who can be there. Unfortunately my budget and remaining time off work won't allow it. I'll be in Milwaukee instead listening to Gladys Knight from the front row, so take that ya suckers! ;)

Good luck to those of you trying for tickets!

[negative1]

Oh, great news! Now I can at least dream of seeing him dance live in the near future.
How many membership fees are needed to get to the first row ´you think? Is it even possible?

Generous track listing but I miss the Born Slippy Jam.
Why is it so hard to add that to the CD5? Or will it have its own anniversary?

its from a later era.

probably will show up further on.

later
-1

[negative1]

Everyone stop what your doing and check out the shop page! Dubno...


CD3 4.Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You (Telegraph 16.11.92) ]

i wish the tracks were in actual chronological order.

also, this is a typo, and not a new mix..

the original has always been:
=====================
Mmm... Skyscraper I Love You--Telegraph 6.11.92

later
-1

[testudo]

i wish the tracks were in actual chronological order.

also, this is a typo, and not a new mix..

-1

Completely confused by the 5 CD set... it seems like there are lots of duplicate tracks across the CDs, can anyone please explain this

[kagenaki koe]

When they announced there would be a Blu Ray release, i thought it would be Footwear Repairs........

i'm ordering the 5cd and vinyl as soon as i get paid this week.:D

[lectoid]

Wish they just released a SUPER set that included Blu-ray, Vinyl and 5CD


THIS! I want it all.

[TheBang]

Completely confused by the 5 CD set... it seems like there are lots of duplicate tracks across the CDs, can anyone please explain this
There's a formatting error on the underworldlive.com news item. The contents of Disc 3 are listed twice, one of which is under the Disc 2 contents.

[lectoid]

Also, any info on the Blu Ray? Will there be a menu or will it work just like a CD?

[jose m]

the RFH is seated but there's plenty of room to get up and dance if the spirit moves you.
re the boxset
cd 4 is made up of demos,work in progress,alternative mixes of varying quality and is unmissable ! :)
cd5 is a one take,straight from the desk,live rehearsal with improv's many old timers will recognise.

i've heard it all !:D

[jetpig]

Up late and can't sleep, so I decided to do some comparison between my CD rip of Cowgirl (FLAC) and the pre-order download WAV. There's a general boost of about 10 db, but the clipping alert on foobar never went off once, which is very good, addresses the volume issues of the past without sacrificing quality. Overall sound separation is VASTLY improved. Details are much easier to pick out, vocals are much cleaner, and texturing is phenomenal. I'm REALLY excited to hear this whole thing. October can't come soon enough.

edit: they say they're gonna give all the albums this treatment, is that gonna include Everything, Everything, you think?

[TheBang]

Should be interesting to hear the works in progress.

It'll also be very nice to get some soundboard live versions of Bigmouth and Big Meat Show. According to the 2012 Anthology liner notes, Big Meat Show was a staple of the 92-93 shows, but no recordings are in circulation.

The RFH show will also mark the live debuts of Tongue, River of Bass, and M.E. (Mark II debut), and will be suitably appropriate to the seated nature of the venue. :)

[negative1]

Also, any info on the Blu Ray? Will there be a menu or will it work just like a CD?

probably just a basic menu.

other groups have released audio blurays like this.

i have one from tears for fears- the hurting.

as for remastering everything, everything, i hope so,
and if it would have ALL tracks, including the previous
audio only ones, that would be cool.

and the video remastered for HD, would be great.

later
-1

[Spooky Shoes]

It is stated that the studio albums are going to be subject to the remastering treatment, I do however hold out hope that this will be applied to EE also.

I am probably going to go for the Bluray or Vinyl but am waiting for the Bluray specs to see if there is any justification for the format as anything equal to or less than 24/96 would fit on a DVD. So my thoughts are the Bluray would be around 24/192 but at 66MB per minute, that would still leave around 20GB of space left after the album, which incidentally could fit the other 4 discs from the Super Deluxe box at the same high resolution.

[qirex]

I just realized the bluray isn't inlcuded in the boxset? (that I just ordered)
Also, what's the point of the Bluray if it's just the album audio? (in stereo nontheless)

[Spooky Shoes]

Also, what's the point of the Bluray if it's just the album audio? (in stereo nontheless)

It comes down to resolution.

I've just decided to hold off on ordering the Bluray/Vinyl until nearer the release date because there is probably going to be a Japanese edition.

[ultradave]

Hmmm, aside from being remastered, I pretty much own most of the material. I was a little disappointed not to see Mother Earth (FM Mix) on the remixes CD. Being the Underworld junkie that I am though will prompt my need for the 5 Disc set. I'm sure the remastering alone will be well worth the quid. As far as flying to London... that won't happen unfortunately. I would love to hear M.E. live.

[negative1]

I just realized the bluray isn't inlcuded in the boxset? (that I just ordered)
Also, what's the point of the Bluray if it's just the album audio? (in stereo nontheless)

not sure if it will follow this format,
but a lot of bluray releases do:

3 versions of the album:
================================
Features:
• Blu-ray - Audio Only
• High-Fidelity Pure Audio
• Playable on Blu-Ray player or PS3 console
• Audio taken from original master tapes and delivered in 24bit/96 khz
• 2.0 DTS and PCM Mixes

Decoding LPCM stream (track 2): Bitrate: 4608Kbps Sample Rate: 96KHz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24bit
Decoding DTS-HD stream (track 3): DTS-96/24 core Bitrate: 1536Kbps core + MLP data.Sample Rate: 96KHz Channels: 2 (DTS Master Audio 24bit)
Decoding TRUE-HD stream (track 4): AC3 core+TRUE-HD. Peak bitrate: 3366Kbps (core 640Kbps) Sample Rate: 96KHz (core 48Khz) Channels: 2

that's how 'the hurting' came.
here's a review i did of it, just to give you an idea on how it compares
to the remastered version.
==================================================
http://www.nwoutpost.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=34386

mostly likely you can rip it, but it will probably use BD+ encoding.

i expect that the bluray version masters are the source for the
other remasters.

later
-1

[negative1]

Hmmm, aside from being remastered, I pretty much own most of the material. I was a little disappointed not to see Mother Earth (FM Mix) on the remixes CD.

comparing it to the list of mixes i had in my project,

this is what is missing for me:
(not including lemon interupt tracks)
==============================================
from dubnoDat
---------------------
3 big meat show 6:51
*5 organ 6:22
6 river of bass(long) 9:09
*9 can u feel me 4:30
===============================================
*UPDATE : these 2 tracks are identical to the ones released

remixes
------------
1 5:43 Mother Earth (fm mix)
1a 4:16 mother earth (demo)

4 9:51 Dark Train (edit)
5 11:30 Dark Hard

7 8:55 Cowgirl (long album version)
9 6:25 Cowgirl (winjer mix)

12 7:37 dirty epic (dirty guitar fade)

lemonworld mixes
----------------
13 mmm skyscraper 6:04 128k mp3
14 man loop 17:24 128k mp3
15 dark and long (dark train jam) 6:12 128k mp3

b-sides and edits, non-album tracks
===========================================
2 8:49 The Hump (groove without a doubt)

4 8:20 Why? Why? Why?
5 12:14 Why? Why? Why? (Extended)
6 5:15 why? why? why? (edit) cd volume 8 only

11 20:02 215 Miles

13 17:53 Spoon Deep


15 4:10 Dirty Epic (jed the fish edit)

16 9:08 big meat show (anthology version)
-------------------------
later
-1

[negative1]

noticed another possible typo.

1.The Hump (Wild Beast)

should be:
=================
The Hump (Wild Beasts)

later
-1

[lectoid]

- If you order the blu-ray or vinyl which comes with the digital files, is it only the digital version of that album?

I'd like a digital version of the 5CD's is what I'm after (and vinyl).

Or like the 5CD set + digital, what digital files does that one come with?

EDIT: Nevermind, I just re-read the "more info" and saw where it states the digital files are just for the main album. Well Poop.

[Spooky Shoes]

not sure if it will follow this format,
but a lot of bluray releases do:

3 versions of the album:
================================
Features:
• Blu-ray - Audio Only
• High-Fidelity Pure Audio
• Playable on Blu-Ray player or PS3 console
• Audio taken from original master tapes and delivered in 24bit/96 khz
• 2.0 DTS and PCM Mixes

Decoding LPCM stream (track 2): Bitrate: 4608Kbps Sample Rate: 96KHz Channels: 2 Bits per sample: 24bit
Decoding DTS-HD stream (track 3): DTS-96/24 core Bitrate: 1536Kbps core + MLP data.Sample Rate: 96KHz Channels: 2 (DTS Master Audio 24bit)
Decoding TRUE-HD stream (track 4): AC3 core+TRUE-HD. Peak bitrate: 3366Kbps (core 640Kbps) Sample Rate: 96KHz (core 48Khz) Channels: 2


Pretty sure that you could still fit all of that on a DVD, the benefits of using a BD would be higher sample rate and the potential for more channels, unless it is just being used to charge a premium.


mostly likely you can rip it, but it will probably use BD+ encoding.


Easy :)


i expect that the bluray version masters are the source for the
other remasters.


I really hope not, for the sake of the vinyl.

[TheBang]

Actually, I think the track selection on this has been very judicious. Of the potential candidates for inclusion, they didn't duplicate any of the content that had already been released on the 2012 Anthology (The Hump Groove Without a Doubt, Minniapolis, Big Meat Show, Why Why Why). And they've included some stuff that was previously vinyl only (The Hump Wild Beasts and Eclipse).

[stimpee]

Actually, I think the track selection on this has been very judicious. Of the potential candidates for inclusion, they didn't duplicate any of the content that had already been released on the 2012 Anthology (The Hump Groove Without a Doubt, Minniapolis, Big Meat Show, Why Why Why). And they've included some stuff that was previously vinyl only (The Hump Wild Beasts and Eclipse).Man has a point.

[Spooky Shoes]

Man has a point.

True.

[jetpig]

The 5cd will be available digitally as well according to a Facebook comment. I think it was steven hall who said it but can't recall and don't wanna dig through all that on my phone...

[testudo]

Since all of the tracks are coming from Midi files, I wish they would just release all of the individual sound tracks (bonus data dvd?) then we could make all of our own remixes...

this would be legendary!

I would love to have acappella and instrumental versions of all tracks on dubnobass.

this would be a very 2014 thing to do!

very underworld!

[Mike]

this would be a very 2014 thing to do!

Yeah if you were a Beatport artist desperate for promotion :rolleyes:

It would be nice though to hear some new 2014 mixes of the old songs.. I wouldn't even mind if Pricey did a bit of work on them for a remix package.

[holden]

Remixes by UW inc.Pricey could be okay though from the Dubno era, there are so many remixes by the boys that were essentially different tracks already! That's my kind of remix. Been so disappointed the past 10 or so years of producers either just adding a trendy drumloop to a classic UW song like cowgirl, dark and long...or taking the vocal loop and smacking it on whatever crap track they had lying around and calling it a remix
There are exceptions, but they are few.
Anyway...always prefer a new UW product to an external remix. Wonder if they will be faithful to the original dubnoversions in the live show or alter those that rarely/ never get played live?

[negative1]

Actually, I think the track selection on this has been very judicious. Of the potential candidates for inclusion, they didn't duplicate any of the content that had already been released on the 2012 Anthology (The Hump Groove Without a Doubt, Minniapolis, Big Meat Show, Why Why Why). And they've included some stuff that was previously vinyl only (The Hump Wild Beasts and Eclipse).


actually, they feel sloppy, haphazard, and very random.

omitting various major mixes (mother earth(fm mix), and
including basic ones that we have heard many times over.

also, if you're going to include and not include lemon interupt tracks,
what about:
=================================================
bigmouth 10:08 v, cd
bigmouth (edit) 7:34 cd
-------------------------------------------------------------------
eclipse (leo re edit) 8:04 dig
-------------------------------------------------------------------
minniapolis 9:09 v, cd
minniapolis (full)10:05 cd,dig
minniapolis (edit) 4:47 cd
minniapolis airwaves 3:03 v

also, why are the mixes on disc 3 all of out of order?

would it have been that hard to keep them chronological?

puzzling choices for the discs.

later
-1

[testudo]

Yeah if you were a Beatport artist desperate for promotion :rolleyes:


I couldn't disagree more, no one has released a whole album of tracks to remix... this would be legendary!

it would continue Underworld's history of pioneering new ways of producing music :)

[jetpig]

While not really a fan, Nine Inch Nails has done it. http://www.ninremixes.com/multitracks.php

I like the idea in theory, but I don't particularly have a desire to hear 15 different big room house remixes of Nuxx.

[mickstafa]

I hope they record/release the upcoming live show as well at some point.

[testudo]

While not really a fan, Nine Inch Nails has done it. http://www.ninremixes.com/multitracks.php


You're right since they did it Underworld shouldn't :rolleyes:

I really would just love to make ambient versions of all the tracks on the LP

[jetpig]

Didn't mean to imply that they shouldn't cause someone else had already, merely that it's not a brand new idea.

[ultradave]

I hope they record/release the upcoming live show as well at some point.

This would make sense since it's a one off show @ a well known venue. I wouldn't be surprise if they release the live show on Audio & Video mediums. Now that I'm thinking, I really do hope so! It would be Epic.

[ultradave]

actually, they feel sloppy, haphazard, and very random.

omitting various major mixes (mother earth(fm mix), and
including basic ones that we have heard many times over.


Totally agree. That being said, at least the value of the Mother Earth 12" is being preserved for those of us fortunate enough to posses such a vital piece of Underworld memorabilia. :cool:

[nelfun5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGIVtIyxP7I&feature=em-uploademail

MAGICAL VIBES

Please give us the whole concert guys! Good time to re-open Archive section! :D

[jetpig]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGIVtIyxP7I&feature=em-uploademail

MAGICAL VIBES

Please give us the whole concert guys! Good time to re-open Archive section! :D

Fantastic! Quoting for truth.

[hypeless]

While not really a fan, Nine Inch Nails has done it. http://www.ninremixes.com/multitracks.php

I like the idea in theory, but I don't particularly have a desire to hear 15 different big room house remixes of Nuxx.


I do believe that Sasha released all the stems from Airdrawndagger back in the day. It's still floating around the internet somewhere.

[Spooky Shoes]

Bluray info is up now, "remastered audio HD 24bit / 96k Stereo only", which does make the choice of Bluray a little bizarre to me as a DVD would be more accessible to a wider audience.

[negative1]

Bluray info is up now, "remastered audio HD 24bit / 96k Stereo only", which does make the choice of Bluray a little bizarre to me as a DVD would be more accessible to a wider audience.

that's not uncommon these days as mentioned earlier in the thread.

besides you can always rip the tracks.

later
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[ultradave]

I do believe that Sasha released all the stems from Airdrawndagger back in the day. It's still floating around the internet somewhere.

I love that LP. Any chance you have any of the fan mixes linked to this supposed release?

[Spooky Shoes]

that's not uncommon these days as mentioned earlier in the thread.

besides you can always rip the tracks.

later
-1

I would rip the tracks from whatever format anyway, as it goes I am currently ripping the 2003 Simply Vinyl version that I bought on ebay, last year, for £3. My original '90's copy has always been unplayable, skips like a mofo even with the tone arm seriously weighted.

Hopefully some sense will prevail and a 24/96 download will be available.

[negative1]

I love that LP. Any chance you have any of the fan mixes linked to this supposed release?

it is real.

PM me, i have some.

later
-1

[Dunwho]

I just made the purchase.. Vinyl (Because I have never owned that LP) and the 5 CD set.. yowza.. that was a chunk of my pay cheque... but worth it I hope.

Now to decide if a trip to london is on the cards... I think it will be worth it.

I will just have to wait and see when the Pre-order presale is made available... will probably do it.

[Dirty0900]

5CD purchased, now I need the email for the gig in London. Worth coming to London for.

[Dunwho]

Anyone know how this presale is going to work and how our preorder is going to let us get in there early?

[Spooky Shoes]

Details from recent email.

As someone who has pre-ordered a copy of dubnobass from underworldlive.com (http://campaignmail.topspin.net/wf/click?upn=qJfYJWVJ-2BHxc0l4tyU-2FAKzCblx0GupTy3GiQxK8YzT20edKvQ0x3VqXoquUXhXrT_FW 9N-2F-2F8RWCO4ShcQan7O9keLuTj30PGatqsuurSRk-2Fr73H4GtHCNfQ6UY5bXiLmxLexWhQd2ctlWqKGX-2BAeFZzsTClqIYkCSIbRv-2FEeBJieYbu2HKvntYVhtZYzKt6dLMO8XLWzbB7FjZOI7dK4y-2FWuJpm299KtVGGAEBVrOQxf5FvdE7JkIxj4C1iERMJDtF2kmM MPLO5RqYTegmYcqSdjAx6OrEbpKscOfdXVrn-2BAQsJ5hdGjKbEj18AU3vy4d) you will receive an email from us during the morning (UK time) of 2nd July with the link to the ticket page that will go live at 10am (UK time) on 3rd July. If you do not receive this email by 1pm (UK time), please first check your spam folder and if still no luck, then contact us BEFORE 5PM (UK Time) on 2nd July at hello@underworldlive.com.

[Dunwho]

Details from recent email.

Thanks dude! Should have read my email a bit closer! ;)

[testudo]

i have been thinking about this alot. Since a lot of the lyrics were inspired/taken from living in NYC. The boys should be playing a "DubNoBass..." show in NYC as well.

What do you all think?

[hypeless]

I love that LP. Any chance you have any of the fan mixes linked to this supposed release?

I don't have any of the mixes, but did go digging for a torrent of the stems. PM me if you want an upload of it. I think the original site, etc were all taken down. It's a shame, I loved it too, wish he made a successor to it.

[ThingInABook]

i finally purchased the boxset during this weekend after determining my departure date. hopefully it'll arrive before march. because if it doesn't.... D: D: D:

cdave2 you're a total sweatheart! thanks so much for your help offer ;)

[kontakt1968]

I got tickets..im sooooooooooo happyyyyyyy:D

[testudo]

I don't have any of the mixes, but did go digging for a torrent of the stems. PM me if you want an upload of it. I think the original site, etc were all taken down. It's a shame, I loved it too, wish he made a successor to it.

PM sent!

[fastone]

Ticket pre-purchase now safely sitting in the inbox.......

[negative1]

will be interesting to hear recordings or videos when they play live.

cowgirl decoupled from rez perhaps.

dark and long by itself, instead of dark train for the 1000th time.

no born slippy.

could be very interesting.

later
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[holden]

Any thoughts on the remastered "Cowgirl" download?

Listening to it now and even on computer speakers, i'm surprised by how many layers i can make out that were formerly buried in the mix. Dang, the drums sound great, it's all very crisp.

[jetpig]

I did a small comparison earlier in the thread, but it's just amazing. I've been listening to it a LOT since I got it. Not only are new sounds popping up that were buried before, but old sounds have new life and detail as well. 13 seconds in there's a click at the beginning of that loop that I'd never heard before and that trend just keeps on til the end. Karl's voice is clean and clear and simultaneously separated while blending perfectly with the mix. My favorite is the clapping sound that comes in at 3:01. The texture of that is so crisp and just...so dirty. It's glorious!

[Troy McClure]

I did a small comparison earlier in the thread, but it's just amazing. I've been listening to it a LOT since I got it. Not only are new sounds popping up that were buried before, but old sounds have new life and detail as well. 13 seconds in there's a click at the beginning of that loop that I'd never heard before and that trend just keeps on til the end. Karl's voice is clean and clear and simultaneously separated while blending perfectly with the mix. My favorite is the clapping sound that comes in at 3:01. The texture of that is so crisp and just...so dirty. It's glorious!

I put the .WAV files of both the new remaster and original Dubno record on a blank CD to compare them back to back when I drive around town. The original 1994 recording was pretty good. It holds up well. The best part was 'no bricking'. You could turn it up loud and your ears never got fatigued unlike a lot of today's recordings. But the new stuff is like listening to it for the first time all over again. There's way more separation of the sounds.

It's really remarkable all the new sounds that come to life that was said above. It's on par to The Beatles remasters in my view....(maybe due to Abbey Road).

I can't wait to hear the rest of the work...especially Spoonman and Dirty Epic.

Jason

[Dirty0900]

Erm....I've had no email with the Cowgirl link, is it personalised or take you to
a minisite?

[Bargo]

There should be a download link in the receipt email you get from purchasing it.

[Dirty0900]

Only got the PayPal receipt

[Troy McClure]

Erm....I've had no email with the Cowgirl link, is it personalised or take you to
a minisite?
You should have received an email from Underworld confirming your purchase. My email had two links to download Cowgirl because I ordered the 5-CD set and the Blu-ray disc. The email also contains a link to download the MP3 files for Dubno on October 6th.

Jason

[Spooky Shoes]

The email should be from "do-not-reply=underworldlive.com@topspin.net", junk mail perhaps?

[Spooky Shoes]

If you can't find the email you can contact Topspin here..

https://app.topspin.net/account/help_public

[twicezero]

Has anyone who didn't received the link started a refund process? (I got nothing since the initial receipt emails - no mail with a link to the ticket sale)

My first complaint email that no link was sent to me was replied to by a boilerplate reply that was unconnected to my complaint. I've mailed again specifically asking for a refund.

Anyone had any luck?

[Bargo]

I looked into getting a refund (decided to order from the Australian re-seller they announced a few days later to save myself $30), but their refund policy is not exactly very promising. In short, it's "sorry, no refunds":

http://support.topspinmedia.com/entries/22125532-What-is-your-refund-policy-

In the end I didn't look into it any further after seeing that page, but I wish you luck.

[DaddyAdv]

Just did the purchase and some A/Bing of Cowgirl.
The re-master is tremendously good - wide open, but clear and distinctive sound !

[Dirty0900]

See how long top spin take to get me my download

[lectoid]

Is there a USA site we can buy this from. The almost $20US for shipping is a hard pill to swallow. Would rather use that to buy more UW stuff.

[Spooky Shoes]

Has anyone who didn't received the link started a refund process? (I got nothing since the initial receipt emails - no mail with a link to the ticket sale)

My first complaint email that no link was sent to me was replied to by a boilerplate reply that was unconnected to my complaint. I've mailed again specifically asking for a refund.

Anyone had any luck?

I've never been a fan of Topspin....

Topspin's backend.

... A few years ago their most used excuse for fucking up was that they were updating their Back End. I am not surprised that emails were never received.

See how long top spin take to get me my download

They have always replied fairly quickly, just depends how much shit they got over the weekend.

Is there a USA site we can buy this from. The almost $20US for shipping is a hard pill to swallow. Would rather use that to buy more UW stuff.

http://www.amazon.com/Dubnobasswithmyheadman-Remastered-Underworld/dp/B00L3TXAD6/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1

[lectoid]

Thanks, I should have at least googled before I asked. Since I didn't see links on their website for other countries, I just assumed it wasn't available.

I also assume I don't get the early release of Cowgirl, but I can live with that by saving almost $20 and will also get it day of release.

[Troy McClure]

Thanks, I should have at least googled before I asked. Since I didn't see links on their website for other countries, I just assumed it wasn't available.

I also assume I don't get the early release of Cowgirl, but I can live with that by saving almost $20 and will also get it day of release.

I only noticed the Amazon US links a couple days ago. The Dubno.... reissues were up on the Amazon UK site within a day or two of Underworld's own shop.

[holden]

If the "Cowgirl" remaster is any indication of the attention to detail on this reissue, it will be very worthwhile. Hopefully the outtakes and live jam are of good quality, too.
Dubno always sounded quiet to me, but I guess I excused it because of the age. STITI is the record that really bothers me how murky the mix is...that'll be a fantastic remaster rerelease. But because BF is my favorite lp, I'm most excited for that, mostly for unreleased cuts, if any exist...

[woofmute]

Really hoping, really really hoping, that the live rehearsal Big Meat Show they've remastered is more similar to the one from the proto Dubnobass DAT than the weird one from 1992-2012.

[bryantm3]

damn... don't have the cash right now. i wish they'd put a preview of what the remaster sounds like, is it going to be worth my time or is it going to be another brickwalled remaster Ã* la everything else that has come out in the past 15 years?

[holden]

See comments above...Cowgirl, at least, is not brickwalled. The remastering sounds amazing! But your point is a good one...maybe a few snippets comparing the original with the remaster would be cool. Though I think folks familiar enough with the original know that a remaster can't hurt and are buying this on spec.

I'm curious about the prev. Unreleased mix of Cowgirl on the new Rez vinyl pressing...different mix or just the new remaster?

[mickstafa]

Well I also live in Alpharetta, GA, so you can come over and check it out when it arrives. ;)

[bryantm3]

Well I also live in Alpharetta, GA, so you can come over and check it out when it arrives. ;)

cool!!

[jetpig]

the new cowgirl has a similar level of fidelity to and I will kiss and calibans dream. Comparison to the original master is night and day. This is a remaster done right (by the original artist!). Get it in some form. I notice a difference even in my 15 dollar in ears, it's that distinct.

[negative1]

While this is just one track, I wouldn't worry.
It's louder, the sounds are clearer, and this is not brickwalled.

Maybe not a huge improvement, but a good one:

Remastered
=======================================
http://imgur.com/DEdG0UY

http://i.imgur.com/i1mMnGH.jpg

The original
=======================================
http://i.imgur.com/96yxStT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HIzQBus.jpg

later
-1

[Dirty0900]

Concord - 6.51
Can You Feel Me - 4.30
Birdstar - 4.51

I've received a promo and can confirm the level of detail in the remastering is brilliant and will be worth the purchase. Dirty Epic sounds much fresher.

The new tracks are complete bodies and don't feel like demos or
off cuts. Can You Feel Me is in a similar vain to M.E and is nice and chilled. Concord could have been on the album if CD had more memory. The vocal has a Cowgirl style effect on Karl's voice to give you an idea. Birdstar is a progressive grove with some nice under effects and is probably my favourite on first listen.

I'm not massively familiar with the live improvs around the time but I'd be surprised if these tracks weren't used to bridge between songs.

[ultradave]

http://www.amazon.com/Dubnobasswithmyheadman-Remastered-Underworld/dp/B00L3TXAD6/ref=ntt_mus_dp_dpt_1

So Amazon US wants $149.99 for this... I just ordered it from the UW Shop since the conversion came out to $116.95 shipped. I'll just have to wait a few days longer, but worth the savings. And now I can listen to the Cowgirl Remaster.... Everything, Everything.... :D

:confused: For those of you in the US who don't know the conversion. FYI.

[bryantm3]

While this is just one track, I wouldn't worry.
It's louder, the sounds are clearer, and this is not brickwalled.

Maybe not a huge improvement, but a good one:

Remastered
=======================================
http://imgur.com/DEdG0UY

http://i.imgur.com/i1mMnGH.jpg

The original
=======================================
http://i.imgur.com/96yxStT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HIzQBus.jpg

later
-1

i don't know; that looks a lot more compressed to me. far from the worst i've seen, of course, but far from the best.

[TheBang]

If it were compressed the difference between the loud and soft sections would be relatively less. The dynamic difference looks relatively proportional to the original waveform.

[jetpig]

Looking at the waveforms I can see a few peaks that were clipped short in comparison to the original, but certainly nothing that my ears picked up on and the vast improvements everywhere else are definitely worth it

[lectoid]

Amazon US also wants $59 for the Vinyl now. Somehow I ordered it for $32 a few weeks ago when someone mentioned in this thread. Good for me I guess.

Underworld tweeted that if you pre-order from iTunes or Amazon, you'd also get the Cowgirl for free. I don't see on Amazon where it mentions that though. I also don't see the pre-order in iTunes (US).

[TheBang]

Underworld tweeted that if you pre-order from iTunes or Amazon, you'd also get the Cowgirl for free. I don't see on Amazon where it mentions that though. I also don't see the pre-order in iTunes (US).
I believe it is only for digital versions. I believe Underworld's Shop is the only way you can get Cowgirl free now with physical versions.

It's also not available yet on iTunes US. Only UK.

[taoyoyo]

Well I also live in Alpharetta, GA, so you can come over and check it out when it arrives. ;)

... [ OT ] that makes 4 Dirties in Alpharetta now!

[Troy McClure]

I believe it is only for digital versions. I believe Underworld's Shop is the only way you can get Cowgirl free now with physical versions.

It's also not available yet on iTunes US. Only UK.


It's up on US iTunes now. Must have been put up for presale today since I checked last night, and it wasn't there. It has both the 2-disc deluxe version ($19.99) and the 5-disc super-deluxe version ($49.99)

Plus the track lengths are up. Apologies if this was already discussed.


CD2 ---
Looks like the version of 'Dirty' being released is 10:18 in length. Most likely the version on the 1992 - 2002 compilation.

'Dark Train' is 9:54.


CD4 (total time ---- 74:32)
1.Concord (3 Comp75 id9 A1771 Aug 93A) ---- 6:50
2.Dark & Long (1st ruff id3 A1551 2) ---- 9:34
3. Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You (A1765 Sky Version id4. Harmone6 COMP43) -- 9:58
4.Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You (After sky id6 1551 2) ---- 5:29
5.Can You Feel Me? (from A4796) ---- 4:30
6. Birdstar (A1558 Nov 92B.1) ---- 4:51
7.Dirty Epic (Dirty Ambi Piano A1764 Oct 91) ---- 6:48
8. Spoonman (version1 A1559 Nov92) ---- 10:03
9.Organ (Eclipse version from A4796) ---- 6:19
10.Cowgirl (Alt Cowgirl C69 Mix from A1564) ---- 10:10

CD5 - LIVE JAM KYME RD (Total Time ---- 76:23)
1. Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You --- 13:28
2.Improv 1 ---- 7:24
3.Bigmouth ---- 8:17
4.Improv 2 ---- 8:03
5.Big Meat Show ---- 11:16
6.Improv 3 ---- 9:52
7.Spoonman ---- 18:03


---Jason

[holden]

Nice find!
18 minute Spoonman live jam?!:eek:

[woofmute]

Getting takedown notices from UMG now for my upload of The Hump Wild Beasts. Who owns the original sound recording? Tomato? Do I have grounds to dispute the takedown under the premise that UMG own the remaster, not the original sound recording?

[Mike]

Why would you even consider disputing the takedown? You don't own the recording, so get it down.

[woofmute]

Just because I'm not sure they even own the version they're claiming. Even if I dispute, it's already down, so.

[Dirty0900]

My promo is pretty strongly worded if I was to leak it. Desperate for others to hear the new tracks but all I can do is talk about them like in my precious post.

[holden]

You're a lucky person! I guess the rest of us just have to wait a couple months...
Really looking forward to "new" UW, even if its over 20 years old!

[mark3]

Concord - 6.51
Can You Feel Me - 4.30
Birdstar - 4.51

I've received a promo and can confirm the level of detail in the remastering is brilliant and will be worth the purchase. Dirty Epic sounds much fresher.
.

Nice find! Is that all 5 cds you got?

[Dirty0900]

Nice find! Is that all 5 cds you got?

Got a digital promo which is the standard 2 CD version.

The tracks will definitely keep people happy and could have easily made it on to the album. They don't sound like b-sides.

Also something else pays off as well...

[Professor]

resolute... prob the wrong place to talk about why you can't put up promos, and really weird you'd ask the forums advice on disputing. there are lots of old school peeps here that lurk and watch...

i am unimpressed.

[TheBang]

He's talking about an upload of the original track on YouTube, not the promos for the new remaster. UMG used YouTube's Content ID matching system to issue blocks against all the tracks contained on the remaster, which, of course, matches against sound recordings of the original issue too, because Content ID is not so discriminating.

The question is whether UMG actually has distribution rights for the original recordings. If not, then the blocks could technically be disputed. And I think that's actually the case.

[Spooky Shoes]

A 6 disc Japanese edition is due for release on the 22nd October along with SHM-CD's of the other studio albums up to OWB.

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Underworld_000000000001513/item_Dubnobasswithmyheadman-Super-Deluxe-Edition-Ltd_5911315?site=mailmagart&utm_source=moa140812sa&utm_medium=other

[Spooky Shoes]

From Universal Japan, details of the 6th disc are undecided...

http://www.universal-music.co.jp/underworld/products/uicy-76823/

Looks like the Deluxe edition is getting a bonus too...

http://www.universal-music.co.jp/underworld/products/uicy-15342/

[negative1]

A 6 disc Japanese edition is due for release on the 22nd October along with SHM-CD's of the other studio albums up to OWB.

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Underworld_000000000001513/item_Dubnobasswithmyheadman-Super-Deluxe-Edition-Ltd_5911315?site=mailmagart&utm_source=moa140812sa&utm_medium=other

i'm not surprised in the least bit.

i expect all the other remasters and releases to have exclusive japanese tracks.

most likely it will be live tracks on the extra disc as suggested from the sites.

later
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[Spooky Shoes]

Fairly predictable, will be interesting to see what additional material is there, hopefully some guff that I'm not really interested in like the recent mixes of Rez, D&L, ect...

Anyway, STITI SHM-CD
http://www.universal-music.co.jp/underworld/products/UICY-25428/

BF
http://www.universal-music.co.jp/underworld/products/UICY-25429/

AHDO
http://www.universal-music.co.jp/underworld/products/UICY-25430/

OWB
http://www.universal-music.co.jp/underworld/products/UICY-25431/

Doubt they are remasters.

[holden]

Google translates a rare working title for the Japanese 6th disc:
"Dove No Base With My Man Head".

Explode mystic dove!

[TheBang]

Doubt they are remasters.
Yeah, they are not. Just re-issues to get them back in print (since the licensing agreement with V2 has expired and they've all been out of print for a while) in the Japan market.

It seems like they've signed quite the distribution deal with UMG.

[saintrik]

The translated Japanese links have a bit more detail...

Box Set (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.universal-music.co.jp/underworld/products/uicy-76823/&usg=ALkJrhhCEqw7EfVR-9kpv9AqcKJT51Xg2g#xsOejzMdPRsYQweM.99)
● The plan recorded three songs as bonus disc tracks that have been recorded in Japan tour of 2005 in Japan board!
● Commentary with the Japan version

2-CD Edition (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www.universal-music.co.jp/underworld/products/uicy-15342/&usg=ALkJrhjWwTK83PDWMdmOtVkt-RRSCgBBJQ#QyC9HMxFljypQxtc.99)
● The 1 songs scheduled to tracks that are recorded in concert in Japan in 2005 to a Japanese board!

[crank]

Want Dark & Long (hall's edit) from the remaster? http://genero.tv/underworld/

[negative1]

Want Dark & Long (hall's edit) from the remaster? http://genero.tv/underworld/

Nice, thanks.
You can make a video for it.

And they published the lyrics:

hunder, thunder, lightning ahead
Kiss you, kiss you, dark & long
Thunder, thunder, lightning ahead
Thunder, thunder, lightning
Thunder thunder, lightning ahead
Now I kiss you dark & long

Me I'm just a waitress she said
I went and bought a new head she said
I look at you I believe in you she said
Screaming into the eye of the lens
I want to smash it up, I want to break it down
I want a wall of tears to wash away…

Thunder, thunder, lightning ahead
Thunder, thunder, lightning
Thunder, thunder, lightning ahead
Now I kiss you dark & long

Filled with tainted girls and motel frills
What a laugh…


later
-1

[Professor]

thebang... ok. I misunderstood. resolute, I apologize for the attitude.

[woofmute]

I meant the original vinyl release of The Hump, sorry for any confusion. Disputed it but UMG still wanted takedown so I guess they have the rights to the original one.

Also, is anyone gonna contact underworld and see of they can get some of their videos unblocked? The music video for Spikee was blocked in the UK on copyright grounds apparently...

[Troy McClure]

Want Dark & Long (hall's edit) from the remaster? http://genero.tv/underworld/


Is it named 'Hall's Edit' because it was edited by Steve Hall?

---Thanks, Jason

[crank]

Is it named 'Hall's Edit' because it was edited by Steve Hall?

---Thanks, Jason

I believe so, yes.

[Troy McClure]

A new post on the band's YouTube channel was uploaded today. It's a trailer for the Super Deluxe boxset set to 'Dark and Long'. It's shows everything included plus what's inside the book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoA6SSEuhWk&feature=youtu.be&list=UUL2yEhXEN6umpyZYJhX4e7g

Jason

[woofmute]

Newsletter out today that includes an mp3 of Surfboy for preorderers!


To mark the 20th anniversary of dubnobasswithmyheadman we want to hear what this record means to you. What are your personal interpretations of the tracks, your memories of seeing Underworld live and how the record makes you feel now listening back 20 years on.

Record and upload your commentary to the Underworld Soundcloud group and we’ll share some of our favorites.

We are very excited to announce that Underworld will be performing on 6Music live from Maida Vale with Lauren Laverne week of 6th October, not only will you be able to listen to the performance on 6Music but you can also watch it live on the red button.

Karl will be talking to Lauren about it on her 6music show on Wednesday 10th Sept around 11am, where she will also preview an unreleased track from the super deluxe version of the album.

You can hear another unreleased track, ‘Concord (3 Comp75 id9 A1771 Aug 93A)’, on Annie Nightingales radio 1 & 1Xtra show on Wednesday 10th Sept from 1am.

[negative1]

The new surfboy sounds very good.

with lots of new bleeps, blips, and bloops that weren't as clear before to me.

later
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[Troy McClure]

Newsletter out today that includes an mp3 of Surfboy for preorderers!


Thanks for the heads up! I saw the email in my inbox, but hadn't opened it yet. Glad to see that they are ramping up the promotion for the re-release. Can't wait to get my hands on the physical releases in 4 weeks.


Jason

[woofmute]

Concord is playing on BBC Radio 1 right now!

Interview with Karl has just been on, they're playing Birdstar on radio 6 now.

[DaddyAdv]

I've pre-ordered before and got the Cowgirl re-mastered, how do I get to the Surfboy download ?

/edit: got it - click on the Order Number in your receipt e-mail
/edit2: no luck, it's called "Surfboy Cowgirl remaster", but it's only the 8+ minutes of Cowgirl ...

[pandamagic]

Concord is playing on BBC Radio 1 right now!

Interview with Karl has just been on, they're playing Birdstar on radio 6 now.

anyone record either concord or birdstar off the BBC? or failing that, any descriptions of what they're like?

[pandamagic]

I've pre-ordered before and got the Cowgirl re-mastered, how do I get to the Surfboy download ?

/edit: got it - click on the Order Number in your receipt e-mail
/edit2: no luck, it's called "Surfboy Cowgirl remaster", but it's only the 8+ minutes of Cowgirl ...

my link to the surfboy remaster was in the underworld email newsletter that showed up yesterday, not in the e-mail receipt for the pre-order.

[Dunwho]

anyone record either concord or birdstar off the BBC? or failing that, any descriptions of what they're like?

You can listen to the BBC Radio 6 interview here with Birdstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04gr85p on just after Aphex Twin at about 1h 10mins

Edit: Radio 1 play of Concorde here.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04gk48n You can hear it 30 Mins in.

[woofmute]

"This is Birdstar 2 on computer 61 and twelve-track", I think that's what Rick says. Interesting song, and the elements of other songs in both Birdstar and Concord are especially interesting.

[pandamagic]

You can listen to the BBC Radio 6 interview here with Birdstar http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04gr85p on just after Aphex Twin at about 1h 10mins

Edit: Radio 1 play of Concorde here.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04gk48n You can hear it 30 Mins in.

great, thanks!

[King of Snake]

I'm really enjoying the remastered Surfboy and I got a new appreciation for this track that sometimes I kind of considered slightly "filler" on Dubno. The remaster just sounds awesome, with very clear bass and all the sounds are really well defined and seperated and...smooth. It's actually quite a trippy track with lots of layers even though it's not the strongest "song" on the album.

[Mike]

Fuzz > Birdstar > Big Meat Show

Hey theres a new karlspeakloop to add to the collection:

thistimethebigtimethistimethebigtime

Also noticed Lauren called it "Birdstar (Hall's Mix)".

[Mike]

Nice little anecdote from Annie Nightingale after Concorde - she just revealed that she went on tour with Freur as a DJ and fell off the stage. Didn't realise she was into them before they were Underworld.

[khouri]

In that 6 Music piece, Karl references 'recreating the album' and 'trying to do justice' to how it was originally performed. I'm a little concerned about that. I really hope Underworld give the Dubnobass tracks the live treatment that we've come to expect from the band. I'm dying to hear Dark And Long, Surfboy, Tongue, River of Bass and the rest deconstructed and put back together again live as they have so many of their great songs. We've been listening to Dubnobass for 20 years, we know what it sounds like. I'm hoping to go to London and hear a new version of the record, but maybe that's not what Underworld has in mind.

[jetpig]

http://www.chaoscontrol.com/underworld-interview-dubnobasswithmyheadman/

A republished interview with Karl from 1994. Mentions very early gigs, independant labels (JBO/WaxTrax), and early work flow for the band.


Any speculation about the upcoming maida vale session? I suspect some dub no stuff will be there, but doubt the whole thing will be dub no material. As long as they don't just play the same set they have been... i mean while I'd love a soundboard (finally) of that set, that'd be squandering a great opportunity to bring out something fresh, maybe even, dare I say it, new?

[potatobroth]

I'm really enjoying the remastered Surfboy and I got a new appreciation for this track that sometimes I kind of considered slightly "filler" on Dubno.

Was remast. Surfboy released somewhere?

[woofmute]

Released through newsletter!

[holden]

http://thequietus.com/articles/16238-underworld-birdstar

Birdstar on its own

[potatobroth]

I swear, Underworld has the worst newsletter. I've signed up for it 3 times minimum over the years and still I don't get them but 50% of the time.

[Mike]

I swear, Underworld has the worst newsletter. I've signed up for it 3 times minimum over the years and still I don't get them but 50% of the time.

I don't think it was actually released through the uwlive newsletter. It was released to those that pre-ordered, it came from a topspin mail address. I presume you have pre ordered?

[crank]

I have pre-ordered it too and i've not received anything either.

[potatobroth]

yep, I have it pre-ordered. Checked spam, trash, everything.

[King of Snake]

maybe you can email uwlive support if you didn't get the mail? I could post the link to the track here but it might be considered bad form since it was meant specifically for people who pre-ordered.

[hypeless]

cannot wait, cannot wait cannot wait!!

the bits and pieces they released so far have REALLY gotten me up and going for the super deluxe. what's old is new again!

and considering dubno was the album that got me into Underworld in the first place (after hearing cowgirl on the Hackers soundtrack... haha), reading jetpig's first thoughts on the cowgirl remaster, and always lurking and reading the fuss about vinyl, i decided it was finally time to take the plunge into a set of "decent" headphones and try to listen to the album on vinyl.

cannot wait!

[2dreamofluv]

I have both the vinyl and Super Deluxe Stupendous boxset preordered and I am still looking twice a day for a leak.
My most anticipated release of 2014 is an album from 1994.
Makes sense.

[jetpig]

cannot wait, cannot wait cannot wait!!

the bits and pieces they released so far have REALLY gotten me up and going for the super deluxe. what's old is new again!

and considering dubno was the album that got me into Underworld in the first place (after hearing cowgirl on the Hackers soundtrack... haha), reading jetpig's first thoughts on the cowgirl remaster, and always lurking and reading the fuss about vinyl, i decided it was finally time to take the plunge into a set of "decent" headphones and try to listen to the album on vinyl.

cannot wait!

What 'phones did you end up getting?

A word of warning: it is not uncommon for people's first reactions with nicer headphones to be like, "this is it?" Give it some time, and after a little bit of getting used to them go back to your old ones, then you'll understand. Cheers!

[hypeless]

What 'phones did you end up getting?

A word of warning: it is not uncommon for people's first reactions with nicer headphones to be like, "this is it?" Give it some time, and after a little bit of getting used to them go back to your old ones, then you'll understand. Cheers!

Guy I work with saw the crappy $20 earbuds I usually listen with and recommended Audio Technica ath-m50x - said I'd hear a difference without breaking the bank. Any recommendations for when I want to upgrade again?

Already hearing a difference in music of course (Now I know why I wasn't supposed to rip MP3's at 128 when I was younger...) but also even on Netflix.

And look at that, Dirty Epic (Dirty Ambi) has just been put up on youtube.

[jetpig]

The ATH-m50 is a great start. I'm in the same mid-fi ballpark with my DT770s. The next step up in the same vein (closed back over ear), according to the internet at large, would be the Mr Speakers Mad Dogs. They're a custom modded headphone that gets rave reviews all over. If you wanna branch out a bit, take a look at the Sennheiser HD 5xx or 6xx series. The HD 600 and 598 specifically are considered benchmark headphones, maybe not the absolute best of the best, but very good headphones that many can refer to for comparisons. They are open back and very well regarded. Less bass because the low frequencies don't have anything to bounce off, but more space between sounds as they have more air to work with and move. There is zero isolation though, you hear everything around you and everyone around you hears what you hear, so they're more of an at home set.

In order to prevent further derailment of this thread, check out reddit.com/r/headphones and head-fi.com. Head-fi starts to get into the snake oil side of audio gear with talk of cables making a huge difference and what not, but there's a lot of good info there too.

Sorry about your wallet....

[maurice]

The translated Japanese links have a bit more detail...

Box Set (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.universal-music.co.jp/underworld/products/uicy-76823/&usg=ALkJrhhCEqw7EfVR-9kpv9AqcKJT51Xg2g#xsOejzMdPRsYQweM.99)
● The plan recorded three songs as bonus disc tracks that have been recorded in Japan tour of 2005 in Japan board!
● Commentary with the Japan version

2-CD Edition (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www.universal-music.co.jp/underworld/products/uicy-15342/&usg=ALkJrhjWwTK83PDWMdmOtVkt-RRSCgBBJQ#QyC9HMxFljypQxtc.99)
● The 1 songs scheduled to tracks that are recorded in concert in Japan in 2005 to a Japanese board!

Just checked on the HMV Japan site, it looks like the bonus tracks on Disc 6 are just live tracks pulled from the 3 disc Live in Tokyo set.

Disc 6

日本盤のみのボーナス・ディスク[予定]
01． Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You (Live In Tokyo 2005)
02． Rez (Live In Tokyo 2005)
03． Dark Train (Live In Tokyo 2005)

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Underworld_000000000001513/item_Dubnobasswithmyheadman-super-Deluxe-Edition_5911315/track/1/#audition

[2dreamofluv]

Amazon just delayed delivery of my vinyl copy until 10/21.

[stimpee]

Just checked on the HMV Japan site, it looks like the bonus tracks on Disc 6 are just live tracks pulled from the 3 disc Live in Tokyo set.

Disc 6

日本盤のみのボーナス・ディスク[予定]
01． Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You (Live In Tokyo 2005)
02． Rez (Live In Tokyo 2005)
03． Dark Train (Live In Tokyo 2005)

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Underworld_000000000001513/item_Dubnobasswithmyheadman-super-Deluxe-Edition_5911315/track/1/#audition But is disc 6 DVD or CD? I dont think we have DVD footage of the Tokyo 2005 gig.

[TheBang]

It's a CD. And there were a handful of small QuickTime vids from that gig posted to uwlive.com years ago.

[vflow]

Box set arrived here today (Amazon Germany) - it's a beautiful, beautiful thing.
And FC St. Pauli just won - what a day! :D

[DaddyAdv]

Topspin just also notified me: deluxe edition shipped today.

[Spooky Shoes]

Just got the shipping notification too.

[Troy McClure]

I got the notification, too. Since I'm in Arizona, hopefully won't be much more than a week before it gets to me.

Jason

[jetpig]

also notified. We'll see how long to get to Washington.

[gcoleman99]

I also got my e-mail from Topspin today. Maybe we'll get ours the same day, jetpig, as we're both in WA.

[Dirty0900]

No shipped notice for me.

[hypeless]

Shipping notification on the super deluxe and vinyl for me! That said, I'll be looking for a leak every day cause my super deluxe is coming to by way of a friend. Might be tempted to buy it on digital :-X

[whatmakesustick]

Mine arrived (UK) - I don't think any of us can complain about the treatment they have given this reissue. Beautiful packaging and artwork. Can wait to dig into the music. And a postcard of them rehearsing at the Royal Festival Hall just wetting the appetite for the gig at the weekend!!!

And after I have played the cd's to death and enjoyed the gig...I get to look forward to a couple of more gigs early next year!

[jetpig]

http://ameblo.jp/kazumgn/entry-11934925349.html

A bbc radio 1 mix with Mr. Hyde. You can use offliberty.com to save the mix from mixcloud.

[woofmute]

Digital versions of your order should be downloadable through the topspin email now depending on which one you ordered.

[vflow]

I'm right now listening to the remastered version of the main album. Wow, this is outstanding remastering work.

I bought the original CD right when it came out back in 1993, and since then I enjoyed it so many times that I simply can't tell how often that was.

To me, this new version feels like listening to a good old friend and a brand new album at the same time. I'm out of words.

Four more discs to explore, OMG.

[khouri]

According to iTunes, the remastered album is two seconds longer than the original. Someone add that to the appropriate database.

[woofmute]

So, there's definitely something new in Mother Earth.

[negative1]

Listening to the remaster now. Sounds a lot clearer and more distinct effects with headphones on.

I doubt the time difference is worth the effort of seeing if there is really any changes.

will check on mother earth though, are you sure its an actual change?

they were sloppy with the file renaming, and it seems like rather a rush job on this download.
the embedded art is for the original album and not the remaster.


So, there's definitely something new in Mother Earth.

*update, just checked out mother earth, didn't notice anything new.
however all the songs have what sounds like new changes, but should
just be the result of the remastering making previous elements sound
clearer.

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[hypeless]

Wrapping up my first listen to the MP3 download (M.E. is playing right now) before bed.

Everything sounds cleaner and clearer, like someone cleared out my ears and everything between them. Cannot wait for discs 2-5 to show up!

[orangepants]

Considering this has cost us all £50, money which they've had for over 3 months in a lot of cases by imploring us to pre-order to gain access to the pre-sale for the RFH gig, am I being unreasonable in my surprise and disappointment that MP3 downloads of just the first CD are available?

I pre-ordered the reissue / remaster of Mogwai's "Come On Die Young" album and ALL of the extra content was available as an MP3 download through Topspin on the release date.

[Troy McClure]

Considering this has cost us all £50, money which they've had for over 3 months in a lot of cases by imploring us to pre-order to gain access to the pre-sale for the RFH gig, am I being unreasonable in my surprise and disappointment that MP3 downloads of just the first CD are available?

I pre-ordered the reissue / remaster of Mogwai's "Come On Die Young" album and ALL of the extra content was available as an MP3 download through Topspin on the release date.

Depends on the band. For this I wasn't surprised. It had stated that only the remastered album was to be available for immediate download on release day. I consider the MP3's an added bonus, since I'll be waiting at least another week before I get the physical copies in the mail.

Jason.

[Troy McClure]

Has anyone received their vinyl or Blu-Ray orders of Dubnobasswithmyheadman yet? Very curious to see what their opinions of those releases are, and how the packaging looks.

Cheers, Jason

[woofmute]

The last 30 seconds or so of Mother Earth, Karl's singing doesn't end at his last "Goodbye Mother Earth" line. Though likely the result of the remaster, his singing isn't audible after that line in the original, you can hear him breathe in but anything further was lost.

[Dunwho]

Woo digital download has arrived... I expect my Vinyl and CD this week. Going to enjoy listening to this all day at work today :)

EDIT: It is all about the extra Bass Vibration on River of Bass.... holy shit, my favourite groove just got better - actually cant wait to hear this song live.

[TheBang]

The last 30 seconds or so of Mother Earth, Karl's singing doesn't end at his last "Goodbye Mother Earth" line. Though likely the result of the remaster, his singing isn't audible after that line in the original, you can hear him breathe in but anything further was lost.

Yup, he's right. I noticed it on the first listen. It's at about 6:41 into the song. You can hear Karl singing without any vocoder effects, whereas on the original, there's no singing at all. I think it's probably a remaster mistake.

[crankphoto]

Physical 5 CD set arrived, excellent packaging and something to treasure

Some of my colleagues suggest its like a 'for dummies' artwork - Underworld for Dummies ????

Off to lie down in a darkened room - if only :)

[crankphoto]

Also came with a postcard - shows Karl and Rick "in rehearsals at royal festival hall 2014" - looks to be quite a minimal setup, they normally gig with a much bigger kit list. No Darren Emerson of Darren Price in view :confused:

[Dunwho]

it's probably a remaster mistake.

I'd be shocked if that is the case.. It is either something that got buried in the original mix and is now free to breath, or it is purposely included by Rick as a gesture to the original recording.

I couldn't fathom Rick letting anything slide... crazy genius that he is.

[woofmute]

In the original, you can hear him breathe in and then start to say "It's". The rest of those two lines can only be heard in the remaster. I've checked in both the Dubnobass release and on my Mother Earth vinyl...

So it's really well embedded, or it's intentionally included, or even a mistake... But it being well embedded seems unlikely since you do hear him breathe in and say "It's". It cuts out in the original.

Yup, he's right.
She! :p

[Lx_Nen]

I'm guessing this counts as fixing an error in the original then?

[jetpig]

I also got my e-mail from Topspin today. Maybe we'll get ours the same day, jetpig, as we're both in WA.

Just received mine. Looking forward to opening and listening to it this evening.

[dubnobasswithme]

I was amazed to see the 5cd version show up at my house here today! Didn't think they'd have it to the middle of the US for many more days.

Very excited to give the new material proper listens on my headphones.

[saintrik]

For those of you lucky enough to have received the box set, I'm really looking forward to hearing some of your impressions of the bonus materials.

How is the live jam?
Are the B-sides remastered to the same quality as the album?
What are the standout demo tracks?

Hopefully, that will tide me over as my box ships to the US.

Cheers - R

[gcoleman99]

Just received mine. Looking forward to opening and listening to it this evening.

*grumbles* damn. You got it before me. *grumbles* :mad:

[khouri]

This remaster is divine. It really is like we've been listening to this thing with earplugs in for the last 20 years.

Stray observations:

- Sounds like echoes and reverb and so forth are far, far more clear in the mix than before. Vocal refrains I thought I'd effectively imprinted on my brain matter itself now sound brand new. See Dirty Epic for the best demonstration of this. The most epic Underworld track is even more epic-y.

- The "don't put your hand..." section of Spoonman has been improved considerably. That vocal track was always too low in the mix and was very difficult to turn up and jam to in the car and whatnot. Now it's loud and clear. I could chop it out and use it in a DJ mix now.

- I wonder if it's not too remastered in some parts. I can hear artifacts of some kind in Cowgirl's "everything everything" sample that I've never noticed before. I think it may be part of the original sample that was previously muffled because of mastering limitations. Mind you, this is an extreme nitpick and likely not something I would even notice or mention if I hadn't been listening to this for 20 years. Someone hearing this for the first time would fall in love with the song like we all have.

- In the pre-order download, Cowgirl has a very audible fuck up at exactly 3:01. A sound is WAY up in the mix and distorted. I hope that's an mp3 encoding issue and not present on the CD version.

- All the percussion and bass sounds are pristine and sound like they were created today. The whole thing just sounds vibrant and massive like it never has before. It is just so astonishing to me that this remaster has rendered the 1994 release as obsolete as it has. Even Surfboy, which I regarded as Dubnobass' one filler track, has emerged from this project with new value. I've heard it a million times but now it sings to me, the synth sounds especially.

- River of Bass is another that has been given brilliant new life. I always liked this tune but it struck me as quite sonically muddy. I thought that was intentional or at least effective in establishing the mood we all love about the song, but the remaster has revealed it to be an impeccably structured, deeply layered piece that I can now see as a precursor to other Underworld "ballads" like Best Mamgu and Stagger. I can hear every piece of it now, stuff I never noticed before -- vocal effects, percussion patterns, bass vibrations, etc. The only downside is that it's so dynamic that I might have to take it out of some of my more ambient playlists, because there's just too much going on. A good problem to have.

- Mother Earth is another song I always considered more on the chill side that the remaster has proven is more lively than I thought. If I didn't know better I'd say it was recorded by a live band. Nothing drastic here, though, just a good cobweb clearing. I really hope Rick plays the piano parts live on the Dubnobass tour. They're so organic in this song, I think they need the human touch live.

- The non-vocodor "It's a beautiful destination... for what it's worth" bit at the end of ME is definitely not in the original mix. I suppose only Rick can say if this was a mistake or not. In any case, it's so subtle that only nerds like us would notice it.

[khouri]

The Super Deluxe is now available on iTunes and you can hear 90-second samples: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/dubnobasswithmyheadman-super/id902830630

Of all the alternate versions and other previously unreleased stuff I've heard, the only thing I'm uncertain ended up on Dubnobass in its most optimal form is Spoonman. The version from the Cutting Room Floor mix on Soundcloud and what you can hear in the iTunes sample are just so exciting and dramatic -- like the way they've performed it live during the Oblivion tour -- that they make the album version seem subdued. Now, it's possible that a less subdued version of Spoonman wouldn't work in the context of Dubnobass. But as a track to track comparison, I think I may prefer the one they left in the vault.

[tommyd]

Hi there all, just joined the forum today! Big life long fan and can't wait for Saturday.

I received my copy of the 5 disc Deluxe set yesterday - and whilst I can agree with most comments on the excellent remastering of the original album, I have a big problem with discs 4 and 5 - especially 5 the Live jam. I would love to say they have had the same care and attention, but unfortunately not. I'm not sure if Rick took a break here or what, but the recordings have not been cleaned in any way from the original DATs it seems. CD 4 is hit and miss - some with audible tape hiss. Disc 5 we have very annoying crackle, tape hiss and clicks (especially audible on headphones), with the Improvs being the worst - it sometimes sounds like a crackly vinyl record playing. Now I'm not saying I am a Mastering expert, but this is not really exceptible with the technology available today. I am very disappointed with these. Anyone else think so? Are the Downloads the same?

Anyway - I spent 4 hours last night with my own software giving all these tracks a clean and the difference in the results are almost unbeliveable. I am happy to share these files if anyone is interested.

[TheBang]

- In the pre-order download, Cowgirl has a very audible fuck up at exactly 3:01. A sound is WAY up in the mix and distorted. I hope that's an mp3 encoding issue and not present on the CD version.
It's part of the hand claps, and it's present and distorted like that in the original too. The only problem is that it's been brought WAY up in the mix on the remaster. Too much. And yes, it's just the download; it's like that on the CD too. Shame.

[Stickman]

Hi All,

Heres one for you all…
Received my box set yesterday - all good.

Looking at some posts on Facebook and saw this (see image below)

It's different artwork form the one I have. Mine looks just like the one shown on the Underworld website.

I know the sticker is upside down, but if you look at the typography / design (like the band running al the way across) you can see clear differences. Has anyone else got different artwork?

[TheBang]

It's different artwork form the one I have. Mine looks just like the one shown on the Underworld website.

I know the sticker is upside down, but if you look at the typography / design (like the band running al the way across) you can see clear differences. Has anyone else got different artwork?

That's the back cover. I'm not ripping off the glued tracklisting from mine, but if you lift it up a little bit, you can see that it matches the picture that you posted. So, basically, since that guy's set looks sealed, it looks like that box got stickered and sealed upside-down and backwards.

[Lx_Nen]

Yours isn't just upside down, it's the wrong way round. You don't actually have different artwork, that's just the back of the box, not the front. Once you open it up and take the paper off the box (it may look like it's not removable, but it's easy to peel glue that won't damage box or paper if you're reasonably careful), yours will be back to normal.

[Stickman]

Cheers Folks,
That explains that. I'm not removing the backing...;)

[2dreamofluv]

my boxset and vinyl should be here today.

is the dubnobass boxset the same size as the barking boxset?

[crank]

Any in the states get theirs yet?

[hypeless]

Was prepared to patiently count the days here in Boston until it comes - but the Super Deluxe is up on Spotify for anyone else waiting to listen.

[jetpig]

Any in the states get theirs yet?

Washington state here, got mine yesterday. I pre ordered on announcement day.

[darkvoice]

Anyway - I spent 4 hours last night with my own software giving all these tracks a clean and the difference in the results are almost unbeliveable. I am happy to share these files if anyone is interested.

Yes please ! I agree, most of the energy went into the official cd and not in the unreleased tracks. Can you send your files please?

[TheBang]

Speaking of hearing new things in the remaster, on Dark & Long, the noodling bleepy line that's so prominent in the work-in-progress version and the "saved from the cutting room floor mix" (and the jam posted on uwlive.com in Dec. 2010) actually appears in the album version.

It makes a quick foreground appearance for 2 seconds at 6:41. But that's not even the most interesting part. After listening very closely, I realized that it emerged into the foreground at that point after having already been playing in the background for a large portion of the song.

I believe it actually starts in the background at around the 1:05 mark. It's buried way in the background, super-muffled and echoey, sounding like it's playing in a hall, 2 rooms away. As best as I can tell, it's playing in the background at the following times:

1:05 - 1:37
4:10 - 6:43

but it's most prominent and noticeable from 4:45 - 5:15 when most of the other sonic elements in the song are quiet. That melodic line was buried in the song this whole time, but we just didn't notice! It's much clearer in the remaster.

[woofmute]

That's what that is? I've heard it and never made the connection. Wow.

[DaddyAdv]

Well, the appearance of that bleeping arp (more prominentn in the "cutting room floor" mix / the "Dark&Long Jam" giveaway) at 6:41 was there for my in the original mix as well.
On the re-master you can you make it out better during the breakdown after 4:45, but it's still very much filtered and drowned in reverb.

[twicezero]

Am i hearing things? Disk 5, Improv 2. For the first minute or two, is that bloody Alabaster White Thing played a little faster?

[hypeless]

Any in the states get theirs yet?

My vinyl came today, and I ordered that only just a couple of weeks ago!

[crank]

My vinyl came today, and I ordered that only just a couple of weeks ago!

hopefully it's at the house when i get there! :) thanks!

[hypeless]

My vinyl came today, and I ordered that only just a couple of weeks ago!

I should mention - my copy of Rez was delayed, they shipped dnb separately.

[WhiteNoise]

Am i hearing things? Disk 5, Improv 2. For the first minute or two, is that bloody Alabaster White Thing played a little faster?
Nah, that's "S.W.F.A.B.N.F.I.", the little improv between Thing In A Book and Spoon Deep from Sheffield 1994. It's close but Alabaster White Thing uses a bell-ier sound and has a different note pattern.

[jetpig]

Thing in a book still has the hitch at ~9:00 a slight hiss on that and dark train too. Haven't had a chance to give others a listen yet.

[Troy McClure]

My order hasn't made it to Arizona yet....hopefully tomorrow. Very anxious to dig in. I know I could listen to it on Spotify, but I want to have the first listen of it be the full audio, not a lossy format.

Maybe my mail man is a secret Underworld fan and borrowed it.

Jason

[Troy McClure]

My vinyl came today, and I ordered that only just a couple of weeks ago!


How's the vinyl package look? I may order it for when I get around to getting a record player.

Jason

[dubnobasswithme]

Nah, that's "S.W.F.A.B.N.F.I.", the little improv between Thing In A Book and Spoon Deep from Sheffield 1994. It's close but Alabaster White Thing uses a bell-ier sound and has a different note pattern.

And for the record, "S.W.F.A.B.N.F.I." still means "Someone Will Find A Better Name For It", right? :D

[gcoleman99]

Washington state here, got mine yesterday. I pre ordered on announcement day.

And I got mine today, Oct. 08. I really was expecting to wait another week or so to get it.

Also, for the guy that cleaned up discs 4 & 5, I'd also love a copy. I haven't opened my set yet (honestly not sure I WANT to, it's so gorgeous), but I have listened to the first 3 tracks on disc 5and I noticed the crackles and hiss too, and like him, thought it was recorded from vinyl.

[tommyd]

If anyone wants access to the cleaned tracks from the Deluxe set :

Some of disc 4 (6 tracks)
All of disc 5
and now I have also included Dirty Guitar and Dark and Long (Dark Train) from disc 2 minus hiss and Thing in a Book from disc 3 minus the 3 glitches around 9.10 (These have been present since its first appearance and should really have been sorted for this release!)

Please PM me and I will send you a link to my server where you can download them all.

[mark3]

The Yellow Rez 12" is delayed 7-10 days due to 'manufacturing issues'

[chrisuk2009]

If you don't want the CD, you can buy the mp3's from Amazon.com in the UK if you buy it as a 'gift' for ~£18/19 ($29). Quality wise it's 256kb/s.

[Dunwho]

If anyone wants access to the cleaned tracks from the Deluxe set :

Some of disc 4 (6 tracks)
All of disc 5
and now I have also included Dirty Guitar and Dark and Long (Dark Train) from disc 2 minus hiss and Thing in a Book from disc 3 minus the 3 glitches around 9.10 (These have been present since its first appearance and should really have been sorted for this release!)

Please PM me and I will send you a link to my server where you can download them all.

IMPORTANT: Nobody should be distributing or seeking mp3s of officially published tracks on these forums. There are rules written here somewhere about that. But this place shouldn't become somewhere for that - It doesn't matter if people have already bought the album and want an alternate version - this kind of practice should be nipped in the bud and stopped immediately.

Don't really know how I feel about any of this. What was released was released as they intended.. they are not "mistakes" or "glitches" when they are presented like that on every format - that is obviously how they were finished in the master file.

If by fixing hiss you mean that you have reduced or completely blocked out a frequency range then count me out. I'd like to think that the tracks were all provided in a cleaned state, clean enough that they can be enjoyed but not so much that the original and integral quality of the audio is damaged or undermined.

There is hiss on a live recording from 1992 because the recording happened to have hiss on it - any extra work done on it will damage the recording.

I'll take the hiss.

[Dunwho]

By the way... the Vinyl sounds unbelievable.

[2dreamofluv]

By the way... the Vinyl sounds unbelievable.

my vinyl didn't show up yet but i listened to the bluray on my HD598s on Tuesday night.

probably not gonna top that for a while.

[jetpig]

IMPORTANT: Nobody should be distributing or seeking mp3s of officially published tracks on these forums. There are rules written here somewhere about that. But this place shouldn't become somewhere for that - It doesn't matter if people have already bought the album and want an alternate version - this kind of practice should be nipped in the bud and stopped immediately.

Don't really know how I feel about any of this. What was released was released as they intended.. they are not "mistakes" or "glitches" when they are presented like that on every format - that is obviously how they were finished in the master file.

If by fixing hiss you mean that you have reduced or completely blocked out a frequency range then count me out. I'd like to think that the tracks were all provided in a cleaned state, clean enough that they can be enjoyed but not so much that the original and integral quality of the audio is damaged or undermined.

There is hiss on a live recording from 1992 because the recording happened to have hiss on it - any extra work done on it will damage the recording.

I'll take the hiss.

Seconded. Even if that glitch in TiaB wasn't originally intended in 1994, they chose not to remove it in the remaster and I trust their choice and whatever reason they made it

[vflow]

Thirded.

Just passed that TiaB glitch while listening to disc 3. I'm familiar with it.
The guys (re-)released their stuff like they wanted it to be, and I'm happy with it.

[vflow]

...by the way, I would've paid at least € 20 more for the following box set bonus:

Disc 3.5 (remastered)

01 - Spoon Deep
02 - Why Why Why
03 - Dark & Long (Danny Howells Mix)
04 - Cowgirl (Winjer Mix)
05 - Dark Hard
06 - 215 Miles

+ a DVD with all the Dubno-related videos on it.

:)

[tommyd]

IMPORTANT: Nobody should be distributing or seeking mp3s of officially published tracks on these forums. There are rules written here somewhere about that. But this place shouldn't become somewhere for that - It doesn't matter if people have already bought the album and want an alternate version - this kind of practice should be nipped in the bud and stopped immediately.

Don't really know how I feel about any of this. What was released was released as they intended.. they are not "mistakes" or "glitches" when they are presented like that on every format - that is obviously how they were finished in the master file.

If by fixing hiss you mean that you have reduced or completely blocked out a frequency range then count me out. I'd like to think that the tracks were all provided in a cleaned state, clean enough that they can be enjoyed but not so much that the original and integral quality of the audio is damaged or undermined.

There is hiss on a live recording from 1992 because the recording happened to have hiss on it - any extra work done on it will damage the recording.

I'll take the hiss.

Sorry to the forum, I didn't see that rule above and was not aware I had done anything wrong - I just saw the no posting links. I didn't intend to upset anyone. Obviously each if us has our own opinion. I was just disappointed with the varying quality of these releases. I don't think they were re-mastered beyond the original album, only Rick would know the truth there.

[khouri]

Now that I've received my super deluxe edition and ingested it fully, I'm sorry to say I'm not satisfied with the design.

I assumed the yellow slipcase was a kind of translucent thing or at something that otherwise covered up the proper black and white album. I was wrong. For some reason, this version of Dubnobass is yellow. It's plainly less attractive and I suppose they did it to differentiate the package from the others, but it really puts me off.

The contents of the book are beautiful and provocative but they are not Dubnobass. They are some other underworld record, perhaps one yet to be created. This seems like a missed opportunity to present the gorgeous and truly iconic original album imagery in a deluxe format, perhaps alongside other pieces from the era: the Cowgirl/Dirty Epic EP, Dark & Long, Skyscaper, etc. Again I stress that this work is beautiful, it's just not work that reflects this album. I'm utterly perplexed by this choice. Perhaps the thinking was that the original artwork would be reproduced for the vinyl reissue? Overall the Barking deluxe edition was the more successful object.

The John Savage essay is lovely though.

[jetpig]

Having listened to Thing in a Book at LEAST weekly if not daily for the last two years (it fits very nicely in my walk to work) I can say without question it has had work done to it, and not just made louder, just that some odd ticks are still there. Rick talked about wanting to preserve each tiny moment as accurately as possible for the live rendition of the album, and I suspect a similar thought process played here. That or maybe it was intentional all along.

[lament]

...by the way, I would've paid at least € 20 more for the following box set bonus:

Disc 3.5 (remastered)

01 - Spoon Deep
02 - Why Why Why
03 - Dark & Long (Danny Howells Mix)
04 - Cowgirl (Winjer Mix)
05 - Dark Hard
06 - 215 Miles

+ a DVD with all the Dubno-related videos on it.

:)

Why stop there.. if we're going for completeness:

Why Why Why (5:16 version)
Minneapolis
Minneapolis Airwaves
Bigmouth
Dirty (with Akira sample)
Mother Earth (fm mix)
The Hump (groove without a doubt)

What else?

[negative1]

i've listed most of the other missing tracks here:
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http://www.borndirty.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17997

will need to update it, to include newer ones.

later
-1

[jetpig]

I'm rather bummed about the lack of why why why. Bigmouth would a been cool too, but I don't actually listen to it that often.

[stimpee]

A lot of the "missing" tracks have already been reissued either on 1992-2012 or on the A Collection.